1. avatar DavidHill
    Im having a little problem understanding the term "Vintage". Is something vintage if its old? Is something vintage if its old and Rare?

    Seems to me like a lot of "vintage" products are shit Quality, Old, Broken and not so rare... so why do they justify being so expensive?
  2. avatar flightstrip
    im assuming you're commenting on sir strong reactions wee mic.id say vintage is a very loose term.ive had vintage crap from cars to microphones,some good quality,some shite.i think if somethings old or looks old people generally refer to it as vintage.think its up to the individual to check it out and sift the valuable from the naff.
    id say my balls are vintage cos theyre old but pretty well preserved and in full working order though id recommend u try them out to see if they work ok.
  3. avatar DaveT
    vintage simply means old.

    vintage good is good because of the quality of the product itself. The fact that its old usually means its out of production and hard to find.

    If your gonna find a good vintage piece then its expensive because you ave to wait for someone to want to part with one, and even then it needs to be in good condition despite maybe being in a studio for 50 years. You also have to take into consideration that its expensive because you might not be able to get various parts of it anymore too such as old tubes etc

    eg a Telefunkin ELAM 251 goes for around $15,000 if your lucky enough to get someone to sell you one

    Vintage bad can mean any old tat that happens to be old.
  4. avatar flightstrip
    ??
    [img:abef4ec4a8]http://www.bbc.co.uk/lancashire/content/images/2006/06/29/bruce_forsyth203_203x152.jpg[/img:abef4ec4a8]
  5. avatar Leif Bodnarchuk
    Reckon vintage SHOULD mean old but in good nick, desirable, sought after. Unlike yer man's balls.

    How does it work with wine?
    i would hazard a guess that in wine terms, there are rules. i shan't google it, as i have a life. :lol:
  6. avatar Recycled Alien
    There are rules for cars too, but not worth Gooogling it either.
  7. avatar flightstrip
    [quote:96500ccb71="Leif Bodnarchuk"]Reckon vintage SHOULD mean old but in good nick, desirable, sought after. Unlike yer man's balls.

    How does it work with wine?
    i would hazard a guess that in wine terms, there are rules. i shan't google it, as i have a life. :lol:[/quote:96500ccb71]

    hey,theres nowt wrong wi my nuts![img:96500ccb71]http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/squirrel_nuts_1.jpg[/img:96500ccb71]

    as for wine,id recommend a nice 2009 hardys wi the kangaroo on the front followed by a vintage dvd of quality,spinal tap should suffice...

    hill,u sorta hijacked yer mans thread,im gonna give him a tenner for his mic just for the 'breaking the monotony of my day' value
  8. avatar DavidHill
    To Claify...

    I was not commenting on any specific product on fastfude or any other market space, i have been wrestling with the term for along time.

    Vintage guitar can be shitty catalog, mass produced plastic contraptions that arnt worth a penny really. or very nicely hand made beauties that are. Once a car hit a certain age its vintage... can get nice one and bad 1...but vintage clothes are just moth holed faded and just stinkin in general

    another thing, sometimes if something is genuinely rare/vintage and it has been mended and maintained with new parts it also loses it value?
  9. avatar welshchris
    vintage just means old.. I don't think the term itself means anything with regards to quality, value or cost..
  10. avatar flightstrip
    [quote:6edc46a8ce="DavidHill"]To Claify...

    I was not commenting on any specific product on fastfude or any other market space, i have been wrestling with the term for along time.
    [/quote:6edc46a8ce]

    :lol: (ur post went up within 2 minutes of yer mans wee mic thread)
    [img:6edc46a8ce]http://media.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/image/NFL_Granny.jpg[/img:6edc46a8ce]

    fuckin vintage comedic wrestling genius m8,hope peter kays as funny tonight on the brits! peace
  11. avatar DavidHill
    [quote:afea2e2978="flightstrip"][quote:afea2e2978="DavidHill"]To Claify...

    I was not commenting on any specific product on fastfude or any other market space, i have been wrestling with the term for along time.
    [/quote:afea2e2978]

    :lol: (ur post went up within 2 minutes of yer mans wee mic thread)
    [img:afea2e2978]http://media.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/image/NFL_Granny.jpg[/img:afea2e2978]

    fuckin vintage comedic wrestling genius m8,hope peter kays as funny tonight on the brits! peace[/quote:afea2e2978]

    the reasion i asked is because my mate bought a pair of Adidas from Best Vintage at 40 when he could got a new pair for 15

    it also went up 20 minutes after a post selling a [url=http://fastfude.org/topic.php?id=40588]vintage electronic[/url] drum kit. coincidence is all that is. truth is I'm interested in buying the mic now that it has been brought to my attention...
  12. avatar MSB Mastering
    Q: What makes something vintage?
    A: Marketing.
  13. avatar Leif Bodnarchuk
    [quote:a59ef3b630="DavidHill"]...if something is genuinely rare/vintage and it has been mended and maintained with new parts it also loses it value?[/quote:a59ef3b630]

    Don't think so, if you keep it to original spec.

    Imagine a 1960-something ford mustang with the original oil. That would be silly. There's a certain "something" about a bit of kit that really symbolises and is the heart of the thing. For instance, with an old Fender amp, it might be the chassis, the faceplate, and the transformers. The rest is all pretty much expendable and is subject to expected wear and tear.

    "ooh, look at those great old valves!"
    {turns on amp, recoils in horror at sight of smoke seeping from cracks in the valve bases}
  14. avatar whipchorus
    What makes something vintage? Why, a front page spread in Mojo!
  15. avatar thecomeons_2
    didn't it used to be that vintage meant over twenty years old? it doesn't necessarily mean it'sany good though.
  16. avatar Leif Bodnarchuk
    Mmm, vintage x-mas cake.
  17. avatar silent koala
    [quote:d37ff233d9="Leif Bodnarchuk"]Reckon vintage SHOULD mean old but in good nick, desirable, sought after. Unlike yer man's balls.

    How does it work with wine?
    i would hazard a guess that in wine terms, there are rules. i shan't google it, as i have a life. :lol:[/quote:d37ff233d9]

    Certain production years at certain vineyards, due to all the various conditions involved, will stand out as much better quality than the usual, and are declared "vintage"; so not just age, but also a particular run of quality occurring. Which works well with your thinking of what it should mean for gear nicely, I reckon :)
  18. avatar chrisjedijane
    I would say that with most guitars and gear that the term "vintage" can loosely be applied to guitars made pre-1980, before Fender and Gibson became aware of the "vintage" market and started making reissues. It's all subjective, though. I think Ebay has ruined it a little, with everyone talking about "M@J@" and "vibe" and other wine-tasting terms in order to sell what is essentially an Old Piece of Crap.
  19. avatar silent koala
    This is a deliciously fruity, cheeky little combination amplifier, with hints of chestnut, burnt umber and congealed hashish fumes. Slight nose of dry joints, lingering aftertaste of ripped diaphragm.
  20. avatar tinpot anto
    In wine terms "vintage" just means "year of production"

    Old stuff that still works is vintage.
  21. avatar churchwarden
    For cars pre second world war 2 is normally taken as vintage and post ww2 as classic. No tax needed for pre 1973, though you can still get classic insurance up to mid 80s models of particular cars (e.g.: capri etc.)

    That is my entire knowledge of cars in one sentence
  22. avatar NeverSayDio
    i suppose the terms vintage and classic more than likely refer to something of the particular age and nature of the item.i have 3 vintage 50 watt valve heads and 2 classic motorcycles even though they all relate to the same time period of production.as Leif said above if they're sought after etc.,then that gives them a certain standing in terms of monetary value
    Stew