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Sanchez is dead: The all new football thread
  1. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    Right Roger, can this be, can this now become the mother of all football threads on Fastfude?

    If so let me begin.....

    Cliftonville's small squad (copyright Rigsy, Dec 07) are proving to be nothing short of being bloody marvellous, last minute winners, epic cup matches, the ability to hang in there when all around think you can't last.

    No matter what happens now in the run in, this has turned out to be the best year the Reds have had in 10 years. The first Irish League club to win away and progress in Europe for years. Eddie Patterson is working miracles up the Cliftonville Rd, with a budget that is about 20 times less than the Blues and nowhere near the wage bill of the Glens.

    Now it's Linfield's squad that is being tested to the limit, especially their ageing centre halfs.

    As for the Glens, if they don't win the league this year, then it will be classed as an outright disaster for the webbed footed followers over on Dee St. Losing to the social club from Lenadoon in the Irish Cup at the weekend is a f##kin disgrace.


    You reds.



    Oh and I forgot, Champions League this week.

    you may begin.....
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  2. avatar fastfude
    Fair enough. Sent word throughout the land, the is The Football Thread (tm).
  3. avatar George W Best
    So did anyone get the new Stephen Malkmus Cd yet? is it any cop?
  4. avatar kingmob
    The continuing hilarity surrounding Liverpool's ownership remains thoroughly depressing. While a lot of fan forums appear to be welcoming DIC with open arms, I am sceptical. The Yanks seemed like a good idea last year and look how they turned out.

    We played well on Sunday against a proper bogey team. Everton have been brilliant this season but I still think we will do them for fourth.

    Babel is starting to come more and more into his own and he played well last weekend. Glad we finally tied up the deal for Mascherano - we just need to keep Xabi now and get him back to the form of his first season at Anfield. Would like to see some of the youth team start to get blooded as well. Riise is that shocking at the mo that I don't see why Insua doesn't get a chance at LB.

    The Inter performance was mighty and we should hopefully do them when we play them next. Thank Christ for Europe, that's what I say.
  5. avatar nonlogic liam
    Your all a bunch of savages!!!
  6. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    [quote:3ec93da918="George W Best"]So did anyone get the new Stephen Malkmus Cd yet? is it any cop?[/quote:3ec93da918]

    No but I read the Guardian interview over the game of scrabble. It mentioned that he was tired from staying up to watch the superbowl. Even Malkmus likes football.
  7. avatar kingmob
    Pavement were Luton Town fans and Bob Nastanovich owns a few racehorses.
  8. avatar David McLaughlin
    [quote:98393c6484]The continuing hilarity surrounding Liverpool's ownership remains thoroughly depressing. While a lot of fan forums appear to be welcoming DIC with open arms, I am sceptical. The Yanks seemed like a good idea last year and look how they turned out.[/quote:98393c6484]
    I agree. I'd much rather Hicks and Gillett sorted their differences and restored some stability to the club. All the off-field nonsense has been dragging on too long and I fear that if the club is in the hands of another unknown footballing entity next year, they'll be plagued by the same problems. Just need to settle the ship, find some money from somewhere for a decent winger and a secondary striker and give Rafa the backing he needs to continue doing his job.

    [quote:98393c6484]We played well on Sunday against a proper bogey team. Everton have been brilliant this season but I still think we will do them for fourth.[/quote:98393c6484]
    Am I alone in thinking that aiming for fourth is a bit of a dangerous one? We've got games against some big teams left. Idealistic as it sounds I'd rather the team were talking more in terms of finishing third this season (obviously first would be best but that's clearly not happening...next year though ! :))
  9. avatar drive by fader
    I agree about giving youth a chance at Liverpool. I've watched them on Setanta and there's some top wee players there. Especially Insua and Nemeth. However, i would like to see Arbeloa get more games as he's solid defensively and comfortable going forward. And i still like Pennant. Babel on the left, Pennant on the right, Crouch + Torres in the middle. How could we go wrong?! We still need a creative midfielder (aimar?) and another centre back (?) though.

    Big test tomorrow. Can we win a league game comfortably at home cos we seem to struggle there a lot while looking a bit more composed + purposeful away.

    As for the Irish League, Newry City are my team and i believe Mr Flynn is finally beginning to stamp his authority on the squad. It's taken him a while to get the players he wanted and admittedly people like Morgan and Feeney et al haven't been at their best but there are some signs this season that they could be a force with a bit more time. Great performances against BBC/UTV favourites Linfield in both cups and still in with the chance of a wee European spot in the league. Don't forget that Newry were amazing in their last European run. Knocking out the Croatian League's 4th-placed team Hrvatski Dragovoljac and beating the mighty Bundesliga team SV Duisburg 1-0 at the Showgrounds only to go out 2-1 on aggregate!

    I've got a feeling we might get the result tomorrow night at Windsor Park :)
  10. avatar kingmob
    [quote:8f6387c624]How could we go wrong?![/quote:8f6387c624]

    By playing Gerrard in the middle. He has shown this season, without a doubt, that he is not cut out to play as an orthodox central midfielder. He's definitely not the player that he thinks he is, more's the pity. I think his future at Anfield is a nettle that Rafa will have to grasp this summer.
  11. avatar mcstick
    Cliftonville's current campaign has undoubtedly been my most enjoyable season to date. I never thought I'd top following Manchester City's hilarious, rollercoaster ride through the outposts of the 3rd tier of english football but the last minute dramas and high scoring japes of this Cliftonville season have left me feeling more alive than ever. I just hope we have something (maybe even 2 things!) to show for it at the end of the season.
  12. avatar The enfant terrible
    Sky Blues all the way.
  13. avatar drive by fader
    [quote:5bd259915a]By playing Gerrard in the middle. He has shown this season, without a doubt, that he is not cut out to play as an orthodox central midfielder. He's definitely not the player that he thinks he is, more's the pity. I think his future at Anfield is a nettle that Rafa will have to grasp this summer.[/quote:5bd259915a]

    Well that's what i mean about us needing a central midfielder. Someone a bit more disciplined in that area but who can pick out a pass or ghost past a few players when the time is right. I think Gerrard is an amazing player but he can't be pinned down to any one position and needs licence to roam which may or may not be a good thing?
  14. avatar Per
    caaam on you spurrrrrrrrrs
  15. avatar Daithi jasper
    Liverpools game in hand tomorrow night should be interesting, failure to win there gives us Toffees a little bit more hope. That bloody game in hand has been doing my head all season.
  16. avatar RockShandy
    Cliftonville are my hope for the Irish league this year, but Linfield's squad is so strong that it's hard to look past them. Everytime Linfield seem to have a drop in form, they come back and show everyone why they're the best. My team are a lot of aul baws and have fallen away dramatically from the Setanta spots of late.

    As for English football, I'm hoping that we finally show our form in the later stages of Europe and go out tonight to finish Lyon off early. Hopefully Giggs doesn't make the squad as his little impact and constant whinging irks me.
  17. avatar monkey_wa?
    [quote:c2e83511ba]As for English football, I'm hoping that we finally show our form in the later stages of Europe and go out tonight to finish Lyon off early[/quote:c2e83511ba]

    I would agree that utd need to go for Lyon early as utd are always at their best when going straight for the jugular. But what do u mean finally show our form? As opposed to the form we showed in the groups (5w 1d) or the form in last years later stages (semi finalists? 7-1!!)

    I think utd have hit their purple patch at just the right stage of the season and the fact that they are using the entire squad to do it and being able to rest players such as rooney and ronaldo is even more impressive.

    I think thats the luxury that rafa benitez is searching for with liverpool but he buys too many mediocre players and refuses to blood the youth team at liverpool, who seem to have a few decent players. Watched the youth cup final against utd last year and there were a few who stood out as pontential candidates to make step up. The signings of Torres, babel and mascherano are a start.. but vorinin??? laughable! Didnt even have a good record before he came to liverpool.
  18. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:5aa64ee73f="monkey_wa?"]I would agree that utd need to go for Lyon early as utd are always at their best when going straight for the jugular. But what do u mean finally show our form? As opposed to the form we showed in the groups (5w 1d) or the form in last years later stages (semi finalists? 7-1!!)

    I think utd have hit their purple patch at just the right stage of the season and the fact that they are using the entire squad to do it and being able to rest players such as rooney and ronaldo is even more impressive.

    I think thats the luxury that rafa benitez is searching for with liverpool but he buys too many mediocre players and refuses to blood the youth team at liverpool, who seem to have a few decent players. Watched the youth cup final against utd last year and there were a few who stood out as pontential candidates to make step up. The signings of Torres, babel and mascherano are a start.. but vorinin??? laughable! Didnt even have a good record before he came to liverpool.[/quote:5aa64ee73f]

    United aren't a purple patch kind of team. We tend to mix up fantastic results with really, really poor results. The West Ham, Bolton and recent City loss all came when we were playing good football. Fergie's not the most tactical of managers, so when players don't click on a night he rarely makes a change to swing the game back in our favour.

    Rooney and Ronaldo need to take the next step and prove they are consistent at the top end of the European game, something neither has truly proven yet. It doesn't help when Fergie sticks Rooney on the left in Europe, but we shouldn't have that issue tonight.

    Liverpool won't succeed in the league while Benitez remains in charge. That's a simple fact. He doesn't have the knowledge or style needed to negotiate an entire season in the Premier League. His rotation, his negativity at home and away, his incredibly poor signings.
  19. avatar mcstick
    [quote="RockShandy"] constant whinging [quote="RockShandy"]
    :o

    You don't like players who constantly whinge?!!

    How can I say this?

    I think you're supporting the wrong club.

    Sorry mate, red rag to a bull there like!
  20. avatar kingmob
    This is going to turn into Liverpool fans vs Man U fans isn't it :lol:

    In defence of Rafa's signings, I don't think he has been too bad. No one envisaged Morientes being a flop, Kuyt admittedly has had a dreadful season although his da dying during the summer hardly helped. Pennant has been ok. But who else has been an £8 million plus flop?

    Asides from that the poorer players we have (Voronin obv) have been picked up for peanuts. Anyone who we have signed that has been shocking (Jan Kromkamp) has usually had their transfer fee recouped when they have been moved on.

    We have also been hindered by Rick Parry's incomprehensibly stupid and slow approach to negotiating transfers. The amount of players we have missed out on because of him :evil:

    I'm in two minds about Rafa in the league. The goings on have not helped in but then he does seem willfully difficult at times - rotating without good reason.

    However, compared to the other big teams, we only have three £20m something players - Masch, Gerrard and Torres. How many do Arsenal/Man U/Chelsea have? The young players don't seem entirely ready yet. Hopefully next season more will be blooded. Rafa is investing in youth, which is encouraging. But it will take several seasons to bear fruit. How long was it before Wenger started that production line? And Rafa has been more successful than Wenger in recent seasons too...
  21. avatar RockShandy
    The argument that Rafa generally recoups the money is a pointless one, as it still leaves Liverpool as short in quality as it was when he arrived.

    Morientes, Paletta, Gonzalez, Kuyt, Voronin, Itandje, Sissoko, Pellegrino, Zenden, Josemi, Nunez, Kromkamp, Fowler...

    All very poor signings who did nothing to further Liverpool.

    Then there are others who are misused or unproven...

    Luis Garcia, Crouch, Pennant, Bellamy, Babel

    Garcia gone when he was one player who could add something from nothing and the other four criminally underused or used incorrectly... Babel is no winger, Bellamy was your best forward.
  22. avatar rigsyATL
    1. Linfield
    2. Glens
    3. Cliftonville

    wait and see.

    still shite if it ends up like this tho :-/
  23. avatar mcstick
    [quote:2dab771d13="rigsyATL"]1. Linfield
    2. Glens
    3. Cliftonville

    wait and see.

    still <img src='http://www.fastfude.org/forums/images/smiles/019.gif' /> if it ends up like this tho :-/[/quote:2dab771d13]
    You may well be right but i don't see any evidence that suggests you will be. Blind faith isn't normally a sound basis for prediction.
  24. avatar voiceofthepeople
    [quote:cd4059503c]By playing Gerrard in the middle. He has shown this season, without a doubt, that he is not cut out to play as an orthodox central midfielder. He's definitely not the player that he thinks he is, more's the pity. I think his future at Anfield is a nettle that Rafa will have to grasp this summer. [/quote:cd4059503c]

    For Gerrard read Henry at the end of his Arsenal career. All about him and other players falling into the trap, too, of looking for him to run things when others are much more capable.

    Liverpool would be a better side without the headless chicken, Hollywood ball nonsense he produces for 95% of the time. The other 5% isn't 'inspirational' as it's made out to be, it's just the law of averages that if you keep spunking away possession with shots from 30yds then some of them will go in eventually.
  25. avatar Stumblefish
    Is this where I should come and whine about West Brom pissing away their promotion chances by accidently having a cup run.

    I'm new here, both geographocally and forumically and I'm finding my feet still. I'm missing the Baggies and interested in going to some of the local league matches to fill the gaping void they have left.

    And to throw in my tuppence, Liverpools current state is very alarming for the game. The yanks are digging themselves a bigger and bigger hole fiancially, the fans are worried, the managers trying his hardest not to look worried, the players look confused and the press smell blood. A recipe for disaster if ever I saw it. Either Everton or Villa will be in the Champs next year I think.
  26. avatar ShowYourBones
    [quote:72f217656b="kingmob"]However, compared to the other big teams, we only have three £20m something players - Masch, Gerrard and Torres.[/quote:72f217656b]
    Lucas?

    For me, Lucas looks to be one of the most interesting finds of Rafa's tenure. Comfortable on the ball, intelligent off it, can pass a ball as neatly as Xabi and has a wonderful strike. Is it any wonder a host of clubs enquired about him during the transfer window.

    As for the situation surrounding DIC, imo, we can't get rid of the Americans soon enough. They have plunged the club further into debt and by openly admitting discussions with Jurgen Klinnsman have undermined Rafa. DIC may have their own agenda however I'd gladly trust a lifelong Liverpool fan over that of two American businessmen.
  27. avatar voiceofthepeople
    Of course, whether they are Liverpool fans or not has nothing to do with it - unless you're deluded enough to think that being 'lifelong' fans will mean they suddenly put the wellbeing of the club ahead of their own financial position?

    'DIC may have their own agenda'?

    D'you think? Imagine an organisation aimed at making money, trying to make money.
  28. avatar gtm
    I still can't believe that some people, summer after summer, delude themselves that Liverpool will be a title-chasing team.
  29. avatar ShowYourBones
    [quote:1b14887e7d="voiceofthepeople"]their own financial position?
    [/quote:1b14887e7d]
    Well their own financial position is not as precarious as that of Gillet and Hicks. Therefore I can see DIC's agenda being alot more honourable than that of G&H.
  30. avatar ConorKane
    [quote:0c74117e7b]United aren't a purple patch kind of team. We tend to mix up fantastic results with really, really poor results. The West Ham, Bolton and recent City loss all came when we were playing good football. Fergie's not the most tactical of managers, so when players don't click on a night he rarely makes a change to swing the game back in our favour.

    Rooney and Ronaldo need to take the next step and prove they are consistent at the top end of the European game, something neither has truly proven yet. It doesn't help when Fergie sticks Rooney on the left in Europe, but we shouldn't have that issue tonight.[/quote:0c74117e7b]

    Totally agree with you. For me Ronaldo has not really cut it against the bigger teams. He tends to shy away in the bigger games and does not make much of an impact. Looking back to last year when we were away to Milan he was barely able to complete a simple pass. Even at the home leg (which I was at) he was woeful. Top class defenders aren't going to give him the space he is used to in the Premiership. He needs to realise that it isn't always appropriate to try and run past every single player. Sometimes he's going to have to mix it up a bit, find another way to get the better of top class opposition.

    We are in a much stronger position than last season. There's more quality throughout the team and strenth in depth. Nani is looking a good bet to become a long term successor to Giggs (who has started to decline IMO) but it will be a few years until he is the finished product. Scholes can still put on a good display when he isn't crocked but Anderson is starting to come through. If he can add goal scoring to his amazing passing and vision he will be a fantastic talent.

    I think all we need now is another forward to take the pressure off Rooney and Tevez and perhaps to find a long term replacement for Red Nev at right back.
  31. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    Below is a list of the first batch of live matches from this season's Setanta Cup
    [code:1:f0899c6ebb]
    Match Night Day & Date Match
    1 Tue, Feb 26 DROGHEDA UTD v CLIFTONVILLE
    2 Mon, Mar 10 LINFIELD v DERRY CITY
    3 Tues, Mar 18 CORK CITY v DROGHEDA UTD
    4 Mon, April 7 DERRY CITY v ST. PATRICK’S ATH.
    4 Mon, April 7 GLENTORAN v LINFIELD
    5 Mon, April 14 DUNGANNON SW. v DROGHEDA UTD
    6 Tue, April 15 ST. PATRICK’S ATH. v LINFIELD[/code:1:f0899c6ebb]
  32. avatar Cake
    Derry City to win the entire thing. A thumping win over Linfield and Glentoran wouldn't go amiss so we can put any lingering notion of the Irish League being on par with the League of Ireland to bed.

    Yes, I'm being controversial for the sake of discussion. Go discuss!
  33. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    [quote:0cc5bb7f91="Cake"]Derry City to win the entire thing.

    Yes, I'm being controversial for the sake of discussion. Go discuss![/quote:0cc5bb7f91]
    Nowt controversial there old bean! Don't be underestimating the Stephen Kenny influence, he's brought in some pretty good signings, he can motivate the players that are already there and we're due a good run at the Setanta. Not even gonna think about how the league will pan out though!
  34. avatar Stumblefish
    Read this this morning and thought it might be of interest to all the poor disgruntled Liverpool fans who were here a day or two ago (And possibly Man Utd fans too what with the Glaziers being in charge), it's all about Randy Lerner at Villa and how not all American owners are bastards who buy clubs then use said clubs profits to pay off the debts they've accrued.

    [url]http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/03/05/lerner_gives_the_foreign_owner.html[/url]

    I still think he could turn out to be evil though despite my alliegence to the Baggies would be disappointed if he actually did shiv on the Villa. We may sing it at home games but we don't really want that to happen. Different story with Wolves though.
  35. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    I'd personally love to see Cliftonville get Derry at some stage in the Setanta, and give them a good slapping. They can be classed in the same bracket as Linfield and Glentoran....insufferable tw@ts.

    The form we are in this season, we could esily turn Derry over. Drogheda are the best team in the island currently, and we had them flying by the seat off their pants at times last week. Being a full time club and having that sort of set-up only got them through in the end, by being a little sharper in the final third.

    You Reds.
  36. avatar mcstick
    Derry ain't nothing to worry about. Bring em on to solitude and we'll sort em out
  37. avatar George W Best
    At Old Trafford today was a fan who had obviously spent a lot of time making a beautiful banner saying 'The Manchester United FA Cup First 11' and on it he had made out a lay out of a pitch with stars in each of the players positions and inside each star was a year that Man Utd had won the cup.

    Well he must be the happiest Man Utd fan in the world as he gets to use his wonderful banner next year again!

    Play up Pompey, Pompey play up!
    We're on our way to Wem-ber-ley!

    For the first time since the war we're favourites to win the FA Cup! Who'd a thunk it?!?!

    (And if any Man Utd fans would like to know why every right thinking person hates your lot so much, just read Sir Alex's comments from after the match. More of the usual pathetic snivelling and grumbling. You really can't lose a match with any class can you?
    For such a successful club you really have no appreciation of what sport is all about.)
  38. avatar Per
    Barnsley all the way
  39. avatar gtm
    Man Utd are actually reverting to type. Ferguson's whining yesterday was a joke. I'd have to say that if it was between them and Chelsea I'd take Chelsea everytime now.
  40. avatar gavinearly
    Maybe if the Wizard (Fergie) didn't have his relentless desire to win then he wouldn't have achieved half of what he has done in his career.

    I don't care - all the teams whine, it just seems that it gets more focus when we do it.
  41. avatar George W Best
    There's whining and then there's this
    [url]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tsRxjNZlqNo[/url]
    Boo hoo poor wee persecuted United, I think we should all stop what we're doing and organise a benefit gig for them.
  42. avatar mcstick
    [quote:135a13bc5d="gavinearly"]Maybe if the Wizard (Fergie) didn't have his relentless desire to win then he wouldn't have achieved half of what he has done in his career.

    I don't care - all the teams whine, it just seems that it gets more focus when we do it.[/quote:135a13bc5d]

    Complete and utter bollocks. A bad loser is a bad loser no matter how you try to spin it. It's classless, pathetic and laughable. Honestly, I really hope ferguson and queiroz feel embarrassed today cos I feel embarassed for them.
  43. avatar T Entertainment
    But here, the Sunday Tribune and UTV's Ken Reid reporting today that the DUP have conclusively decided not to back the Maze in the wake of Chucklegate, ergo: it cannot happen.
    Looking now at redevelopment of Windsor or the 'Blanchflower' stadium, with the Glens as residents, apparently...
  44. avatar Cake
    I was at White Hart Lane yesterday. I feel like hanging myself.
  45. avatar Cake
    Oh, a new national stadium with The Glens as the main residents? That will make the bluemen happy.
  46. avatar willy_no1
    you just love all these cliftonville "fans" nowadays just because they're tasting abit of success and good form! its just like your so-called chelsea "fans" crawling out of the bushes 2 or 3 seasons ago during the highs of mourinho and abramovich. neverless i know my beloved glens are almost certainly out of the running for the league so i do hope the reds finish first.. anyone but baldy jeffrey and his bluedogs

    on liverpool.. voronin was a free transfer so the only money wasted are his wages plus everyone knows gerrard is a world class player, he does wonders for liverpool and i bet any united, arsenal or chelsea fan would love to see gerrard put on their teams shirt!

    national stadium.. its a joke that northern ireland have to play their matches at windsor park! the place is a hole! the railway stand is never open, the south stand is made of wood and therefor is a fire hazard and the north stand is in serious need of repair and not to mention the pitch itself, i often wonder what linfield actually do with the money the IFA give them for using windsor park for international matches :roll:
  47. avatar kingmob
    In a world of England's Brave John Terrys and Ashley Coles, it's good to see that there are some decent footballers out there.

    [url=http://www.volzy.com/abitaboutme.html#]This is hilarious.[/url]

    Other footballers who seem decent fellows:

    [img:ab0e77a279]http://www.football.co.uk/shared/images/news/JimmyBullardNew.jpg[/img:ab0e77a279]

    [img:ab0e77a279]http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/04/06/speed_gary_bwfc_profile_2007.jpg[/img:ab0e77a279]

    and this sexy young beast:

    [img:ab0e77a279]http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/09_01/Torres2DM0209_468x313.jpg[/img:ab0e77a279]

    I wuv him.

    (and yes, I have nicked this thread drift from F365)
  48. avatar clss_act_00
    [quote:c0c8a99370="kingmob"][url=http://www.volzy.com/abitaboutme.html#]This is hilarious.[/url][/quote:c0c8a99370]

    excellent!
  49. avatar mcstick
    [quote="willy_no1"]you just love all these cliftonville "fans" nowadays just because they're tasting abit of success and good form! its just like your so-called chelsea "fans" crawling out of the bushes 2 or 3 seasons ago during the highs of mourinho and abramovich.

    Blimey! I've heard it all now. Cliftonville fans accused of gloryhunting?! By a feckin liverpool fan!!?! Have a word with yourself mate
  50. avatar RockShandy
    The referee was terrible in the Man Utd game and did give everything to Pompey but it doesn't detract from us being unable to finish the multitude of chances.
  51. avatar George W Best
    [quote:8e1b3ca160]The referee was terrible in the Man Utd game and did give everything to Pompey[/quote:8e1b3ca160]

    [i:8e1b3ca160]Everything?[/i:8e1b3ca160]
    Well that's not really the case now is it? And even if a few decisions went against Utd they really only have themselves to blame what with Divey McGhee himself Ronaldo and his play acting down through the years.

    Man U's attitude towards referees in general is sickening, they seem to think that they are only there to provide enough extra time at the end of drawn match so that they can get a winner. They have shown time and time again that they have no respect for the officals, an attitude which can only be bad for the game as a whole in the long run.

    Still I await the outcome of this with interest
    [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7286112.stm[/url]
    I'm predicting the pair of them back-track big style (providing someone has gave Sir Alex his dummy back by then)
  52. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    Cliftonville fans glory hunters? F##k me that's a first. You'll find that myself and McStick have been banging on about the Reds on this site for a while now.

    I personally still think the Glens are still in the title hunt, if they won their final 7 games, they would do, especially since they have the Reds and Blues to play.

    So much for Derry City giving Linfield a tanking last night Cake, suppose it's up to Cliftonville to do that in the Irish Cup Semi-Final in 3 weeks.

    you reds.
  53. avatar Cake
    Linfield are cheating bástards, we gave a debut to five new players, Linfield are cheating bástards, Jeffrey has a head like Mr Tayto, We've only one competitive game under our belt, We never beat Linfield, Linfield are cheating bástards, Windsor Park is a dump.

    There's an excuse in there somewhere, not a very good one, but an excuse nonetheless.

    In all honesty, I'd be surprised if Derry get out of the group. Again.
  54. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    Cake, after that first paragraph, can I just say how much I love you, but in a purely hetrosexual way. :smt060

    Linfield are indeed sh1thawks.
  55. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    It'll be a struggle, especially if you come across c*nts like that week in week out, that decision at 2-1 truly ruined any chance of a comeback:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cjMvyNacbY[/url]
  56. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:bcee34925f="George W Best"][quote:bcee34925f]The referee was terrible in the Man Utd game and did give everything to Pompey[/quote:bcee34925f]

    [i:bcee34925f]Everything?[/i:bcee34925f]
    Well that's not really the case now is it? And even if a few decisions went against Utd they really only have themselves to blame what with Divey McGhee himself Ronaldo and his play acting down through the years.

    Man U's attitude towards referees in general is sickening, they seem to think that they are only there to provide enough extra time at the end of drawn match so that they can get a winner. They have shown time and time again that they have no respect for the officals, an attitude which can only be bad for the game as a whole in the long run.

    Still I await the outcome of this with interest
    [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7286112.stm[/url]
    I'm predicting the pair of them back-track big style (providing someone has gave Sir Alex his dummy back by then)[/quote:bcee34925f]

    Oh dear, you do believe the crap the media spout. Ah dear.

    Ferguson and Queiroz will be fined, simple as that.
  57. avatar George W Best
    Whereas you sir do believe the rot what Sir Alex spouts!
    Yes they'll only get fined but your lot will also win nought this year, mark my words!
  58. avatar mcstick
    If I were an Inter fan I'd be thinking there may be some sort of conspiracy at the moment.
  59. avatar Cake
    [quote:2be7d09ef6="Seamusmaguidhir"]It'll be a struggle, especially if you come across c*nts like that week in week out, that decision at 2-1 truly ruined any chance of a comeback:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cjMvyNacbY[/url][/quote:2be7d09ef6]

    Yeah, that was abysmal - but sure it's the nature of the game nowadays. What really rankles with me about that blatant dive was Bryan Hamilton's squeals of "There was contact", when quite clearly there wasn't.

    Smitty - I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone, north or south that has anything decent to say about that shower of shít, other than their own supporters of course.

    Anyway, if nothing else, the Setanta games sharpen us up for the league campaign and hopefully proves to be a worthwhile run out ahead of the local derby with Finn Harps on Friday night - I game I'll be attending!

    Of course, it still smarts to get beaten by that lot, especially with such a contentious penalty shout.
  60. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:fdaf9fc2dc="George W Best"]Whereas you sir do believe the rot what Sir Alex spouts!
    Yes they'll only get fined but your lot will also win nought this year, mark my words![/quote:fdaf9fc2dc]

    He spoke no rot here. The ref was inept all game long. That's a fact.
  61. avatar mcstick
    So he was right then?
  62. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:ab68638c3e="mcstick"]So he was right then?[/quote:ab68638c3e]

    Be more vague, please...
  63. avatar kingmob
    I absolutely adore Fernando Torres. If he keeps this up he should be Player of the Season without a fúcking doubt.
  64. avatar mcstick
    Ok, for the benefit of the hard of thinking.

    Was Alex Ferguson, manager of Manchester United (a leading English association football club) right to describe Referee assessor Keith Hackett and Martin Atkinson, referee of the 2007/08 Football Association challenge cup quarter final tie against Portsmouth Football Club at Old Trafford football stadium in the Metropolitan Borough of Trafford, Greater Manchester, England on the 8th of March 2008 thus?

    "It's absolutely ridiculous. I cannot explain it.

    "Managers get sacked because of things like that and he's going to referee a game next week."

    "Hackett has got a lot to answer for in this country. He's not doing his job properly.

    "He should be assessed like everyone else is assessed. I'm assessed as a manager, the players are assessed, referees are assessed.

    "Martin Atkinson will referee next week, no problem, but his performance today should not be accepted in our game."

    "I agree with Sepp Blatter, the standards in our game as opposed to the Continent - the tolerance level - is behind Europe. I think it's a big problem."

    "The game was decided by the decision not to give us a penalty.

    "They had great confidence to hang on knowing the referee was on their side.

    "Lassana Diarra had eight or nine fouls in the match. It's incredible. I've got to agree with Arsene Wenger. Someone is going to get a serious injury in our game. He's had one himself with Eduardo.

    "It's not a nice thing to talk about, but the treatment Ronaldo is getting I'm worried about him.

    "Keith Hackett is in a nice, comfortable position and does nothing really. I don't think he makes a contribution to the referees' performances in our country.

    "That should be addressed. He's not doing his job properly.

    "That guy (Atkinson) will go and referee next week no problem. You see his favourites always get the games and that's disappointing."


    Furthermore, was the above mentioned Ferguson's assistant Carlos Queiroz right to speak of the same referee in the following terms?

    "The referee is a disgrace. He deserves somebody to come to the side of the pitch after five minutes, give him a red card and pull him out of the game. That is my opinion of this robber. We did our job, Portsmouth did their job but the referee didn't."
  65. avatar gtm
    I love the way Alan Green gets more spiteful and racist each year.
  66. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:612ab81046="mcstick"]Ok, for the benefit of the hard of thinking.

    Was Alex Ferguson, manager of Manchester United (a leading English association football club) right to describe Referee assessor Keith Hackett and Martin Atkinson, referee of the 2007/08 Football Association challenge cup quarter final tie against Portsmouth Football Club at Old Trafford football stadium in the Metropolitan Borough of Trafford, Greater Manchester, England on the 8th of March 2008 thus?

    "It's absolutely ridiculous. I cannot explain it.

    "Managers get sacked because of things like that and he's going to referee a game next week."

    "Hackett has got a lot to answer for in this country. He's not doing his job properly.

    "He should be assessed like everyone else is assessed. I'm assessed as a manager, the players are assessed, referees are assessed.

    "Martin Atkinson will referee next week, no problem, but his performance today should not be accepted in our game."

    "I agree with Sepp Blatter, the standards in our game as opposed to the Continent - the tolerance level - is behind Europe. I think it's a big problem."

    "The game was decided by the decision not to give us a penalty.

    "They had great confidence to hang on knowing the referee was on their side.

    "Lassana Diarra had eight or nine fouls in the match. It's incredible. I've got to agree with Arsene Wenger. Someone is going to get a serious injury in our game. He's had one himself with Eduardo.

    "It's not a nice thing to talk about, but the treatment Ronaldo is getting I'm worried about him.

    "Keith Hackett is in a nice, comfortable position and does nothing really. I don't think he makes a contribution to the referees' performances in our country.

    "That should be addressed. He's not doing his job properly.

    "That guy (Atkinson) will go and referee next week no problem. You see his favourites always get the games and that's disappointing."


    Furthermore, was the above mentioned Ferguson's assistant Carlos Queiroz right to speak of the same referee in the following terms?

    "The referee is a disgrace. He deserves somebody to come to the side of the pitch after five minutes, give him a red card and pull him out of the game. That is my opinion of this robber. We did our job, Portsmouth did their job but the referee didn't."[/quote:612ab81046]

    In short, yes, they both were absolutely right.

    It happens, we also missed a shed load of chances (as I've already said) but at the same time they should be dropping referees after a performance like that shown on Sunday. He was inept from start to finish.
  67. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:5c9cf51b8e="kingmob"]I absolutely adore Fernando Torres. If he keeps this up he should be Player of the Season without a fúcking doubt.[/quote:5c9cf51b8e]

    Are you serious?

    Take a look at Mr. C Ronaldo for that accolade.
  68. avatar kingmob
    Ronaldo has had a great season granted but when was the last time he properly stepped up and made the difference in a big game?

    I think he is an absolutely tremendous player (as Smitty will testify) but I have yet to see him run a game against a top European side or one of the big four. Every time he plays us we always keep him in our pocket. Never stops United from beating us, more is the fúcking pity :oops:

    Ronaldo has the ability to truly run great games against the top teams but he has yet to do it.
  69. avatar mcstick
    Apart from the penalty united might have had early on I didn't think Atkinson got much wrong. He certainly didn't do anything bad enough to warrant the barrage of world class bleating that followed.
  70. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    All I'll say about United at the weekend, was that we were f##kin robbed. The referee was a scrotum.

    and yes, Fernando Torres, we really should have signed him after the World Cup.
  71. avatar kingmob
    Still think the Double is possible Smitty or will your European voodoo hit you again?
  72. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:f7f81c64ea="kingmob"]Ronaldo has had a great season granted but when was the last time he properly stepped up and made the difference in a big game?

    I think he is an absolutely tremendous player (as Smitty will testify) but I have yet to see him run a game against a top European side or one of the big four. Every time he plays us we always keep him in our pocket. Never stops United from beating us, more is the fúcking pity :oops:

    Ronaldo has the ability to truly run great games against the top teams but he has yet to do it.[/quote:f7f81c64ea]

    Whereas Torres scores in short bursts (three hattricks mask how often he truly contributes in matches) and has a terrible record away from home.

    As for keeping Ronaldo quiet, you do it at the expense of two players very often. This year we saw that it took your left back and Mascherano to marshall him a lot of the time. That's one less player for us to battle with in midfield, hence Anderson was able to have a very good match and more than matched Gerrard on that occasion.

    It's very easy to say that players don't perform against big teams, but it's more often the impact they have with occupying the opposition than any great individual performaces.

    Ronaldo has scored 30 in 31 games this season, I believe. That far outshines Torres in surely even the most biased of fan's eyes.

    [quote:f7f81c64ea="dirty stevie smitty"]All I'll say about United at the weekend, was that we were f##kin robbed. The referee was a scrotum.

    and yes, Fernando Torres, we really should have signed him after the World Cup.[/quote:f7f81c64ea]

    Torres didn't want to come to United. Let him go to the club he supports and be wasted talent. I'll shed no tears for the fella. We did ok without Alan Shearer when he turned us down, I'm sure we'll cope without Torres.

    [quote:f7f81c64ea="mcstick"]Apart from the penalty united might have had early on I didn't think Atkinson got much wrong. He certainly didn't do anything bad enough to warrant the barrage of world class bleating that followed.[/quote:f7f81c64ea]

    Ronaldo was flattened after a few seconds, to the point where he ended up off the playing surface. No booking, not even a foul.

    The only contact between Kuszczak and Baros was the forward's knee dragging down into the keeper's head. The player manufactured the contact.

    Even if it is a penalty, we had one player then closing Baros down and one on the line. That's rules out the possibility of a red card for denying a certain goal.

    He got all the big decisions wrong in the game.

    [quote:f7f81c64ea="kingmob"]Still think the Double is possible Smitty or will your European voodoo hit you again?[/quote:f7f81c64ea]

    Ferguson's idiotic 4-5-1 will cost us in Europe, if anything does.
  73. avatar zep
    Glad to see the IL teams looking competitive. I'm a glenman myself (gutted) but it's good to see the Blues doing well too (only in the Setanta!) maybe C'ville will keep up the IL charge.
  74. avatar mcstick
    You see, in the days before premiership footballers became big girl's blouses, Diarra's challenge would not have been an issue. I've been on the receiving end of many such challenges. Once, I was hit so hard I ended up landing on my loaf and sustaining concussion. The resulting throw in to the opposition didn't worry me. If that's a booking then more's the pity in my opinion. Aside from that, if you think Kuczak didn't concede a pen and warrant a red card then you really should have gone to specsavers.
  75. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:2b4aa5a54e="mcstick"]You see, in the days before premiership footballers became big girl's blouses, Diarra's challenge would not have been an issue. I've been on the receiving end of many such challenges. Once, I was hit so hard I ended up landing on my loaf and sustaining concussion. The resulting throw in to the opposition didn't worry me. If that's a booking then more's the pity in my opinion. Aside from that, if you think Kuczak didn't concede a pen and warrant a red card then you really should have gone to specsavers.[/quote:2b4aa5a54e]

    A penalty, yes. Maybe. But the law says that it must be a clear goalscoring oppurtunity denied by the foul, and it wasn't as there were two men between the ball and the net. In no way was that a red card. No one can ever know if we could've sneaked an equaliser with eleven men on the pitch. We mugged ourselves off by missing so many chances and employing ridiculous tactics late on in the game, before the goal, but the referee's mistakes also played a part.

    It's in the past now though, and I can only hope it restrengthens our focus on the league and on Europe. Chelsea are poised to upset everyone with games at home against Arsenal and ourselves to come and a good squad of players. Arsenal are capable of turning anyone over on their day and we also have tough games against Arsenal and Liverpool coming up. Hopefully Van Der Sar is back soon, as Kuszczak isn't quite of the standard required for some of the games coming up and Foster is only just back from injury and he made a lot of rash decisions in his first reserve match back that he could have easily been punished for on a bigger stage.

    [quote:2b4aa5a54e="zep"]Glad to see the IL teams looking competitive. I'm a glenman myself (gutted) but it's good to see the Blues doing well too (only in the Setanta!) maybe C'ville will keep up the IL charge.[/quote:2b4aa5a54e]

    I think Linfield's superior squad will come good at the business end of the season. Cliftonville have a very thin squad in comparison and I expect a few injuries to occur at Solitude on what is quite a tough surface to play good, flowing football on. When I was there recently, it was a ploughed field by the end.
  76. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    I loved seeing Rio get Merked between the posts for the penalty. BRAAAAP.

    Ferguson is a cúnt. Everyone knows if you're a cocky wee shíte who constantly winges, trys to make dícks of and shows no respect to other players then people are going to try and break you - At every level of the game. It's not right, but it's ok. Especially when its The Greasy One.
  77. avatar mcstick
    I can't really imagine much more of a clear goalscoring opportunity being denied but I guess you have made up your mind. Sounds like sour grapes to me but we'll have to agree to disagree.
  78. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    Cliftonville FC top of the league.

    6 games to go, bring it on.

    you reds
  79. avatar the dirty weed
    "Linfield manager David Jeffrey believes new leaders Cliftonville are now the favourites to win the Carnegie Premier League title.
    After their 2-1 win away to Larne on Saturday, Cliftonville are a point ahead of Linfield who were held to a 0-0 draw at Lisburn Distillery.

    "Cliftonville have it in their hands now," said Jeffrey who is aiming for a third successive championship.

    "The reality is they are the favourites and we are the team chasing them.""

    usual mind-game bollocks from uncle fester.
    yes, that is the reality but the blues have the strength in depth and the resources. i'd love it if the reds or the glens can put one over them this year.
  80. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    As Tommy Breslin our assistant manager, said at the weekend:

    Go into Eastwoods and they will tell you who are favourites.

    The usual Jeffery mind games from the Blue flith.
  81. avatar Cake
    After last night's game between Dungannon Swifts and Cliftonville, is it fair to say that no one is really taking the Setanta all that seriously this year?
  82. avatar mcstick
    Whereas it would certainly be nice to see the reds do well in the setanta, I think it's fair to say we have bigger fish to fry at the moment.
    With that in mind, I fully understand Eddie's decision to give some players a well earned rest last night.
  83. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    The Setanta has come a year too early for us, we are fighting on two fronts domestically. But I'll still take the away day to Cork next month. :D
  84. avatar rigsyATL
    cliftonville start to bottle it, squad too small etc

    smitty, you should save yourself a lot of heartache and start listening to what i say

    :-)


    (altho having said that, glens were less than convincing against a poor limavady side, so i probably shouldn't be counting chickens)
  85. avatar mcstick
    You're a genius rigsby.
  86. avatar rigsyATL
    I KNOW!!!!

    if only people realized it.
  87. avatar mcstick
    Ah well, I suppose things could be worse.


    Monumental managerial cock ups no.463
    [img:db539a293f]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44462000/jpg/_44462388_hamill_cele_203.jpg[/img:db539a293f]


    Well played Alan!
  88. avatar rigsyATL
    only glensman who stitched us up that day was our keeper :-/
  89. avatar cruz
    Never been so glad to see one of our lot go to your lot!!! HA HA HA!!! :-D
  90. avatar RockShandy
    Lamb bones at the ready.... FIRE.
  91. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    F##k, the last 2 Reds matches have left me nearly shattered. Completely gutted. The Inter-Toto campaign that we began in early June has come back to bite us in the backside. The players are running on empty.

    Now our season hinges on the Semi Final of the Irish Cup against the Blues on Saturday lunchtime.
  92. avatar cruz
    That crappy Setanta Cup can't be helping matters either. Now one of the dreaded "Big Two" are gonna scoop the Gibson again. Tragic. :(
  93. avatar zep
    earwig joe, etc
  94. avatar Crackity_jones
    2-0, Lafferty and Healy. Lovely stuff, Georgia are genuinely balls though.
  95. avatar Crackity_jones
    Ha, 3-0! Laff again.
  96. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    yes but Peter Thompson's goal - talk about bringing the Irish League to the international stage

    a pleasing result though
  97. avatar Cake
    Poor old Cliftonville.

    Still, it was all overshadowed by this

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7322242.stm
  98. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    He scores goals galore, he's Paul Scholes.

    Plese give us Liverpool in the final, I honestly can't see them beating United.
  99. avatar kingmob
    You're a hell of a lot more confident about United than you were a few days ago :lol:

    I'm nervous about this evening. Last night must have been torture for United fans - the guy I was watching it with was a wreck in the second half.
  100. avatar bernard
    missing: 'the best player in the world'. last seen lining up before last night's semi-final. police are investigating reports that he was brutally upstaged.

    shame barca are a bunch of goal-shy wasters. just fuckin shoot!
    ah well
  101. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    My nerves were gone the last 30 minutes, I was a gibbering wreck by the end of it.

    Give us the f##kin murderous Scouse flith, and let's bury the Liverpool myth for once and for all.
  102. avatar PaulATL
    well my god, its a nightmare whoever wins in now.
  103. avatar Gogs
    The atmosphere at Old Trafford on Tuesday night was amazing.

    Really hope we win it now.. I would've been more confident of beating Liverpool than Chelsea.. :?
  104. avatar rentaghost
    Chelsea in Moscow. May as well be a home game for them.
  105. avatar George W Best
    I wonder if the bookies are taking bets on how many Chelsea and Man Utd fans will be coming back in the cargo hold from this match.
    Seriously who thought Moscow would be a good place for this? Man U fans plus Chelsea fans plus bat-shit violent Russkies all in the same place? No good can come of this.
  106. avatar gtm
    I haven't been following the Premier League much as of late, but why has Roman not been at the past two Chelsea games?

    Avram Grant kneeling on the touchline last night - I didn't even think the man was capable of showing that much emotion. Fair play to Chelsea, they have the strength and firepower to go and win the thing now I reckon. Still a bunch of pirates.

    P.S. Let's hope dirty Leeds don't get their 15 points back today. I can see a mutiny in the Football League if they do.
  107. avatar JTM
    Highlight of the night (apart from the goals) has to be Gerrard grabbing the ball off Avram Grant in the dugout and knocking him over. Is it on YouTube yet?
  108. avatar kingmob
    I'm sure someone on the F365 message boards has already made it into a .gif.

    It made me laugh though.
  109. avatar RockShandy
    I hate Chelsea, but I got a lump in the throat from Lampard's celebration after the penalty.
  110. avatar kingmob
    Fair play to him for playing and having the balls to take that penalty but some of the reports and scores of his performance last night were hilarious. He was missing for the entire second half and still deserves a nine???
  111. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:c3f71727e0="kingmob"]Fair play to him for playing and having the balls to take that penalty but some of the reports and scores of his performance last night were hilarious. He was missing for the entire second half and still deserves a nine???[/quote:c3f71727e0]

    He didn't have a great game, but compared to players like Gerrard and Mascherano, relatively he did play a 9.
  112. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    It was a great match, and my only consolation it that I now won't have a mental breakdown come May 21st.

    I think Xabi Alonso's career at Liverpool has now run it's course. Cash in this summer if possible
  113. avatar kingmob
    I think if we replaced him with Iniesta I would be extremely happy.

    I didn't think he did particularly badly last night but it just seems increasingly likely that he'll never reclaim the form of his early days. A shame cos he's a lovely player to watch when on form.

    I'm liking the increasing amount of Masch's bursts towards the penalty area. Can we make him captain please Rafa? kthxbye.
  114. avatar David McLaughlin
    Still pretty gutted today. That was a great match though, despite coming out on the losing end.

    Chelsea were there for the taking once Torres hit the equaliser but we didn't have it in us. Drogba looked like he could score at will in comparison.

    Avram Grant falling over then fixing his hair was hilarious. On his knees at the end too. I'm really starting to like him as a character.

    Lampard's penno took a lot of balls, so fair play but aside from that he was as anonymous as most of the 'Pool midfield. Gerard didn't show up really, probably worried about the booking hanging over him.

    Small consolation but we've been involved in the best games in the CL this year and fought hard. In contrast, United have had a pretty painless route to the final. If that sounds bitter, it's because I am. :cry:

    Come May 21, for one night only, I'm a Chelski fan.
  115. avatar zep
    My favourite Mascherano moment last night was when he 'saved' a potential Chelsea throw-in by booting the ball twenty-odd yards for a corner instead.

    Good game, crap result, good to see Babel making Cech look silly. Dunno if I could have hacked the tension of a Utd-Pool final, I know a lot of United fans who were saying the same.
  116. avatar gtm
    Won't some think of the Forest fans? To avoid play-offs and gain automatic promotion we have to beat Yeovil on Saturday and hope Cheltenham take points off Doncaster. Oh yes, and hope that dirty Leeds don't get 15 points back later today!
  117. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    I'm just looking forward to sitting back and watching both sets of fans get battered by the police in Moscow.

    Yet both sets will still blame liverpool fans. :-D
  118. avatar RockShandy
    Iniesta couldn't replace Alonso. Different sorts of players. Both overrated. :)
  119. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    [img:9ef3f23b4b]http://i31.tinypic.com/rk58b7.jpg[/img:9ef3f23b4b]
  120. avatar Gogs
    One of the replays was from a better angle than that and it was even funnier. :D
  121. avatar ShowYourBones
    Extremely f**ked off by last night's performance. Xabi, Gerrard (practically anonymous) and Masch were not at their best by any stretch of the imagination. I cant even pick out a player in red who stepped up to the mark.

    If only we had of went for it after the equaliser, Babel should have been introduced at that point.

    As for the comments surrounding Alonso, I felt he rediscovered some of the qualities that made him such a great player of late. However he attempted too many 'Hollywood' passes last night and on one or two occcasions he tried to pick out Benayoun with said passes, Essien/Carvalho quite rightly cleaned up.

    I'd like to see a new right/left sided winger (depending on where Rafa (if he's still there) puts Babel), a left back and possibly a new recruit up front. Although the possibility of drafting in Insua and Nemeth may save those Yanks a few quid.

    I also on the 21st May will be a Chelsea fan. Wont be too many prawn sandwiches in Moscow.
  122. avatar rigsyATL
    [quote:8b29eac0dd]Wont be too many prawn sandwiches in Moscow.[/quote:8b29eac0dd]

    but you'd prefer to support RentaClub FC - a team who literally try and buy an atmosphere by giving away free flags?!
  123. avatar whipchorus
    C'mon Coleraine this Saturday. Pity about the Portadown situation, that place in the middle where common sense and the IFA showing a backbone indeed must meet.
  124. avatar RockShandy
    If they allow Portadown to enter the new league, they're starting off a new era by being as unprofessional as ever.
  125. avatar mcstick
    I couldn't agree more. As harsh as it may seem to the ports, I don't see that the IFA had any other option. Hopefully this will act as a wake up call to local football. No more messing about, professionalism is required.
    Btw rigsy, chelsea aren't the 1st to try generating an atmosphere by handing out free stuff. Utd did it at the last ot derby and city did it the year before.
  126. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:feeba22cbb="mcstick"]I couldn't agree more. As harsh as it may seem to the ports, I don't see that the IFA had any other option. Hopefully this will act as a wake up call to local football. No more messing about, professionalism is required.
    Btw rigsy, chelsea aren't the 1st to try generating an atmosphere by handing out free stuff. Utd did it at the last ot derby and city did it the year before.[/quote:feeba22cbb]

    I smell a City fan. :shock:
  127. avatar ShowYourBones
    [quote:212d6b4b9f="rigsyATL"]
    but you'd prefer to support RentaClub FC - a team who literally try and buy an atmosphere by giving away free flags?![/quote:212d6b4b9f]
    Didnt the Mancs not do that on Tues night also? 'Believe' spelt out on the terraces with red and silver sheets.
  128. avatar bernard
    no, that was just one massive coincidence

    couldnt give a knucklefuck who wins the tin now
    gutted
  129. avatar mcstick
    [quote:8e599606f6="RockShandy"]I smell a City fan. :shock:[/quote:8e599606f6]

    And?
  130. avatar gtm
    Aye but credit to Rangers for providing a practical demonstration of 'Protestant Work Ethic'. Worst game of football ever, but what a fine result.
  131. avatar Franky Van Der Elst
    V. pleased for Walter Smith given how he came so close to a CL final in his first spell with the club. Well done the Gers.
  132. avatar zep
    Worst game of football is about right! Thought the referee was overly strict, Cousins obviously had a funny moment though.
  133. avatar RabbBennett
    go and find some football fucking site to winge about how your fucking team played, IS THIS FORUM NOT ABOUT MUSIC?
  134. avatar kingmob
    It's ONE football thread. I'm sure you can bring yourself to ignore it :roll:
  135. avatar RabbBennett
    I could just ignore it,but why is it on here,is there not some where, where people interested in football, can go to whinge about their team? other than a site set up for the music scene in Ireland?......
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  136. avatar George W Best
    Music scene in NORTHERN Ireland actually :P
  137. avatar ShowYourBones
    [quote:9f11edddb6="RabbBennett"]can go to whinge about there team? [/quote:9f11edddb6]
    Rabb, how about you toodle off to a Grammar forum, I'm sure there will be quite a few folk interested to see your splendid grasp of the English language. :-D
  138. avatar RabbBennett
    I did everything that spell check told me to do :oops: tally hoe
  139. avatar mcstick
    Here rabb, dry your fucking eyes you precious cunt.
  140. avatar RabbBennett
    :lol:
  141. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    Rabb, I take it your new around here. Well let me agree entirely with that chap McStick.

    If you don't like it c##ty chops then don't post on here.
  142. avatar RabbBennett
    [quote:87bdeeeb63="dirty stevie smitty"]Rabb, I take it your new around here. Well let me agree entirely with that chap McStick.

    If you don't like it c##ty chops then don't post on here.[/quote:87bdeeeb63]

    that's me told....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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  143. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    OK Everybody, stop posting!

    We're all heading over to Rabb's forum to talk about what Rabb wants to talk about.

    No more talk of football, no more talk of rangers playing anti-football, certainly no mention of their fans singing pleasant ditties about a famine in a foreign country and definitely no mention of unfortunate hand signals:

    [img:6829f70d96]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44619000/jpg/_44619292_fans_sns416.jpg[/img:6829f70d96]

    [size=9:6829f70d96]I know it's either entirely innocent or deliberate but it pleases me[/size:6829f70d96]

    Rabb's going to save us all, all hail Rabb.

    [quote:6829f70d96="fastfude"]Fair enough. Sent word throughout the land, the is The Football Thread (tm).[/quote:6829f70d96]

    </EDIT>I love how pissed off Rabb managed to get before 8.00 this morning, I would love to be able to muster that level of intensity at any time of the day, never mind in the middle of the night!
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  144. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [quote:59eca6e68f="George W Best"]Music scene in NORTHERN Ireland actually :P[/quote:59eca6e68f]


    Not necessarily
  145. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:5cac988d00="Mickeycolensoparade"][quote:5cac988d00="George W Best"]Music scene in NORTHERN Ireland actually :P[/quote:5cac988d00]


    Not necessarily[/quote:5cac988d00]

    [quote:5cac988d00]Fastfude | Northern Ireland's Music Scene[/quote:5cac988d00]


    :o
  146. avatar gtm
    Edit: too frustrating to get into again.
  147. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    oh will all you loyal sons of Ulster and Ireland's last hopes, let it f##kin rest.
  148. avatar Damn Pest
    crap chrissy morrow broke his leg, andy hunter is transferred listed and we signed black from larne

    just mundane news from the crues, if your a non fan but essential if you just love hanging around with your mates on a saturday at the irish league

    everyone else just have a wank and be a waster between 3-5
  149. avatar The enfant terrible
    Anyone on this forum ever had a go at writing football chants? Or a duff anthem in the style of Embrace - World at Your Feet, or the one with Ocean Colour Scene and The Spice Girls? It'd be worth a go, personally I think football is a sport for queers, but to each his own.
  150. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote:bd482d13b8="RabbBennett"]I could just ignore it,but why is it on here,is there not some where, where people interested in football, can go to whinge about their team? other than a site set up for the music scene in Ireland?......[/quote:bd482d13b8]

    Do you write songs about writing songs that end with the line: "and now I've just written a song."

    Sung with Rod, Jane and Freddy style enthusiasm.
  151. avatar Franky Van Der Elst
    [quote:a015371e97="The enfant terrible"] personally I think football is a sport for queers, but to each his own.[/quote:a015371e97]

    LOL
  152. avatar RabbBennett
    [quote:c2ccd5e387="The enfant terrible"][quote:c2ccd5e387="RabbBennett"]I could just ignore it,but why is it on here,is there not some where, where people interested in football, can go to whinge about their team? other than a site set up for the music scene in Ireland?......[/quote:c2ccd5e387]

    Do you write songs about writing songs that end with the line: "and now I've just written a song."

    Sung with Rod, Jane and Freddy style enthusiasm.[/quote:c2ccd5e387]

    Nah......but if we can get the guy who came up with the Steven Nolan chant that the blues fans are raving to,(maybe have to look on a football forum,or somthing for him) put a post up on a local music forum :wink: looking for band members to play songs in aRod, Jane and Freddy style, maybe throw a bit of Zappa,Phish Flaming Lips and Pat Boone into the mix, even a bit of Chemical Brothers and get a grant of N.I.M.I.C , record it in the OH-Yeah building and release it under Good Vibrations Label.......it could just work........sorry everybody who called me a cunt....football does have a place on here :lol: .......anyone play Golf
  153. avatar George W Best
    [url]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RKnL54cBjbA[/url]
  154. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    Watercress couldn't be described as music and I've seen people talk about them on here.
  155. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [quote:2f0408e591="RockShandy"][quote:2f0408e591="Mickeycolensoparade"][quote:2f0408e591="George W Best"]Music scene in NORTHERN Ireland actually :P[/quote:2f0408e591]


    Not necessarily[/quote:2f0408e591]

    [quote:2f0408e591]Fastfude | Northern Ireland's Music Scene[/quote:2f0408e591]


    :o[/quote:2f0408e591]


    I just meant it's used by bands up in down the place, and the gigs section always has gigs from all round the shop. Nothing more!
  156. avatar RabbBennett
    [quote:35837a4d52="dirty stevie smitty"]Watercress couldn't be described as music and I've seen people talk about them on here.[/quote:35837a4d52]

    :roll:
  157. avatar tinpot anto
    Anyway, up the snooker, real (smoking, farting, drinking) man's sport.

    O'Sullivan was god like in the semi final.
  158. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    1990: Liverpool 18 Man Utd 7

    1993: Liverpool 18 Man Utd 8

    1994 Liverpool 18 Man Utd 9

    1996 Liverpool 18 Man Utd 10

    1997 Liverpool 18 Man Utd 11

    1999 Liverpool 18 Man Utd 12

    2000 Liverpool 18 Man Utd 13

    2001 Liverpool 18 Man Utd 14

    2004 Liverpool 18 Man Utd 15

    2007 Liverpool 18 Man Utd 16

    2008 Liverpool 18 Man Utd 17


    Your quickly running out of excuses, you murdering Scouse b#####ds. God bless Tom Hicks and George Gillett. :lol:
  159. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    John O'Shea proved pivotal in the celebrations
  160. avatar RockShandy
    Ahahah, Portadown. Get it slapped up yee. :lol:
  161. avatar Bobphoenix
    Awful lot of Rangers supporters out in the streets of Manchester tonight...A good Catholic boy like me could get lynched!
  162. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    jesus, i near took a buckle in my eye when i seen this on football365. Babel's face! :lol:

    [img:70bc483c0e]http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/grizzk/f_lfczoolandem_f1b82a6.gif[/img:70bc483c0e]

    [i:70bc483c0e]Liverpool players after winning next years league title, yesterday.[/i:70bc483c0e]

    :lol:
  163. avatar David McLaughlin
    :lol:

    That's one of the best things I've ever seen on the internets ever. Whoever took the time to make that deserves a kiss.

    Next year, will be our year of course. :oops:


    p.s. can this thread go back to just being 'Big Super Duper football chit chat' like before instead of 'Seventeen'?
  164. avatar T Entertainment
    So who are yiz backing tonight? Huns or russkies?
  165. avatar Niall Harden
    i'm backing the racists.
    er, i mean Zenit.
  166. avatar ConorKane
    It's hard to call. Zenit have scored almost three times as many goals as Rangers throughout the tournament. I think Zenit will do it though.
  167. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    I think if Rangers still have enough in the tank, their brand of anti-football may just grind out a result.

    The last few days have been footballing heaven for me, United win the league, and Portadown and Donegal Celtic both get chucked out of the new Irish League Premier Division. Beautiful.
  168. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    and in a sign of humanity towards Mr McLauglin and his fellow dippers, the original thread title has come back.
  169. avatar blonderedhead
    White Power!!!!

    [size=8:2c33805a02]in reference to the colour of their kit... of course[/size:2c33805a02]
  170. avatar Niall Harden
    actually, having read up a bit on Zenit, they sound even more deplorable than Rangers.
    so i hope they both lose.

    i liked the guardian's football podcast, where they suggested that both teams will simply sit and stare at the ball.
  171. avatar ShowYourBones
    Zenit for sure. It wont be a classic, these things never are (a footballing cliche if I ever read one). Rangers will employ their 5 in midfield and D'ville up front, try and hit Zenit on the counter, but I think they will just have to much for the Gers, I hear their top scorer aint playing, that could be Walter Smith's only saving grace tonight.
  172. avatar kagura
    im going with zenit. they'll be slightly held up by pogrebnyak not playing, but i reckon they'll still pull it off. can't see rangers having the energy or attacking drive to give them a run.

    then again, it *is* a cup final so in that respect it's anybodys guess.

    still zenit though :P
  173. avatar blonderedhead
    Football 2 : 0 Rangers

    Jez Rangers were abysmal, thank god they got beat
  174. avatar George W Best
    I liked the way rangers played with eleven men behind the ball up until the other team scored and they they played with [i:4b23e4b98c]eleven [/i:4b23e4b98c]men behind the ball as if to say, we REFUSE to score any goals in this competition.
  175. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    Still, the news that Tommy Burns has died may cheer up some of Rangers' more, er, passionate fans.

    [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7402185.stm[/url]

    sad.
  176. avatar gtm
    From The Guardian:

    "Yesterday afternoon in Harvey Nichols' bar and restaurant a quartet of Zenit fans were peeling off £20 notes from a thick wad of cash. Their lunch, washed down by cognac, had cost £198. They estimated the trip was going to cost them £8,000."
  177. avatar toolrocket
    cctv footage from manchester last night

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F965rbxetrw[/url]

    about 47 seconds in, watch the rangers fans help the rozzer to his feet, gentlemanly conduct indeed
  178. avatar gtm
    I heard that the next time Toolrocket goes to see City he's bringing some holy water with him to douse on the City of Manchester turf.

    There's a good video doing the rounds where 'Adam 11' throws a glass bottle at some technicians and a guy in a sparkly cowboy hat comes over and decks him.
  179. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    I liked the fans comments on UTV Live there

    to the effect of

    "Aye but what can you expect, the Big Screen stopped working"

    and

    "The police were dead on til the rioting started, then became a bit heavy handed"

    etc

    DICKS!
  180. avatar gavinearly
    I love the rationale of going to Manchester without a ticket then wrecking the place because the hospitality laid on for them fell flat on its face. In all fairness Manchester Council didnt do a great job of organising it - but why should they facilitate fans that didnt have tickets.

    I wasn't working in the city centre that day but I've heard quite a few stories from my colleagues about the goings on in the afternoon.
  181. avatar JTM
    I've probably asked this before but is there anywhere in town worth going to watch the FA Cup? I know I'll probably end up in Auntie Annie's or Laverys but is there anywhere else good?
  182. avatar clss_act_00
    [quote:023847cdf7="gavinearly"]In all fairness Manchester Council didnt do a great job of organising it - but why should they facilitate fans that didnt have tickets. [/quote:023847cdf7] Heard a few people say this, but it's for the same reason that they bother getting the uefa cup final hosted there. Its all a case of boosting the profile of the city. Same as the olympics being in London (but obviously on a much smaller scale.

    But yeah, some of the rangers fans have been typical drunken idiots. Theres always a few for every traveling football team, why are we surprised?
  183. avatar gavinearly
    Agree.

    Whilst the behaviour of their fans was completely inexcusable, I don't think Manchester Council did the City's profile any favours either.

    From what I heard there was trouble brewing long before the screen failed.
  184. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    I've 2 tickets for Wednesday's night's Champions League Final available at cost price £75 each. PM me if anyone is interested.
  185. avatar The enfant terrible
    Is anyone else gutted Carlisle didn't get promoted?
  186. avatar bottleofsmoke
    Carlisle never turned up on thurs night. Sad to see, after a superb performance at elland road. Can't believe that shower of c**ts leeds have made the playoff final. Prey god they don't go up.
  187. avatar The enfant terrible
    Totally agree. It's great to see how carlisle have been doing over the past few years, they were awful when i lived there and were always struggling to avoid the conference. It's great to see how they've risen.
  188. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    Right United come on and turn over these Russian b#####ds.

    We've only won it twice, but never murdered anyone.
  189. avatar the*optimist
    There's a John O'Shea tattoo to be had tonight if he scores the winner, mon sheasy!
  190. avatar ShowYourBones
    [quote:cacb1494c7="dirty stevie smitty"]
    We've only won it twice, but never murdered anyone.[/quote:cacb1494c7]
    That's cos you can't beat someone round the head with a prawn sandwich.

    Edit: Well I suppose one can but f**k ye's.
  191. avatar goatboy
    I'm gutted I'm going to miss most of the match this evening. I shall be watching Feeder play instead.
  192. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    We didn't deserve to win it, but thank god for Nemanja Vidic, and the racist tw@t that is known as John Terry.


    MUFC: Kings of Europe. 2008
  193. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    Manchester United Football Club: 3 times and we've never murdered anyone.

    Slap it up you scouse f##kwits.
  194. avatar aaronrossi
    Sweet baby Jebus!

    Thank fuuck for John Terry and his excuse for a sh1te penalty!

    United are back where they belong! On top of Europe!
  195. avatar Niall Harden
    in a house full of neutrals (villa, misery, don't-care-about-football x2) there was pretty much unbridled joy tonight.

    couldn't have asked for much more: penos meant united can hardly bang on about how great they were, ronaldo missing his was beautiful, and still the great satan come away with no trophies. eyo!

    cheer up lads:

    [img:7263a42645]http://www.chelseafc.com/javaImages/25/12/0,,10268~3674661,00.jpg[/img:7263a42645]
  196. avatar PaulATL
    smitty your mathematics are troubling you again, as 3 is a lesser number in most scientific studies than 5
  197. avatar George W Best
    Hats off too to Clive Tyldesley for managing to commentate for the full 90 minutes plus extra time with Sir Alex Fergusson's cock wedged firmly in his mouth. No small feat! (Although for most of the match he did seem to think he was commentating on the 1999 final for some reason).
  198. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    Paul, we're rapidy closing in on the 2 things Liverpool FC hold dear the most.

    Apart from that night in Istanbul, for which even I had to salute you, Liverpool have done sweet FA since 1990.

    Time is running out and you clearly know it.


    68, 99, 08.

    3 times and we've never murdered anyone.
  199. avatar ShowYourBones
    Where was Drogba? Coward of a man, didnt step up to the mark at all and Vidic/Ferdinand were more than comfortable marking him.

    The scene outside the Bot(I was merely driving past) was of total carnage, Man U scum boxing with Chelski scum, oh how I laughed.
  200. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    The scenes in the Pavillion were of complete europhia. The place went ballistic, I've never seen a Belfast bar like it in my life.
  201. avatar RockShandy
    The main problem at the Bot was that they wanted us out quickly because Wednesday is their club night and decided to do that by announcing for everyone to leave via the nearest exit asap. The front door got stupidly crowded as the footie fans were forced out and simply couldn't fit or move, seeing as there is a small area to spill out into and the small matter of a busy road. The police decided to take matters into their own hands and waded into the crowd and I saw a few people trailed by the head for daring to do such crazy things as be stuck in a crowd, unable to pass through other people. I managed to get out and away before too much happened, but a couple of peelers were spoiling for a fight.
  202. avatar thesacredhearts
    [quote:7a8a4ce064]The police decided to take matters into their own hands[/quote:7a8a4ce064]

    Umm...[/quote]
  203. avatar George W Best
    The police were battering Man U and Chelsea fans? I knew there was a reason I pay my taxes :wink:
  204. avatar pauldoherty
    Man U didnt deserve that last night,they were good in the first half but died a death for the rest of the match.Chelsea were unlucky not to win
  205. avatar mcstick
    The irony of a troop of "loyal diehards" having a punch up a couple of thousand miles away from the scene of the contest is almost too obvious to point out.
  206. avatar Niall Harden
    is it? which part of it is ironic?

    from kingsley amis:
    [i:5f911a0a0d]Recently all seriousness seems to have departed from the word. The slightest and most banal coincidence or point of resemblance or just-perceptible absence of one, unworthy of a single grunt of interest, gets called ironic.[/i:5f911a0a0d]
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  207. avatar the dirty weed
    i think we can conclude that was a great game but nearly everyone involved was a prick.

    drogba
    terry gobbing on tevez (anyone else see this?)
    ferdinand nearly decapitating joe cole
    the ref / linesman giving countless throw ins / goalkicks to united that should've went the other way.
    ronaldo's penalty
    malouda's diving

    etc
  208. avatar George W Best
    [quote:0a8ce8799f="Niall Harden"]is it? which part of it is ironic?[/quote:0a8ce8799f]

    He didn't say it was ironic, he said there was an irony in it which there was.
  209. avatar Niall Harden
    nah, there wasn't.

    i missed the spitting, it sounds exciting. ferdinand's challenge was completely insane and surely a penalty. hah. i liked how cross joe cole got at those corners wot he should've had.

    we had sky on in one room and itv on in another; it was interesting to hear how different the two commentaries were. rio's near-own goal was van der sar's fault on one channel and rio's on the other; and many of those disputed decisions were "obviously" this or that, but they often couldn't agree which.
    shows what a bloody pointless racket it all is.
  210. avatar the dirty weed
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=DYiBJc8NaWI 25 seconds

    terry pretends to wipe his face with his sleeve but fires a nostril load of snatters at tevez. you can see tevez wipe it off his neck.
    skilfully done, you have to admit!
  211. avatar mcstick
    Aye, there was.
  212. avatar Daithi jasper
    Aye saw that, just as the commentator was saying, 'John Terry, attempting to calm his team down' :)

    And no to the irony claim as well. :)
  213. avatar donkeymagician
    [quote:5ce8bd9553]Man U didnt deserve that last night,they were good in the first half but died a death for the rest of the match.Chelsea were unlucky not to win[/quote:5ce8bd9553]

    BOLLOCKS!! It should have been 3-0 at half time and anyone who says otherwise needs shot. Man U controlled the first half and had a few 5min spells of dominance in the 2nd...so they controlled MORE of the game and deserved to win. For most of the game chelsea got the ball, dinked it to drogba and then lost it....there useless...

    a happy scene for me was watching ballack in tears at the end :lol: :lol: :lol: [/quote]
  214. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    From the football 365 forum:

    ...If ever more evidence was needed that justice was served in Moscow last night, look no further than the two men who led their respective teams to collect their medals. Manchester United had Sir Bobby Charlton, a man symbolising the legacy of the club - Munich survivor, European Cup Winner, World Cup Winner, and a man too humble to accept a medal, acknowledging that he hadn't done anything to deserve one this time round.

    Contrast this with the man who led Chelsea up there, the odious Peter Kenyon, someone who, like Chelsea, represents everything the game has become - mercenary, sleazy and disloyal - and of course, he can't wait to get his medal, in spite of his overall contribution of approximately f**k all to their Champions' League campaign.

    This was a victory for football, even if there was little to separate the two teams on this particular night.

    On a personal note, I was quite surprised to realize just how much I hate John Terry. I could drink pint after pint of that goblin faced c*nt's tears.
  215. avatar tinpot anto
    this is why football bores the diddies off me.
  216. avatar Niall Harden
    and that's why you bore the diddies off me ;)
  217. avatar David McLaughlin
    United were very lucky. Crossbar, post, stonewall penalties not given, general officiating madness...

    Still glad to see the two biggest pricks on the pitch fail at penalties. I didn't spot the JT spitting thing. Skillfully done indeed!
  218. avatar mcstick
    Perhaps a definition of irony might assist on this minor concern: "An incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs."

    Aside from that, I couldn't give a fuck what Kingsley Amis had to say about it or any other matter.
  219. avatar ShowYourBones
    United dominated the first half, they had so much space on the flanks it was bordering on the obsurd. Essien looked very ordinary at right back and Hargreaves had Cole pinned back for the majority of the first 45.

    However I have to say Chelsea did what Chelsea do, grind out a performance and they seemed to build on that in the second half. Lampard began to get forward more and looked a threat, disappointed in Ballack though.

    But what the f**k was Drogba thinking, right under the refs nose, madness. Although to be fair, he was Chelsea's worst player, a lazy performance and as I said before Vidic/Ferdinand lapped that up.
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  220. avatar 10rapid
    well it's probably expected that a load of football fans get beered up and have an argy bargy, no matter how many miles they are from the actual event.
    the implication that they are less than true fans because they weren't in moscow is a bit much?

    But then i know the cut of your jib mcstick....
  221. avatar ShowYourBones
    [quote:fb7d9b51d1="mcstick"]Perhaps a definition of irony might assist on this minor concern: "An incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs."
    [/quote:fb7d9b51d1]
    So you expect every diehard fan to attend a final, thousands of miles away costing a small fortune?

    You related to Abramovich?
  222. avatar rigsyATL
    united were very lucky, my hoop!

    they had the best chances in the game. yes chelsea's big chances may be more memorable cause they hit the post twice, but united came agonizingly close on 3/4 occasions. also united could have and should have been 2-0 by half time, which would have been game over.

    even if they *were* lucky, they still deserved to win that tournament anyway, by some distance. unbeaten throughout qnd champions of their own league.

    justice was done.

    ha ha at drogba
    ho ho ho at terry's slip
    hee hee at everyone laughing at ronaldo, only to see him lift the trophy

    and a proper LOL at being reminded of

    'Cliftonville's small squad (copyright Rigsy, Dec 07) are proving to be nothing short of being bloody marvellous, last minute winners, epic cup matches, the ability to hang in there when all around think you can't last.'

    at the start of this thread ;-)

    although granted, thats slightly off topic.
  223. avatar RockShandy
    What about DC and the green card they're playing? Bad craic.
  224. avatar nonlogic liam
    Manchester United are a pile of wanke-rs. As is everyone else involved, in any way, with football. Go read a book you mass of degenerates...
  225. avatar 10rapid
    indeed.

    [img:1f57315554]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Rotr-annual.JPG[/img:1f57315554]
  226. avatar ShowYourBones
    Just read in the Mirror (rag) that Ballack was Chelsea's MOM? One word....WHAT?
  227. avatar mcstick
    Of course I don't expect them all to travel that far. Having said that, I'd say it's a fair bet that the majority of those involved could count the amount of times they've attended an actual game on the fingers of 1 hand and, therefore, are not to be taken seriously.
  228. avatar RudeMood
    This was on the MetalIreland forum last night. Didn't take long!

    [img:b4066b32a2]http://i32.tinypic.com/2s9f2ir.jpg[/img:b4066b32a2]
  229. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    United deserved to win, Carrick and Hargo (my new nickname hor him) were the two best players on the pitch and United should've been 3-0 up at half time. Granted their backs were against the wall for a long period in the second half but its Chelsea like, it was hardly going to be a breeze, and they came back in extra time again! It was sort've obvious Ronaldo was going to miss the penalty, but at least the whingers can't say he didn't step up to the challenge in the big came, he was outstanding all night, roasting Chelsea on the wing. I was informed that growing up John Terry was a United fan, can anyone clarify?
  230. avatar mcstick
    John Terry was a utd fan as a kid. I disagree with your assessment of ronaldo's performance. For me, he was ineffective after half time.
  231. avatar 10rapid
    As a recent convert to soccerball, with no real legacy of supporting a particular team (my childhood allegience swayed between everton, liverpool, and for one season Nottingham Forest, due to an ill advised birthday present form a well meaning aunt) I must say I was supporting Chelsea last night. I actually like Avram Grant...he seems dignified and restrained in taking on the impossible task of following jose. But Abromovich is a farce. As is the man city chairman, ditching managers after successful seasons and even more ridiculous after city got into europe (albeit by a back door). So maybe this is why people dislike chelsea. I felt sorry for oul fat frankie lampard and also for grant...especially after seeing him barged into the dugout by steven "king spide" gerard in the semi.

    I dunno. shoot me.
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  232. avatar comprachio
    If Utd should've had 3 in the first half then Chelsea should definitely had 3 in the second.

    [quote:fcd6d69dd6]also united could have and should have been 2-0 by half time, which would have been game over.[/quote:fcd6d69dd6]

    Aye Rigsy, cos no team has ever come back from being 2-0, or even 3-0 down at half time in a CL final;)

    Don't think there was a clearcut 'deserved winner' so a penalty shoot-out was fine by me.

    Here Rog, I seriously object to the name of 'the football thread' on fastfude! If its a football thread that should be it's name... :smt064
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  233. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:971809fa52]Of course I don't expect them all to travel that far. Having said that, I'd say it's a fair bet that the majority of those involved could count the amount of times they've attended an actual game on the fingers of 1 hand and, therefore, are not to be taken seriously.[/quote:971809fa52]

    Why does it matter if you go to matches or not? Given the price of football now, are you saying football is only for the middle class?
  234. avatar mcstick
    I go to football matches every week in the season and I can assure you that the majority of the people around me at the games would definitely not be described as middle class!
  235. avatar mcstick
    I go to football matches every week in the season and I can assure you that the majority of the people around me at the games would definitely not be described as middle class!
  236. avatar comprachio
    I've NEVER seen Nirvana, Pavement, Sufjan Stevens and a whole host of other bands live. Does that mean I'm not entitled to call myself a fan of those bands or make any comment about them?

    I fucking hate the 'I go to games' snobbery among football fans.
  237. avatar 10rapid
    I have a season ticket for the desert hearts.
  238. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:6494d2ac39]I go to football matches every week in the season and I can assure you that the majority of the people around me at the games would definitely not be described as middle class[/quote:6494d2ac39]

    Ok then, let me rephrase that question.

    If you aren't in the situation, financially or due to family or time commitments, to be able to attend a football team, are you not allowed to be a fan of that club?
  239. avatar Chi-Lite
    i enjoy an oul football match, but i don't really understand "supporting a team"

    Why would you support a team for your whole life? Is it just to make watching to game more interesting, as you have someone to cheer on?

    I mean, you don't support a football team for the quality of the players, or manager, as these change all the time, well, sometimes anyway.

    Do you support a team because of an affinity for where they're from? Most Man U players and managers aren't from manchester.

    Is there some sort of affinity with the "culture" of a particular team? Do teams have "cultures"?

    Someobody explain it to me. Is it just that, once you have supported a particular team for a while, you're accustomed to doing so.

    I don't get it.
  240. avatar RockShandy
    If you're a true fan, you don't pick your football team. It picks you. You just know it's who you support, imo.

    If you don't get what football means to some people, there's no way to explain it.
  241. avatar mcstick
    I agree with you if that is the case. I do, though, find it puzzling when people go on about being big football fans but make no effort whatsoever to go to any game of any description. It doesn't add up. It seems to me that, if someone can afford to go to their local pub every week to "cheer on" their team whilst drinking all day, they could probably afford to go to the odd game.
  242. avatar 10rapid
    The way I see it, most people I know inherited their team from parents/siblings...eg "my da supported utd so I do too" or from some childhood experience... eg "i went on holiday to liverpool when i was 4 and we saw anfield...i was hooked" or the initial allegiance to a player rather than a team "I loved george best/david beckham/ronaldo" so I support United.

    It leaves the casual observer such as myself in a dilemma.

    I have no brothers, My da didn't watch football and as a kid I went on holidays to the isle of man. They don't have much of a team.
    So it's hard to get a team to follow.
    You caan't pick one of the "big 4" or you get accused of glory hunting and it's hard to get one of the rest coss they mostly wallow in mediocrity.

    my advice...apply indie elitist credentials to sport. find some no hoper 1st division team taht nobody likes, declare support and when they ascend to the lofty heights of the premiership, disown them because they're too popular and start again from scratch.
  243. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:e90ade7327="mcstick"]I agree with you if that is the case. I do, though, find it puzzling when people go on about being big football fans but make no effort whatsoever to go to any game of any description. It doesn't add up. It seems to me that, if someone can afford to go to their local pub every week to "cheer on" their team whilst drinking all day, they could probably afford to go to the odd game.[/quote:e90ade7327]

    In the case of Man Utd, it can be difficult to get tickets if you aren't involved with a supporters club or have the cash to fork out for a season ticket. Add in flights and accomodation on match days being very expensive, plus Sky jiggering the fixtures about so you can't book early. It all adds up.
  244. avatar Lee1981
    Champions again! Alls i can say is Sir Alex Ferguson is a god! I mean what other managers have done what he has achieved. Unbelievable!
  245. avatar mcstick
    Bullshit. Take it from one who knows. It is not that difficult to get tickets for manchester united games if you really want them.
    Even so, if you were that into football wouldn't you consider going to watch a team closer to home?
  246. avatar Chi-Lite
    But why would you get so excited.

    "I f[b:b18e6d0e60][/b:b18e6d0e60]ucking love that team...because George Best played for them 40 years ago, and I once went on holiday to Manchester"...

    But you're right like. i used to support Man U, for example, mainly because my da supported them. i suspect that's probably what happens most people.

    But then one day i just thought, what reason have i to wish success on this team rather than on any other?

    I don't understand.

    I think the rational thing would be to change allegiance, depending on who's playing well at any given time. that way you're appreciating the skill involved, rather than just liking a team for some mad nostalgic reasons.

    But that's not on, sure it's not?

    I don't understand why though.

    Someone explain it.
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  247. avatar 10rapid
    well i think the only rational reason (if it even is rational) is geographical.
    I support glentoran as i'm from east belfast/cliftonville as i'm from north belfast etc.

    ssupporting english teams when we live in norn iron iss more abstract beast altogether.
  248. avatar David McLaughlin
    [quote:ab92099f21]Someone explain it.[/quote:ab92099f21]

    Why? If you don't get it, you won't get it. Why do you love particular sounds or foods or whatever?
  249. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:ca19bbcabe="mcstick"]<img src='http://www.fastfude.org/forums/images/smiles/019.gif' />. Take it from one who knows. It is not that difficult to get tickets for manchester united games if you really want them.
    Even so, if you were that into football wouldn't you consider going to watch a team closer to home?[/quote:ca19bbcabe]

    I also know what it is like to get tickets to see Man Utd, thanks very much.

    I do go to local football games and follow my local team but I don't feel anywhere near as passionately about them.
  250. avatar ShowYourBones
    But if one changes allegiance depending on who's playing well, they are branded a 'glory hunter' by friends/fans etc, t'is the footballing way I'm afraid.

    I personally chose to support Liverpool as my father supported them. I also found their play to be exciting and King Kenny was at the helm.

    Football fanaticism is a strange phenomonen to comprehend.
  251. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:15ca0b1948]Why? If you don't get it, you won't get it. Why do you love particular sounds or foods or whatever?[/quote:15ca0b1948]

    Ach but it's not as subjective as that, is it? Do people really like footballs teams because they give them a warm squidgy feeling inside that is unexplainable, and which only comes from one particular team. Taste buds are affections of the mind, and the effect can be either pleasurable or repulsive. How is this anything like supporting a football team? Do we really support football teams for totally irrational reasons that actually have nothing to do with the football that they play?

    I mean, I know there are geographical issues, but in what way does Glentoran actually [i:15ca0b1948]represent[/i:15ca0b1948] East Belfast, or Cliftonville North?

    Do they take all of their players from that area or something? that would make sense, in which case you would be supporting the local boys, thon boy from down the road. I don't watch many irish League fixtures, so i'm not sure, but i don't think [i:15ca0b1948]most[/i:15ca0b1948] Cliftonville players are from north Belfast...are they?

    So what is the reason for even supporting your perceived "local team"? Is it just because their ground is closer to your house?

    [quote:15ca0b1948]I personally chose to support Liverpool as my father supported them. I also found their play to be exciting and King Kenny was at the helm.[/quote:15ca0b1948]

    But Kenny's no longer at the helm, yet you still support them. Is it really just for reasons of nostalgia, because your da supported them?


    It's a strange animal alright, come on, somebody explain it. What do yous all reckon like? Don't be just happy not to think about it, sure have a wee ponder on it.

    And i know it is frowned upon to be "glory hunting", but surely if you appreciate teams that are playing well, that just shows that you are a fan of the playing of the game. When you just like a team, whether they're playing well or not, that seems to me like you do not like them purely because of their footballing ability, but for some other mad reason...

    What are these other reasons? It's curiouser and curiouser.
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  252. avatar voiceofthepeople
    Gary Imlach, who some of you might remember presenting the NFL on channel 4 back in the day, or covering the Tour de France for C4 and more recently ITV, wrote a great book about his father, who played for Nottingham Forest in the 1950s:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Father-Other-Working-Football-Heroes/dp/0224072684/

    It gives a real sense of how clubs did indeed once represent communities, although of course that has changed.

    Couldn't recommend it enough, along with The Miracle of Castel di Sangro they're the best football books I've ever read:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Miracle-Castel-Di-Sangro/dp/075152753X/

    (I haven't got round to The Damned United yet, but seeing as I'm a Forest fan who loved Brian Clough for all his many faults, I'm sure I'll love it).
  253. avatar RockShandy
    It just feels right. Simple as.
  254. avatar gtm
    'I mean, I know there are geographical issues, but in what way does Glentoran actually represent East Belfast, or Cliftonville North?'

    A sense of community cohesion in each area for a start.
  255. avatar David McLaughlin
    [quote:5d67e408b6]Ach but it's not as subjective as that, is it? Do people really like footballs teams because they give them a warm squidgy feeling inside that is unexplainable, and which only comes from one particular team?[/quote:5d67e408b6]

    Inadvertently, I think you've answered your own question there. That's exactly it.

    I feel sorry for football fans who don't support a team. I just don't see how you could still have the whole experience, the highs and lows etc.
  256. avatar gtm
    [quote:21d995b3be="voiceofthepeople"]Gary Imlach, who some of you might remember presenting the NFL on channel 4 back in the day, or covering the Tour de France for C4 and more recently ITV, wrote a great book about his father, who played for Nottingham Forest in the 1950s:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Father-Other-Working-Football-Heroes/dp/0224072684/

    It gives a real sense of how clubs did indeed once represent communities, although of course that has changed.

    Couldn't recommend it enough, along with The Miracle of Castel di Sangro they're the best football books I've ever read:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Miracle-Castel-Di-Sangro/dp/075152753X/

    (I haven't got round to The Damned United yet, but seeing as I'm a Forest fan who loved Brian Clough for all his many faults, I'm sure I'll love it).[/quote:21d995b3be]

    Another Forest fan! :D So KC is away to Derby. Let's hope we make some decent signings and have a real stab at the Championship next season.
  257. avatar Chi-Lite
    So it's not actually about football then?

    It's about;

    A) Valuing a sense of community cohesion;
    or
    B) Valuing some nice feeling in your belly that you somehow get from a football team.

    What's wrong with just being a fan of good football, no matter who plays it? that's the gist I'm getting at. Why is that so wrong, even frowned upon.

    And don't say, "because it doesn't feel right", because in that case you might as well say nothing. I'm not knocking your subjective love for a certain team, but surely it's about more than a subjective nice feeling that you get. Maybe it's not. But even so, where does this feeling come from?
    What's it all about, eh?

    EDIT: I do like the below though...maybe that really is it.
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  258. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    The agreement between all men is to follow football so that we (men) have something to talk about in any situation. Snub this agreement and you deserve to be disowned by your gender. So just pick a f*cking team and get on with the misery.
  259. avatar voiceofthepeople
    [quote:cd78fff582]Another Forest fan! So KC is away to Derby. Let's hope we make some decent signings and have a real stab at the Championship next season.

    [/quote:cd78fff582]

    I haven't read many of the details, but why he stuck with us for so long and then left when we went up - to Derby FFS - is beyond me. Rumours of not getting on with Calderwood, but then no-one seems to.

    If this year was anything to go by, the Championship is pretty weak, and the step up isn't as big a leap as from there to the Prem. If we sign Earnshaw then we have 3 people who can definitely get goals at that level.
  260. avatar ShowYourBones
    Chi-Lite I can appreciate good footballing teams, I am fond of the way Arsenal play under Wenger, the way United put 7 past a hapless Roma side at Old Trafford (albeit begrudgingly) etc etc.

    Most football fans started supporting their respective teams when they were little i.e. at an impressionable age. When Da said he supported Liverpool, I must have thought 'Hey I want to be just like him' and nailed my colours to the mast.

    Could be something as simple as that for alot of people.
  261. avatar gtm
    [quote:59e69ba7cf="voiceofthepeople"][quote:59e69ba7cf]Another Forest fan! So KC is away to Derby. Let's hope we make some decent signings and have a real stab at the Championship next season.

    [/quote:59e69ba7cf]

    I haven't read many of the details, but why he stuck with us for so long and then left when we went up - to Derby FFS - is beyond me. Rumours of not getting on with Calderwood, but then no-one seems to.

    If this year was anything to go by, the Championship is pretty weak, and the step up isn't as big a leap as from there to the Prem. If we sign Earnshaw then we have 3 people who can definitely get goals at that level.[/quote:59e69ba7cf]

    Yeah, I don't particularly like Earnshaw but if he can get the goals that mean we can compete I'll be happy. It's typical, when we were in League 1 I kept thinking I'd be happy for us to stay in the Championship for a bit and just get a few top-half finishes under our belt, but the euphoria that being at that Yeovil match brought led to all sorts of ridiculous thoughts. If Bristol City can linger round the top echelons of the CCC I don't see why we can't, with a few good signings.
  262. avatar gtm
    [quote:209e384550="ShowYourBones"]Chi-Lite I can appreciate good footballing teams, I am fond of the way Arsenal play under Wenger, the way United put 7 past a hapless Roma side at Old Trafford (albeit begrudgingly) etc etc.

    Most football fans started supporting their respective teams when they were little i.e. at an impressionable age. When Da said he supported Liverpool, I must have thought 'Hey I want to be just like him' and nailed my colours to the mast.

    Could be something as simple as that for alot of people.[/quote:209e384550]

    I wanted to be like Nigel Clough. Simple as that for me and Forest. Oh, and the fact that my brother supported them as well.
  263. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:86cb2fb202="ShowYourBones"]Chi-Lite I can appreciate good footballing teams, I am fond of the way Arsenal play under Wenger, the way United put 7 past a hapless Roma side at Old Trafford (albeit begrudgingly) etc etc.

    Most football fans started supporting their respective teams when they were little i.e. at an impressionable age. When Da said he supported Liverpool, I must have thought 'Hey I want to be just like him' and nailed my colours to the mast.

    Could be something as simple as that for alot of people.[/quote:86cb2fb202]

    I agree, I'm sure it does develop along those lines. I'm just wondering why such a thing can be so powerful throughout someone's entire life. I mean, usually when growing up our preferences and tastes are affected by loads of arbitrary things, like what our da likes, or your mates in school, but as we get older we begin to take a more independent, rational view of them things, develop our own tastes according to our own views and values.

    That doesn't seem to happen with football, People seem to stick with what they know. That's why it seems like it has more to do with nostalgia than the actual football.

    Evidenced in the fact that, although you appreciate good football, if it's played against "your team", you're not going to appreciate it so much, or you may even get annoyed at it. So that the value you attach to good football can be often over-ridden by some other value that you attach to some particular team.

    What is that value that you attach to some particular team, maybe because your da liked them or whatever...what kind of a value is it?

    It's a bit mad like, just.
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  264. avatar mcstick
    I wasn't talking about you specifically, rock shandy, but I'd suggest you attending local games would make you the exception. A glance at local attendance figures would prove that.

    Chilite, most of Cliftonville's regular 1st team would b from the local area.
  265. avatar Niall Harden
    there was a young chap called chi-lite
    whose fastfude posts were all shite.
    he ruins this board,
    and should be ignored
    but hey, at least he's polite.


    another, a terrbile prick,
    went by the name of mcstick.
    his misuse of [i:4c7071e1de]ironic[/i:4c7071e1de]
    is truly demonic,
    but hey, he might be alright because i've never met him, and it's not his fault that
    a) his username rhymes with "prick" and
    b) i'm pretty rubbish at writing limericks
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  266. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    Back to the match anyway, I suppose you're right Deci, Chelsea were the better team for most of the second half so I couldn't really say Utd should have been 3 up.

    Nemanja Vidic would throw himself at anything.
  267. avatar Chi-Lite
    Here, i'm only asking.

    What can I say, I have a healthy inquiring mind.

    :-D

    I managed to fall asleep during extra time last night, so should have no opnion on the actual match.

    I'm talking about "meta-football"

    :lol: :lol:

    No, ok, I'm just a w[b:fc13a92388][/b:fc13a92388]anker then. :P
  268. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    I started supporting United because me ould boy did, and he informed me he started supporting them because he wanted to be like his older brother. His older brother started supporting United because they were amazed by George Best, being a sort've local lawd as well helped.
  269. avatar George W Best
    Niall, is there anything ironic about someone making fun of someone else because their name sounds like prick when that person's own surname sound like hard on?
  270. avatar Niall Harden
    probably. except i didn't pick this name..
    but i did try to qualify it. i'm sorry. i don't even know what irony is, i just know what it isn't.

    where were we?
    oh aye, football. i support aston villa because when i was seven i saw david platt score that great goal against belgium in the world cup. they still seem like a decent bunch.
  271. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    My next door neighbour supports Villa, and when me and the ould boy go over to watch the match (bastard has sky sports) he purposely flicks the channels. We don't like him much.
  272. avatar 10rapid
    i suppose someone supporting a particular team is akin to chi-lite's championing of his religion. they all do the smae thing at the end of the day...some of them just do them differently
  273. avatar Chi-Lite
    No but there are reasons, ya see.

    Even though you don't agree with them, I would say that most people actually have reasons for their beliefs, which they could explain, if even in a rudimentary way, that you may not agree with.

    I'm just wondering what are the reasons for staying loyal to a football team. Is it just so as not to upset your da? I'm not suggesting that there is no reason, I think there must be. but I don't know what it is.

    You don't stay loyal to particular players, or managers, but to this thing called a team. what is it about a constantly changing [i:02e47a0905]team[/i:02e47a0905] that warrants loyalty? Does it even remain the same team after all of the players there when you started supporting them have left? Surely then it's another team? I understand why people begin to support a team, but why is that so unchanging?

    What constitutes a "team". What does Manchester United today have in common with Manchester United in the early 80s (Apart from Fergie like) that means you would still support them?

    These are all genuine questions that i'm curious about, so there's no need to all get tore into me for talking balls. They may seem like random questions, but I'm just curious. If you don't have some theory on it, don't bother making some tired oul joke or insult at my expense, eh fellas. :D

    I'm only [i:02e47a0905]wondering[/i:02e47a0905]

    Ah why why why why why, she went away...
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  274. avatar ryanego
    For once, I quite like where Chi Lite is going with this.
    Dare I say it, but it seems similar to the way in which the majority of people acquire their religious and moral beliefs.
    A little curiousity and self examination couldn't hurt.

    edit - looks like 10rapid beat me to it.
  275. avatar RockShandy
    If you ma got remarried, would yer da stop being your da?
  276. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    my little runaway, a run-run-run-a-runaway...
  277. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [quote:71e9b85027]What constitutes a "team". What does Manchester United today have in common with Manchester United in the early 80s (Apart from Fergie like) that means you would still support them?[/quote:71e9b85027]

    A team sort of grows and develops, they don't just change y'know? Like there's always a period of transition where say like new players are accomodated in, and soon they become part of the team with the senior players. Then the senior played get old and retire (or go into coaching with the club), but by that time the new players are established part of the club, and so the cycle continues.
  278. avatar Gogs
    someone want to explain the offside rule to him while we're at it?
  279. avatar Flatyre
    [img:ed1c1e2e19]http://www.pewter.it/400X400/0095401B.jpg[/img:ed1c1e2e19]

    As long as its not the MOTD boys.
  280. avatar The Grace Jones
    [quote:83ec1db877="Chi-Lite"]No but there are reasons, ya see.

    Even though you don't agree with them, I would say that most people actually have reasons for their beliefs, which they could explain, if even in a rudimentary way, that you may not agree with.

    I'm just wondering what are the reasons for staying loyal to a football team. Is it just so as not to upset your da? I'm not suggesting that there is no reason, I think there must be. but I don't know what it is.[/quote:83ec1db877]

    Duh! You support a team because your dad supported them. It's roughly that simple. If you need an analogy, it's like you being a Catholic.
  281. avatar Le Sac Magique
    it was cantona did it for me, the swarthy maverick. i can see why chi-lite(or should i say sheldon) is confustigated, as i too no longer really give a shit, i was mental into it when i was wee but being from tyrone and in particular errigal ciaran made me question fanatacism, although i could never support another team, and still love watching united kick the schite out of everyone.

    Anyway, the season's over, onto the next ones:

    Portugal for Euro 2008
    Tyrone for sam
    Errigal Ciaran to surprise the GAA world by winning All-Ireland hurling club championship, without even using hurls.
  282. avatar mark lanegan
    mon the reds?!
  283. avatar robot_rock
    forget Utd. Celtic just won the league!
  284. avatar gtm
    I think either Celtic or Rangers will win the Scottish League next season.
  285. avatar TheJaneBradfords
    The SPL is the most horrendous league in the world.
  286. avatar George W Best
    Most people had written them off as yesterday's men and their leader had to endure endless attacks (some highly personal) and calls for him to step down but last night vindication was theirs when the [i:29ba265fb9]Conservative Party [/i:29ba265fb9]won the Crewe and Nantwich by-election. :wink:
  287. avatar clss_act_00
    See you later Avram... what a difference a penalty makes!
  288. avatar gtm
    What about Dean Windass's world class volley for Hull today? Great to see Hull finally in the top flight :-)
  289. avatar Franky Van Der Elst
    [quote:460779add7="clss_act_00"]See you later Avram... what a difference a penalty makes![/quote:460779add7]

    Fuck the Premiership. Absolute circus. Football is absolutely shocking these days. I'd give anything for football pre-1992/3/4 these days, just for the wankers to piss off for good.
  290. avatar barrypeak
    I watched the Champions League final in a little bar in Argentina.
    Despite speaking no Spanish, the event was made by the sheer bonkers enthusiasm of the TV commentator.

    BUT... he was trumped by the boxing commentator a couple of nights later who, at one point, semed to say "Ricky Hatton... Whoop! Booop! Boi-oing!!!".
  291. avatar mcstick
    I see that the glens have just replaced their outgoing chairman, Mr Stafford Reynolds, with Mr Aubry Ralph. This conjures amusing mental images of the glens boardroom. I imagine that brandy and smoking jackets were involved in the decision making process.
  292. avatar RockShandy
    Big shakeups going on...

    Possible 14 team division... Maybe up to 18!
  293. avatar nonlogic liam
    WHY.WON'T.THIS.THREAD.[size=24:949ee9d962]DIE[/size:949ee9d962]?
  294. avatar gtm
    Why won't you die? In your dressing gown.
  295. avatar nonlogic liam
    [quote:46668fb594="gtm"]Why won't you die? In your dressing gown.[/quote:46668fb594]

    That's such a football thing to say. I would have also accepted: "so?", "what you looking at?", or "I'll kick your fecking bollocks in"...
  296. avatar whipchorus
    Glad to see Hull in the top flight, if only for their amber and black colours. C'mon Cambridge Utd!
  297. avatar RockShandy
    Ronaldo now quoted as saying he wants to go. Ah well, was good while it lasted I guess. :(
  298. avatar George W Best
    Did he also say that he was a cheating little shit that quakes it everytime the pressure's really on?
  299. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    [quote:925f511cfb="George W Best"]Did he also say that he was a cheating little shit that quakes it everytime the pressure's really on?[/quote:925f511cfb]

    Apart from the Champion's League final, you may recall that cup, it's the one Ronaldo finished top scorer of.

    Suppose United fans could follow the scousers lead and threaten to murder him if he left ensuring he would stay for another few futile seasons.
  300. avatar George W Best
    Man U-shited won the Champions League did you? Oh I'm sorry I stopped following their season after we dumped them out of the FA Cup :wink:
    Shame Ronaldo's going, would have liked to see Pompey flatten the wee turd at The Charity Shield, but hey, that's football.
  301. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
    [quote:3246bb9709="George W Best"]Man U-shited won the Champions League did you? Oh I'm sorry I stopped following their season after we dumped them out of the FA Cup :wink: .[/quote:3246bb9709]

    You should've followed a bit longer, pompey actually won the FA cup 8)
  302. avatar George W Best
    Au contraire mon ami, it was only the Red Filth's season I stopped following, I had most enjoyable day in May watching Pompey telling the Welsh until the Welsh were telt!
    Pompey In Europe!
  303. avatar RockShandy
    In Europe or Champions of Europe... :)
  304. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    Ronaldo -
    Anyone give a sh*t that he stayed? I mean he wears white trousers for f*ck's sake.
  305. avatar ShowYourBones
    But he has a lurvely tan. And everyone knows the bestest way to show off a lurvely tan is to don a pair of white linens.
  306. avatar Clenkoid
    That's true. That's so true.
  307. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    OK so he just wants to show off his tan. He's a simple lad from the humble Madeira peasantry who dared to dream of glittering speedos and ivory trousers. Anyone get the impression that every paragraph of this is a box ticked:

    "I can confirm that I'll be playing for Manchester United next season. I'll be playing with my heart and soul and I will fight and honour the shirt with the same desire and dedication as I always have," said the Portugual international. "My coach [Ferguson] was kind enough to come and see me in Lisbon a few days ago. It was a very honest conversation between two people that respect each other and that I'm sure share a mutual affection and friendship. Sir Alex listened to me, I listened to him and we established that the best for both sides would be for me to continue at Old Trafford.

    "It's no sacrifice for me, it's a great honour. I have important things to win in England. I want to defend the European title and help United become world champions, not forgetting the Premier League and other competitions."
  308. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    [quote:3f00685ffa]He's a simple lad from the humble Madeira peasantry who dared to dream of Glitter and paedos in ivory trousers[/quote:3f00685ffa] :shock:
  309. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    lol, I'm claiming it's you that's twisted Grizz, sittin' there, I don't know - probably in a filthy pair of spangly speedos, possibly under a pair of snow white leggings, seeing Gary Glitter everywhere.
    (While I sit here respectably dressed and within eyeshot of fastfude witnesses).
  310. avatar Rezo
    [quote:45d4d95fc5]"I can confirm that I'll be playing for Manchester United next season. I'll be playing with my heart and soul and I will fight and honour the shirt with the same desire and dedication as I always have,"[/quote:45d4d95fc5]

    That means he'll be away the season after!
  311. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    New Irish League season 1 day away, and the referees go on strike.

    Same old s##t.

    Cliftonville FC: We love you, we love you.
  312. avatar the dirty weed
  313. avatar Cake
    No Egos. No Diving (bar Linfield). No Prawn Sandwiches.

    No football either.
  314. avatar whipchorus
    No prawn sandwiches. Aye indeed. Typical provincial cringeworthy ballix promotion. Y'know, I bet Hull City sold a couple of prawn sandwiches today.
  315. avatar Smallsquare
    Slovak bump
  316. avatar Crackity_jones
  317. avatar JTM
    McCartney did not play well IMO. that whole Hammers/Sunderland move thing has screwed him up, he needs a break. Also Brunt should start, I thunk he played wicked.
    </$0.02>
  318. avatar clss_act_00
  319. avatar Crackity_jones
    [quote:209a0bc7f6="JTM"]McCartney did not play well IMO.[/quote:209a0bc7f6]

    No, I agree, but he's still our best left back by a distance and will be a big loss. McGivern to come in? I suppose Evans could switch to the left but he's been immense in the middle in the last two games.

    Brunt has to play, but I don't think there is any doubt he would in a 4-4-2. His delivery and shooting are a major asset, though he plays like a lazy bugger half the time. Wouldn't mind seeing Paterson start alongside Healy. Really hard-working and tenacious, pretty skilful too. Though he should've buried that chance on Saturday. Feeney was lively when he came on but I'd save him for the last 20 again to freshen things up or push for a goal if we need to. And being at home in a 4-4-2, Baird won't play in midfield. Not sure about that particular tactic.
  320. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    hang on. 40 quid??
  321. avatar whipchorus
    There was no point Baird being in that position against Slovakia, and again why Baird is another story. Still a vital cog in the wheel etc etc etc.

    LOL at France, Italy almost, Scotland, Romania, the Georgian keeper.

    40 quid, you could get a new home top for that..oh wait.

    Belgium 3-2 Estonia...c'mon Les Diables Rouges against the Turks!
  322. avatar Seamusmaguidhir
  323. avatar PlacidCasual
  324. avatar Crackity_jones
    McCartney and Gillespie have been passed fit for tomorrow night. Good news!

    [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7603955.stm[/url]
  325. avatar Crackity_jones
    So, here we go again. Or not, as the case may be:

    [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7881469.stm[/url]

    If it does go ahead, it looks like Healy and Paterson up front. Good decision, both are fit and in form and it gives Paterson a chance to stake a claim against a weak side. Lafferty is mooted for the left hand side, but what about Brunt? He's been playing pretty regularly for West Brom and his passing and crossing could cause havoc.

    Clingan out but good to see Damien Johnson available again.
  326. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    My mate from Dublin texed me this morning sayin:

    I heard Steve Lomas on radio bigging up San Marino.

    made me laugh.
  327. avatar Crackity_jones
    [quote:c030855217="boarsheadtaverncheapside"]My mate from Dublin texed me this morning sayin:

    I heard Steve Lomas on radio bigging up San Marino.

    made me laugh.[/quote:c030855217]

    :lol:

    There are no easy games in international football.
  328. avatar salfhal
    <img src=http://i46.tinypic.com/nlzejn.jpg>
  329. avatar whipchorus
    I almost feel a bit sorry for Terry there, in a kind of 'will he, won't he...ah shit he didn't' way. The crushing inevitability of it all.

    Or perhaps Terry couldn't give a fiddlers. This.
  330. avatar salfhal
    [quote:61e7931564="whipchorus"]I almost feel a bit sorry for Terry there, in a kind of 'will he, won't he...ah shit he didn't' way. The crushing inevitability of it all.

    Or perhaps Terry couldn't give a fiddlers. This.[/quote:61e7931564]

    Nah look at his face, he wasn't expecting to. If only Bridge had pulled a Shawcross on Terry. That'd be justice.
  331. avatar salfhal
    Bellamy is also a legend.

    Check is handshake. He also mouthed "wanker" to Terry.

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    Then said this -

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