1. avatar Jonny Hi Five
    OK, my ear isn't that good and I've got to the stage that I think I really need one to make shows run smoothly.

    What's the best/best value/cheepest/one to avoid??

    And where can I get them for cheapest?
  2. avatar antojasper
    The handiest/cheapest one I ever did see was the QuikTune one.

    You can put it In line and the batteries last a good while.

    You could get one of those Boss Tuner Pedals, but you still have to take your time and pay attention so the cheapy one's probably just as good
  3. avatar Niall Harden
    the QuikTune is ironically named, cos it takes *ages* to get the note right. i use the Seiko one for £20 from Marcus, and it's brill, but you'd be well advised to go for the slightly more expensive one with a backlight. if you can afford it, the Boss pedal tuner is accurate, fast, reliable, visible, and can power other boss pedals.
  4. avatar antojasper
    Aye and it costs more than 50 squid
  5. avatar EPK
    Go for the Seiko one with the backlight, as Niall said. I've had hundreds of them, as they hate me, and the Seiko one lasted longest, and is the most accurate.
  6. avatar feline1
    I don't really see the point of tuner pedals:
    The human ear is hugely more accurate than any wee piece of Japanese electronics...
    And, moreover, if you can't tell what being "in tune" is by ear,
    how will you know if you're out of tune in the first place?
    A: you won't.
    So why bother? Just stay flat and be happy :-)
    Also, most humans come with ears fitted free at the factory,
    so ewe save money too :-)
  7. avatar Niall Harden
    er... shush.

    you can tell if you're out of tune, and use relativer tuning, but without pitch-perfectness it's going to take ages, and you'll not be in tune with other guitars / bass / piano / funny noises from drum machines etc
  8. avatar EPK
    1. Common tuning of any instruments
    2. After soundchecks and particularly shortly after your set starts, your perception of tuning drifts remarkably as your ears try to deal with the frequency onslaught, and it doesn't even have to be loud.
  9. avatar feline1
    Well even if one does use a tuner pedal,
    I'd always recommend using one's ears as a final check.
  10. avatar EPK
    Well...yes, I'd advise that,with another band member... as one night ..inexplicably...my tuner tuned everything perfectly...but it was a semitone flat. And no, it wasn't adjustable. It was scary when I started playing with the rest of the band,who were in concert pitch.
  11. avatar Jonny Hi Five
    feline - I've always used my ear for tuning,

    I've had 13 years of musical training, and not once have I used an electronic tuner.

    But I'm thinking of live shows here - I hate tuning up between songs, and in our band there's loads of space for me DURING the songs to tune up - and obviously I'd need an electronic tuner for that.

    Out of tune-ness isn't a big problem in the band, it's just that we need to make sure.

    Thanks for everyone's help, by the way!
  12. avatar antojasper

    it's easy enough to keep in tune when the entire total number of strings in your band is 4.

    and the other instruments are electrionic and don't need tuned.

    try it with a 12 string a 6 string and a bass, and maybe a mandolin and see how "in-tune" you end up
  13. avatar feline1
    My clavinet has 58 strings, matey!

    And what happened to the usual chorus of remarks about analogue synths going out of tune all the time????

    Perhaps y'all should get digital guitars instead ;-)
  14. avatar EPK
    One mention about analogue synths then...
    Feline 2 at Wildchild...:-)
  15. avatar feline1
    That was just boozes :-(
  16. avatar Riffmaster Steve
    It's all fine and dandy saying you should check your tuning by ear, but there's nothing more amateur looking than tuning up at full volume between tracks, as a lot of bands seem quite happy to do. If you must check your tuning by ear, pick an appropriate moment during a song and check by harmonics - chances are people will just think you're just being clever...

  17. avatar feline1
    I'm sorry if ewe have to tune betwixt songs at full volume, Steve -
    a lot of the English geetars have volume controls....
  18. avatar Riffmaster Steve
    Well, my point really is that if you can hear it, so can the audience. Not very professional looking in my opinion...

  19. avatar EPK
    That's if you have an audience.
    Is there a designated rawk pose for tuning?
  20. avatar antojasper
    Jimi did it without looking at the guitar.

    or there's the Jeff Beck hunched right across the fret board, willing the note to appear.
  21. avatar Thomas Flavell
    Ive never used a petal, but leave the guy alone
  22. avatar feline1
    mY new hobby is manually tuning the 8 steps on the Yamaha CS-30's onboard analogue sequencer.
  23. avatar EPK
    You really [b]do[/b] have too much free time on your hands.
  24. avatar brianmcf
    No doubt you've got a tuner by now jonny, but incase u haven't, i wouldn't get a cheap tuner. Our guitarist had a cheap one and it make his amp buzz a lot. But thats only if you have it plugged in all the time.
    I recommend getting one of the boss chromatic ones, no buzz, good solid tuner. £60 i think.
  25. avatar feline1
    There's a review of an exciting neu! eleckronick "Strobe Tuner" in this months Sound on Sound....
  26. avatar antojasper
    Odd that I always thought "neu" was pronounced "NOY" in germanic.

    sort of "get yer coat on NOY!"
  27. avatar feline1
    Er - it is

    "Neu!" in German rhymes with "boy", "toy", "coy" and "Troy" in English.
  28. avatar antojasper
    ah but it _means_ "new"

    now I see

    And put some clothes on!