1. avatar PeteLovesToBoogie
    Okay, so im looking to get into djing, and none of this crappy laptop fake crap :)
    vinyl djing.
    im getting some lessons from sonic academy from the parents for xmas, and i was wondering, if i like it, any reccomendations as to what i should get in respect to turntables and a mixer? preferably keeping the price around 250/300 pounds please? thank you :)
  2. avatar thesacredhearts
    2 X technics 1210's
    As good a mixer as you can afford, with an absolute minimum of 2 channels.

    second hand is your best bet.

    dont see the problem with laptop dj'ing though, its all spinning discs at the end of the day.
  3. avatar PeteLovesToBoogie
    Are technics 1210's not wile expensive?
  4. avatar thesacredhearts
    only if you buy them new. you can get a set for 200 quid in good condition 2nd hand. Other, or rather cheaper decks, in particular belt drives are a false commodity imo. you want direct drive decks tbh.
  5. avatar thesacredhearts

    mixer is a pile of crap though, but does to get started with.
  6. avatar comprachio
    Don't buy anything til you get down to sonic. There you will have a chance to use different equipment (including laptops if you wish) and see what suits you.

    Invariably, most DJs these days using vinyl(including a lot of guys that work in sonic) are using a laptop with serato/traktor on it so I wouldn't be so dismissive of that.
  7. avatar PeteLovesToBoogie
    thanks :) my friend has a set of technics 14-something or others and a technics mixer he says he'll sell to me for 550 quid, but its a lot of money to spend to get started i think, and i was more dismissing using virtual dj, not using a laptop as well as vinyl. ive heard about traktor, and it seems like quite a good wee program :)
    thanks for all your help guys, and if i am going to buy cheaper decks to get started, i should definately go for direct drive?
  8. avatar PeteLovesToBoogie
    and could someone please tell me about the gumtree link? im in study in school and cant get on it? thanks :)
    *edited cos i cant spell*
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  9. avatar thesacredhearts
    imo yes. 2nd hand technics are good value, and are the industry standard. if you start playing out they will generally be what a venue has, and you'll be more comfortable with them. but as comprachio says, you'll be able to try lots of stuff at sonic.

    i use traktor and a midi controller myself and its great (despite Native instruments not supporting traktor 3 on snow leopard)

    Edit: gumtree link is 2 technic 1210's and a behringer djx700 mixer for 350 squid.
  10. avatar tenrabbits
    Just get a laptop, stick iTunes on it with a playlist, then gurn a bit between tracks onstage. Job done.
  11. avatar PeteLovesToBoogie
    thanks guys, youve been a great help, i think im just going to wait til i get to sonic academy, try their stuff, and if im sure i wanna use it ill just save up and get the technics stuff my friend has for sale. thank you :)
  12. avatar Sir Bob Gelding
    There's a set of 1210s in the window of Cash Converters for about 375. If you're in any way serious about it, you won't need to buy another set of decks. Extras however...
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  14. avatar comprachio
    Tbh I don't think there's any point in you becoming a vinyl DJ unless you already have amassed a very good vinyl collection or are totally minted and could afford to buy loads of records. Getting a program like serato (I'm presuming you have a laptop) is definitely the most cost effective way of using decks. The initial outlay for the program and interface will be about 400 but that wouldn't get you 100 records and you'll also be hard pushed to find some things on vinyl.

    A lot of people go the laptop DJing route purely because it is the least expensive way of doing it. Also, there is nothing 'false' about a good laptop DJ. I've seen some very skilled DJs using ableton and really working with the program in interesting ways to create sets that you simply can't do with vinyl or CDJs (faux DJs are a great local example). Just as CDJs raised the bar for DJs cos they were more versatile than vinyl, so have laptops called for more creativity from DJs... there's a massive difference between using a beat-match button to mix two tracks on traktor and producing a live mashup/composition set on ableton. I wouldn't be dismissive of the laptop option.

    Anyways... your options;

    *Laptop DJing is cheapest if you have a laptop. You can get most software cracked (if that's your thing) and there are some great value controllers out there.

    *Good CDJs are more expensive than good vinyl decks but you save on having to buy vinyl and there are some good bargains in the second hand CDJ market. CDJ1000s are the industry standard and can do much more than a vinyl deck - hot cues, live looping, wide-pitch, master tempo etc. They don't feel like vinyl but then again no CDJ does - you just get used to mixing on them.

    *Decks are cheaper than CDJs and a set of 1210s is more robust than the average pioneer CDJ in my experience. Vinyl is expensive and can be hard to find though so its by far and away the greatest labour of love.

    *Serato/Final Scratch marries all 3 options. You can use it with vinyl or CDJs. A must if you want to play off vinyl decks but need a huge collection of music readily available to you.

    I wouldn't buy a thing til you go to sonic and see what suits you. Most of the DJs who work there are well versed across ableton, vinyl, CDJ and serato/final scratch and I'm sure they'll give you great advice.
  15. avatar darkprince07
    I have a pretty old DJ system for Vinyls and about 2000 vinyls that I'm looking rid of.

    The DJ console is a Cloud console from the 80's with 2 x Cloud VS2500 tables.
    The vinyls are all in boxes and all playable. Certainly a good beginners set to start with.
    I do my DJin via Dual cd decks now, so have no need for the system.
    All the DJ console needs is new needles.
    I'd sell it very cheap (compared to 300+) so if you want to have a lookey, give me a PM.
  16. avatar PeteLovesToBoogie
    thanks man, but i reckon im gonna go to sonic academy and get my lessons first, before buying anything, if you still have them afterwards i might be interested, so ill maybe pm you in like january or something :)
    thanks man
  17. avatar darkprince07
    Nay problem. Good luck with the lessons.