I wouldn't say it's a waste of time, vinyl is coming back. And it's not even just an opinion based on what is perceived to be cool or not, but vinyl sales have actually gone up quite sharply in the past 3 years. So perhaps it's not that much of a waste of time or that stupid of a move.
EDIT: Not precise figures and only covering the period of 2006-2007 according to RIAA figures, but vinyl sales in that period have gone up 36% to 1.3 million. Obviously CDs still have a significant margin over vinyl, but according to the RIAA in the same period CD sales have gone down 17%.
Furthermore, according to Nielsen SoundScan, the figures of vinyl sales in 2008 increased by 55000 for a grand total of 1.88 million.
[quote:598842ef53="POSITIVExYOUTH"]I wouldn't say it's a waste of time, vinyl is coming back. And it's not even just an opinion based on what is perceived to be cool or not, but vinyl sales have actually gone up quite sharply in the past 3 years. So perhaps it's not that much of a waste of time or that stupid of a move.[/quote:598842ef53]
Really? I would say digital media is on the up and up and up! Yes it's nice to have the big album art but that's about it - if you wanna put forward the vinyl has a more warm sound argument, I would to say to you that you'd need a very good hi-fi system to appreciate it.
[quote:76e20c6386="POSITIVExYOUTH"]Not at all, to get a good sound from the vinyl you don't need some sort of fancy hi-fi, just a decent set of speakers.
Then obviously digital albums are going up to scary levels, but it is significant how CD sales are going down whilst vinyl sales are on a constant growth.[/quote:76e20c6386]
Gotta disagree there, speakers are the last end of the chain and while they have to be good like you say, so do many other things like the transport, platter, cartridge and so on, otherwise the information isn't being sent to the speakers making it the equiv of mediocre .mp3.
I've no idea about the vinyl sales growth admittedly, but I'd be more inclined to believe its for a niche market and for those that enjoy the art / getting off their ass to flip the thing over.
[quote:062dcb4444="POSITIVExYOUTH"]I wouldn't say it's a waste of time, vinyl is coming back.[/quote:062dcb4444]No it isn't.
Statistics of X% increase are meaningless compared to the truth that sales of vinyl records have increased from almost nothing to a tiny bit more than almost nothing. It's irrelevant.
I note that you seem to avoid the actual number of CD sales and hope that we won't notice. Well, it's still in the hundreds of millions annually, isn't it? Downloads at about one hundred million? Making vinyl sales less than 0.2% of the total. Or to put it more emphatically, right now, 99.8% of music sold isn't on vinyl. :roll:
But you'd be wrong. I spent over 2yrs selling hi end decks and other AV equipment and can assure you that what you're saying is incorrect. A decent deck , amp and speakers would set you back about 2 grand and can go up to 15+ - The difference is quite remarkable. If you've never had the chance to dem such systems, then I recommend you do and hear what you're missing.[/quote:ca35fb8c91]
Haven't listened to 1 to 2 grand systems and albeit there is difference, I didn't find it all that radical as you suggest.
Haven't listened to 1 to 2 grand systems and albeit there is difference, I didn't find it all that radical as you suggest.[/quote:a99719cbc4]
So you didn't find a noticeable difference in something you didn't listen to??[/quote:a99719cbc4]He should be writing gig reviews.
But then most of the stuff I buy is from the late 50s-early 60s, so I haven't really got much choice.
It's quite literally impossible to get the cd, or even download, of "Baby You're Messing Up My Mind" by the Voices.
Vinyl's the way to go. I love the crackles.
Plus, there was a period in the early 80s when cds that had previously been released on vinyl were ever so slightly slowed down when transferred to cd. Listen to the early REM albums on cd and then vinyl and you hear a difference in tempo. Or Dexy's "Too Rye Aye"...there's a noticeable difference.
id just like to point out that nirvana albums have been released and rereleased on vinyl previous so whoever is running that company is a fool and clearly hasnt done his research or is lying to sell more.especially when he pointed out that this is the first time unplugged was available on vinyl.this is also wrong and surely anyone who is getting them from the collecters point of view will want the original vinyl or even the first rerelease.
just saying is all.
In my experience though, most vinyl 'fans' own a crap Bush turntable going into the back of a 20 year old 'MIDI System" (remember those?), thus making all arguments about sound quality irrelevant.
Michael's right, of course. All them Nirvana albums have been on vinyl since their first releases. Unless they are re-mastering them (all the rage these days) this is a non-story.
I'd love to hear the un-slicked-up version of [b:6e166714b6]Nevermind[/b:6e166714b6] that the band loved before Andy Wallace mixed it. Although I invariably love the sound of anything he mixes, I am curious.
But yeah, after a very brief research I had confirmed that Unplugged was originally released on vinyl format. Which at this stage probably means that either the guy is a thick idiot or they are trying to stir up sensationalism, which given the anal preciseness of all (respectable) vinyl lovers will backfire like hell.
But from the article they seemed to make it clear that SubPop was simply going to release re-presses (or at least, that was my impression). So I expect that they will re-master it or do something with it, because given the availability and relatively low price for original pressings it would be a bit of a risky deal.
That Nirvana story is a hoot. Bleach, Nevermind and In Utero are still in print, and how many folks will shell out on a re-issue of Muddy Banks or Unplugged when the originals can be bought on Ebay for a pittance?
FACT: Did you know that when Universal Europe re-issued In Utero on vinyl a couple of years ago, they accidentally used the original Steve Albini mix of the album? It's currently the only "legal" way to hear his mixes of Heart Shaped Box and Pennyroyal Tea.
OPINION: Also, lots of folks (including me) reckon the original European vinyl issue of Nevermind sounds fucking immense compared to any CD version.