A hug, ride or the odd text message from non-family members would better meet his requirements. I used to think he was funny when he posted under different names (come on you all know who it is) but now he's just ripping the arse out of it
[quote:75377ad036="The enfant terrible"]A hug, ride or the odd text message from non-family members would better meet his requirements. I used to think he was funny when he posted under different names (come on you all know who it is) but now he's just ripping the arse out of it[/quote:75377ad036]
I'm actually fairly certain it's not, this time round.
[quote:251f676826="goatboy"][quote:251f676826="The enfant terrible"]A hug, ride or the odd text message from non-family members would better meet his requirements. I used to think he was funny when he posted under different names (come on you all know who it is) but now he's just ripping the arse out of it[/quote:251f676826]
I'm actually fairly certain it's not, this time round.[/quote:251f676826]
I don't think it's InProg (if that's who you mean). Anto knows who it is. Don't you Anto?
[quote:d27dec7122="The enfant terrible"][quote:d27dec7122="goatboy"][quote:d27dec7122="The enfant terrible"]A hug, ride or the odd text message from non-family members would better meet his requirements. I used to think he was funny when he posted under different names (come on you all know who it is) but now he's just ripping the arse out of it[/quote:d27dec7122]
I'm actually fairly certain it's not, this time round.[/quote:d27dec7122]
I don't think it's InProg (if that's who you mean). Anto knows who it is. Don't you Anto?[/quote:d27dec7122]
No, that's not who I was thinking you were thinking it is.
"Its sad that a piece of Irish language is solely associated with the IRA."
If it was used in another context, I would have no problem with it at all, but he had a fucking Irish flag with IRA written across it as his avatar. I dare say we're pretty spot on with the context it's in!
This kind of thing has never been tolerated before on Fastfude, so why should it be allowed now?
If someone did have their username as "Simply the Best" or "Tina Turner's "Simply the Best"" along with a picture of Johnny Adair or a UDA flag as his avatar, I wouldn't be too fucking happy with that either.
I though it was Canute/GW Best at first glance, but the style seems wrong - it's more like someone doing an impression of him. And it doesn't tie with anything on that god awful website of his.
Either way it's bugs the shit out of me when people post grandstanding set-pieces without engaging in the actual banter on the site. If you want to be funny, just be funny, don't spend an hour typing out a totally unfunny waste of everyones eye-muscles.
Using the wee info widget actually he's sharing some IP time with another wee fellah. so I think this may be a brand new fool.
[quote:ad228132f1="DontPetABurningDog"]A piece of grammatically horrible Irish, in fairness.[/quote:ad228132f1]
thank you... i was just about to point this out... if anything it should be beith ar la linn... me thinks. sometimes people are oversensitive about things like this. the irish language is not exclusively 'catholic' or 'nationalist' but unfortunately is sometimes viewed so. but you always get the odd eejit who uses it to maybe try to seem extremely patriotic or something
[quote:3422f21b0a="Danny Lynch"][quote:3422f21b0a="DontPetABurningDog"]A piece of grammatically horrible Irish, in fairness.[/quote:3422f21b0a]
thank you... i was just about to point this out... if anything it should be beith ar la linn... me thinks. sometimes people are oversensitive about things like this. the irish language is not exclusively 'catholic' or 'nationalist' but unfortunately is sometimes viewed so. but you always get the odd eejit who uses it to maybe try to seem extremely patriotic or something[/quote:3422f21b0a]
unfortunately it's not just the odd eejit in these parts
its not the translation thats offensive.. its the connotations of the phrase. its stongly linked with the IRA and realy its only eejits who dont know what theyre talkin about who use the phrase. certainly anybody with irish wouldnt use it. 'simply the best' doesnt seem too offensive.. but then when you look at what it means in a certain context then it is.
[quote:985c44b3a0="fastfude"]I heard he's a muslin.[/quote:985c44b3a0]Wat? :? [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslin]Muslin[/url]?
Ah, typos, keeping pedants in [i:985c44b3a0]material[/i:985c44b3a0] for years!
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If the Irish language is that offensive do I have to change my username as well ;)
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Maybe he should have his username changed from 'on high' to King Billy and see how long he lasts? If he has anything of note to add to the forum he'll stick with his new username until such a time as the powers that be decide that he can have a less offensive username!
Its immature TBH.
Music in Northern Ireland , [or "popular" music] has managed to keep itself separate from the sectarian strife.
Look at SLF and the Undertones as examples.
Its as offensive as FTP/No Surrender/Up the Billy Boys or any other tired old slogan trundled out by those whose mindset is stuck permanently in the sesspit of bigotry that inhabits large parts of this place.
Mind you, he doesnt seem to be doing himself any favours.
I suspect he is quite young, and has never actually witnessed first hand what went on in the dark days of the past.
Grow up and wise up along with get a life, would be my advice.
There`s more to the world than the narrow views of your family and "community"
[quote:ec1623ea46="rentaghost"]We could send him to Iris Robinson's psychiatrist friend and 'turn' him non-sectarian?[/quote:ec1623ea46]
"You are non-sectarian, and while we're at it you're also not gay and will forever vote DUP. My the Iris be with you."
people who are taking offence are just bein petty and immature like our 'politicians' have been for the last 100 years. and before you correct me and say the troubles were 40-50 years ago, im talkin about carson and redmond and them twats.. thats where the trouble started. so weve been bred in a petty society yappin about the smallest possible things and just takin offence at anything in order to try to draw some sympathy. it doesnt work anymore.. cuz Ireland dont want a united ireland.. and britain want nothin to do with us.. nobody can 'win'. the user name isnt that offensive.. its no more than complete ballbaggery, but while people are bein oversenstive theres also the ballbags.. so its a dirty big circle of eejits causin the problem which will probably never fully go away.
equality doesnt exist.. ok we can have equal job opportunities and all that which is good. but really there is no equality... the best we can hope for is minimal inequality which takes into account the aforementioned ballbags. the closest we could possibly get would be if a non partisan party.. alliance or suchlike got into power. but that wouldnt happen because people are so set in the way that only the extreme parties can defend their respective interests. DUP and Sinn Fein cant do that.. but people are too scared to take the leap of voting non partisan in case not enough others do the same and then the 'enemy' gets an even stronger majority. i say abolish the partisan parties. having said that i realise your equality comment may have been tongue in cheek and so i apologise...
Well I'm not, say, monocle droppingly offended, however I am surprised that a) the username was allowed in the first place, especially in the context of the avatars he/she/it used and b) that they have been allowed to stay despite their inane posts, mixed with the username avatar combo.
I'm open to believing its an exercise in satire, but isn't satire usually funny? Is this really the correct forum for such satire?
Didn't Marty get banned years ago for calling people orange bastards or some such? Knowing him it was done in jest, but this new fella is just nonsense.
Avatars of "Irish Republican Army" with an AK47 assault rifle just offended me totally.
How some supporter of a band of sick murder driven terrorists who have took the lives of hundreds of people is allowed to come on here with an offensive username and avatar and frankly, post a load of shite, is beyond me.
We all post shite now and again but we also have some positive stuff to say on music, gear advice etc etc... from time to time.
So how the debate arose whther its offensive OR NOT is also beyond me. of course it is. Its very offensive.
I agree with unplugged there. There seems to be more and more non music related topics popping up on FF now, and most of them have grounds in religion or the troubles, things just to pi$$ people off. Why this is allowed is beyond me, especially considering other posts mysteriously disappear, which are nowhere near as offensive.
Personally, i dont visit or use fastfude anywhere near as much as i did in the past, and im not alone in that either (i know plenty of people who dont use it at all now) simply because of the amout of idiots on here who have nothing to say about music, and are allowed to do so.
Its a free country and all that, but you have to remember who's faught and died to keep it that way (people from both sides of the community). This person coming on and spouting all the crap of the day (or past?) makes me wonder why has it started at this time of the year? Will they still be posting in a month or 2 months time? In 1 word, its shameful. A little decency isnt asking to much surely.
Yis are all getting your knickers in a twist over nothing.
He's a tool. That's it.
As for being offended by it? Get over yourselves. Seriously. His user-name is nowhere near as offensive as the near daily pile of ridiculous macho-pro-violence nonsense that Unplugged comes out with.
Chucky's user name was INTENDED to wind people up, as was his choice of avatar, no doubt. And like a bunch of fucking Daily Mail readers you all fell over yourselves to state just how offended you all were.
Its a bit pathetic, especially if you're going to start whining about a free country, which enables someone to be JUST THAT - offensive.
There's a world of stuff out there to get offended by, but if you're going to let someone who is doing a bit of crap satire with a username that's about 20 years out of date annoy you, then I'm not sure you're all ready for the big-wide-world yet.
I mean, for fucks sake - the joke was done with more venom REPEATEDLY on GIVE MY HEAD PEACE!
He's not funny, and his posts are too long. He spends far too long with crap 'satire', and delights in the fact that he's caused a stir. Can't you just ignore him?
[quote:222ddd1ffd="fastfude"]Ron gets my vote.[/quote:222ddd1ffd]
Well im sorry to hear that. Its pretty obvious by the comments in this thread that the majority of people on here find it offensive, yet your letting it stay. If this is the way ff is going then god help it. I would have imagined that you as a moderator would have wanted to keep the forum politics free as it enivitably brings out old scars and stirs trouble. And here we are.
But that rules out about 100 years worth of off-colour jokes and black humour!
What I mean to say is: Should something be outlawed because we find it personally offensive? Even if others don't?
Its a censorship issue I suppose, but what it really comes down to here is that people don't like seeing it on a local music forum, which isn't so much a cry for censorship as a demand for boundaries to be raised. And I can see that point of view, I really can. But in this case it is purely someone looking for attention and not making any serious statement.
I don't know if he's been banned or not, and I wouldn't be surprised if he has by now, but surely it should be because of his tedious posts and not his crap attempt at getting everyone to look his direction?
And the Pope [i:2df4951c8e]is[/i:2df4951c8e] an auld german cunt. No-one needs a new user-name to tell everyone that.
Ron, your spot on in saying this tool is only looking a reaction, but it's still w**kish behaviour, and it shouldn't be tolerated.
If you give wee scrotes like this the chance to continue to fester on here, you will be putting the integrity of the site at risk, and doing your best to alienated plenty of people.
This site should be seen as something positive that can bring as many different people together in order to communicate and develop whatever aspect of the music scene in the North they are interested in.
The music scene in the North was one of the few things down the years that brought people together, during our dirty little conflict. So why now should we go @rse about face and do our best to drive people away from the site.
It's ok for high brow local musos to get the joke here, but for many it isn't a joke, it's about being offensive.
Is letting a troll determine site policy really a good idea? (No, it isn't.)
The real problem is that a few of you are getting very upset by this, which is exactly what the aim of any troll is. The more you go on about it, the bigger the result for the troll.
The solution is really, really easy: [b:2a8417a44f]Do not feed the troll[/b:2a8417a44f]. Completely ignore the troll. Do not respond to the troll. Just count to ten and move on. That's it. No comeback, no exchange, no reasoning with them. Just blank them. They get bored and go away. It works. No really, it does.
[quote:2a8417a44f]If you give wee scrotes like this the chance to continue to fester on here, you will be putting the integrity of the site at risk, and doing your best to alienated plenty of people. [/quote:2a8417a44f]It does nothing to site integrity, whatever that is. As if this place has ever relied on the opinion of others for validation. Balls to that - I don't run this thing for personal or professional glory.
It is the sum of its users contributions and no more: put good stuff in and good stuff comes out. That's it, there's no magic to it.
If I'm concerned about anything, it's that some long-time users of these forums still haven't learnt to deal with this sort of thing. A healthy community is one that can take this crap in its stride, without descending into melodramatic outrage and trying to pull the tent down from the inside.
Learn from the experience - next time this happens, remember the solution: Do not feed the troll.
Yet your doing your best to alienate young working class prods from this site, and you can try to defend your actions by saying don't feed the troll, but your giving him the opportunity to act the t**t.
Im sorry but people are clearly stating they have an issue with the fellas name and your totally ignoring them and saying theyre talking through their arses? what sort of impression is that meant to give?
Dont feed the troll?....seriously....what?
A line needs to be drawn, I'd dare say keeping a constant 24hr vigil on the site isnt what anyone has in mind, but certainly an effort has to be made to keep idiots off the site, prevent issues like this becoming a problem before they even start. Simply throwing what people have to say back in their faces dosnt work...
..Especially when so many are saying the same thing.
Well, in the interests of harmony perhaps when an account is created it has to be approved by a moderator?
A bit of common sense applied to what is a valid user name.
and a bit of fecking realism here that we do live in a divided country and i'm sure the last thing you want to do is make this site appear like the domain of one side more than the other.
If someones username was potentially libelous or related to child pron or some other nasty thing you'd delete it just as quick!
While you may not have a problem with it (this guys username), its pretty clear that there are a number of others do clearly do.
If you have ever deleted someones account because you found their names untasteful or deleted them because they were a tool when why not block this guy when other people clearly find it so? Or is that just your perogative because you run the forum? Surely our feelings count too? :D
[quote:5bca2f0e6c]Well, in the interests of harmony perhaps when an account is created it has to be approved by a moderator? [/quote:5bca2f0e6c]
We used to have to do this under ezBoard and it was a nightmare to keep on top of. Today the new signups are an order of magnitude higher, so it'd practically be a full time job.
[quote:5bca2f0e6c]Best way to judge that would be by gauging the most frequest users of the forums...[/quote:5bca2f0e6c]Mob rule / inner circle vetoing though? That'd be wholly unfair - Fastfude is open to everyone, a 'membership committee' would be the polar opposite of what this place is about.
I have a problem with anyone who is trolling, more than the pitchfork-wavers on this thread seem to realise, because it's an abuse of the facility I work hard (and spend my own roubles) to maintain. But I don't want to be in a position where I have to constantly 'protect' you from bad words and mean people, you should be able to handle it yourselves and not rise to the goading.
Yes that username and avatar are inappropriate: [i:5bca2f0e6c]that's obviously the whole point[/i:5bca2f0e6c]. That's why they created it. They want to annoy you and you fell for it.
When you respond to their goading you lose the argument. Don't respond to it. Let it fall off the bottom of the page with no replies.
[quote:10867c5a77]Mob rule / inner circle vetoing though? That'd be wholly unfair - Fastfude is open to everyone, a 'membership committee' would be the polar opposite of what this place is about.[/quote:10867c5a77]
You could pick your own morality police though ;)
But actually...trolls are annoying and I see what you mean by ignoring everything they do...but I guess a lot of people find that hard to do. Maybe a ban on avatars would stop some possible trouble? Though has there ever been any other avatars that caused offence on FF?
Personally I couldn't give a toss what he calls himself. Although some people need to chill out. Its a piss-take to try and get a reaction. He is a tool.
Some of the reactions are OTT and to be honest the posters need to wind their necks in and not bring it down to his level.
This post reminds me of a thing in the local paper a week or two ago. Two wee ladies went up to Eason's to buy a new book about World War Two veterans or something. The girl serving them was ignorant to them, so they wrote in berating the doirty fenian beatch. Their own prejudices decided because they bought a book about war veterans and the girl was ignorant to them, then the girl had to be a catholic. They wrote in to the paper and complained to the management about religious discrimination.
The funny thing is that the girl was from Eastern Europe, doean't know shit about Norn Iron politics and her son is in the army. She is equally ignorant to everybody.
The moral of the story is ignore the prick and don't bring it down to his level.
Lads, see to be fair, there's some desperate language being used about the pope here. Your wee man has said nothing anywhere near as bad as what has been said, by Smitty and Ron, of all people. Cut it out there lads....while I dry my eyes.
Marty, you told other people who were offended by that RA slogan / graphic to 'dry their eyes'...but now because something is too close to the bone for [i:e62cd4b797]you[/i:e62cd4b797], it should be 'cut out'?
Is your offence more genuinely held or important than theirs or wha?
Actually, I was pointing out the inconsistency that two people, one of whom was complaining about wee chucky, actually used language FAR more offensive than anything that he said.
Notice the "while I dry my eyes"....meaning, it's up to yourselves lads, but wise up like. When i say "cut it out" I don't mean "Roger! censor this now!" I mean "wise up lads". Which would also be my approach to wee chucky. Wind the neck in lads, and stop being gratuitous.
And, as this is my last post, yes homosexuality IS a sin. I suspect where we're going wrong is that we mean different things by the term. In fact, given that many of those complaining about that view are atheists, the word sin can have little meaning for them, and thus they really have nothing to complain about.
It is a sin in the eyes of God. If you don't believe in God you have no reason to care. If you do believe in God, feel free to argue in a religious fashion that it is not a sin. If you don't even believe in morality, stick it up your hole, and quit crying. It's all relative.
As this is my last post I would hope I'm not overstepping the mark in merging two threads, but as I can also no longer argue, this is perhaps best on this thread where fewer people will see it and argue me back, to my silent irritation. :-D
Cue a whole day of reading posts and thinking "you wanker" but being unable to reply. Cheers Roger, you fascist bastard. :P