Could anyone recommend me someone or somewhere reliable and not too costly to sort out the intonation on my Westone bass?
I'll do it,Ian, for a old pair of your unwashed Y fronts and a teabag.
Only joking about the teabag. Only takes 10-15 minutes. Edited by: Eamonn P Keyes at: 10/5/05 2:59 pm
Who would provide such a service anyway, i mean i think my Epiphone Sheraton is due an MOT and to be honest i dont really know where to start?
I left an Ibanez into matchetts a while back for a complete set up. This is the only shop I've had do any work of this sort for me and to be honest I wasn't impressed. I have absolutely nothing against Matchetts (as a lot of people seem to) and would buy a lot of my gear from them.
Whilst not wanting to sound too cynical I really wasn't impressed with the job that was done. I don't know who exactly did the job etc but I didn't think it was great.
Any endeavour to express my discontent was obviously met with the "I work in a guitar shop, I know more about these things than you, you're only a kid, trust me" kinda stance.
It came back with much better intonation, but they had really @#%$ with the action. The strings were far lower, but it buzzed really really badly. They tried to claim that the lower action had "really improved the playability" of the instrument. Albeit most notes about the 17th fret choked when you tried to bend them.
I think my tele needs a slight truss rod adjustment, but I would be very reluctant to let it go back in there. I know of a lot of semi-pro players who echo these sentiments.
I unfortunately can't comment on the work of any of the other shops. But I wasn't too keen on how my guitar came back from matchetts. Maybe it was a one off or whatever.
Edited by: gavinearly at: 10/5/05 4:02 pm
The Guitar Emporium seems to be staffed with people who know their way around a fretboard pretty well, they charge about £15 for a set-up and that seems to include, intonation, action and general playability. (either £5 more or £5 less if you include a pack of strings)
I dunno if they like touching truss rods, or more sensitive stuff like that, but there are good people around who can do a good job of that sort of stuff.
£15 is nothing....
looks like im bringing my guitar intae work themorrah for a wee dander down the Emporium
Best setup you can get is through Dennis Currie either from marcus or session (dunno about session now though since alan packed it in i reckon its went less specialist geetar wise to be honest) Dennis is based in Portadown. You leave your guitar with the Marcus shop staff and instructions on what you want done. The guy does it all - refrets the lot. And he isnt hard to pay. I have seen an epiphone neck that someone walked on and split it into shards (ouch) and then seen the rebuild. You couldnt tell it from stock models. Amazing.
Saying that after many years I can now set up a guitar now easily. You REALLY have to mess around with an old one. I bought an old Marlin sidewinder for 25 quid off someone and completely messed about with truss road and bridge etc...
But if you dont trust yer own hands get Dennis Currie. Warren from Marcus also knows his way around the wee beasties you could also do worse than take it into him.
Gordan from Marcus also sets up guitars really well.
or do it yourself, [url]http://www.projectguitar.com/[/url] will give you all the information you'll need.
i've done it, including truss rod adjustments and
fixing a broken neck (headstock came right off just above the nut) with the information from that site.
Thanks Eamonn, I'll give you a shout soon! There might even be a gin in it for you.....
Fine..gimme a call, Ian. I'll mail you my number.
Ensure strings are new and well stretched so you have tuning stability
get a strobe tuner, ordinary needle based tuners can be inaccurate.
take an open string and get in in tune on your strobe,fret the 12th fret harmonic ands fretted 12th fret note , if intonation is accurate these will be the same note as registered on the tuner and in tune.
you have to adjust the string lenghts by moving the string saddle back or forwards to accomplish this.
i wouldnt let matchetts do anything to a guitar , these guys just sell guitars, doesnt mean they know anything about them. ive witnessed a paul set up and it was truly appalling, dont go there.
good luck to you
Edited by: boogiemk1 at: 11/5/05 5:13 pm
If you do it yourself it is important to dab a touch of clear nail varnish, or VPA glue or similar on the intonation screw after you have finished setting the intonation.
Otherwise, particularly with the springloaded one's you have in a strat, they can work loose with the vibration of being played, and *BOING* you have to track down a replacement.
Also with a standard strat, RETUNE *all* the strings to concert after every minor adjustment
When working with a band in the studio, setting the intonation on their bass and guitars is one of the first things I do.
I've just finished some work on my Strats. I wouldn't feel the need to pay someone to do it for me. It's easy guys!
One has the newer tremelo bridge with the two pivot bolts. I had to add two springs to the original 3, otherwise it was way too wobbly and tremelo'd if you breathed on it. The other has the old six-screw version which is more rigid.
The intonation is set as 'boogiemk1' says, getting the octave in tune at the twelfth fret. (19th fret works too, but Strats don't have one.) If the fingered note is higher than the harmonic, you need to move the bridge piece back i.e. longer, and vice versa.
You probably want to get the action more or less right before you start messing with the intonation, and keep everything in tune as you go.
I have a headless Hohner bass (which is brilliant) that I bought second-hand in Smithfield. Well-used, but totally not set up in any way. The previous owner could never even have got it in tune properly. Glad I missed all his gigs whover he was.