1. avatar huggy baps
    I left my ibanez s series, with the fucking floyd rose, into marcus to have it set up before the studio and now its a fuckin shambles!!!
    Theres a slight rattling from the strings, it wont stay in tune, and the high e string, its in tune on the tuner and when i play, say the chord e its ok, but when i go higher up the fret its out of tune!?

    can anybody help me, as its really pissing me off, plus we have a gig next week!
  2. avatar EPK
    I can sort it out for you if you're really stuck, but it's the people you paid to do it who should sort it out, or give you yer money back.....
  3. avatar huggy baps
    If you could help that would be very much appreciated, we have a good bit of rehearsals coming up as well ya see! How will i get the guitar to you?
  4. avatar EPK
    Post it?
    :P

    Naw...I'm in Belfast..will you be up here at any stage?
    Shouldn't take long.
  5. avatar huggy baps
    ill pm ya now!
  6. avatar palrub
    and get your money back off Marcus. To think i was gonna go down and get my floyd rose setup... pfft.
  7. avatar huggy baps
    i wouldnt recommend them! I had it set up great the last time by a friend but hes in Germany now, i wanted the strings changed etc for going back to manor park last week, otherwise i wouldve left it alone. At least ill be able to watch EPK setting up so i can do it myself in future :D
  8. avatar ryankozzi
    who did it? now that Warren has moved to USA there is nobody in there worth doing it. bad move.
  9. avatar Le Mutt
    floyd roses are great, i bought a new guitar about 5 months ago and hadnt touched my floyd rose equip guitar in like 3/4months and it was still in tune.. and even a good trashing hardly effects its tuning. 'mazin'.

    but anyway, i can setup floyd roses for any one that needs it done.. i do the intonation n all, unlike marcus by the sounds of it!
  10. avatar huggy baps
    it was someone called graham. Floyd roses are good when set up, although as its recommended you changed your strings every so often it can get a bit annoying
  11. avatar die the flu
    Never had one and from all the yapping I've heard about them I'll never get one.
  12. avatar huggy baps
    aye, when ive a bit more cash ill get rid of it and get a new guitar without one for sure
  13. avatar die the flu
    In syaing that my PRS has just f*ckin' died on me. F*CK SAKE. The input is f*cking shafted. Balls. I want to take up the triangle or something.
  14. avatar huggy baps
    thats prob cos you came home pist after drinkin all evening and decided you would play guitar, fuck knows what ye did :lol:
  15. avatar die the flu
    I'd deny that but it's true. Ah well. Guess I'll be looking to leave it in somewhere to get it fixed. Am pretty sure it's just the input.
  16. avatar huggy baps
    i'd go to matchetts
  17. avatar Sparky
    Floyd roses always sounded far too scary for me. I had a couple of electrics with tremelos, but even they caused me ructions. Fixed bridge all the way! mind you im a bit simple when it comes to guitars. Ive heard people mention some fella jerome for guitar set ups and repairs. guitar emporium did a nice job on my acoustic for me.
  18. avatar Speed Demon
    [quote="huggy baps"]Theres a slight rattling from the strings, it wont stay in tune, and the high e string, its in tune on the tuner and when i play, say the chord e its ok, but when i go higher up the fret its out of tune!?/quote]

    So basically the action and the intonation - the two most basic things to get right on a guitar - are wrong. Nice work from Marcus.
  19. avatar ryankozzi
    Graeme was the guitar player in my last 'plugged' band. he is usually is 110% spot on with setups.

    He now plays geetar for Keith Semple though . Maybe its hanging about with ex wannabe Pop Stars finalists has rubbed off on him. LOL (joke - their band Alibi is actually very good)

    No but seriously our Graemes work is usually really really good. Im very very shocked that he gave you a bad setup as the guy really knows his stuff. ????

    :smt017
  20. avatar huggy baps
    he said he may not be able to check intonation, but neither did the last guy and it stayed in tune a damn sight better, and felt better too, ah well its being sorted now anyway :-)
  21. avatar EPK
    Yes, I can sort intonation now I've found my hammer and hacksaw.
    If it's flat, the best thing is to saw a bit off the 12th fret and then nail both bits of neck together again. It's easy, I'll show you how.
    Make sure there are bandages.
  22. avatar huggy baps
    a big thankyou to EPK! :-D
  23. avatar ryankozzi
    floyd roses are indeed the crappest trems i have ever came across. they were born in the 80s they should have stayed there. :lol:
  24. avatar Sparky
    people still seem to love them though, but it seems that you really need to know your stuff (from a hardware point of view) when you buy one because they seem so sensitive. i once saw someone trying to change strings and tune it again. i swear i have never seen a more harrowing look of despair on a persons face in my life.

    What are the advantages of them (when they are working properly)?
    What are they good for?

    I ask only cause i have no clue.
  25. avatar Le Mutt
    [quote:fa6fec24fb="ryankozzi"]floyd roses are indeed the crappest trems i have ever came across. they were born in the 80s they should have stayed there. :lol:[/quote:fa6fec24fb]

    guessin you aint seen a fender before... you should go have a look in a guitar shop, they usually have loads. check the jaguar out for a good example :D
  26. avatar Le Mutt
    [quote:a6793b5ada="Sparky"]
    What are the advantages of them (when they are working properly)?
    What are they good for?
    [/quote:a6793b5ada]

    well you can bend the notes up and down with the floyd rose, with a far greater range, apperently about 7 semitones down, and 5 up.
    also the strings stay in tune for months, due to them being clamped at the top of the neck.
    you can also buy a floyd rose speed loader that allows you to change the strings faster at the bridge
  27. avatar huggy baps
    where and how much?
  28. avatar stevieo
    It was Jimi Henrdix' mad whammy bar work that inspired their invention. Hendix could also isolate and tune a string in the middle of a song without skipping a beat. (Ive seen Rab McCullough do that too!)
  29. avatar chrisjedijane
    [quote:9002cb1a1e="Le Mutt"]
    guessin you aint seen a fender before... you should go have a look in a guitar shop, they usually have loads. check the jaguar out for a good example :D[/quote:9002cb1a1e]

    actually, the jaguar trem is pretty underrated - it's not made for massive downbends but the tuning stability is generally fine, esp. on the american ones.

    the problem lies in the fact that the grooves on the saddles are very shallow, and need to be deepened to help tuing stability.

    I wouldn't send my guitar to matchett's to be fixed - a couple of years ago i sent my squier jagmaster in there to have the trem fixed (the bar had snapped off during use) and they accidentally returned it to squier - i had to wait for weeks until they could order a new one in for me! no fun!
  30. avatar EPK
    [quote:80cc9f55dd]actually, the jaguar trem is pretty underrated - it's not made for massive downbends [/quote:80cc9f55dd]
    You bet your sweet bippy it's not.
    It'd be easier just blowing hard on the strings.
  31. avatar huggy baps
    my guitar is still being a total d1ck, the c*nt just wont stay in tune like it used to :(
  32. avatar Speed Demon
    Is it failing to stay in tune, or impossible to tune properly in the first place?

    If the latter, check the intonation: see if the note is the same at the twelfth fret as the harmonic there for each string. (I find that a tuner can detect smaller differences than I can!)

    If the former, it could be a number of problems. Is the neck joint flexing? Are the machine heads slipping? Is there a bridge/saddles problem? Has it got a Floyd-Rose? :twisted:

    (Yes, I know it does. Tempted to say "there's your problem".)
  33. avatar EPK
    I've already done the intonation, Steve.
    I did notice that you've only three springs at the rear. Five will make it more stable, although tuners might be slipping.
    If it's every string , it might be the former..if only one or two individual strings repeatedly, the latter.
    Could have checked it out if I'd known at the time.
  34. avatar rahamilton
    Ok Huggy - are you sure you want to go ahead with this??? The ancient art of the Floyd Rose is indeed a mysterious one...

    VERY BRIEFLY:- The full instructions could fill several pages. Check for no movement at the neck to body joint. Check that the two allen set screws behind the neck that fix the locking nut in position are tight, but don't overdo it. Have the nut clamps been excessively tightened, causing improper mating surfaces? Check that the allen key inserts ( pre 2002 types ) down the vibrato studs are tight. Check for interference from the body or pickguard catching on the edge of the vibrato. Balance the vibrato so that the knife edges are perpendicular to the vibrato studs. Check that the intonation lock screws are tight. Make sure the studs are clean, and some helpful person hasn't oiled or greased the studs or knife edge. Check for sharpness of the knife edge and good condition of the V groove in the studs. Inexperienced people sometimes try to adjust the action when the strings are under tension, causing burrs or inconsistent surfaces. Check that the studs are not sloppy in the body.

    Finally - a good stretch, on new strings, (You aren't trying to keep old fatigued strings in tune are you?), by diving fully and raising slightly a dozen times, before finally tuning works wonders.

    There are other reasons, but they tend to be somewhat obscure.

    Good Luck

    Tony Hamilton