We now have all the equipment need, all the helpers and now we have a website!!!!!!!! Awesome times, gotta check it out. I hope you like it, here's the link to The Underground Music Scene....
check out www.basementsound.co.uk pushing great underground music
Once, just once, I'd like to see the ten people who start their own websites based on the "underground music scene" actually team up and run one really good one. Good luck to you guys though, I look forward to what you're going to cover.
I'll play devil's advocate here, yet again...
1. That's barely a website. Do you really imagine anyone going there for more than 30 secs? If you're going to claim you're doing something, do it properly. Get a domain name, some webspace and someone who knows how to make something that people will want to look at.
2. I know you're all excited about this and everything, but what will your 'site' do that Fastfude doesn't, or Panic Dots, or any of the other (frankly better thought out) sites out there?
3. What is Fastfude if not a way to promote and discuss local music? I don't know how far 'underground' you need your music to be, but going by the bands you've mentioned on your pages it seems to involve some of the most visible and well known local acts. Not exactly blowing our minds there...
4. Admit it - this is all just because you want to do SOMETHING, but just aren't sure what. That's ok. Why not focus on ONE thing, rather than your current strategy of doing lots of things in a shit fashion? MAKE the show, since that seems important to you - host it on YouTube, promote it here and on Facebook - then, if that takes off, branch out. Don't try to become Pitchfork in one fell swoop.
5. Not being mean - but writing clearly isn't your strong suit. People will want more than you just telling them a band is great. If you can't see that now, then I'd be concerned about the entire direction this project will take...
Just so we're clear, I'm not being unnecessarily negative here - I'm just telling you what most people won't be arsed telling you - everyone has seen this too many times. The reasons Fastfude succeeds are varied, but one of the main reasons is because it was here first, and was done well from the start. If it had been a Geocities page we wouldn't be having this conversation now...
However, I would imagine that even traffic here is down in the last couple of years with the advent of Facebook and Twitter soaking up the more frivolous debate (and with it the car-crash passers by), and I'm doubtful that it can get back to the levels of traffic from, say, 2006 or so. (again, conjecture from me - Roger will know if I'm talking out of my hoop or not).
Basically, it boils down to this: what do you want your focus to be?
Blogging? Because there are really good platforms for that, that will make the pages you created look laughable.
Video? YouTube does that really well - just look at [url=http://www.bandwidthsessions.com/]Bandwidth Films[/url] or [url=http://www.redcap-productions.com/]RedCap Productions[/url] - both are doing stuff at a really high level to promote local acts.
Fastfude has occasionally attempted to do other things, but ultimately it's come down to being a good set of forums with some gig listings - simple.
Just pick something and work at it, and DON'T try to make a ridiculous splash by trying to do everything - you'll only end up looking daft when you find out it's not sustainable.
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Hoop it is, I'm afraid!
Traffic is highest now since records began back in the 1850s. Faceboak and Twitter have probably slowed growth a bit, but no noticeable decline yet. The current monthly visits count is around 60% higher than it was in 2006.
I agree with Ron about picking one thing and doing it well though. Forget all the peripheral stuff and just make the show as good as it possibly can be. Sweat the details.
It's not that bad Ron.
I think you're a little pissed that this is actually a good idea, but that you would prefer it done in a different way.
Since this guy is actually doing it, and you are not, then really your criticism rings hollow.
You make good points, but I'd prefer to let this thing grow organically without the *rules* hammering it down before it starts, it will eventually evolve into something good or disappear naturally.
We'd be up for appearing in an episode at some point too. and we're fucking sexy.
Seriously, ditch the current Google Site setup you have and go for Wordpress (what I use and love) or Posterous. Looks about ten times classier, very customisable and just generally works better.
If you're planning on using this *primarily* as a place to put your videos then get a free vlog template and it'll look very snazzy. To be honest, listen to the guys above. Focus on one thing you can do well, and stick with it. If you want writers, advertise on here and get them involved. Occasionally feature other sites and build up a network of local websites so you can all mutually benefit.
Hell, [url=http://secretfireworks.com/]this is what a Wordpress site can look like[/url]:
We need more promotion of funk rock, Ron! What's difficult? Do you want to see the current crop of funk rock bands go the same way as the criminally under rated Myosin? DO YOU?
you should understand Ron is the reason there have been NO significant achievements in the field of Funk-Rock since the release of Paul Maks, Mysosin, www.myosin.co.uk's solo project.
He *never* rests.
Those band 'reviews' are really just descriptions of the bands. If you're doing something like this, make it in-depth. I appreciate this is a decent idea, but maybe it's not ready for a website just yet.
Is that Myosin live video up on YouTube or somewhere? I used to put it on and laugh my balls off.
Oh good luck to you buddy, there are some great tips thrown on here, great that someone is trying something, hopefully it'll take off. If you are looking more bands, check www.myspace.com/tommyshots
Thanks for the support everyone. All the advice has been taken on board. I'll try and make the changes to make it better. Glad some f you liked it. Thanks again.
you owe ron consultancy fees.