1. avatar papaul
    Wondering what mixers all the live sound people around Belfast use? How many channels? How many pre-fade auxs? Make & model? What outboard gear you using? etc etc etc...

    Trying to get a rig together and need a bit of guidance!
    Cheers
  2. avatar Recycled Alien
    I'm not one of the proper soundmen around Belfast, but I've done the odd few gigs. My gear is what I'd call the absolute bare minimum: 8 microphone channels on a Behringer mixer with just two monitor sends.

    I'd love the luxury of just a couple more channels even if it was just so I didn't have to mess about so much between bands. Also, just 2 monitor channels is a real limitation: 3 would give the option of mixes for left, right and drummer's lughole.

    I use Behringer EQs on both the main mix and monitors, primarily for their automatic feedback killer, which works really well. I've thought of adding a compressor/processor for vocals, but haven't got anything yet.

    No venue that I know of supplies a monitor amp or speakers, so it's always up to the soundman to bring them.
  3. avatar all-is-vanity
    [*] It all depends on what direction you want to aim yourself in. Do you want to do acoustic or electric acts?!

    Acoustic will require less channels/monitors and a smaller master section on your desk, so you can get away with 8 channels, no problem. If you want to do electric stuff, then anything from 8 channels onwards is probbably going to be needed. It's personal choice how you want to mic/d.i. up.

    You'll also want to consider whether you're going to run active or passive monitoring. Active gear tends to be lower budget/smaller rigs. Passive system tends to be the higher end of the market and you need to amp match, which you may or may not want to avoid, especially considering the extra transport weight.

    You start to get into specialist signal processing (xovers, filters, delay, etc) with bigger systems, which is a tad unecessary for what you're trying to achieve. However, for your aux and master outs, you may want to consider graphics to get rid of those rogue/nasty frequencies.

    Effects wise, you'll probs want some compressors and gates and perhaps a multi-fx for reverb/delay for things like vocals, etc. Your budget will determine what you buy or use. Lower/mid-priced budget will probs be stuff like Behringer, Dbx, Aphex, Yamaha, Roland, TC Electronic, Lexicon, Alesis, Edirol etc.

    Mixer-wise, I'd maybe recommend Yamaha, Soundcraft, Studiomaster, Mackie, Allen & Heath, etc. If you're on a tight budget you may even want to consider brands like Behringer, Proel, Phonic, Alesis and Tapco.

    Mics I'll give a bye, as you don't really need recommendations on that one.

    D.I. wise, you can spend very little on stuff (sub 50) like, Behringer, Art, Samson, etc. or the pricier side of things (60+) like EMO, DBX, BSS and Radial. Behringer do an 8-way D.I. rack for 75 quid, if quality and stage position are not an issue?

    Some bands may want backing tracks or intros played to introduce them, so you may want to consider something like a rack cd player.

    Another thing that you may also want to look into is mains in live venues. With alot of gear, it may be necessary to run off a higher current plug (only really necessary with amplifiers).
  4. avatar all-is-vanity
    Yeah, good point there. Maintenance is costly, especially if you don't have time to look after your own stuff.
  5. avatar Garzo
    Soundcraft 24 channel doofer with 4 aux sends. If you are looking for something to get I would highly recommend any of the Yamaha digital desks. Cost a bit but are worth every penny. Plus the effects etc built into them save the need for outboard stuff. At least for most applications. Cheaper stuff is fine but doesn't have the longevity. Buy right not twice etc.
  6. avatar papaul
    Cheers for the advice, think i'm going to go for a Yamaha mg32/14fx. Need to start collecting mics from eBay now. Anyone else got advice?
  7. avatar TheJebs
    To be honest spending money on a huge desk is in my small opinion a waste of your money!!
    It would be better to spend your cash on decent mics, as you can hire desks or the venue
    might have one or whatever; but as a sound guy your mics and the sound you get from them
    are how you earn your money!!
    Am sure someone will be along in a minute to dispute the above but its my opinion!!
    I personally would prefer to have the mics and worry about desks after the fact,
    or when i got enough regular jobs to warrant it.
    Thats my 2 cents worth!! I could go on but i gotta pretend to do some work
  8. avatar papaul
    [quote:d8aa19f684="TheJebs"]To be honest spending money on a huge desk is in my small opinion a waste of your money!!
    It would be better to spend your cash on decent mics, as you can hire desks or the venue
    might have one or whatever; but as a sound guy your mics and the sound you get from them
    are how you earn your money!!
    Am sure someone will be along in a minute to dispute the above but its my opinion!!
    I personally would prefer to have the mics and worry about desks after the fact,
    or when i got enough regular jobs to warrant it.
    Thats my 2 cents worth!! I could go on but i gotta pretend to do some work[/quote:d8aa19f684]

    Of course, I'm gonna buy quality mics from the start, suppose i should have mentioned it. Quality mics are built to last, don't think i'll be compromising sound by buying 2nd hand.
  9. avatar papaul
    anyone else?