1. avatar don sebestian
    Last night, we headed down to play the square peg in Warrenpoint, had a great night, great atmosphere, crowd went bananas. This is all in stark contrast with the judgemental-scenester led atmosphere massacre that is the Belfast gigging experience. Escaping the bleakness of a scene that is suffocated by the dictations of a hierarchy that claims solidarity but actually only consolidates a clique of meph-filled, sidesweeped footsoldiers who lap up whatever fickle assertions the AU gestapo happen to jizz all over them, (*breathes)... was refreshing, exhilarating, and reinvigorated our faith in gigging. We want more of that shit. Warrenpoint is great, anybody care to share what other towns/venues are sweet for gigging?
  2. avatar Alex-Circadian
    Took the words right out of my mouth :lol: . Seems bands/fans from that general area give it stacks at gigs regardless of who's playing. A perfect example would be the Ozzmium video launch in Auntie Annies; a lot of people in attendance came up from that general area and the place was bouncing throughout the gig, with Murdock - who came up from Offaly - receiving a tremendous crowd response despite the fact that most people there had never even heard of them.

    Another example would be a gig we played in The Lodge in Castlewellan. Us, Languished, Black Jacks and Bout Ye played and there was pogoing, dancing and moshing throughout the entire gig; even a stage invasion during our last song :lol: . I find that this kind of thing is absent a lot of the time in Belfast, even when the "big" bands play.

    We'll have to get ourselves down to the Square Peg sometime soon by the sounds of things!
  3. avatar Nathaniel
    i played the Zodiac Sessions down in Dublin recently, in the bruxells just off Grafton street. it was a small venue, but one of the best places iv played in a long time. keeping in mind i am an acoustic folk musican - u cud have heard a pin drop in the place which had a decent crowed. the fella Jazz organising it is a great lad to, really made sure i was looked after as i was from out of town! great night all round with some great other acts
  4. avatar don sebestian
    cool, who runs gigs in the Lodge? you got a contact?
  5. avatar Alex-Circadian
    I'm not exactly sure who runs The Lodge gigs, it was a fundraising gig and I knew one or two people involved in the event so I could ask them tomorrow and PM you if I get a contact.
  6. avatar 666Arcane
    This may sound like Im a dick but every gig outside of Belfast is a better gig put bluntly. I would have to say in my experience the places I thought would be shite were actually the best Lurgan and Carrickfergus being two of them, downpatrick and warrenpoint are class aswell, ballymena rates there also, because the crowd appreciate original music more, Im gonna stick my neck out here also derry stroke londonderry is a dead horse, that is all
  7. avatar spirit of division
    Maybe those places "appreciate" it more as they dont get the choice Belfast people get?
    Could it be the style of music that you guys perform? Might not be "cool" in Belfast.

    Just a thought. There are a load of great bands in Belfast, great gigs and great people. I used to put on a lot of shows in Belfast and I will admit that mostly people werent "rocking out" usually, but then again I tended to deal with less mainstream music than most I guess.

    Belfast offers a lot; infrastructure, contacts, media coverage, and pretty much anything else a band needs to get where they want to go...and I mean that in terms of mainstream or diy bands.
  8. avatar 666Arcane
    I can agree with a good few things there god knows I've played in enough 'mainstream' bands and otherwise, I have done sound for far more and I could generally tell you who I would sign if I was a label and yes most would be playing belfast regularly and some from the city itself, reason being I can see them selling music to an audience that are pretty much like sheep, thats no bad thing, I'm not making a dig but an element of fad band is very inherent in Belfast. We could argue this all night but ideally the question would be better answered if bands both in and out of belfast feel there's a clear divide, an us and them feel; between the two. I talk to a lot of people and its come up in conversation, sound engineers, promoters, bands and so on all say the same thing, I reitterate I'm not having a dig some of the most enjoyable gigs are in Belfast I actually like the Pavillion contrary to what people say Im rarely out of it and The John Hewitt is my favourite bar in Northern Ireland, ps cheers guys for letting me do sound tonight was a pleasure.
  9. avatar chrisjedijane
    Really there are only two types of band - bad ones and good ones...
  10. avatar theotheo
    It mostly comes down to age in my opinion. Most places ive played outside Belfast, are full of youngsters as the places are so lax on ID, so obviously playing to a bunch of drunk kids is gonna result in more action from the crowd. No where in belfast ever lets young people in and the All ages gigs are alcohol free.

    I think that belfast is great for gigs, its never bothered me that crowd don't mosh or anything, its sometimes good to have a crowd in general.
  11. avatar dead_presidents_drummer
    the belfast music scene is balls in my opinion!!the first comment in this post summed it up! Belfast music scene is very clique orientated!(arse lickers) just another point kind of related to this topic...Do none of you guys out there playing in original bands not think you should get paid!i mean whos making all the money?the bars, the person who is putting the gig on?I think its rediculous!you normally dont get so much as petrol money or even a pint!(apart from SONI gigs, the best run local gigs in my opinion!Always a great nite there) Im glad someone posted this topic!
  12. avatar deadpresidents
    Well put Don Sebastian. It's the whole provincial thing I think, people of the tragically hip variety have a chip on their shoulder because of the fact they're not from London, or living in London.

    And, yeah it probably is the lax id policy, and in my own experience people from the country are starved of decent music, where I'm from we have both types country and western.

    I would agree with Chris, there are only good bands and shit bands. but there are various things in place that mean a lot of exceptional bands just don't get a look in.
  13. avatar deadpresidents
    I was having a chat with a kindly old fisherman and we concurred that Belfast is misleading. its a deadend, and when popular bands get in on that circuit they most likely think they have big things ahead. But its not so. People think belfast is some hub of creativity, but its just a hundred or so bands being spoonfed the notion that theyre something special by the AU crowd. 3 or 4 of them get picked up by a major, release a well-produced album.. but that says nothing about the belfast scene itself
  14. avatar forevertwisted
    We played have played in Warrenpoint for years as its our hometown and we were greatly dissapointed by the time we 'hit the big time' and got to play belfast to unappreciative crowds.

    I never really could explain this, whether it was due to the Warrenpoint folk being drunker and therefore dancing and going mad, greater concentration of music lovers(which through time have discovered is not the case), small town syndrome where there is not much else to do, or something entirely different.

    I always found the best crowds are in smaller towns where the bars aren't as strict on ID and there isn't such a great choice of gigs to go to. In Belfast theres live music every night of the week and with so much choice its hard for everyone to go to every gig. In places like Warrenpoint, Ballymena, Omagh, Enniskillen, Derry(to a lesser extent) the crowds maybe only have the one gig a week so are more appreciative and turn out in greater numbers.

    Thats my opinion anyway, feel that theres a greater unity and less clicks within the local scenes. From moving down to Belfast, the music scene comes across as much clickier. Although its of great benefit to having such great choice in Belfast I've always found we sell more merchandise and better feedback from playing to smaller towns.

    And the local crowd are always loyal as Alex was saying when we had our video launch in Annies the crowd came and supported the scene. And were as appreciative to all the other amazing bands that were playing that night as they were to us.
  15. avatar deadpresidents
    The exposure is what it's about , but yes it would be nice to get petrol money some promoters are having a facking giraffe
  16. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    Christ. Cheer up.

    Shit kickers are mental. That's the difference.
  17. avatar Recycled Alien
    OK, name me a band, just one, who are good but aren't getting exposure in Belfast due to cliqueyness.

    Personally, I think it's an easy excuse to make -- "we cud be famous if it wasn't for the fucking cliques!" -- for bands that aren't good enough or working hard enough.
  18. avatar napolitan dentamic
    It has always been the way. I have gigged in a few different set ups over the years(rock/blues/dance) and always the best crowds are outside of 'The big smoke'. Im from belfast myself, but I dont understand it- other than possibly breathing in the fresh 'country air' makes you go like a 3 year old on a tube of blue smarties and a big bottle of fanta.
  19. avatar forevertwisted
    [quote:45c8e2cddb="Recycled Alien"]OK, name me a band, just one, who are good but aren't getting exposure in Belfast due to cliqueyness.

    Personally, I think it's an easy excuse to make -- "we cud be famous if it wasn't for the fucking cliques!" -- for bands that aren't good enough or working hard enough.[/quote:45c8e2cddb]

    Beat Poets, Jackalfued, Rupture Dogs. None of whom get the exposure they deserve, thats just off the top of my head.
  20. avatar thefonz
    Rupture Dogs. second that one aswell top band
  21. avatar ryanego
    Wee towns don't tend to have many nightclubs, Belfast has loads.

    People who want to go out for a drink and a dance in Belfast can (to a certain extent) pick a club that they know will play music they like, and they'll have a good time. People in country towns with one or two pubs don't have that choice.

    Why risk going to see a band who will 9 times out of 10 be unbearably shite, when you can go and dance away to your favourite stuff?

    I'm not saying I think it's perfect, that's just the way I see it.
  22. avatar Strong Reaction
    There's too much going on in Belfast compared to a few years ago. Also the fact that there are gig clashes some nights of bands of the same genre/touring acts, plus promoters/venues who don't communicate doesn't help either.

    As for gigs outside Belfast, I've generally found people are genuinely enthusiastic to see a live band, rather than Belfast where people prefer to compare haircuts/shoes than pay attention to the music put in front of them. Unless it's their mates band of course. However I've had shit gigs outside Belfast also, but that's life.
  23. avatar Chi-Lite
    Every gig I've ever played outside belfast has been class.

    Nothing to do with cliques or fucking haircuts or whatever yous are on about. It's just cause there's not much on in small towns and they love to see anything happening. Also, like Grizz said, the shit-kicking culchies are all fucking mad. And fair fucks to them. Plus there's loads of kids on meph and glue
  24. avatar Stevie Mac
    For someone like me with no immediate transport, it's a bit of a gamble to arrange a gig out of town when it's possible no fecker will turn up to see you. Granted that can happen in Belfast as well but at least you've not far to lug your gear home. My previous band only played outside of the 'smoke twice (Armagh & Brixton) and both trips were unconditionally not worth it, and it was enough to put me off expending any serious effort into any further forays outside Belfast. I'd like to be proved wrong but anyway that's my two bits.
  25. avatar spirit of division
    So what's the difference between Belfast and the small towns in Northern Ireland? Population size and choice?

    People cant expect to play well attended shows in their home towns and make a name for themselves, then come to Belfast and be surprised few people are there...you need to put the work in and unfortunately information tends to flow out of big cities rather than into them. A band can be big in Belfast and do well outside, though a band can be big in Warrenpoint but unknown in Belfast.

    If there's such a choice as in Belfast then music fans will be more discerning about who they see and how they react. They will also have more to compare performances to and make judgements.
  26. avatar Crackity_jones
    As usual, Spirit of Division is spot on in this thread.

    I love this 'AU crowd' business. Every time one of these threads appears, we are held up as pariahs of some kind. It's brilliant.
  27. avatar Recycled Alien
    If you bastards didn't hate the Beat Poets' haircuts they'd be getting gigs, damn you!
  28. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    When a thread like this appears, AU magazine is always ostracized, generally accused of leading this ubiquitous clique that supposedly is more interested in haircuts and shoes. It's surprising, considering the diversity of artists that they choose to have on the front page of the mag. If you consider only the local artists who have graced the cover in recent times, they are four very different bands. Panama Kings, The Answer, Two Door Cinema Club, ASIWYFA. Each of these bands are plugging away in different genres - something that generally gets overlooked when someone with a problem is leading the pitchfork wielding mob. ASIWYFA specifically are the antithesis of the musical style that AU supposedly get behind.

    Tis nout but conjecture!
  29. avatar theotheo
    I agree mickey. Seems like so many bands spend so much time moaning about not getting in AU than spending that time making their band actually worth listening to.

    I'm not a massive fan and i also agree that AU does favor a certain style, but lets face it, its not like it claims to be a metal magazine. I mean like The Answer are a prime example of a band who obviously just spent all there time working towards something rather than moaning about what wasn't going their way and AU obviously had to cover them eventually.

    And the very essence of being in a band progressing is playing to no-one 95% of the time but importantly in new cities/towns. I wouldn't expect more than say 5 or so people to come see my band if we played in say London, but id like to think we would make enough of an impression to make those 5 people to come back n maybe bring a friend and so on. Not dismiss it as soon as we play an empty gig. How many gigs do you go to where bands you don't know are playing, and do you go ape shit and start circle pits if you do go to them, its a tad unrealistic.
  30. avatar the dirty weed
    I think some people on here are giving Belfast way too much credit by suggesting it's some sort of cultural hub and you gotta gig in the sticks to escape those who think everything is so passť.
    In the grand scheme of things, we're still a total fuckin backwater.
  31. avatar chrisjedijane
    [quote:0ba6fa5674="forevertwisted"]

    Beat Poets, Jackalfued, Rupture Dogs. None of whom get the exposure they deserve, thats just off the top of my head.[/quote:0ba6fa5674]

    Apart from the fact that the beat poets have played SXSW/Glasgowbury the past load of years in a row, and the Rupture dogs have been playing Radar and the like, whilst also playing shows over in England? What more exposure do you expect bands to get, really?

    People need to spend less time crying about Belfast being crap/brilliant or there being too many/too few shows, and more time getting on with actually making the best music that they possibly can.

    As for the "AU Clique" thing; how many bands have actually sent stuff in to the mag for review, or even dropped them an email about upcoming gigs? They're not always going to find out about shows from Fastfude or whatever (and many bands don't even spend the two minutes it takes to start a topic on a show here, and then complain how nobody turns up despite them doing no promotion for the show).
  32. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [quote:ed557f78e4]playing to no-one 95% of the time[/quote:ed557f78e4]

    True that, there shouldn't be a sense of entitlement. Just work harder - The Answer are the perfect example of hard work paying off - the 'trendy indie scenester band get all the backing' card can't be used there.
  33. avatar anty2
    So a list of all the places mentioned so far that are great to play outside of belfast? As I am far too lazy to look back
  34. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    [quote:97b4f10f60="spirit of division"]
    Just a thought. There are a load of great bands in Belfast, great gigs and great people. I used to put on a lot of shows in Belfast and I will admit that mostly people werent "rocking out" usually, but then again I tended to deal with less mainstream music than most I guess.[/quote:97b4f10f60]

    Belfast needs you to get back putting on bands, some great bands you had playing!

    Anyway, besides that I agree with both Pete and Niall.

    It's not necessarily a matter of AU and the likes not taking notice, but rather a matter of bands not working hard enough. I mean Niall and Axis Of are a great example, they got where they are now because of some serious hard work.
    Maybe AU may be slightly less accessible for bands that play certain types of music (not saying that is always the case), but if a band doesn't put in the work there is no chance in hell they are ever going to be noticed at all.

    And smaller towns maybe are more receptive because of either younger people being able to attend gigs due to more lax ID controls or the fact that there is not as big of a choice of bands and not any bands play or both.
    Both Belfast and smaller towns have different things going for them, it's just a matter of making the most of what both have to offer.
  35. avatar don sebestian
    My point is that Belfast gigs lack atmopshere. There is a wick, contrived 'cool' inherent in the crowds, even at some of the bigger 'scene-y' gigs. Some incredible bands have played incredible sets infront of big crowds here i.e Adebisi Shank @ Curfew, Cast Of Cheers @ Annies, and the crowd buzz has been dire considering its size, its not because the crowd isn't liking the band, they are, the bands are well received, but the atmosphere is just very conservative, and my paranoia is that unless elements of the crowd have recieved some sort of prior affirmation from AU or from the scene hierarchy about which bands are hip, they unlikely to risk looking like they are enjoying the band.
  36. avatar chrisjedijane
    Cast of Cheers had close to a full house in annies standing right at the front and giving it their full attention. Not bad for a new band's first show in Belfast. I don't think I've ever been to an Adebisi show where the crowd hasn't been appreciative. What are you expecting? Wall of Death? Stagediving? Speaking in tongues?
  37. avatar JonnyTiernan
    [quote:5065c04072="don sebestian"]My point is that Belfast gigs lack atmopshere. There is a wick, contrived 'cool' inherent in the crowds, even at some of the bigger 'scene-y' gigs. Some incredible bands have played incredible sets infront of big crowds here i.e Adebisi Shank @ Curfew, Cast Of Cheers @ Annies, and the crowd buzz has been dire considering its size, its not because the crowd isn't liking the band, they are, the bands are well received, but the atmosphere is just very conservative, and my paranoia is that unless elements of the crowd have recieved some sort of prior affirmation from AU or from the scene hierarchy about which bands are hip, they unlikely to risk looking like they are enjoying the band.[/quote:5065c04072]

    This is completely absurd. The idea that people won't react to a band unless someone else has said it is good is ridiculous.

    And what is a 'scene-y' gig? Going by your examples, it's just one where a good band is playing.

    I really want to see this 'scene hierarchy' though, it sounds great.
  38. avatar chrisjedijane
    I'm at the top of it, because my hair is so nice!
  39. avatar JonnyTiernan
    I would love it if the hierarchy was based on hair. Is Niall Harden number two?
  40. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    Go on and describe to us who is in this scene hierarchy, it's sounds ominous. I must avoid these didactic overlords at all costs.
  41. avatar scumbag
    warrenpoint is a gig graveyard.

    playing INF in warrenpoint is usually to the barman and 2 punters suppin at the bar, one to avoid.
  42. avatar theotheo
    haha, wall of death. Nothing better than circle pits to Two door cinema club
  43. avatar my-angel-rocks
    All the gigs I've played and been to outside belfast have been either completely empty, or quite busy, but no-one was paying attention.
  44. avatar niallgraham
    Q1: 3/4X + 5/6 = 5x - 125/3

    Solve for X. Show your work.

    Q2: Why don't punters react positively at your gigs? Circle the correct answer.

    a) Those scene wrecking indie-hipsters only like what AU tell them to like. Damn them with their haircuts, shoes and beautiful women.

    or

    b) You're shite.
  45. avatar Strong Reaction
    is X = Shite?
  46. avatar The_Martyr
    x = 9.608, I think.
  47. avatar Sir Bob Gelding
    AU are totally into supporting the local scene. I could never imagine their editor having a go at a local band playing the same venue he was running a club night at, because their live music was cutting into the time he was allocated to play other people's tunes.
  48. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:f8da56e60d="The_Martyr"]x = 9.608, I think.[/quote:f8da56e60d]

    Depends how you read the original equation. If its (3/4)X, then X = 10
    If its 3/(4X) then it got too hard for me to remember without going upstairs to find some maths books.

    [edit] either -0.0191 or 7.8524 is my answer for if its 3/(4X), although I'm sure I did something silly
  49. avatar JonnyTiernan
    [quote:bfaf0e93d3="Sir Bob Gelding"]AU are totally into supporting the local scene. I could never imagine their editor having a go at a local band playing the same venue he was running a club night at, because their live music was cutting into the time he was allocated to play other people's tunes.[/quote:bfaf0e93d3]

    This is Shane, isn't it?

    To clarify, I'm the publisher, Chris Jones is Editor. Wouldn't want him being tarred with the brush you are wielding.

    Said local band were meant to be off stage at 10pm. At 10.25pm I politely asked them if they could make it their last song, and pointed out that the gig was meant to be over at 10pm. They then played on for another ten minutes. They came off stage at 10.40pm. They then took their sweet ass time clearing the stage, meaning the club visuals didn't get set up until near 11pm.

    People are coming into the Bunker after 10pm for a club night, it's my business to make sure the club is up and running at that time. People can easily be put off coming into the venue if a band are playing, as they think it's actually a gig. It had nothing to do 'their live music cutting into the time I was allocated to play other people's tunes'. I've DJ'd enough hours in my lifetime not to care about that sort of thing, thanks very much.

    You seem to be implying that having a go at a band for behaving in an unprofessional manner somehow means that I'm not into supporting the local scene. We both know this is balls.
  50. avatar jackalfeud
    Hmm, some would say I'm being biased here but our hometown (Ballymena) has been far and large the best place outside of Belfast we've played. We've played in The Slemish Bar to 20 people and The Braid Arts Centre to a couple of hundred and the response and participation has been awesome. That's certainly not just because we're locals...any band that's played with us will tell you. No Mean City got big cheers the other week there and Ozzmium had the place bouncing.

    Belfast on a good night is awesome too of course but it can be quite hard to find a good night...
  51. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    [quote:c5c4b123a0="don sebestian"]My point is that Belfast gigs lack atmopshere. There is a wick, contrived 'cool' inherent in the crowds, even at some of the bigger 'scene-y' gigs. Some incredible bands have played incredible sets infront of big crowds here i.e Adebisi Shank @ Curfew, Cast Of Cheers @ Annies, and the crowd buzz has been dire considering its size, its not because the crowd isn't liking the band, they are, the bands are well received, but the atmosphere is just very conservative, and my paranoia is that unless elements of the crowd have recieved some sort of prior affirmation from AU or from the scene hierarchy about which bands are hip, they unlikely to risk looking like they are enjoying the band.[/quote:c5c4b123a0]

    Well, for starters, at the Adebisi Shank gigs I have been to in Belfast the crowd has always been really 'out there' in showing their appreciation with the only exception of A Little Solidarity (and that was only because very few people there knew about them).

    And as for the atmosphere, you might be right. Sometimes the atmosphere is dire at Belfast gigs but I don't think that is necessarily the case of people not wanting to be branded as 'un-cool' because they are liking the 'wrong' band. Most of the times it simply means the people just are not into the band playing (and let's us remind ourselves that music taste is a highly subjective issue) or are just not in the mood.
    To contrast what you say, the majority of the Radar gigs I've been to in the past couple of years or so have been good craic. A lot of the times the crowd at those gigs could potentially fall into what you all the 'AU clique' or 'indie kids' and yet the atmosphere has been consistently good with people showing their appreciation for bands if they felt like it, bearing in mind it wasn't necessarily 'AU approved' bands.

    To be honest, I used to think like you do. Then I wised up, looked at the situation and decided I was being overcomplicating things. Just go to gigs and enjoy yourself without caring too much about what other people at the gig are doing, you'll definitely have a better time.
  52. avatar JonnyTiernan
    Getting back on topic...

    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Cellar Bar in Draperstown yet. It's a great place for shows.

    The Island Arts Centre in Lisburn is one of the best venues in the country, and we've put on some great gigs there.

    The Playhouse in Portrush looks like it's going to be a superb venue as well.

    Oh, and from a DJ perspective, La Musique @ Sandino's in Derry is one of best places to play. The crowd just seem to go more mental than anywhere else.
  53. avatar Sir Bob Gelding
    [quote:2749627707="JonnyTiernan"][quote:2749627707="Sir Bob Gelding"]AU are totally into supporting the local scene. I could never imagine their editor having a go at a local band playing the same venue he was running a club night at, because their live music was cutting into the time he was allocated to play other people's tunes.[/quote:2749627707]

    This is Shane, isn't it?

    To clarify, I'm the publisher, Chris Jones is Editor. Wouldn't want him being tarred with the brush you are wielding.

    Said local band were meant to be off stage at 10pm. At 10.25pm I politely asked them if they could make it their last song, and pointed out that the gig was meant to be over at 10pm. They then played on for another ten minutes. They came off stage at 10.40pm. They then took their sweet ass time clearing the stage, meaning the club visuals didn't get set up until near 11pm.

    People are coming into the Bunker after 10pm for a club night, it's my business to make sure the club is up and running at that time. People can easily be put off coming into the venue if a band are playing, as they think it's actually a gig. It had nothing to do 'their live music cutting into the time I was allocated to play other people's tunes'. I've DJ'd enough hours in my lifetime not to care about that sort of thing, thanks very much.

    You seem to be implying that having a go at a band for behaving in an unprofessional manner somehow means that I'm not into supporting the local scene. We both know this is balls.[/quote:2749627707]


    Withdrawn. All day bank holiday drinking and the internet are a bad combination. I should know better than to pass comment on a gig I wasn't even at.
  54. avatar ginxed
    [quote:ac21e94b3c="chrisjedijane"]Cast of Cheers had close to a full house in annies standing right at the front and giving it their full attention. Not bad for a new band's first show in Belfast. I don't think I've ever been to an Adebisi show where the crowd hasn't been appreciative. What are you expecting? Wall of Death? Stagediving? Speaking in tongues?[/quote:ac21e94b3c]

    speaking in tongues :laugh: brilliant, brought a tear of laughter to my eye!

    As far as the algebra: x=10 if read as (3/4)x etc, or if read as 3/(4X) then I got it down to equation of 20x2 - 170x -3 = 0 when i figured that it was highly likely that I was wrong and decided to accept failure
  55. avatar Recycled Alien
    What is education coming to?

    Multiply through by X. Rearrange into conventional form for a quadratic:
    5x≤ - (255/6)x - 3/4 = 0

    Solve for x using the well-known ABC formula:
    8.51761 and -0.01761
  56. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:75758e1f8b="Recycled Alien"]Solve for x using the well-known ABC formula:
    8.51761 and -0.01761[/quote:75758e1f8b]

    Hmm, is close to what I got, I'm content.
  57. avatar Steven Dedalus
    The year isn't complete unless there's a thread about "AU cliques" or "AU approved" bands.

    How does one join? Are there any criteria you have to meet?

    I don't know if I have what it takes.
  58. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    You need a haircut, black thick-rimmed glasses and have to know the lyrics of every single Vampire Weekend song.
  59. avatar Deadlights
    Lisburn may well have the Island Arts Centre, but I can count on one hand how many times I've seen good gigs going on down there in the last year or so. Its a shame because it is a well equipped spot and I don't know if its just because Lisburn is so close to Belfast, or a lot of 'lisburnians' don't seem into their rock music (maybe both) but even gigs like Idlewild a few years back were embarrassing, brilliant bands playing, a half full room if you're lucky. A lot of it is down to poor, and i mean poor, advertising as well though. Plus its not really accessible for a smaller promoter to work with given costs and security. Anyway i've ranted about this enough to the arts council as well in the past, what can you do.

    Everyone get behind the SO:NI hagues shows and the new Frequency ones (which we've played and are both great btw!) and maybe Lisburn will open up a bit as a recognised city for live music too!

    Mark
  60. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:d7c010d4b9="POSITIVExYOUTH"]You need a haircut, black thick-rimmed glasses and have to know the lyrics of every single Vampire Weekend song.[/quote:d7c010d4b9]

    My hair is a little unruly at the moment, my glasses are black at the front, but the legs are blue, and I only really know that line about not giving a fuck about an Oxford comma, or something.

    Although, I am wearing a pair of white Converse sneakers, so that probably counts for something.
  61. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:0fc9daf615="Steven Dedalus"]How does one join? Are there any criteria you have to meet?[/quote:0fc9daf615]

    Get your flatmate to drunkenly insult the publisher. Thats how all the big bands got their breaks
  62. avatar theotheo
    bob you have glasses, and you like twilight. i hate you so much
  63. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    Here, not everyone can be as cool as Flawless Lawlor. Let me at least have the illusion of coolness!
  64. avatar don sebestian
    [quote:3be00c12bc="Steven Dedalus"]The year isn't complete unless there's a thread about "AU cliques" or "AU approved" bands.[/quote:3be00c12bc]

    Well, no, this is a thread about decent places to gig outside of Belfast. Although it would seem it has been turned into a thread about AU cliques by those a little sensitive to the suggestion that one exists. My stance is not borne put of some jealous bitterness at lack of opportunity, other band's success, or some ridiculous problem with alt. fashion. For a start, I play in a band that are doing quite well for themselves, we work hard, play well attended shows on the bills we want to be on, receive great feedback from shows, local media and radio -and are getting as much opportunity as anyone else. The 'indie kid' thing is utter balls considering most of my band, myself included would fall under that fucking horrendous label. I have merely observed that there is a significant difference in atmosphere and intensity between gigs in Belfast and gigs outside of it. Much of my six years since moving to Belfast have been spent a gig-going, alot of which have been really great, however, in the past year or so, i have noticed an atmosphere that is forced and contrived and kinda sinister, and it runs parallell with a steady increase in absolute posers. Its something that doesn't really seem to exist outside the city, which is why I'm interested in what other towns/venues are good steam to play in. Anychance?
  65. avatar flightstrip
    look,the Diamond in Ahoghill.......nuff said;)
  66. avatar huggy baps
    [quote:9acaf076f1="POSITIVExYOUTH"]

    Belfast needs you to get back putting on bands, some great bands you had playing!

    [/quote:9acaf076f1]

    +1
  67. avatar abandcalledboy
    We've had great shows in Belfast. Auntie Annies with GCR and LFL on tuesday was great, class crowd etc. As well we have found the Warrenpoint crowds great for us, well ran gigs and very good promoters, Usually great line ups as well.

    Other places we thought were great are Omagh, Keady and Ards. (Still looking for more places!)
    Anywhere with noise-rock fans works for us :)

    stop complaining about AU 'cliques', if you don't like it, great.
    They make a great mag, and help the NI music scene in doing so.

    If you aren't being noticed and that bothers you a lot, you need to work harder.

    Ryan