I agree with the above post. If its genuine then £40 for a fretless is VERY cheap... but also VERY hard to master yet alone learn on. That above post (with the pink bass) seems to be ideal. Its a Tokai which is a great make and cheap at £100 ono. Dont forget you will also need a small amp to practice with, again you could pick up a small 10-20watt amp online cheap enough on the likes of ebay.
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You can get package deals online and in stores (online will probably still be cheaper even with postage) for a beginner bass, leads, tuners, spare strings, an amp and probably a dvd. If your just starting out and have nothing at all then thats what i would suggest! You can always sell it on if you decide after a while its not for you! :wink:
lol i`m not taking the piss, just i have a fretless that i don`t use now which i bought for £80 second hand bout a year ago, might`n be the easyest thing to learn on but he was looking for somthing cheap so i would sell it for £40
[quote:1270f22bb5="mark666"]lol i`m not taking the piss, just i have a fretless that i don`t use now which i bought for £80 second hand bout a year ago, might`n be the easyest thing to learn on but he was looking for somthing cheap so i would sell it for £40[/quote:1270f22bb5]Yeah, no offence. That would be a wee bargain for somebody.
I wouldn't really advise buying your first bass off the net tbh.
Go down to a local shop, matchetts, marcus, guitar emporium, whatever. Then look at basses within your price range and have a whack on them. Then get the one that feels the best. The only time I would buy a bass of the net is when say I've already played that bass somewhere and I can get it cheaper second hand in good nick on the net.
Honestly speaking from experience here, start on a squire precision. Then sound awesome and for like 200quid twith amp and bag, there a good deal. You won't need to upgrade for a good years.
If you're planning on playing bass as a long term thing I would personally advise against buying a bass for its price tag. As you play longer you'll likely end up very much wanting to upgrade it and you'll be out more money in the long run. Plus having a relatively nice instrument to play makes you want to play it more!
If you're just dabbling in bass on the side then I can understand. Or if money is very tight and you need it immediately for something. If you have a job I'd advise you saving up for a while for something relatively good, but still "cheap".
The bass I bought, and still play, is a relatively cheap Yamaha RBX 774 bass. It's good for the price. Paid about £370 in Matchett's for it. Has definitely done me proud. The only thing I want now is a stupidly expensive Warwick Vampyre NT.
Annie, google Squier Bronco bass.
I have one, it cost me just over £100 new. It's not bad. Intonation is a little bit out on a couple of frets and there are only 2 saddles so fine adjustment is difficult, but good for the money and for learning. It sounds pretty good recorded, and looks really really cool.
[quote:69f9f1568c="ryanego"]Annie, google Squier Bronco bass.
I have one, it cost me just over £100 new. It's not bad. Intonation is a little bit out on a couple of frets and there are only 2 saddles so fine adjustment is difficult, but good for the money and for learning. It sounds pretty good recorded, and looks really really cool.[/quote:69f9f1568c]
I will second mitch's comment - get the squire bronco. the only reason anyone plays bass is to look cool, and there's none cooler. actually, rather than actually buying a bass, just buy alex james's book and read that first.
Personally, I think recommeding the Bronco to a girl is a bit sexist: "Here try this, it will fit your wee delicate hands." In fact, I can think of no female in local bands who plays a short scale bass. Or any males, either. Or [i:29e5d0356c]anybody[/i:29e5d0356c], in any band I've ever heard of.
Anyway, I have a strong prejudice against instruments where you can't set the saddle individually for each string. If you can twist the saddles on the Bronco then you will be able to get all 4 strings in tune. If not, not. More trouble than it's worth in either case.
If playing bass is about being cool (and without doubt, it is the coolest instrument in any band) then you want the biggest and baddest bass you can get your hands on. :D
I'd say you should get someone reliable to go with you to Matchetts. They're the place in Belfast with the best range of budget guitars, although I don't know if they can match that GAK price for a Stagg Precision.
The best quality budget basses I've ever played are the Peavey Milestones. I liked them so much I made my housemate buy one so I could use his around the house for practising on while my other basses stay in the studio! I think Baird's music still have a few in stock.
I don't think anyone was making the Bronco suggestion because of the short scale length Steve. It is actually an alright bass and has a certain retro charm.
I like those Bronco basses - as Pete said, they do have a certain retro charm. As for short scale basses, Tina Weymouth played a Mustang bass for years with Talking Heads and rocked it. I'd love a mustang bass, actually...
As well as the fender jazz, ive a wee hofner voilin bass as used by Paul McCartney. Theyre short scale. Going from a standard scale to short scale is kinda like a go between from bass to guitar i find. certainly if u dont have big hands or arms long enough to swing from tree to tree then a short scale might be the thing to look at.
Sorry, I think these are rather ridiculous statements. Plenty of guys don't even have "big manly hands/arms" yet I've seen them manage. I was even just playing with a band called Red Like Crimson who have a girl bass player, she managed perfectly well with the oh so gigantic normal scale bass.
On another note I was under the impression that the shorter scale won't have the same low note articulation as a normally sized one anyway. Even the difference between "normal" (34 inches) and "extended" (35 inches) affects the lower note articulation, with the latter having clearer definition for low notes, and even moreso if lower tunings are used.
All said though... i'm a bloke, and i much prefer playing short scale/thin profile necks. My westone bass has a thin profile neck which is much more comfortable than other basses ive played. And it has plenty of low end clarity.
I also maybe getting a mustang soon which is short scale and its fucking lovely.
So the recommendations are perfectly reasonable imo.
Theres no difference between a short or normal scale bass intonation wise or otherwise. Its basically a scaled down version, its not like it drops a fret or 2 in order to make it shorter. The short scale hofner violin bass has 22 frets, my fender jazz has 20 frets. If you hit an open E on either bass it will sound the same (tone wise, not taking into consideration the bass's are different of course). Also the strings you use are different on a short scale compared to a normal scale.
I`ll be selling an Epiphone Thunderbird in a week or so when I get around to setting it up and putting the scratchplate back on, I liked it better with no scratchplate.
100 quid, I`ll make a topic when it`s ready if you or anyone else wants it.