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Scientology's closed?
  1. avatar Tele
    Anyone going to participate in the protest outside of the Scientology Centre on Great Victoria Street today (10th February)?

    I'm just curious.
  2. avatar pennyrocks
    Is it a protest against Scientology?
  3. avatar the dirty weed
    will there be greeks?
  4. avatar Tele
    [quote:240a14d0e5="pennyrocks"]Is it a protest against Scientology?[/quote:240a14d0e5]

    Yes.
  5. avatar Pioneers007
    I would say "Burn it down!", but scientology has me in such an evil grip of fear that I would take the statement back.

    Scientology is a goooood thing.... :smt087
  6. avatar Andrew Mc Gibbon
    I think it was 'Blessed are the cheesemakers.'

    Ahh, what's so special about the cheesemakers?

    Well, obviously, this is not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.
  7. avatar esotericeric93
    I would normally be opposed to scientology, but, the thing is Billy Sheehan may be there
  8. avatar die the flu
    Just out of interest (and to stir things up a bit), what's so evil about Scientology (compared to any other religion) that merits a protest outside their Belfast HQ?...

    I mean, of course their beliefs are crazy, and they suck money out of their followers by offering them false salvation. But what about Scientology?

    :-)
  9. avatar my-angel-rocks
    Are they going to carry little inflatable aliens?
  10. avatar Recycled Alien
    [quote:6b795fc812="die the flu"]what's so evil about Scientology?[/quote:6b795fc812]The things that usually come up are coercion, brainwashing, abuse of legal process and various allegations of actual crimes.

    You'll find loads of claims about their behaviours if you do an Internet search.

    I agree that their [i:6b795fc812]theology[/i:6b795fc812] isn't any more ridiculous than any other religion.
  11. avatar Iso9
    check out some scientology related vids on youtube if you want a laugh.
  12. avatar nev
    I walked past them on Thursday afternoon and booed and shook my fist at them, that will be enough for me at the moment.
  13. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:ec78e34c08="Recycled Alien"][quote:ec78e34c08="die the flu"]what's so evil about Scientology?[/quote:ec78e34c08]The things that usually come up are coercion, brainwashing, abuse of legal process and various allegations of actual crimes.[/quote:ec78e34c08]

    Other things that put them into the cult category are the total secrecy of the organisation - the secrets only being available to senior members/people who've paid a lot of money, the need for financial contribution for access to the upper layers, isolation from former friends and family and the near impossibility to leave the organisation.

    Louis Joylon West's definition of cult is
    [quote:ec78e34c08]"A cult is a group or movement exhibiting a great or excessive devotion or dedication to some person, idea or thing and employing unethically manipulative techniques of persuasion and control (e.g. isolation from former friends and family, debilitation, use of special methods to heighten suggestibility and subservience, powerful group pressures, information management, suspension of individuality or critical judgment, promotion of total dependency on the group and fear of [consequences of] leaving it, etc) designed to advance the goals of the group's leaders to the actual or possible detriment of members, their families, or the community."[/quote:ec78e34c08]

    [quote:ec78e34c08="Recycled Alien"]You'll find loads of claims about their behaviours if you do an Internet search.[/quote:ec78e34c08]

    Operation Clambake is usually a good place to start - http://www.xenu.net/

    And this is the site about the protest - http://partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/February_10%2C_2008
  14. avatar T Entertainment
    I beeped. In support of John Sweeney.
  15. avatar theavenue
    I don't think I'd join the protest. I'd be more quick to jumping into a protest against judeo-christianity. Scientology is a joke (as are all religions) that is barely over 50 years old and I can't see it lasting much longer than that again.
  16. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:7b3e3a1527="theavenue"]I don't think I'd join the protest. I'd be more quick to jumping into a protest against judeo-christianity. Scientology is a joke (as are all religions) that is barely over 50 years old and I can't see it lasting much longer than that again.[/quote:7b3e3a1527]

    Its not the beliefs that are being protested though. Its the injustices carried out by practicioners and leaders, which as far as I can tell are a slight bit more dangerous than anything judeo-christianity has been doing recently.
  17. avatar Tele
    [quote:8beb89a43a="theavenue"]I don't think I'd join the protest. I'd be more quick to jumping into a protest against judeo-christianity. Scientology is a joke (as are all religions) that is barely over 50 years old and I can't see it lasting much longer than that again.[/quote:8beb89a43a]

    If we at least take it that people are generally idiots/easily led, and that the measuring stick of cool/style etc. is usually celebrities, then there's a problem. Look at the list of famous Scientologists - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientologists#Famous_Scientologists

    I find it hard to imagine that ALL of them are idiots. What's in it for them? That's what I wonder. Famous people influence a lot of things, and Scientology aggressively "markets" itself to people, using their anti-drugs and criminal rehabilitation wings as easy recruiting grounds for the disenfranchised and aimless.

    It just worries me that there could be a more sinister motive behind Scientology. Just looks at the number of scandals involving the church - they're not the type of scandals involving a bishop feeling up some kids, as awful as that is, but more along the lines of people dying, the ruthless "fair game" attacks carried out on anyone seen to be a critic/opponent of the church, the complete and utter lack of toleration of criticism. What the hell sort of religion is it? If you've seen the Panorama investigation into Scientology then you'll understand just how bizarre their actions are.

    tl;dr - Xenu.
  18. avatar T Entertainment
    If anyone has a contact number for one of the organisers of this, could they PM me please?
    Went round to try and catch them but they're gone...
  19. avatar comprachio
    Christianity has more blood on its hands than scientology ever will have... and their crimes are not simply 'alleged' either.
  20. avatar Tele
    [quote:1d9434c85c="comprachio"]Christianity has more blood on its hands than scientology ever will have... and their crimes are not simply 'alleged' either.[/quote:1d9434c85c]

    Yes, Lisa McPherson only allegedly died after being involved in a minor traffic accident, released into Scientology's care, was not allowed her prescription drugs, and upon allegedly dying a couple of weeks later, she was severely malnourished and also allegedly dehydrated. OH WAIT, THESE AREN'T ALLEGATIONS, THESE ARE FACTS.

    Today is the 13th anniversary (as far as I remember) of her death.

    It's not that I don't agree with you essentially, but no-one is stopping you from picketing a Christian church, or indeed organising a protest if you feel so strongly.
  21. avatar BOOZEHOUND
    to hell with picketing churches...let's burn 'em!
    just like the good old days!
  22. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:92eaf9f65b="comprachio"]Christianity has more blood on its hands than scientology ever will have... and their crimes are not simply 'alleged' either.[/quote:92eaf9f65b]

    Yes, indeed, I don't think anyone is denying that, but there's not much we can do to stop the spanish inquisition/etc now is there? "Free the Salem 29!"

    Feel free to organise protests against Christianity's current problems and misdemeanours if you want. If they're valid, I'll happily come and stand with you. The point of this protest is to reaise awareness that scientology isn't just a harmless religion of weird UFO worshipers and Tom Cruise but a dangerous cult that needs to be checked and watched (probably something that people should have been doing when Christian's were going round burning and killing and torturing and enslaving too, but such is way that the world has changed over the years and "the people" have realised that they can stand up and speak out)
  23. avatar theavenue
    [quote:e8c80fcf03="my-angel-rocks"][quote:e8c80fcf03="theavenue"]I don't think I'd join the protest. I'd be more quick to jumping into a protest against judeo-christianity. Scientology is a joke (as are all religions) that is barely over 50 years old and I can't see it lasting much longer than that again.[/quote:e8c80fcf03]

    Its not the beliefs that are being protested though. Its the injustices carried out by practicioners and leaders, which as far as I can tell are a slight bit more dangerous than anything judeo-christianity has been doing recently.[/quote:e8c80fcf03]

    Christianity has done and will continue to do the same as scientology when it comes to refusal of allowing medication to those who are ill. This is a religion that routinely allows circumcisions to be performed by a rabbi who will clip the foreskin then remove the snipped skin with his mouth. Many children have died through this procedure. This is just one example of course.

    Christianity has much, much more to be ashamed of than scientology. Everyone is quick to acknowledge that scientology is a dangerous cult when another much, much more dangerous cult goes on free from criticism lest you be branded a blasphemer.
  24. avatar comprachio
    To be honestm, my personal belief is that the 'religion' is nonsense and cultish, but is every bit as valid as other religions. I don't believe in organised religion at all so wouldn't pick on any of them.

    All of christianity's woes aren't simply in the past. Nor are islam's and a multitude of other religions. The Catholic church telling their devout followers that Condoms don't prevent AIDS is every bit as harrowing as the church of Scientology not allowing prescription drugs. Honour Killings are still viewed as acceptable by millions of muslims - I think there were over a dozen in the UK last year! Many countries still allow it by law.

    Pick your battles i guess...
  25. avatar ryanego
    [quote:67c25d437a]If we at least take it that people are generally idiots/easily led, and that the measuring stick of cool/style etc. is usually celebrities, then there's a problem. Look at the list of famous Scientologists - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientologists#Famous_Scientologists

    I find it hard to imagine that ALL of them are idiots. What's in it for them? That's what I wonder. Famous people influence a lot of things, and Scientology aggressively "markets" itself to people, using their anti-drugs and criminal rehabilitation wings as easy recruiting grounds for the disenfranchised and aimless.
    [/quote:67c25d437a]

    I find it hard to believe all those people could be that easily led. Maybe Scientology has career damaging information on them eg. drug use, infidelity, various other trappings of fame and fortune, and uses it to blackmail them into giving their name?
  26. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    I can see this soon being filed under the dreaded 'egregorious' soon enough...
  27. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:a133ff5871="theavenue"]
    Christianity has done and will continue to do the same as scientology when it comes to refusal of allowing medication to those who are ill. This is a religion that routinely allows circumcisions to be performed by a rabbi who will clip the foreskin then remove the snipped skin with his mouth. Many children have died through this procedure. This is just one example of course.[/quote:a133ff5871]

    Umm, there's no rabbis in Christianity. There's also no (religious requirement for) circumcision in Christianity. I believe you're confusing things.

    What Christian demonination refuses medical treatment?

    I know the Jehovah's Witnesses and Christian Scientists do, but they're classified as a cult outside of Christianity for these and other reasons.

    [quote:a133ff5871]much, much more dangerous cult goes on free from criticism lest you be branded a blasphemer.[/quote:a133ff5871]

    Shit, they called you a name...fuck me you screwed now aren't you. The irony being of course that you've just criticised them and "they" haven't come down hunting for you. Scientology isn't actually that forgiving.

    [quote:a133ff5871="comprachio"]To be honestm, my personal belief is that the 'religion' is nonsense and cultish, but is every bit as valid as other religions.[/quote:a133ff5871]

    You don't need to believe in organised religion to not think that there's a massive difference between people turning up in a building on a sunday morning and singing some songs to people being made to give all their money to some organisation and then being forbidden to have any contact with your family being treated like a slave and not being allowed to leave...

    [quote:a133ff5871]The Catholic church telling their devout followers that Condoms don't prevent AIDS is every bit as harrowing as the church of Scientology not allowing prescription drugs.[/quote:a133ff5871]

    The CoS banning prescription drugs is the least of their crimes to be honest. But if you want to somehow raise awareness of the comdom-AIDS/honour killings then I'm all for that too.

    But letting one criminal get away with it because well, others have in the past and that just wouldn't be fair now would it, seems a bit silly to me.
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  28. avatar remainsofyouth
    the avenue wrote


    "Christianity has done and will continue to do the same as scientology when it comes to refusal of allowing medication to those who are ill. This is a religion that routinely allows circumcisions to be performed by a rabbi who will clip the foreskin then remove the snipped skin with his mouth. Many children have died through this procedure. This is just one example of course."

    Haha this is in no way a part of the christian faith
  29. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:bd55ccc1be="ryanego"]I find it hard to believe all those people could be that easily led. Maybe Scientology has career damaging information on them eg. drug use, infidelity, various other trappings of fame and fortune, and uses it to blackmail them into giving their name?[/quote:bd55ccc1be]

    Thats one way they do it. The other thing is that celebrities that they are trying to entice are treated rather differently than normal people. There's an enormous celebrity centre in Hollywood which is apparently incredibly luxurious.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Centre

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_and_celebrities

    Hubbard had a list in the 50s of celebrities he wanted to recruit to be Scientologists, because he thought that they would be useful for recruiting normal people.

    http://www.xenu.net/archive/celebrities/

    Amusingly Billy Graham is on that list from 1955 :)
  30. avatar Tele
    [quote:a7b1b175ca="ryanego"]
    I find it hard to believe all those people could be that easily led. Maybe Scientology has career damaging information on them eg. drug use, infidelity, various other trappings of fame and fortune, and uses it to blackmail them into giving their name?[/quote:a7b1b175ca]

    Yep. "Audits" (the Scientology version of confession) provide just that information. The information is written down and filed away. Of course they don't use it for their own purposes, or so they say. Oh, apart form in 1969 when they decided to use them for the purposes of "internal security" and when the glorious leader's wife also abused the trust placed upon her.

    At least that could make it hard to leave if they began having second thoughts.
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  31. avatar theavenue
    [quote:3bbec35224="my-angel-rocks"][quote:3bbec35224="theavenue"]
    Christianity has done and will continue to do the same as scientology when it comes to refusal of allowing medication to those who are ill. This is a religion that routinely allows circumcisions to be performed by a rabbi who will clip the foreskin then remove the snipped skin with his mouth. Many children have died through this procedure. This is just one example of course.[/quote:3bbec35224]

    Umm, there's no rabbi's in Christianity. There's also no (religious requirement for) circumcision in Christianity. I believe you're confusing things.[/quote:3bbec35224]

    I missed a sentence in there. I was of course referring to another religion, Judaism. My mistake. I was trying to make the case that christianity, judaism and the like, have much more blood on their hands than scientology. As has been pointed out before me however, Christianity is indeed a religion that condemns the use of prophylactics and claim that unbaptised children remain in limbo (which I believe only recently they changed their minds on) and (I can't find the article right now but will try again) christianity has also disallowed the use of medication and allowed the person to suffer.

    [quote:3bbec35224][quote:3bbec35224]much, much more dangerous cult goes on free from criticism lest you be branded a blasphemer.[/quote:3bbec35224]

    <img src='http://www.fastfude.org/forums/images/smiles/019.gif' />, they called you a name...<img src='http://www.fastfude.org/forums/images/smiles/013.gif' /> me you screwed now aren't you. The irony being of course that you've just criticised them and "they" haven't come down hunting for you. Scientology isn't actually that forgiving.[/quote:3bbec35224]

    Well that's taking the statement at face value. There are many atrocities linked to the judeo-christian faith. My point is that, despite these atrocities being committed in the name of faith and god and christianity, we cannot criticise this. Your political stance, your taste in music, even your appearance, I can criticise to all lengths, but not your religion. It continues to get a free pass.
  32. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:b734cb3803]Christianity is indeed a religion that condemns the use of prophylactics and claim that unbaptised children remain in limbo[/quote:b734cb3803]

    I'm assuming you mean contraceptives here and not prophylactics? It is only the catholic church which condemn this use, although most catholics I know have ignored this...which highlights another difference between this and scientology. The catholic church (of today) has no way of enforcing its edicts, if scientology says condoms are bad then they will make sure you aren't going to be using them...

    [quote:b734cb3803="theavenue"] My point is that, despite these atrocities being committed in the name of faith and god and christianity, we cannot criticise this. Your political stance, your taste in music, even your appearance, I can criticise to all lengths, but not your religion. It continues to get a free pass.[/quote:b734cb3803]

    Except you can criticise them if that criticism is valid.

    Yes, the pope saying contraception is bad is a stupid, stupid stupid and dangerous thing to have done (although from my experience with AIDS in africa, the reason men don't wear condoms isn't because the pope told them not to) .

    Yes priests cutting off foreskins with their mouth is bad if the babies are dying (although I believed this method had stopped a long long time ago?)

    Unbaptised babies in limbo, well, its a fairly weird belief from my understanding of the bible, but I don't see how it is a harmful belief in anyway? So I don't agree with you on this one.

    I've criticised Christians and the religion on a weekly basis and they haven't a) excommunicated me, or come knocking on my door to burn me at the stake. I believe Christianity is a religion that no longer is overly concerned about critics.

    And I'd like to read that article you refer to because I'm not aware of any mainstream (ie non-cult) christian demonination that disallows use of a lifesaving medicine.

    Anyway, I think we're getting off the main subject
    Scientology is bad mmmkay?
  33. avatar crouchingferret
    Our Scientologist chums are strangely quiet/occasionally litigious about the fact that their glorious founder was, by most accounts, a wife-beater, bigamist, grifter and second-in-command to the also slightly gamey Jack Parsons in the Californian lodge of Aleister Crowley's Thelemic Church. Bit of a hallion, really. Much more so than Jesus.
  34. avatar theavenue
    [quote:298c27cb5d]I'm assuming you mean contraceptives here and not prophylactics? It is only the catholic church which condemn this use, although most catholics I know have ignored this...which highlights another difference between this and scientology. The catholic church (of today) has no way of enforcing its edicts, if scientology says condoms are bad then they will make sure you aren't going to be using them...[/quote:298c27cb5d]

    No, a condom is a prophylactic, so I don't mean contraceptive. It's somewhat naive to believe that this teaching is ignored because a few of your mates who are catholics still use condoms. Many, many people actually stick by this. They don't use protection because the church told them so. Many end up with very large families because of this. Actually, speaking of Africa, the Catholic bishops of Africa also believe that condom use is immoral and actually goes against human dignity.

    I'm curious as to where you're seeing these stories of scientology enforcing their rules onto people. This isn't disbelief in what you're telling me, rather I'm quite curious about this.

    [quote:298c27cb5d]Except you can criticise them if that criticism is valid.

    Yes, the pope saying contraception is bad is a stupid, stupid stupid and dangerous thing to have done (although from my experience with AIDS in africa, the reason men don't wear condoms isn't because the pope told them not to) .

    Yes priests cutting off foreskins with their mouth is bad if the babies are dying (although I believed this method had stopped a long long time ago?)

    Unbaptised babies in limbo, well, its a fairly weird belief from my understanding of the bible, but I don't see how it is a harmful belief in anyway? So I don't agree with you on this one.

    I've criticised Christians and the religion on a weekly basis and they haven't a) excommunicated me, or come knocking on my door to burn me at the stake. I believe Christianity is a religion that no longer is overly concerned about critics.

    And I'd like to read that article you refer to because I'm not aware of any mainstream (ie non-cult) christian demonination that disallows use of a lifesaving medicine.[/quote:298c27cb5d]

    The ritual of circumcision using the mouth is actually still performed to this day and is actually completely legal in New York.

    The unbaptised babies in limbo isn't necessarily a horrible thing, but it is completely immoral to say (especially from a religion that we supposedly take our morals from).

    Christians won't come around your door and burn you at the stake, however this did happen at one time. Non-believers were gathered up and killed. Actually, one quick look at the middle-east would also suggest that an out-spoken non-believer would do well to keep their mouths shut. Christianity is still very much worried about criticism. It has changed, thankfully, but it's not completely open either. I don't believe scientologists would come knocking at my door either, from how you speak of them however, it would suggest that they would. (Again, I'd like to see reports of this kind of enforcement).

    I cannot find the article, however, it was detailed in at least two of the best-selling atheist books that are selling rapidly right now.
  35. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [img:99e4528137]http://boortz.com/images/funny/helen_lovejoy_children.jpg[/img:99e4528137]
  36. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:1d66cffccd="theavenue"]No, a condom is a prophylactic, so I don't mean contraceptive.[/quote:1d66cffccd]

    Well, it is a prophylactic but a prophylactic in general is anything that prevents the spread of disease and they aren't forbidden...

    [quote:1d66cffccd]It's somewhat naive to believe that this teaching is ignored because a few of your mates who are catholics still use condoms.[/quote:1d66cffccd]

    That wasn't my point. My point was that just because the pope says something, doesn't mean its followed. In scientology you either follow the rules, or you are severly punished.

    [quote:1d66cffccd]I'm curious as to where you're seeing these stories of scientology enforcing their rules onto people.[/quote:1d66cffccd]

    Its less enforcing their rules on people and more its enforcing their rules on the members of the organisation.

    http://www.xenu.net/cb-faq.html#faq5b (which links to an interesting forum thread) is demonstration of what they do against their critics

    http://www.xenu.net/archive/enemy_names/
    http://www.xenu.net/archive/enemy_names/dead_agenting.html
    are also informative.

    http://suppressiveperson.org/spdl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=27

    About suppressive persons - "Scientology teaches that Scientologists are a new master race – “homo novis” or “homo scientologicus” – and that [Suppressive Person]s are a component of an inferior race – “homo sapiens” or “wogs” – the Suppressive Person Doctrine is a racist ideology."

    This isn't really the sort of thing you get from christian pulpits, although there are of course the occurances of fruitcakes like fred phelps and dare I say paisley in his early years... but those are one offs, rather than endemic in the entire organisation.

    Seriously, look through Xenu.net, some of it is scary, some of it is actually kinda funny.
  37. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    [img:0e069c4a92]http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/grizzk/tom_cruise_oprah.gif[/img:0e069c4a92]
    [i:0e069c4a92]Scientology in action, yesterday[/i:0e069c4a92]
  38. avatar ryanego
    We need protestant scientology.

    Who wants to reform the church with me?

    Why not remove the hierarchy and make the holy scriptures free to everyone, so even the poorest can access, interpret and follow the divine word? What pious, devout scientologist could possibly claim that spreading the good news for free so everyone can learn from and enjoy it is a bad idea?

    Look what translating the bible from latin did for christianity.

    I'm away to nail that to Tom Cruises face.
  39. avatar Tele
    What about Xenu?
  40. avatar George W Best
    [img:34c68a2afa]http://clampettstudio.com/images/archives/hannabarbera/TW1084-The-Great-Gazoo.jpg[/img:34c68a2afa]
    [i:34c68a2afa]Two Scientologists meeting their God, yesterday.[/i:34c68a2afa]
  41. avatar Saga
    So how did the raid go?

    I know it's over, but no one really seems to be talking about it, just bickering. >_>" Such is the nature of this topic, I suppose?

    Any Norn Iron Anons that were there wanna share their story?
  42. avatar my-angel-rocks
    Sadly, I only found out about it today when I read this topic. Had it been posted earlier than 5am I'd probably have got up earlier and gone...face mask and all :)
  43. avatar goodonpaper
    No one about when I had a gander. Aw well.
  44. avatar Pix
    I went past on the bus this morning and someone had plastered a few packets of bacon all over the window below the scientology centre :lol: :lol:
    whether this is a form of religious persecution (are scientologists veggie??!) or not, I found it extremely hilarious.
    More food-stuffs on windows I say.
  45. avatar comprachio
    [quote:6201c8a8be]people turning up in a building on a sunday morning and singing some songs[/quote:6201c8a8be]

    That's either very naive or a very insulting view that you have of christianity.

    [quote:6201c8a8be]That wasn't my point. My point was that just because the pope says something, doesn't mean its followed. In scientology you either follow the rules, or you are severly punished. [/quote:6201c8a8be]

    But the point is that in countries where the spread of AIDS is increasing, the Catholics DO follow the word of the pope to the letter. The pope is essentially the conduit through which god's will is expressed. It's not the threat of someone knocking on their door that compels them but rather the threat of eternal damnation in hell. Quite a threat if you're a believer.
  46. avatar Chi-Lite
    Yet again some fairly innocuous topic about reptilioids turns into a Christian-bashing exercise.

    History aside, people are not forced to be Catholics. If you don't belive ein the catholic view of sin, start your own religion.

    This nonsense about contraceptives is like people complaining that you're not allowed to be a vegetarian if you eat meat, as if this somehow infringes on your human rights.

    And, to be fair, the Catholic church is quite clear about the spread of AIDS.

    "the best way to stop the spread of aids, is not to buck all round ye"

    This is, to be fair, a fact........a far more efficient method of stopping aids than contraception.

    And, just to muddy the waters, I'm a cathloilc, and yet regularly use contraception. I'm also, of course, a sinner. I've no problem with admitting that, and being told it by the pope doesn't infringe my rights in any way whatsoever.

    You can't have it both ways......if you don't think what you're doing is wrong, fair fa tae ye. No one's gonna stop ye, least of all the pope.

    So wise up to yourselves.
  47. avatar The enfant terrible
    Yes marty but the burden of guilt can sometimes affect the ability to produce and erection thereby wasting money (spent on condoms, drinks and taxi for said other half) and loss of self esteem (appearing less of a manin front of the object of one's desires) so if the pope would just give the fenians the old "okay, dokay" then we3'll stop feeling like we're inferior to our protestant neighbours.
  48. avatar fastfude
    What is this thread about in 10 words or less?
  49. avatar rentaghost
    Mary Kate Olsen (again)
    oh - and some lizards
  50. avatar DuncanDisorderly
    i know someone who had his number posted to a scientology site by his mates for a joke. he needed to be saved apparently. within ten minutes he was phoned by someone in belfast and someone in america offering to help (this was about 3 in the morning). thats just odd.
  51. avatar TheJaneBradfords
    [quote:8ab6cc8c08="DuncanDisorderly"]thats just odd.[/quote:8ab6cc8c08]

    or beautifully efficient...
  52. avatar nonlogic liam
    I once wanted to go and do the "test", but chickened out at the last minute. Has anyone else done it?
  53. avatar Pix
    I filled in the test form just really cos I like multiple choice questions, it was completely weighted to make you seem to be an emotional wreck regardless of your answers. It was quite fun once I realised that :D
  54. avatar feline1
    Scientology is no 'sharia law' - TRUE FACT!
  55. avatar nonlogic liam
    David Davies for Arch-Bishop.
  56. avatar The enfant terrible
    I was once offered a leaflet by the people outside the offices and I said no thank you, I don't read science fiction.
  57. avatar kalitree
    My first post!
    Dammit, I didn't realise there was a Co$ in N.Ireland otherwise I would have gotten outta bed with the hangover and joined you guys.

    Looks like theres a raid planned for 15th March, lets get some rickroll'ing done ^_^
  58. avatar confetti
    boston legal nuff said :lol: :lol: :lol:
  59. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:44cde64536="kalitree"]Dammit, I didn't realise there was a Co$ in N.Ireland[/quote:44cde64536]

    Yeah, their shop/hq is what used to be Backbeat in Shaftsbury Square.

    [quote:44cde64536]Looks like theres a raid planned for 15th March, lets get some rickroll'ing done ^_^[/quote:44cde64536]

    Wheee.
  60. avatar Ooopsapocalypse
    What's it about Rog?
    In 10 words...
    "You're different".
    Followed by...
    "My religion is better than yours".
    Followed by...
    "Hate you!"...now not you Rog!

    Only difference is the fact there are forums to let people have their say and learn these days.
    No forums/communication, then we'll all go back to the good ol' days of the hack an' slice, ask questions later.
    Bit too late unless y'all like talkin' to decapitated heads...though it has it's merits.Too many horror films I fear.
    Problem with religion is it'll always have people who'll use it for their own benefit.
    Certain so-called Muslims and Christians seem to be making a good job of corrupting things currently.

    All organised religions suck balls.
    Ohhh...I'm in trouble now.
  61. avatar Chi-Lite
    Yes but Iain, you, paradoxically, have a phobia of organisation in your personal life.......whereas we all know that in your professional life you, conversely, have a phobia of disorganisation.

    And I wonder how you sleep at night, with all these dichotomies buzzing through your lobes. :D
  62. avatar mcflymo
    I do have a slight chill walking past the Scientology place everyday, just from the bits and bobs I know of it on that Panorama documentary and Southpark (the best place to form your opinions of society really)...

    Tom Cruise is a proper looper. I'm sure a lot of Hollywood people are, but just how much of a looper has become quite a lot clearer now.

    My biggest annoyance with Scientology is that I also can no longer listen to any of Beck's music. Ah well, his last album was a bit crap anyway.
  63. avatar Ooopsapocalypse
    Marty!
    Geet owt of me heeed!!! :
    evil::lol:

    I fear I may be a wee bit mad and as for sleeping, chloroform's been putting me to sleep since 1997. ;-)
    Better than glue I tell's ye!
  64. avatar comprachio
    [quote:88db2008b7]My biggest annoyance with Scientology is that I also can no longer listen to any of Beck's music. Ah well, his last album was a bit crap anyway.[/quote:88db2008b7]

    That's taking it a bit far isn't it??
  65. avatar blindstarkid
    ive been in that scientology place and its muffed up. the guy who was talking to me seemed more like a paedo than a leader. and most of what he told me seems to be completely ripped off from buddhism (reincarnation etc)

    btw i was curious about scientology, im not now. dont worry, i dont want to eat ur children.

    yet.

    it bums me out tho, that like half the cast of my name is earl are scientologists. JASON LEE!! WHYYYY!!
  66. avatar The enfant terrible
    I saw them today at the top of the dublin road giving out stress tests and even though I was still on great victoria street I could feel one of the giving me the hypnotic eye and had to duke into a shop to get away from it because I hear it doesn't work if there's glass between you. Still, don't know how I'm going to walk home, could anyone come and meet me and get me past them, I'm pretty suseptible you see.
  67. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    I know everyone's frightened of Scientology and their litigious side, but when I passed last week, all the protesters had masks on.

    Feck it. Why be so coy?

    I'm prepared to send these tosspots my photo, name, address and all the rest, declaring their "religion" to be complete horseshít, and let the chips fall where they may. Who's with me?
  68. avatar rentaghost
    The protestors wore masks to avoid being photographed as 'fair game'
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology)
  69. avatar dOUBLEwONDERFUL
    YOU ARE NOT ANONYMOUS. YOU ARE NOT LEGION.

    And so on.
  70. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    Let them. I couldn't give a flying one. Let's see how Scientology's definition of fair game stacks up against a drunken Tyrone culchie's.
  71. avatar thecunnyfunt
    [quote:2bf3b1bb96="DontPetABurningDog"]Let them. I couldn't give a flying one. Let's see how Scientology's definition of fair game stacks up against a drunken Tyrone culchie's.[/quote:2bf3b1bb96]

    that's the spirit!
  72. avatar my-angel-rocks
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/20/1?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

    [quote:2d105e7f09]The incident happened during a protest against the Church of Scientology on May 10. Demonstrators from the anti-Scientology group, Anonymous, who were outside the church's £23m headquarters near St Paul's cathedral, were banned by police from describing Scientology as a cult by police because it was "abusive and insulting".[/quote:2d105e7f09]

    ...

    [quote:2d105e7f09]The City of London police came under fire two years ago when it emerged that more than 20 officers, ranging from constable to chief superintendent, had accepted gifts worth thousands of pounds from the Church of Scientology.[/quote:2d105e7f09]

    I'd almost be 100% certain of the CPS laughing and throwing it straight out of court...
  73. avatar tinpot anto
    Scientology can suck my ba11s.

    I mean, come on to f*ck like, [i:4bce06eb2c]SERIOUSLY[/i:4bce06eb2c].
  74. avatar basileh
    I called and I think they just wanted to sell a L Ron Hubbard book.
  75. avatar himynameissween
    [quote:580a7aa540="basileh"]I called and I think they just wanted to sell a L Ron Hubbard book.[/quote:580a7aa540]
    thats how they get ya....
  76. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [quote:1ffe2c8966="DontPetABurningDog"]Let them. I couldn't give a flying one. Let's see how Scientology's definition of fair game stacks up against a drunken Tyrone culchie's.[/quote:1ffe2c8966]

    Did someone call my name?
  77. avatar JTM
    The worst part is they bought over what used to be Good Vibrations record shop, didn't they? Or am I one door out?
  78. avatar DuncanDisorderly
    [quote:19ca36b6fa="JTM"]The worst part is they bought over what used to be Good Vibrations record shop, didn't they? Or am I one door out?[/quote:19ca36b6fa]

    no, you are correct.
  79. avatar JTM
    [quote:53f2aeb14a="DuncanDisorderly"][quote:53f2aeb14a="JTM"]The worst part is they bought over what used to be Good Vibrations record shop, didn't they? Or am I one door out?[/quote:53f2aeb14a]

    no, you are correct.[/quote:53f2aeb14a]

    Grr! :smt076 Right, that tears it. Fetch the incendiaries*
  80. avatar rinky
    [quote:c9d9997cd5="DuncanDisorderly"][quote:c9d9997cd5="JTM"]The worst part is they bought over what used to be Good Vibrations record shop, didn't they? Or am I one door out?[/quote:c9d9997cd5]

    no, you are correct.[/quote:c9d9997cd5]

    No, you are not. Well I suppose you were a bit.

    But it was Backbeat, which moved into Haymarket Arcade in town. How many times has this been asked on here?
  81. avatar trepanner
    According to the wee bar on the left, just once, in 2005..?

    Sorry, I mean "Once, in 2005, smart c*nt". :D
  82. avatar rinky
    I wouldn't go by that little related topics bar. I know for a fact the fella that asked that original question in 2005 has had to repeatedly explain where it is over the past 3 years.
  83. avatar trepanner
    [url=http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=+site:fastfude.org+%22the+dirty+weed%22+backbeat]Computer says no.[/url]
  84. avatar Daithi jasper
    Before Backbeat it was Good Vibrations though.
  85. avatar my-angel-rocks
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7416425.stm

    And as expected, the CPS threw it out
  86. avatar Tom Cruise
    LOOK


    I am the actual TOM CRUISE.

    TOM CRUISE is TELLING YOU these things RIGHT THE FUC K NOW.

    If you FU'CK with TOM CRUISE and the XENU, we will FU'CK YOU the FU'CK in the FU'CKING ASS. In court, on the beach, during an all MALE volleyball tournaments, or IN A BAR.

    IT WILL HAPPEN.


    TOM CRUISE SAYS SO RIGHT THE FU'CKING Fu'CK NOW!!!111!1!Sc1@T10?eeeFTW1!!!one ONE!
  87. avatar my-angel-rocks
    Ummm, Xenu is the enemy of scientologists Tom and you're not supposed to mention it, you should know that surely?
  88. avatar The enfant terrible
    Hey that's not the REAL Tom Cruise, he wouldn't be so dumb as to insult his fans!
  89. avatar my-angel-rocks
    Awwww :(
  90. avatar Franky Van Der Elst
    I heard Tom Selleck was a Scientologist. I am devastated :(

    Also Don Johnson
  91. avatar The enfant terrible
    What about Beck? No no no no x big numbers. (2nd generation too).