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Jim Corr Vs THE JEWS!!!!
  1. avatar George W Best
    [quote:7fc7f03385]Jim Corr holds controversial views on many subjects. On May 30, 2008 Corr appeared as a guest on The Last Word, the flagship current affairs program of Irish radio station Today FM. During the interview, Corr went to great lengths to spell out his opposition to the Lisbon treaty, much of which centres on his contention that the sole purpose of the treaty is to hasten the formation of a new world order, and the eventual subjugation of all free-thinking people by the "cabal of Jewry at the heart of the Illuminati." Corr proceeded to outline several other controversial opinions which he holds dear, including his "absolute support," based on "years of selfless, dedicated study of various documents on the internet," of the false flag conspiracy theory of the 9/11 attacks on the United States.

    [/quote:7fc7f03385]
    (from Wikipedia innit)

    Pow!

    Cue endless remarks about how these views are directly related to his sisters being 'fit'.
  2. avatar Daithi jasper
    I demand a Fastfude entry in Wikipedia.
  3. avatar T Entertainment
    [quote:2af8865c74="George W Best"][quote:2af8865c74]Jim Corr holds controversial views on many subjects. On May 30, 2008 Corr appeared as a guest on The Last Word, the flagship current affairs program of Irish radio station Today FM. During the interview, Corr went to great lengths to spell out his opposition to the Lisbon treaty, much of which centres on his contention that the sole purpose of the treaty is to hasten the formation of a new world order, and the eventual subjugation of all free-thinking people by the "cabal of Jewry at the heart of the Illuminati." Corr proceeded to outline several other controversial opinions which he holds dear, including his "absolute support," based on "years of selfless, dedicated study of various documents on the internet," of the false flag conspiracy theory of the 9/11 attacks on the United States.

    [/quote:2af8865c74]
    (from Wikipedia innit)

    Pow!

    Cue endless remarks about how these views are directly related to his sisters being 'fit'.[/quote:2af8865c74]



    Fastfude moderator and lover of all things Nordic interviewied [i:2af8865c74]Sharon Corr [/i:2af8865c74]last week. COINCIDENCE?

    I f*cking think not.
  4. avatar thecunnyfunt
    Fair play to jim for having the balls to express his dangerous, ill-informed, lunatic views in public

    [img:806e168c38]http://pagesperso-orange.fr/katsura/Images/corrs_sharon.jpeg[/img:806e168c38]
    8)
  5. avatar rentaghost
    Lizards!

    I love it when well-known people start talking about the lizards.
    Do you think Jim Corr would suit a turquoise tracksuit?
    Did the ex-Mrs Corr turn into a lizard before they split?
  6. avatar tinpot anto
    Here anyone have any audio of said radio interview, before oul Jim Gets Internet Lynched on the basis of a Wikipedia Edit?
  7. avatar George W Best
    The quote lists the show, date and radio station the interview was on, google it!
  8. avatar Chi-Lite
    He's right though. :P
  9. avatar flackmeister
    I have a much more important question.

    Whay were you looking up Jim Corr in wiki?

    Have you no shame?

    - - -

    EDIT - One day I'm sure I'll learn how to type proper like
  10. avatar 10rapid
    It was on the last word with tony fenton yesterday on today fm. apparently it's repeated on saturday morning from 10-11 or something.
  11. avatar nonlogic liam
    I once looked up Russia's Ivan III (who lived in the 15th century) on wikipedia and it told me that his favorite metal bands were Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. NO REALLY! I can only imagine how many undergrads failed their modules that month. Sadly, someone has "updated" it and taken out above mentioned hilarity.
  12. avatar 10rapid
    Even with these outlandish views, is he still putting himself forward for the corrs challenge?
  13. avatar nonlogic liam
    Well all that sexual frustration has to go somewhere, imagine being stuck on a tour bus with three babes and not being able to feel them up? I reckon it was around this time that he really started to hate Jews.
  14. avatar 10rapid
    [quote:412db97848]imagine being stuck on a tour bus with three babes and not being able to feel them up?[/quote:412db97848]

    He's from dundalk...I don't think that kind of thing is frowned upon down there at all.
  15. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    [quote:0e10d424ea="tinpot anto"]Here anyone have any audio of said radio interview, before oul Jim Gets Internet Lynched on the basis of a Wikipedia Edit?[/quote:0e10d424ea]

    I haven't got speakers in this machine at work so this may or may not be what you're looking for:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMTJS4wnmF8[/url]
  16. avatar T Entertainment
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gMTJS4wnmF8

    There it is!
  17. avatar George W Best
    For the record, I had heard about Jim's comments from another website and just used the wikipedia quote as it summed up the details well.

    I too also think Jim is right about the illuminati and not only do I think they were responsible for the twin towers I also think they spiked GG Allin's heroin on that fateful day :evil:
  18. avatar T Entertainment
    I am gutted beyond words that he didn't mention lizards.
  19. avatar flackmeister
    Actually, having read a fair bit, he's not that far off.

    See The Project for a new American Century, Naoimi Kleins book Shcok Doctrine, etc etc...

    It is actually scary, the PNAC states very clearly that the US and Isreal shall be the new world leaders...

    Seek and ye shall find Jim!

    - - -

    EDIT - actually, he is right on one point, the US and the rest have a remarkable ability to bury horrific rules in huge documents, one such Bushism states that the President shall be the single voice in times of crisis and shall rule, without question, all forces, excluding all senators, congress and the rest. Who decides when that crisis is imminent? Yip, the President...
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  20. avatar T Entertainment
    I fully agree, we have to remain ever vigilant against the Jewish threat.
  21. avatar tinpot anto
    It was all the jew boys hanging around with their rat-like eyes and hooky noses waiting to defile his good Christ-loving sisters that opened his eyes I reckon.

    though again, the references mention nothing about Jews. The 9/11 stuff is blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain.

    I like it when people respond to the allegation with the question "Do you seriously think that the neo-con faction of american government would allow 3000 Americans to die for the sake of a publicity stunt to sway public opinion"

    I dunno, ask the 6000 soldiers killed in Iraq, maybe?
  22. avatar The enfant terrible
    I used to love vandelising wikipedia I once started a rumour about Johnny Borrell using a ouija board to write songs.

    Here're a few classics:

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_Your_Life_%28TV_series%29[/url]
    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garron_Tower[/url]
    [url]http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Prescott[/url]
  23. avatar rentaghost
    ach ballix. you mean he doesn't talk about the lizards? sure that's no use.
  24. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    [quote:e7681c1bf1="tinpot anto"]I like it when people respond to the allegation with the question "Do you seriously think that the neo-con faction of american government would allow 3000 Americans to die for the sake of a publicity stunt to sway public opinion"[/quote:e7681c1bf1]
    At least Dunkin Donuts aren't supporting terrorism:

    [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7427206.stm[/url]
  25. avatar nonlogic liam
    [size=24:54ab361961]Infidels![/size:54ab361961][color=blue:54ab361961][/color:54ab361961]
  26. avatar George W Best
    [quote:9b96b2111d="tinpot anto"] The 9/11 stuff is blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain.
    [/quote:9b96b2111d]

    Are you saying that the US govt. were secretly behind the Twin Towers attack?
  27. avatar flackmeister
    Thats the Billion dollar question isn't it.

    Read some on the CIA and its infamous Black Ops.

    All across South America they were central to the removal of democratically elected Governments to ensure American interests, Peru is one fine, if bloody, example. Also, it might be worth having a look at the Chicago School of Economics and its history, combine that with Bushies buddies and you have a recipie for utter disaster...
  28. avatar George W Best
    Plus how could some Arabs have managed such a scheme? Afterall they are only Muslims and they live in caves, how could they have organised it!
  29. avatar flackmeister
    I know, and its only resulted in something like 20,000 dead.

    ?

    Who am I kidding - its actually closer to 400,000 dead.
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  30. avatar olan
    [quote:0aa601b051="10rapid"][quote:0aa601b051]imagine being stuck on a tour bus with three babes and not being able to feel them up?[/quote:0aa601b051]

    He's from dundalk...I don't think that kind of thing is frowned upon down there at all.[/quote:0aa601b051]

    eh! i'll have you know it is. up da town!


    [size=9:0aa601b051]na, who am i kidding.... especially when they're that hot![/size:0aa601b051]
  31. avatar thebatgranny
    Loved this comment from the bbc article above:

    [quote:3aedc9cc25]I'm pretty certain no one will confuse Rachael Ray with an Islamic extremist because of her accessories.[/quote:3aedc9cc25]
  32. avatar 10rapid
    but would you take the corrs challenge...?
  33. avatar fastfude
    [quote:815a44bf54="T Entertainment"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gMTJS4wnmF8

    There it is![/quote:815a44bf54]It's gone already! Lizardmen! :shock:
  34. avatar Midhir Records
    it went literally seconds after going up!

    Fair play to the fella for speaking his mind.
  35. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    what's the corrs challenge?
  36. avatar T Entertainment
    Hang on, are there actually adults on here who believe 9/11 was perpetrated covertly by elements of the American intelligence services? I mean, do you REALLY think that?
  37. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [img:2de0315dd0]http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/8062/facepalm2sn8.jpg[/img:2de0315dd0]

    at everything...
  38. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    [quote:b5b1191ece="fastfude"]It's gone already! Lizardmen! :shock:[/quote:b5b1191ece]
    It hasn't gone too far though!
    [url]http://blog.niallok.com/index.php/2008/05/30/jim-corrs-amazing-radio-rant-about-911-and-lisbon/[/url]

    [quote:b5b1191ece="T Entertainment"]Hang on, are there actually adults on here who believe 9/11 was perpetrated covertly by elements of the American intelligence services? I mean, do you REALLY think that?[/quote:b5b1191ece]
    [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/2912362733/[/url]

    I'm not sure if he still posts on here :-D but Thierry Meyssan would certainly question what the media have told him about the attacks!
  39. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:9c98b1881e="T Entertainment"] I mean, do you REALLY think that?[/quote:9c98b1881e]

    Before anyone answers that question, I think a more important question needs to be answered.

    Do the people who are so readily able to post amusing pictures have a little collection of links for them stored or do they have to go hunting each time?
  40. avatar mcflymo
    Another question:

    Can I have back the 10 or so minutes I've just wasted reading this thread?
  41. avatar The enfant terrible
    Aye sure mate, just take a print out of the thread to your local chaos wizard and he'll let you use his time machine.
  42. avatar Tele
    Trust no-one.
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  44. avatar 10rapid
    [quote:50f67a67ab]what's the corrs challenge?[/quote:50f67a67ab]

    Would you get it on with Jim if it guaranteed you "relations" with the other 3...?
  45. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote:6755aa0f4a="10rapid"][quote:6755aa0f4a]what's the corrs challenge?[/quote:6755aa0f4a]

    Would you get it on with Jim if it guaranteed you "relations" with the other 3...?[/quote:6755aa0f4a]

    I thought it was four balls in a bag, each ball represents one of the corrs. Would you pick one out at random under conditions that whichever one you got you had to have sex with, given that there's a 25% chance you'll get old jim but a 75% chance you'll get one of the lasses.
  46. avatar George W Best
    Getting Jim wouldn't be so bad, everyone knows sex with crazy people is the best sex!
  47. avatar 10rapid
    [quote:2090a4ae41]I thought it was four balls in a bag, each ball represents one of the corrs. Would you pick one out at random under conditions that whichever one you got you had to have sex with, given that there's a 25% chance you'll get old jim but a 75% chance you'll get one of the lasses.[/quote:2090a4ae41]


    That'd be corrs challenge 2.1 the modified version.

    Hot from the developers is corrs challenge 3.0...in it you have to guess which corr will end up being sectioned first.
  48. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    I would gladly take that challenge, in fact, I think I would be disapointed with the outcome if it wasn't Jim.
  49. avatar anty
    you all sound like the mail on sunday :x
  50. avatar Orzo
    That kind of thing would make headline news here. Today there's this classic:

    "Man dies after 31-second police chase"
    http://stuff.co.nz/4568201a11.html
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  53. avatar robot_rock
    [quote:46bd2e2262="T Entertainment"]Hang on, are there actually adults on here who believe 9/11 was perpetrated covertly by elements of the American intelligence services? I mean, do you REALLY think that?[/quote:46bd2e2262]

    Do you REALLY believe otherwise?
  54. avatar T Entertainment
    Yes, I REALLY believe otherwise.

    Now, who here REALLY believes that 9/11 was perpetrated covertly by elements of the American intelligence services?

    No attempted fancy footwork along the lines of 'yeah well the Mujihadin were created by the CIA in the 80s which evolved into Al Quaida so effectively it was them blah blah'...

    Did the yanks - directly - plan the attacks?
  55. avatar tinpot anto
    Do I think they knew the attacks were being planned and let them happen?

    Yes, absolutely. Such tactics are well established, developed as they were by CIA forces involved in Morocco and Algeria during the 70's. The only astounding and unprecedented part of it is the scale.

    What I find remarkable is that you seem to believe it's a ridiculous suggestion; that the people involved act according to a moral code which would render such things unthinkable. Now [i:42663e1bbf]that's[/i:42663e1bbf] bonkers.
  56. avatar George W Best
    [quote:89bfefffb1="tinpot anto"]Yes, absolutely. Such tactics are well established, developed as they were by CIA forces involved in Morocco and Algeria during the 70's. [/quote:89bfefffb1]

    Where has it been established that they allow attacks on their own soil?
  57. avatar tinpot anto
    I'm not going to entertain you supercilious wabs by cut and pasting wiki-balls and bull sh1t mentalist conspiracy theory to back up a point. All of the "evidence" for such things is well buried under layers of crap, it's impossible to use as data to form a stable conclusion.

    I'm not astounded and outraged about the fact that the US security services probably had a hand in 9/11. I think it entirely suited their purposes and they, and other agencies have done a LOT worse over the years. I think you'd be an absolute gullible c0ck to not consider it as a very very real possibility.
  58. avatar George W Best
    [quote:1a60dc5f21="tinpot anto"]I'm not going to entertain you supercilious wabs by cut and pasting wiki-balls and bull sh1t mentalist conspiracy theory to back up a point. All of the "evidence" for such things is well buried under layers of crap, it's impossible to use as data to form a stable conclusion.
    [/quote:1a60dc5f21]

    So you are saying there IS evidence out there which will conclusively prove that the US were complicite with the 9/11 attacks?
  59. avatar tinpot anto
    No, PRECISELY THE OPPOSITE.

    if it wasn't the US then there will be no evidence that it was, if it was, then they will have gotten rid of it. Can't prove a negative, can you.

    Fool.

    Away and youtube Morrisey videos.
  60. avatar George W Best
    Ah I see now!
    There is no evidence at present to say the US was involved, and there will be no evidence in the future that the US were involved therefore the US MUST have been involved because they have done bad things in the past (although never on home soil).
    Pretty convincing argument, I'm sold!

    But wait a second, if the US were guilty of this because they had committed other crimes elsewhere in the world at other points in their history, surely by that rational it would be equally valid to blame Genghis Kahn? How can we be certain it wasn't Genghis Kahn and not George Bush? :?
  61. avatar tinpot anto
    What a load of hilarious sardonic balls you have written.

    I think the US had some prior knowledge of the attacks and let them go ahead, there may have been some encouragement and seeding of the idea too.

    I think this because I know they are capable of it, both ethically and practically. If you think otherwise I think you are a deluded fool.
  62. avatar thecunnyfunt
    let's invent an organisation and then blame them!

    oh, wait
  63. avatar George W Best
    [quote:1c4cbb0f33="tinpot anto"]
    I think this because I know they are capable of it, both ethically and practically. If you think otherwise I think you are a deluded fool.[/quote:1c4cbb0f33]

    A deluded fool?
    Okay.
    So you are not a deluded fool for stating that the US government were guilty of a terrible attrocity because you know (that's right folks he KNOWS) that they are capable of it.
    Are you saying that I am deluded because I don't think that blame should be attributed on the grounds of who was [i:1c4cbb0f33]capable[/i:1c4cbb0f33] of doing it, not according to who did the attack?
  64. avatar thecunnyfunt
    [quote:c8284e6ca5="George W Best"][quote:c8284e6ca5="tinpot anto"]
    I think this because I know they are capable of it, both ethically and practically. If you think otherwise I think you are a deluded fool.[/quote:c8284e6ca5]

    A deluded fool?
    Okay.
    So you are not a deluded fool for stating that the US government were guilty of a terrible attrocity because you know (that's right folks he KNOWS) that they are capable of it.
    Are you saying that I am deluded because I don't think that blame should be attributed on the grounds of who was [i:c8284e6ca5]capable[/i:c8284e6ca5] of doing it, not according to who did the attack?[/quote:c8284e6ca5]

    yes let's attribute the blame 'according to who did the attack'. fantastic idea
  65. avatar feline1
    Ladies and Gentlemen, it's the Real IR... sorry, THE CORRS!!!! 8)
  66. avatar Chi-Lite
    I reckon they did do it.

    But i can't prove it like.

    Who's with me? 'Mon.
  67. avatar Daithi jasper
    It was Afghanistan and Iraq that did it. This much has been proven. So it has.
  68. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:965fc26e63="George W Best"]
    Are you saying that I am deluded because I don't think that blame should be attributed on the grounds of who was [i:965fc26e63]capable[/i:965fc26e63] of doing it, not according to who did the attack?[/quote:965fc26e63]

    Like Iraq?
  69. avatar tinpot anto
    I'm not saying i KNOW they did it. That would be, of course stupid and foolish.

    [i:b88f8d4099]As[/i:b88f8d4099] stupid and foolish as perhaps forming a conclusion that they DIDN'T have anything to do with it based on the evidence they have presented to the media.

    Even though historically their level of disclosure surrounding such things has been next to sweet f*ck all, and their increasing reliance on media manipulation to achieve their aims is widely known.

    You'll never be able to form an opinion based on the evidence because the evidence available only consists of stuff the US Intelligence community wants you to see. Drawing a conclusion on such evidence is flawed.

    Can you explain how it is not, then I may relent from calling you deluded.

    This IS the administration who also claimed that [i:b88f8d4099]Saddam Hussein[/i:b88f8d4099] was behind the attacks. You remember that right?
  70. avatar George W Best
    [quote:f104a52be9]It was Afghanistan and Iraq that did it. This much has been proven. So it has.[/quote:f104a52be9]

    [quote:f104a52be9]Like Iraq?[/quote:f104a52be9]

    What is the logic here?
    Because a government lies about one thing they therefore must be lying about absolutely everything?

    There is evidence to show the US lied about Iraq. Yet there no evidence to show they were lying about 9/11. Why can they so skillfully hide the evidence about one thing and not the other?
  71. avatar tinpot anto
    But you are basing your conclusion on information given to you by known liars.

    At best you should treat it with some credulity no?

    And there is evidence, just none that is verifiable or in any way conclusive.

    The 9/11 attackers were all Saudi. Yet Afganistan and Iraq are STILL getting their balls knocked in.
  72. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:147987083b]What is the logic here?
    Because a government lies about one thing they therefore must be lying about absolutely everything?[/quote:147987083b]

    The logic is, because a government lies about a number of things, you should take everything else they say with a rational degree of scepticism. That's fairly straightforward, I'd have thought.



    I agree with Anto.

    They probably did f[b:147987083b][/b:147987083b]ucking do it, I wouldn't put it past them.
    Simple as that.

    I don't knoow they did it.

    but they probably f[b:147987083b][/b:147987083b]ucking did.

    what's the problem?
  73. avatar tinpot anto
    [quote:ef3eeb1ff1]I wouldn't put it past them.[/quote:ef3eeb1ff1]


    Perfectly put.

    Now dry your eyes defending your precious US of A. You can still enjoy all the great things they have done for the world like WWE Wrestling, Skateboards, Frisbees and Hair Metal, whilst also acknowledging that the CIA are c*nts*. Job done.

    [i:ef3eeb1ff1]*Interestingly in historical terms the CIA, staffed as it was largely by educated East Coast Ivy League graduates has been considered a steadying influence on some decisions taking by the Executive. On Vietnam for example a CIA report prior to the US invasion stated clearly that the Viet Cong movement was indigenous, and not under the influence of the Chinese or Soviet regimes. The adminsitration at the time were busy selling their "Domino Effect" theory at the polls, so poor old Hoochy Minge became public enemy number 1, and the director of the CIA was sacked. [/i:ef3eeb1ff1]
  74. avatar George W Best
    [quote:c4dbbdd71e]As stupid and foolish as perhaps forming a conclusion that they DIDN'T have anything to do with it based on the evidence they have presented to the media. [/quote:c4dbbdd71e]

    That's right I forgot, the media the world over only ever reports what the US government has to say and never ever questions it.

    [quote:c4dbbdd71e]You'll never be able to form an opinion based on the evidence because the evidence available only consists of stuff the US Intelligence community wants you to see. Drawing a conclusion on such evidence is flawed. [/quote:c4dbbdd71e]

    How is that the only evidence?

    [quote:c4dbbdd71e]The 9/11 attackers were all Saudi. Yet Afganistan and Iraq are STILL getting their balls knocked in. [/quote:c4dbbdd71e]
    I don't get you, if America wanted to stage an attack to justify invading Afghanistan and Iraq why did they not use Afghanis and Iraqis to do the attack?


    [quote:c4dbbdd71e]I don't knoow they did it.

    but they probably fucking did.

    what's the problem?[/quote:c4dbbdd71e]

    No problem in saying that you think they probably did do it as long as you don't start calling people names and saying they are deluded because don't think that the US were responsible.

    Edit - didn't see the full stop in after 'knoow they did it'.
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  75. avatar tinpot anto
    Last post gone before 12.

    Here wise up with your quotes and all that.
  76. avatar George W Best
    [quote:6304ec0d69="tinpot anto"]Last post gone before 12.

    Here wise up with your quotes and all that.[/quote:6304ec0d69]

    Why? You got a problem with freedom of speech Anto?
    Next thing you know you'll be calling people names for daring to challenge you when you make unsubstantiated claims.
  77. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:4b1d83b9e7="George W Best"]didn't see the full stop in after 'knoow they did it'.[/quote:4b1d83b9e7]

    you just wish you could be as free with grammar and syntax as the boy here, don't ye? I reckon you do, isn't it? Admit it. aren't ye? doesn't it? 'mon sure.
    Won't ye?
    Aye.

    Freedom of joe speech sure.

    i reckon we should prove it by all writing lizard-inspired couplets about Jim Corr bombing the twin towers. Come on. Commmee Onnnn.
  78. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:e9b1d97990="George W Best"][quote:e9b1d97990]Like Iraq?[/quote:e9b1d97990]

    What is the logic here?[/quote:e9b1d97990]

    My point (I can't comment on the other person) was just to point out the bitter thought of wanting to put the blame for 9/11 on the people who did do it, when the people who got the blame and are suffering for it had nothing to do with it at all.

    But yes, I do agree with everyone else above when they say that because the US has lied about many things, then the other things they say should be treated with sceptisism.
  79. avatar George W Best
    [quote:78254e002c] because the US has lied about many things, then the other things they say should be treated with sceptisism. [/quote:78254e002c]

    I would go further to say that all evidence from all sources should be treated with scepticism until it has went through the proper scrutiny.

    I would also say that to completely disregard evidence because it backs up the story of some one who has previously lied is idiotic in the extreme. That is what the US Government did to justify entering Iraq afterall.
  80. avatar Chi-Lite
    I reckon they done it though
  81. avatar George W Best
    [i:803f2e6af7]"Did you know that there are more nerve endings in the human gut than in the human brain?"[/i:803f2e6af7] - Stephen Colbert, 2006.
  82. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    Maybe if they had built the twin towers out of the same material as [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satam_al-Suqami]Satam Al Suqami's[/url] passport we wouldn't be having this debate :wink:
  83. avatar The enfant terrible
    Man the yanks did it.

    See here's what happened:

    Back in the day Jim and the lasses were in the states doing some gigs. A local CIA dude who hadn't heard of the band saw Jim in a pub and recognised him as being "genuinely Irish" unlike everyone else there.

    The CIA dude assumed that Jim was one of the ex-ra crowd they were training up to train arabic terrorists the world over.

    Jim had a little difficulty with this at first but the CIA dude played on Jim's dislike of Jews and desire to weaken their influence in American politics, nmely by destroying the Twin Towers. The other big influence on Jim was the very true statement and oft quoted comment round Washington: "When uncle Sam needs a favour, don't think about it, do it". This applies the world over and not just in America as Jim well knew.

    Jim was then programmed Jason Bourne style and went and got a team of Arabs together and taught them all they needed to know to hijack planes (something Jim knew very little about and which he gained all knowledge of by skim reading a copy of Paul Avery's The Voices of Guns: The Definitive and Dramatic Story of the Twenty-two-month Career of the Symbionese Liberation Army. Even then Jim had spent most of his time with that book looking at pictures of Patty Hearst who he thought was wee ride).

    All's happening now is that America's once flawless plan is seeming not so flawless (or seemless) and Jim's programming is now starting to crack (or should that be craic).
  84. avatar Chi-Lite
    On a tangential, but terrorism related, topic, the
    SDLPs Alex Attwood has just suggested that, should the DUP vote in favour of Gordon brown's terror legislation for 42 days detention, they should at least get something in return, and make sure that the Post Office on the Blacks Road is not closed. Not a word of a lie.

    [quote=wee Alex]I ask the DUP this: if they feel it necessary to vote through the terror legislation due to come before the House of Commons in 10 days time — and I hope they do not, but if they do feel it necessary to vote in favour of that legislation — then they should get something in return, by getting the relevant British Minister to order the Post Office in Northern Ireland to rescind its decision.[/quote]
    That's some horse trading for ye there, hey.
  85. avatar robot_rock
    [quote:4e93a0ea39="George W Best"]
    There is evidence to show the US lied about Iraq. Yet there no evidence to show they were lying about 9/11. Why can they so skillfully hide the evidence about one thing and not the other?[/quote:4e93a0ea39]

    How many buldings went down on 9/11? The answer is 3 and they did a mighty fine job of covering that up didn't they? And shipping the evidence off to China in a matter of hours! Do you believe everything the news tells you?
  86. avatar flackmeister
    [quote:16496c3717="Seamusmaguidhir"]Maybe if they had built the twin towers out of the same material as [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satam_al-Suqami]Satam Al Suqami's[/url] passport we wouldn't be having this debate :wink:[/quote:16496c3717]

    Brilliant, absoloutley bloody brilliant.

    Tis true though, amid all that carnage, amid all that death, smoke, fuel explosions, crumbling buildings, and terror, one hijeackers passport manages to escape from the plane which he and his cohorts are flying into the Twin Towers, and amazingly some might say, just happens to be found and handed into the police when the black box recorders and many hundreds of people were never found.

    Another point, go do some research on WT7, a building that was not damaged in the initial attack falls down 7 hours later after a fire, the same building that housed the FBI and CIA, just happend the fall down, maybe thats where all your evidence got to.

    Now please, I may well have floated up the lagan yesterday but even I am not that wet behind the ears.

    I too believe that one day the CIA will be in the box for this, they are renowned the world over for interferring in things they shouldn't be for the sake of Americas economic and political agenda.

    Do me a favour all of ye, go to a library and read some books, there are dozens out there that shed a lot of light on this very messy subject.

    They did it, the Project for a New American Century and the neocons that came after it are all as guilty as sin.

    EDIT - You could also do well to see some of the acts that Bushie has passed, one such act cleanses him of any possibility of being charged of mishandleing of anything in his presidency, including the War, New Orleans, etc etc etc... Now why would an innocent man need one of those?
  87. avatar robot_rock
    I'm glad not everyone here's totally delusional. All you have to do is a tiny bit of research and somehow I don't think you'll feel so good about the Bush admin etc...

    The world is heading for some extremely dark times! Knowledge is power, just do some research!
  88. avatar trepanner
    Given the general public's mincing-machine like tendencies where "facts" are concerned, and how glibly utterly incorrect information is disseminated across the internet and other media by folks who seem utterly determined that they have the right of things and yet are wrong about the most basic details of events (e.g. see above : all the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis? Really?) - little by way of obfuscation would seem to be needed by The Powers That Be when those who would claim to be seeking "the truth" are themselves collectively spreading more misinformation than the US government could ever manage.

    Many of the conspiracy theorists are doing more to hide and damage the "truth" that they allegedly seek through this kind of behaviour, which is big on eagerness and short on facts; if there [i:1d9bb7bbc4]is[/i:1d9bb7bbc4] a great conspiracy at work, I'm sure those responsible are very glad of people like you because you're simultaneously clouding the facts yet further and taking credibility away from any actual efforts to get to the facts.
  89. avatar T Entertainment
    "Do me a favour all of ye, go to a library and read some books, there are dozens out there that shed a lot of light on this very messy subject."

    Ignoring the laughably patronising manner, perhaps you could recommend some titles from this list of 'dozens' which 'shed some light' on this matter?

    I've read widely on the subject, from Robert Fisk to Lawrence Wright and all ideological points in between,
    I've have yet to hear one credible commentator or journalist cite the CIA as being directly (or in any way) responsible for the attacks (except in the aforementioned 'funding the mujihadeen in the 80s').


    So please, tell me just three or four books I should be reading from these 'dozens' which will 'shed some light'?
  90. avatar Chi-Lite
    David Icke innit
  91. avatar flackmeister
    So what do you think, rather than telling us all we are wrong?

    I don't read wiki, I read the New York Times, I read well established reporters and writers who produce highly useful texts on all manner of subjects.

    Your post doesn't respond to simple questions, the worlds biggest crime scene is blasted into oblivion in a matter of days, the untouched and quite a buit away WT7 falls down, hijackers passports falling out of exploding planes, weapons of mass destruction, sexing up documents, I could go on.

    Add something useful to the discussion, do some research of your own possibly, as your response is the stock response I've been hearing since 9/11 became a subject of debate..
  92. avatar T Entertainment
    Let's have that list, then. There are 'dozens', after all.

    The notion that the New York Times has pushed an editorial line that the American security services were directly responsible for 9/11 is ludicrous.
  93. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    [quote:3f351fea66="T Entertainment"]So please, tell me just three or four books I should be reading from these 'dozens' which will 'shed some light'?[/quote:3f351fea66]

    Aside from the Thierry Meyssan book I linked to above you could also try [url= http://www.amazon.com/Terror-Conspiracy-Deception-Loss-Liberty/dp/1932857435/ref=pd_sim_b_title_2] The Terror Conspiracy: Deception, 9/11 and the Loss of Liberty [/url], [url=http://www.amazon.com/Towers-Deception-Media-Cover-up-11/dp/0865715734/ref=pd_sim_b_title_5]Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11 [/url] or
    [url=http://www.amazon.com/11-101-Points-Everyone-Consider/dp/1419624288/ref=pd_sim_b_title_4] 9/11 101 : 101 Key Points that Everyone Should Know and Consider that Prove 9/11 was an Inside Job [/url]
  94. avatar flackmeister
    Here are a few more, the list is literally endless and if I wasn't passing these off to friends I'd have nowhere to live, I would however be the proud owner af a rather lovely library...

    [b:fa5b6730a8]Denial and Deception: An Insider's View of the CIA from Iran-Contra to 9/11[/b:fa5b6730a8]- Melissa Boyle Mahle

    [b:fa5b6730a8]United States v. George W. Bush et al [/b:fa5b6730a8]- Elizabeth de la Vega

    [b:fa5b6730a8]The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism[/b:fa5b6730a8] - Naomi Klein

    [b:fa5b6730a8]War on Terror, Inc.: Corporate Profiteering from the Politics of Fear[/b:fa5b6730a8] - Solomon Hughes

    [b:fa5b6730a8]Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001 [/b:fa5b6730a8]-Steve Coll

    [b:fa5b6730a8]9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press -[/b:fa5b6730a8] David Ray Griffin

    [b:fa5b6730a8]The Commission: The Uncensored History of the 9/11 Investigation -[/b:fa5b6730a8] Philip Shenon

    [b:fa5b6730a8]Utter Incompetents: Ego and Ideology in the Age of Bush[/b:fa5b6730a8] - Thomas Oliphant

    The Project for a New American Century - The site for this is gone so google it, its where the neocons and their nonsense come from, as of back in 1980 they said on paper that America needed a right wing republican god fearing president and another Pearl harbour to gain its place in the world once again.

    All these books and no one has mentioned Micheal Moore.

    Lovely.
  95. avatar robot_rock
    [quote="T Entertainment

    I've have yet to hear one credible commentator or journalist cite the CIA as being directly (or in any way) responsible for the attacks (except in the aforementioned 'funding the mujihadeen in the 80s').

    [/quote]

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgYFo79q1Ek[/url]

    there ya go...
  96. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:d74abfe832="flackmeister"]sexing up documents[/quote:d74abfe832]

    Now you're accusing Alastair Campbell of being responsible?
  97. avatar flackmeister
    [quote:67aeb7ea56="my-angel-rocks"][quote:67aeb7ea56="flackmeister"]sexing up documents[/quote:67aeb7ea56]

    Now you're accusing Alastair Campbell of being responsible?[/quote:67aeb7ea56]

    For his part in all of this mess, yes.

    We are at war on a lie, in a nation with no actionalble evidence of ever having been involved directly with 9/11.

    Also, just so you know, sexing up of documents in an attempt to invade the oil rich nation of iraq took place in Bush's government too...

    It is all part of the bigger picture.

    EDIT: In case anyone notices, there are now a [b:67aeb7ea56]dozen[/b:67aeb7ea56] links on this subject to books of merit...
  98. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:699cf28a4b="flackmeister"][quote:699cf28a4b="my-angel-rocks"][quote:699cf28a4b="flackmeister"]sexing up documents[/quote:699cf28a4b]

    Now you're accusing Alastair Campbell of being responsible?[/quote:699cf28a4b]

    For his part in all of this mess, yes.[/quote:699cf28a4b]

    No, you're conflating many many many many issues.
    And making yourself look less and less credible and more like a raving conspiracy theorist.

    [quote:699cf28a4b]We are at war on a lie, in a nation with no actionalble evidence of ever having been involved directly with 9/11.[/quote:699cf28a4b]

    And this has nothing to do with the question that Chris asked. Chris asked was the CIA responsible for what happended on September 11th. Alastair Campbell I'm almost 143% certain had absolutely not a single thing to do with that.

    Is he responsible for going to war with Iraq, yes, is he responsible for Sept 11th, no.

    As for what I think, I don't think the CIA planned it. I think they were aware that something was going to happen and ignored it: whether it was ignored for malicious purposes or just an accident is up for debate, although there is fairly good evidence that something similar happened at Pearl Harbour.

    I think its possible that they ignored it thinking that it would be an attack of a similar size to 1993 where only 6 people died and I'm sure someone from PNAC could have rationalised the deaths of 6 people if it stirred up enough feeling for an attack on Iraq.

    I think Hanlon's Razor comes into play here really:
    "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
  99. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:2fcd43a2e3="flackmeister"][b:2fcd43a2e3]The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism[/b:2fcd43a2e3] - Naomi Klein[/quote:2fcd43a2e3]

    Surely Klein's point is not that the CIA or GWB or PNAC caused Sept 11th, but that they saw an opportunity in it and capitalised on the enormous turmoil that it had caused on a broken society.
  100. avatar flackmeister
    You make some very good and very valid points but I do not believe that we can look at any of it in isolation.

    I believe that the CIA willfully ignored the threat at the very least, that they had a hand in it at worst...

    I just can't look at only one thing, yes Klein shows's the so called opportunities in economic destruction around the world, but with the US, the World Bank, the IMF and the CIA they all play their parts in all that goes on, and thoese who benifit more often than not create...

    Economic wars, torture, fabrication, the list goes on and and somehow it all goes back to the neocons and the CIA as well as the state, the sad fact is that under a Labour Government we supported it...
  101. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    aye but like, who is responsible for bringing back the flared jeans look? I'm gonna deny that I think I may have had some sort of part to play.
  102. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:0ab366540d="flackmeister"]and thoese who benifit more often than not create[/quote:0ab366540d]

    And now in the dock alongside alastair campbell you've added the american flag manufacturers whose profits went through the roof in the weeks following the attack?
  103. avatar tenrabbits
    Look chaps.. clearly there's only one group we can blame for the atrocity. Students from Tyrone.

    After all, they've clearly been proved* to be a bunch of terrorists, and we all know they like to fly to New York* so it's obvious* that they must have hijacked the plane planning to land it in the back garden of that oul witch who gave them shite about the Waterboys the other day.

    *possibly - for more evidence search google for books on the subject, possibly written by people who also think the moon landings were faked and UFOs are "with us".
  104. avatar tinpot anto
    Here but I think the did it, like, I mean come on.
  105. avatar George W Best
    The scary thing is that there is no law preventing people like you sitting on a Jury! No wonder OJ got off :cry:
  106. avatar tinpot anto
    My main point is that in order to actually discern any realistic picture of the involvement, or not of the US Security Services in the attack would involve going back to the source evidence (long since destroyed), being able to comprehend it's importance and relevance (probably only practical for experienced specialists, who in that case have not reached a consensus) and putting it all together. The one thing that does seem to have grounded consensus is that some of the evidence has been manipulated after the fact (that passport being the obvious example) to suit a security agenda.

    As far as I can see that's a futile or at best life-consuming activity that only a crazed conspiracy nut would embark upon.

    So I think they did it, because, that's the sort of thing c*nts like this do.

    I think OJ did it too, just cause. I mean Wookiees DO NOT live on Endor after all.
  107. avatar tinpot anto
    My main point is that in order to actually discern any realistic picture of the involvement, or not of the US Security Services in the attack would involve going back to the source evidence (long since destroyed), being able to comprehend it's importance and relevance (probably only practical for experienced specialists, who in that case have not reached a consensus) and putting it all together. The one thing that does seem to have grounded consensus is that some of the evidence has been manipulated after the fact (that passport being the obvious example) to suit a security agenda.

    As far as I can see that's a futile or at best life-consuming activity that only a crazed conspiracy nut would embark upon.

    So I think they did it, because, that's the sort of thing c*nts like this do.

    I think OJ did it too, just cause. I mean Wookiees DO NOT live on Endor after all.
  108. avatar tinpot anto
    My main point is that in order to actually discern any realistic picture of the involvement, or not of the US Security Services in the attack would involve going back to the source evidence (long since destroyed), being able to comprehend it's importance and relevance (probably only practical for experienced specialists, who in that case have not reached a consensus) and putting it all together. The one thing that does seem to have grounded consensus is that some of the evidence has been manipulated after the fact (that passport being the obvious example) to suit a security agenda.

    As far as I can see that's a futile or at best life-consuming activity that only a crazed conspiracy nut would embark upon.

    So I think they did it, because, that's the sort of thing c*nts like this do.

    I think OJ did it too, just cause. I mean Wookiees DO NOT live on Endor after all.
  109. avatar tinpot anto
    See I only posted that once the CIA made more of it.

    I think they did it sure.
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  110. avatar George W Best
    Anyone else watch this tonight?
    [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/6160775.stm[/url]

    In my view they spent too much time talking to experts and not enough time talking to people who know everything they know about the collapse from watching video footage that shows the building collapsing from the same angle. Typical media whitewash :-(
  111. avatar Daithi jasper
    I found everyone who spoke completely unconvincing. Everyone.
  112. avatar Amz
    On the note of the Lisbon Treaty.

    This video footage gives an accurate account of Cowens response. Have a wee peak!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADbTCSuNSms
  113. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote:4d417e3e17="Amz"]On the note of the Lisbon Treaty.

    This video footage gives an accurate account of Cowens response. Have a wee peak!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADbTCSuNSms[/quote:4d417e3e17]


    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
  114. avatar nonlogic liam
    I demand that hermitages become fashionable again.
  115. avatar The enfant terrible
    It's like Gail Walker says:

    "You don't have to do the goose step to be a nazi".