1. avatar huggy baps
    has anyone ever apllied for this and/or won? Ive always thought about it was wasnt sure if there was any point due to the numbers that apply etc. any thoughts?
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  2. avatar Gripper Magee
    If you're not in you can't win!
  3. avatar doomsmoker
    i've applied to years runnning and been unsuccessful,...my sister's fiance and his bro both got theirs first time though!!! :roll:
  4. avatar The Fires of Hell
    Didnt Gerard Depardieu try that?
  5. avatar Ratoot
    Try that Walsh Visa Programme. I whent to Boston on it about 3 years ago and it was great. They give you money *and everything*.

    :)
  6. avatar pcp
    [quote:820180ba4f="huggy baps"]has anyone ever apllied for this and/or won? Ive always thought about it was wasnt sure if there was any point due to the numbers that aplly etc. any thoughts?[/quote:820180ba4f]

    i think if your from certain parts of northern ireland theres a scheme for making getting a visa easier, can't remember what it is tho :?
  7. avatar huggy baps
    [quote:dee5db8085="Ratoot"]Try that Walsh Visa Programme. I whent to Boston on it about 3 years ago and it was great. They give you money *and everything*.

    :)[/quote:dee5db8085]

    its only for unemployed folk though innit?
  8. avatar Speed Demon
    [quote:951f301179="huggy baps"]any thoughts?[/quote:951f301179]

    Yes. I've spent a fair amount of time in the USA and I can't imagine why anyone would want to live there permanently.
  9. avatar T Entertainment
    The weather? The enhanced economic opportunities? The lack of obsession with 16th century-based religious struggle? Some of the greatest cities, scenery and culture in the world?
    Admittedly we have Lisburn. So I take your point. :P
  10. avatar tinpot anto
    [quote:0bf4840e23]The lack of obsession with 16th century-based religious struggle?[/quote:0bf4840e23]

    Yes definitely, sure the Crusades were way before that! :roll:
  11. avatar huggy baps
    [quote:90f3519904="T Entertainment"]The weather? The enhanced economic opportunities? The lack of obsession with 16th century-based religious struggle? Some of the greatest cities, scenery and culture in the world?
    Admittedly we have Lisburn. So I take your point. :P[/quote:90f3519904]

    :lol:

    ive been before on the J1 visa and liked it, so i think the lottery may be worthwhile
  12. avatar Daithi jasper
    [quote:829a8e0a4a]The weather? The enhanced economic opportunities? The lack of obsession with 16th century-based religious struggle? Some of the greatest cities, scenery and culture in the world? [/quote:829a8e0a4a]

    The US does have all of those wonderful things.. but not in the same place.. :)
  13. avatar ChristBaitRising
    I'm stuck in Boston all this week ..... and I want to go home ...
  14. avatar Ratoot
    [quote:c4e9c7d4ef]The weather?[/quote:c4e9c7d4ef]

    F**K me, I whent to Boston in the dead of winter, minus 18 degrees most of time. Then went to New York to work and it was even colder!



    [quote:c4e9c7d4ef]The enhanced economic opportunities?[/quote:c4e9c7d4ef]

    I gat $27 an hour so I can't argue with that!

    [quote:c4e9c7d4ef]The lack of obsession with 16th century-based religious struggle?[/quote:c4e9c7d4ef]

    Yeah, but over-obsession with 21st century bases "religious" struggle!



    [quote:c4e9c7d4ef]Some of the greatest cities, scenery and culture in the world? [/quote:c4e9c7d4ef]

    "Cities" yes "Scenery" yes "Culture" absolutely no.

    The line between Entertainment and culture has been so bluured in the US that people raelly don't know what culture is.
  15. avatar T Entertainment
    So the United States has not produced some of the finest writing, art, drama, comedy, music and cinema of the past 50 years? And is it not readily available in the major US conurbations?
    Yes it has and yes it is.
    And it was US society which provided the cradle for this undeniable contribution to the world's culture in these fields. It's not perfect by any means, but we're ill-placed to diss it from here.
  16. avatar doomsmoker
    my sis is on one of the 3 year walsh visas - dont think they still exist now though?? If i had the chance i'd move to California in the morning,..wouldnt fancy anywhere else in the states apart from the west coast!
  17. avatar ChristBaitRising
    One of the TV channels in my hotel room has been showing 24 hours james bond movies since I got here on saturday .... other than that the telly seems to consist of adverts for slimming pills which tell you that they may have serious side effects ... and dominoes pizza offering a 14 ft pizza which comes with 6 free pizza's and a side order of pizza ..... but the american people are generally very friendly .... fags are cheap too
  18. avatar tenrabbits
    I think if you want good telly in the US you have to get cable.. which is very good.. (sopranos, the wire, bbc america etc!).
  19. avatar T Entertainment
    No Family Guy, Saturday Night Live, Lost, Simpsons, South Park or Curb Your Enthusiasm? They make better TV than us, in many respects.
  20. avatar savoy truffle
    Little Richard
    Fats Domino
    Chuck Berry
    Buddy Holly
  21. avatar ChristBaitRising
    Quite a lot of God channels ...... give me money or burn in hell .... I did get to see some of the new series of scrubs and Law and Order:SVU but thats it really ...... and they seem to blur out any nudity at all on all the channel ..... no nipples at all ...
  22. avatar tinpot anto
    Surely culture exists DESPITE a country's circumstances rather than because.

    No?

    Like I mead did RObert Johnston get a fecking grant from the Arts Council of Alabama.

    Wise the bap.
  23. avatar T Entertainment
    That's irrelevant, someone disputed that the US has produced some of the finest culture in the world. I pointed out that in cinema, music, poetry, art, drama and so on, it indisputably has and does.

    But: 'culture exists' (or is at it is) both despite and due to a country's societal circumstances. Rather bleedin' obviously.


    Anyway, the argument was about here vs the US as a place to live. IMO, the US has rather more to recommend it.
  24. avatar koyo666
    My wife lived in New York for 24 years before moving here and if given the choice now between here and over there .......she'd pick Italy every time.
  25. avatar savoy truffle
    I was pointing out that the reason most of us are playing music is largely down to a bunch of white and black dudes from the States.

    Whether or not they were rebelling against their times doesn't matter. Countries are made up of people and they're a better criterion for evaluation than just governments and foreign policies.

    Don't think anyone was really slagging America though. I'm just elaborating.
  26. avatar Ratoot
    I was mearly making the distinction between Entertainment and Culture. The US is so vast that one connot possibly pinpoint any difinitive "US culture".

    There are massive cultural achievments as diversity etc. within differnt locals in the US but I would resist trying to define a single US Culture. For instance I whent o Kentucky for 2 weeks last year and it was like a different country from Boston. Different Culture, Lifestyle, different Language by all accounts. There was almost a greater difference between Boston and Kentucky than there is between Belfast and Paris.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest fan of Family Guy, I love The Simpsons and I like Baseball (for my sins a Red Sox fan for 12 years and counting). My fav films are (mostly) US films, I love The Smashing Pumpkins and The Kings Of Leon, Jimi Hendrix and inumerable other american music and entertainment.

    (hate Lost and West Wing and 24 and all that new US TV Ballix tho)

    What I was saying tho is that the lines between Entertainment and Culture have been severely blurred. And a distiction has to be made between the two.
  27. avatar Rezo
    Ach come on now it's pretty hard to make that distinction. What do you define culture as? Do you consider classical music and the works of Charles Dickens to be works of entertainment or culture? Dickens work was serialised for publics pleasure so initially it was defo entertainment but it now defo considered classical literature and therefore "culture" IMHO.
  28. avatar Ratoot
    Yeah but we're talking about the yankee doodle dandies here.

    I mean is Rob Schieder Entertainment or Culture?

    "Di durpy durpy durpy durp."