1. avatar KingNeon
    [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8316550.stm]Opens Today[/url]

    So after 3 years we finally get to see the (supposedly) new and improved Ulster Museum. Hopefully people will post in here with their first thoughts when they visit.

    So far i've only seen bits and pieces on the TV but i'm not impressed. I loved the museum as a kid FOR its gloomy brutalist interior, exporing the dark and hidden corners was sometimes more exciting than looking at the exhibits. I'll try and keep an open mind when I go to see it. From what I undertsnad they haven't touched the exterior, which i'm glad of, as I think its one of the most striking structures in Belfast.
  2. avatar SweetDickWilly
    Thanks for posting, I was wondering when the museum was re-opening. Must pop down and check it out.
  3. avatar The Stav
    Yeah, I agree- I loved the dark dingyness of the old 60s interior.

    Going by the pictures it looks shit now. Bright, pretentious and 'modern'.

    Like the Victoria Centre.

    What the fuck is wrong with architects these days?
  4. avatar The Ronster
    [quote:b93466095a="The Stav"]
    What the fuck is wrong with architects these days?[/quote:b93466095a]

    Which, of course, is precisely what people were saying about architects in the '60s, '70s, 1890s...
  5. avatar Orzo
    'The Museum is now categorised into zones, with each floor hosting a different theme.'

    If only it looked like the Crystal Maze rather than a living room from a DFS ad.
  6. avatar jonnymul
    Cool your jets boys.. Its not gonna be as good as you remember coz you're not a kid anymore.. However if you take a wee person with you next time you go they're gonna feel just like you used to.

    I can't want to take no1 son, he loves dinosaurs and show me a 4 year old that won't be astounded by the treasure from the Girona..

    I for one can't wait..
  7. avatar Strong Reaction
    As long as that big fuck off Elk is still there. And the mad stuffed bird attacking the wildcat. And the plastic spider crab.
  8. avatar fastfude
    and The Living Sea. There will be hell to pay if that's been upgraded with 'facts' or 'realistic models'.
  9. avatar tinpot anto
    And the BIG MAD BAZILLION YEAR OLD CAELOCANTH
  10. avatar atomike
    apparently they've completely removed the art gallery section & replaced it with a single room full of Sean Scully's coloured rectangles of bullshit... I for one am not pleased.
  11. avatar Strong Reaction
    I heard a hologram of the coelocanth gives a tour of the Living Sea.
  12. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:50c73c8593="The Ronster"]

    Which, of course, is precisely what people were saying about architects in the '60s, '70s, 1890s...[/quote:50c73c8593]

    Ha! True enough, that!

    I loved the old design, but I'm really keen to see what they've done to it now. I think the museum is a fantastic spot, and has to change with the times. From the pictures, I don't think I'm going to be dissapointed.

    But I also agree about the Living Sea exhibition. It was crucial to my understanding of how the underwater world works, and directly respoinsible for convincing me that I could breathe underwater.
  13. avatar Deestroyer
    museums are for nerds. Nerds!
  14. avatar jonnymul
    deestroyer sucks ....
  15. avatar Deestroyer
    I'll be riding around my motorbike, smoking cigarettes and getting 'fresh' with chicks while you [i:45749fc58a]squares[/i:45749fc58a] are 'studying' in the museum. Nerds!
  16. avatar tinpot anto
    The Living Sea is still there!!!!

    In fact apart from the redesigned entrance and nifty atrium thang they have hardly touched it!

    Best.possible.outcome


    Though why it took 3 yrs and a gazillion quid well never know!'n
  17. avatar we love records
    Personally, from the couple of hours I spent in it on Tuesday night, I think it's pretty wonderful and it is fantastic that Belfast has a museum of this standard. The impact of the building and of the exhibits was striking and they have done a great job presenting the materials - I'm looking forward to spending my lunchtimes walking around it (though I'll give it a week what with half term approaching!).

    Remember, it is free. Go often.

    ...and on a music note... Nick Cave and Warren Ellis soundtrack the Sean Scully film that is showing on the top floor as part of the exhibition.
  18. avatar CallMeKatya
    [quote:6064adc229="Strong Reaction"] And the plastic spider crab.[/quote:6064adc229]

    Are you telling me that the thing that terrified me as a child was plastic?

    Ragin'. That thing spoiled my entire museum-going childhood.
  19. avatar The Stav
    [quote:8115a03f77="The Ronster"][quote:8115a03f77="The Stav"]
    What the fuck is wrong with architects these days?[/quote:8115a03f77]

    Which, of course, is precisely what people were saying about architects in the '60s, '70s, 1890s...[/quote:8115a03f77]

    Aye, suppose you're right like.

    However, it really does look like a huge DFS living room.

    *shiver*

    Anyway, I won't be in a rush to get down there- I'm with Deestroyer on that one.

    NERDS!!!
  20. avatar Smallsquare
    Will they still have an inexplicable amount of goblin men in green blazers hiding in the most obscure places
  21. avatar tinpot anto
    Apparently the old security staff used to veto any exhibits that were too Fenian or papish.

    The absolute highlight of my first quick visit has to be the "Poland" exhibition, which inexplicably appears to consist of a small cabinet filled with the remains of someone carry out, a picture of the pope and a headscarf; with the description along the lines of: "foreigns have always come here so they did. Usually they settle down til be like the rest af iz so they did. God love them. "


    Genius.
  22. avatar Strong Reaction
    Is there still a wee shop where you can buy your bendy snakes and wooden dinosaurs?
  23. avatar xfirefishx
    I'm actually looking forward to going to see this - and I'm glad it's re-opened as it will give me somewhere to bring any visitors to the city apart from the Tropical Ravine and the Palm House - riveting as both those places are.
  24. avatar Per
    is Hapy the ape-headed son of Horus still knocking about? and the samurai suit that looks like Snoop Dogg?
  25. avatar tinpot anto
    Aye all the oul mad stuffed craic is accounted for, the building still keeps it's mad eccentric charm - rubber floors - the smell of those and formaldehyde is the main thing!

    The big wonky eagle eating the cat is there, and a manic looking lion.

    And best of all, although the CARBONIFEROUS machine has been lost for ever, clearly someone on the committee realised the affection that people have for it and commissioned SON OF CARBONIFEROUS MACHINE

    [img:59a84a2773]http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs255.snc1/10224_191385024950_679884950_3915215_2248078_n.jpg[/img:59a84a2773]

    Ok a poor substitute, but at least it's a big map of Ireland that lights up when you push buttons.
  26. avatar churchwarden
    [quote:0a878d0750]apparently they've completely removed the art gallery section & replaced it with a single room full of Sean Scully's coloured rectangles of bullshit... I for one am not pleased.[/quote:0a878d0750]

    The Sean Scully exhibition is temporary - so the museum's own collection will be returning after that.
  27. avatar fastfude
    Can you mash all the buttons together in a twister-like attempt to light all the lights at once? IF NOT, IT MUST BE STOPPED.
  28. avatar tinpot anto
    "Temporary" the DINOSAUR SHOW was "Temporary" ffs!
  29. avatar rinky
    The Sean Scully exhibition has a definite end date though (sometime in February). A huge part of the renovations was to knock through those new galleries and establish a new exhibition programme. It'll be interesting to see what comes of this as the previous plan seemed to be to squander the space, collection and any opportunities presented.

    Glad they seem to have preserved some of the slightly wick charm of the place keeping the Living Sea and all. The wrong looking eagle is even on the homepage. http://www.nmni.com/um
  30. avatar Strong Reaction
    Might go and have a wee poke around today. Anyone know if they still have a cloakroom/bag area? Don't fancy lugging my bass around and randomly smashing up stuffed voles.
  31. avatar Per
    Takabuti looks like a negative of Lance Henriksen. how did i not see this before??
  32. avatar T Entertainment
    [quote:b4fa078350="tinpot anto"]Aye all the oul mad stuffed craic is accounted for, the building still keeps it's mad eccentric charm - rubber floors - the smell of those and formaldehyde is the main thing!

    The big wonky eagle eating the cat is there, and a manic looking lion.

    And best of all, although the CARBONIFEROUS machine has been lost for ever, clearly someone on the committee realised the affection that people have for it and commissioned SON OF CARBONIFEROUS MACHINE

    [img:b4fa078350]http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs255.snc1/10224_191385024950_679884950_3915215_2248078_n.jpg[/img:b4fa078350]

    Ok a poor substitute, but at least it's a big map of Ireland that lights up when you push buttons.[/quote:b4fa078350]


    Yeo! :D
  33. avatar Strong Reaction
    Went today, looks good alright but was mad busy. That Sean Scully thing is a waste of a good roller-rink.
  34. avatar electriccircus
    awful work of art, dont be fooled by a bunch of squares.
  35. avatar thecunnyfunt
    for me the glass extension at the entrance (partially for the enormous obligatory trendy cafe) ruins the looming weight of the cantilevers. I suspect in the architects drawings it looks subtle and completely transparent, but in actuality its quite prominent. I'm really upset by the plastering and painting of all the concrete inside too, which destroys the monolithic feel of the previous extension. I still love the building and the content but overall i'd say it was a massive waste of time and energy with the result of vandalizing NI's best brutalist building. Why couldn't they just have cleaned it up a bit?
  36. avatar Smallsquare
    That Sean Scully certainly is a fan of his squares though I did note in his later period he branched out into rectangles, then very large brown rectangles.
  37. avatar TapeAndTippex
    Sean Scully is a knob. End of story. That ridiculously huge exhibition covering his many periods of development, from drivel to utter shite, is a waste of space. I also miss the old building. It was one of my favourite places to hang out and goof about in Belfast, now it's a gargantuan display cabinet.
  38. avatar Smallsquare
    I wouldn't go so far as to call him a knob, if he can trick rich people into giving him money for samey squares for 2 decades more power to him. They're quite nice but repetitive. Still at least it wasn't Rothko who never quite got past stripes. Or as Sean Scully put it....

    [i:13fa1867ea]"Rothko was an open-armed romantic with a big belly. My work is much more agile and intellectual in a sense, more masculine and muscular than Rothko's."[/i:13fa1867ea]

    [url=http://www.thecityreview.com/scully.html]Endless hilarity[/url]
  39. avatar lincsman
    i thought it was a bit pants to be honest took my wee lad at the weekend. i think it would be better if
  40. avatar Deestroyer
    I stomached an interview with the man himself last night for about 15 seconds: "My [i:530bc806f4]work[/i:530bc806f4] is concerned with borders, and how those borders blend into each other and separate and so forth... Pathos [ah, the old pathos card]. You know, like barriers, barriers and borders and how they constrain one another, here I used a lot of brown [didn't expand on why he used brown, but said it as if the significance of brown was common knowledge.]."
    Then referring to some horizontal black and white stripes: "And this reflects ladders, ascension and... erm.. um..." - Interviewer "Transcendence?" - Scully pauses and looks quietly into the interviewers eyes: "yes," he whispered, "transcendence."

    What I heard was, "listen son, I've no idea what these are about, but some mad cunts think all these squares mean sumpim, don't ask me, I was just trying to use up the left over paint from after I done the garage door and now I have to think of big words to describe 'em to other mad cunts like you."
  41. avatar lincsman
    it was more open planned. mind you it was well busy
  42. avatar Crackity_jones
    Anyone listening to Good Morning Ulster this morning? Bit of a furore because the museum was closed yesterday (first day of half-term), and a fair few souls had brought the kiddies up for a day out. On the one hand, a bit of research on their part would have told them that the place is closed on Mondays, but you'd think the museum might have made an exception due to the first-week demand and the school holidays. Karen Patterson was getting all indignant about it and enjoying it, but yer man from the museum should probably have sucked up his pride and admitted they made a bit of a mistake.
  43. avatar Baelmammon
    Sean Scully terrible work but gets paid.
    Wait till the Museum brings out the piece de resistance, Sir John Lavery paintings. There better be a Neil Shawcross retrospective.
  44. avatar rinky
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8327142.stm

    "To be honest we hadn't checked to see if it was open. I suppose it may be partly our fault, but it seems a lot of people have made the same mistake."

    Just because hundreds were idiots doesn't make each one less of an idiot.
  45. avatar Mr.Coneman
    I went to the opening, the free wine was fantastic.

    The museum was pretty cool, my first time there actually (yeah, I'm uncultured, so what). Scully's work is grim, it looks like samples from carpet world, everything else was enjoyable though, especially the free wine.
  46. avatar Smallsquare
    [img:951c50fb57]http://www.damien.nu/foto/seanscully.jpg[/img:951c50fb57]