[b:02d84c6433]The fires of Hell are real and eternal, Pope warnsRichard Owen in Rome [/b:02d84c6433]
Hell is a place where sinners really do burn in an everlasting fire, and not just a religious symbol designed to galvanise the faithful, the Pope has said.
Addressing a parish gathering in a northern suburb of Rome, Benedict XVI said that in the modern world many people, including some believers, had forgotten that if they failed to “admit blame and promise to sin no more”, they risked “eternal damnation — the Inferno”.
Hell “really exists and is eternal, even if nobody talks about it much any more”, he said.
The Pope, who as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was head of Catholic doctrine, noted that “forgiveness of sins” for those who repent was a cornerstone of Christian belief. He recalled that Jesus had forgiven the “woman taken in adultery” and prevented her from being stoned to death, observing: “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”
God had given men and women free will to choose whether “spontaneously to accept salvation . . . the Christian faith is not imposed on anyone, it is a gift, an offer to mankind”.
Vatican officials said that the Pope — who is also the Bishop of Rome — had been speaking in “straightfoward” language “like a parish priest”. He had wanted to reinforce the new Catholic catechism, which holds that Hell is a “state of eternal separation from God”, to be understood “symbolically rather than physically”.
Agostino Paravicini Bagliani, a Church historian, said that the Pope was “right to remind us that Hell is not something to be put on one side” as an inconvenient or embarrassing aspect of belief.
It had been misused in the Middle Ages to scare the impressionable with “horrific visions” of damnation, as described in Dante’s Inferno.
It had a pedigree, however, that went back to Ancient Egypt and the Greek idea of Hades, and was described by St Matthew as a place of “everlasting fire” (Matthew xxv, 41).
“The problem is not only that our sense of sin has declined, but also that the world wars and totalitarianisms of the 20th century created a Hell on Earth as bad as anything we can imagine in the afterlife,” Professor Bagliani said.
In 1999 Pope John Paul II declared that Heaven was “neither an abstraction nor a physical place in the clouds, but that fullness of communion with God which is the goal of human life.” Hell, by contrast, was “the ultimate consequence of sin itself . . . Rather than a place, Hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy”.
In October the Pope indicated that limbo, supposed since medieval times to be a “halfway house” between Heaven and Hell, inhabited by unbaptised infants and holy men and women who lived before Christ, was “only a theological hypothesis” and not a “definitive truth of the faith”.
— “From here are to be heard sighs, and savage blows resound: then the scrape of iron, and dragged chains. Aeneas stopped, terrified, and drank in the din” Virgil, Aeneid
— “Outer darkness . . . there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth” St Matthew
— “A whirling storm that turns itself / for ever through that air of endless black, / like grains of sand swirling when a whirlwind blows” Dante, La Divina Commedia
— Angels “rolling in the fiery gulf” of “ever-burning sulphur Milton, Paradise Lost
— Locked forever in a small room with two other people Jean-Paul Sartre, writing in his play Closed Doors , published in 1944
[quote:b61bd921b1]In October the Pope indicated that limbo, supposed since medieval times to be a “halfway house” between Heaven and Hell, inhabited by unbaptised infants and holy men and women who lived before Christ, was “only a theological hypothesis” and not a “definitive truth of the faith”. [/quote:b61bd921b1]
I can think of plenty local gigs that are Purgatory.
Course there is, it's the same as the Buddhist one, although both can be considered metaphors for the state of mind into which you are reborn. ie you can experience hell on earth if your karma is bad enough.
[quote:47c7852e27]... Those arguing for the late pontiff to be made a saint believe that, from beyond the grave, he cured ...one nun from France, a woman in her mid-40s... of Parkinson's, the disease that plagued him for more than 10 years before his death.
Monsignor Oder said he had received reports of more than 130 miracles worked by John Paul II, including cancer cures. But he said the desire for his speedy canonisation had prompted him to concentrate on the nun. "The scientific evaluation of cancer cures would have required a wait of eight to 10 years," he said.[/quote:47c7852e27]
When his mates come round, The Pope likes to play a joke where by he kicks their ass at Red Steel on Wii, and then steps back chuckling to show that it wasnt even plugged in. After his mates leave, he looks up to the sky, winks and goes 'thanks again big guy', before walking off whistling 'the imperial march'.