1. avatar Jim Cava
    http://www.votematch.co.uk/europe/
    Interesting site which asks you questions on EU policies and then tells you which parties most closely share your views.
    ( There is one question on music copyright issues so it is slightly music related.)
    Some might find it handy.
  2. avatar Deestroyer
    That was a very enlightening exercise, cheers for sticking it up. :D
  3. avatar feline1
    that was mildly interesting, as I will (as ever) vote Green, but according to my answers, I should actually vote LibDem! Ahine!

    These types of things are daftly skewed by the selection of questions and the way they're worded.

    I mean what if the copyright term one had been worded "Do you think independent musicians and 1nd1e labels should be allowed to retain copyright in their recordings for more than 50 years?" rather than the usual guff about Big Corporations?
  4. avatar tinpot anto
    If you skip ALL of the questions you should vote for Alban Maginness apparently.

    LOLS
  5. avatar Nocarsgo
    It speaks the truth. Alban rocks.
  6. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    According to that I should vote Stephen Agnew (Greens), which is actually what I was considering anyway. But as always, don't think I'll vote (also because don't think I can make it).
  7. avatar Sir Bob Gelding
    I'd be voting Steve Agnew, but I can't see his poster because Distortion Project postered over it.
  8. avatar Eamonn Evangelists
    So you won't be voting then? ;)

    Steve Agnew came up for me too, whom I was gonna vote for anyway.
  9. avatar 10rapid
    I got Agnew too despite disagreeing with him on nuclear power and animal experiments....which I imagine are key topics on the green manifesto.
    Also, does his position as a member of the scene compromise his neutrality or will we soon see EU funding for snotty indie bands with tight jeans and bad hair?
  10. avatar feline1
    Dave Greenfield & JJ Burnel's "NUCLEAR POWER (YES PLEASE!)" is one of the most completely ahine Stranglers songs EVER! :o
  11. avatar xfirefishx
    I got Steven as well and then Alliance. Which is pretty much what I would have voted for anyways.
  12. avatar critic_al
    wow, that site is bad news, the top 3 i got, I would never vote for....
  13. avatar Nocarsgo
    This is quite frankly hilarious: it's the full Politics Show debate with all the MEPs. Diane Dodds is hilariously bad. Especially when the DEFRA thing comes about....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00ktldl/The_Politics_Show_Northern_Ireland_31_05_2009/

    or just the crowning moment of the debate...

    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/M_1o_aSoTa4&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/M_1o_aSoTa4&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
  14. avatar Persistence
    "Can I also say-"
    "No you can't. Let's move on."

    Thank you, Jim Fitzpatrick.

    "Farmers are producing milk..." [i:b0165deb27]Really[/i:b0165deb27], Diane? Really now?

    There's very few of them I'd vote for (if I were eligible) but I'd go for Green or Alliance. That votematch thing was pretty accurate, if a bit like pulling teeth.
  15. avatar thepostboxtheory
    Haha!

    Jim slaughtered her...

    She wouldnt shut up lol
  16. avatar feline1
    lol. Definate "YEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!" moment there :) :lol: :lol: :lol:
  17. avatar ryan.sweet
    ARGH.
    Why are you voting greens?
    Stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
    USE YOUR MOST EFFECTIVE BLOC REPRESENTATION. Even just vote in your preferred bloc, I don't care, diluting power away from the four major parties is an absolute mistake.
  18. avatar Crackity_jones
    [quote:c45a0d9910="ryan.sweet"]ARGH.
    Why are you voting greens?
    Stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
    USE YOUR MOST EFFECTIVE BLOC REPRESENTATION. Even just vote in your preferred bloc, I don't care, diluting power away from the four major parties is an absolute mistake.[/quote:c45a0d9910]

    WHAT?! And the continued entrenchment of ussuns VS themmuns politics is a good thing? Whatever.

    I'll be voting Steve Agnew as well. I got Maginness first, then De Brun (lol) and Agnew equal second, not far behind.
  19. avatar Nocarsgo
    [quote:49ae6a9742="ryan.sweet"]ARGH.
    Why are you voting greens?
    Stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
    USE YOUR MOST EFFECTIVE BLOC REPRESENTATION. Even just vote in your preferred bloc, I don't care, diluting power away from the four major parties is an absolute mistake.[/quote:49ae6a9742]

    Thinking like that simply creates a vicious circle, does it not? That's bonkers.

    It's not a question of voting for the winning side. It's a question of voting for policies and voting for people. ESPECIALLY when it's a PR voting system.
  20. avatar Danny Lynch
    NI would be such a better place if only those who have contributed to this post were able to vote...except thon buck eejit up there. i came up green and alliance as well. point blank refuse to vote for any other of them crooks regardless of denomination. pity i didnt register to vote when i turned 18 :?
  21. avatar Nocarsgo
    ...isn't that against the law? :P

    I think we need to realise that this election is NOT about tribal politics but it is about Europe and NI's place in Europe. It's not about local squabbles or getting one over on your political rival, and it's not about who tops the poll because it's a PR election!

    DUP's campaign has been solely about stopping SF top the poll. Fucking stupid. Two sentences in their leaflet about the EU. They've put forward a candidate that can't read a speech out, let alone debate.

    Sinn Fein's a little better, but when I can't read half of the leaflet because it's in Irish, it's still a bit unfair. Sinn Fein are against the EU but claim to represent farmers. Curious.

    SDLP is better. They've run a pro-EU campaign and Alban's a good lad. He's got expertise in Human Rights law, which is always handy, and he's more likely to understand the intricate nature of the laws.

    Alliance and Greens... I wish they were a little more positive about the EU at times. Stephen Agnew's a good speaker and seems fairly clear cut- Ian Parsley can be a little dry at time but he knows what he's talking about and he's pretty passionate when he gets going.
  22. avatar The Ronster
    I've never voted for a person, only for a thing (Good Friday Agreement)

    When it comes down to it I have no faith in anyone who wants power.
  23. avatar my-angel-rocks
    My general rule is "if they've got tribal symbolism on their propaganda, they don't get voted for" It works pretty well I find.

    The website gave me green, sdlp and then alliance, and it turns out the alliance guy is in support of the copyright extension crap, so he's not getting a vote. (Plus, he's the same age as me, and that just feels wrong, although I suspect the green party guy is younger than me)

    I may just spoil the ballot (and the ballet too)
  24. avatar The Stav
    I had a go at that vote match thing there, and I'm pleased to say I don't have much in common with the Jims. Figured that anyway...
    According to the survey I should be going for Agnew, Parsley or Maguinness.
    DUP and Sinn Fein have done their best to divide the people of NI for years, thriving on fear and tribalism. They can't be allowed away with that any longer. If Sinn Fein or DUP get into the European Parliament, which they probably will, they'll be taking NI backwards, making us all look like dicks. But it's still worth voting against them- any increase for non-tribal politics has gotta be a step in the right direction.
  25. avatar Danny Lynch
    [quote:a97ba28591="Nocarsgo"]...isn't that against the law? :P[/quote:a97ba28591]
    emmm... i wont tell if you wont....
    it never occured to me at the time... only recently i saw the posters i thought... hmmm maybe im supposed to register.. then never looked into it because i figured i probably wouldnt even vote anyways.
    however, by the very nature of PR it gives smaller parties a chance to get in...bad eg is the Nazis...but for supporters of green/alliance it could be a big chance for them to show their support and remove the usual eejits from positions of influence firstly for NI in europe...then domestically
  26. avatar Nocarsgo
    my mistake, it's not compulsory to register, but from what I understand, if you're asked to register you have to!
  27. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    It's all well and good to say that because it's a PR system there is a better chance for smaller parties to get in, but then you'd be forgetting votes distribution which can effectively cut off smaller parties.

    Diane Dodds, fucking useless. She doesn't really seem to know what goes on and seems not to have as much knowledge of what goes on as much as you would expect from an MEP candidate. She can't argue and really makes a fool out of herself when she asks for the authority of the chair to be respected then she doesn't do so herself. If most people didn't vote along 'tribal' lines or according to party, there is no chance in the world she would get voted.

    Jim Allister is a joke. He is an idiot and the stereotypical unionist bigot. I found it quite laughable how he called Sinn Fein 'communists' and 'Marxists'.

    Jim Nicholson and Alban Maginness were the only two that actually sounded like real serious politicians. I might not agree with what they say, but at least they were not taking any opportunities to land cheap shots at the others.

    But because of them idiots of Dodds and Allister there really was no chance for Parsley or Agnew to actually speak as much as they probably should have done. Shame, they probably had really interesting stuff to say.

    On a closing one, Italian politicians are a bunch of thieves and scumbags, but Northern Irish politicians are for the most part a bunch of buck eejits and bigots.

    [quote:b31cebd36f="ryan.sweet"]ARGH.
    Why are you voting greens?
    Stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
    USE YOUR MOST EFFECTIVE BLOC REPRESENTATION. Even just vote in your preferred bloc, I don't care, diluting power away from the four major parties is an absolute mistake.[/quote:b31cebd36f]

    And this is possibly one of the most stupid things I have ever heard in this context. You are quite simply talking shite.

    I actually think it's an absolute mistake if people actually did what you suggest because people would just be voting along 'tribal' lines and not really voting according to policies and degree of representation of the candidates they vote. You might aswell spoil your vote if you are gonna go for such a dumb attitude.

    Suggesting that voting smaller parties despite you may agree with most of what they say is wasting a vote just because they may not have a chance to get in is complete bollocks.
  28. avatar eucrid eucrow
    [quote:feb7802c1a="10rapid"]Also, does his position as a member of the scene compromise his neutrality or will we soon see EU funding for snotty music not belonging to or affiliated with a major record company bands with tight jeans and bad hair?[/quote:feb7802c1a]

    Haha, you don't know Aggie terribly well, do you? Indie? Tight jeans? Bad hair's fair enough though.
  29. avatar Chi-Lite
    :lol: Ha, bad hair's right.

    Stevie is a sound sound punter, but I wouldn't vote for him, cause he's younger than me. Just wouldn't feel right. Good fella though, I'd recommend anybody younger than him to vote for him. :D
  30. avatar feline1
    [quote:dd4b86a184="ryan.sweet"]ARGH.
    Why are you voting greens?
    [/quote:dd4b86a184]

    Eh?
    I'm voting for the candidate whose policies most represent my own views.
    Isn't that the point?

    Perhaps you're one of these people who confuses voting with betting on horses, where you're supposed to guess who'll win and you'll win money if you get it right.
  31. avatar feline1
    [quote:8b2dd51673="my-angel-rocks"]

    ...and it turns out the alliance guy is in support of the copyright extension crap, so he's not getting a vote. [/quote:8b2dd51673]


    Eh?
    You're against copyright?
    So if I make a recording, when I'm 20, after I'm 70, I shouldn't be able to earn money from it? WTF?

    NEXT WEEK: if I buy a house, I must be evicted from it at the age of 68, in order to "give other people a chance on the property ladder".
  32. avatar churchwarden
    Hmm... the vote-o-matic came back with Alliance and Green.

    Alas, I haven't voted for Alliance since David Ford's hilariously inept performance on the Nolan show when he tried to explain Alliance's attempts to ban Gay Marriage in Lisburn

    [url]http://www.sluggerotoole.com/archives/2005/07/jeff_dudgeon_wi.php[/url]

    Probably go with Green , even though their blanket "no to nuclear" makes no sense (perhaps someone ought to explain the difference between Fission and Fusion to whoever writes their energy policy).

    After that I think I'll just pick those who are Pro Europe[/quote]
  33. avatar tinpot anto
    I know Alliance are a convuluted enigma of insanity.

    A liberal party with a core of illiberal evangelical christians.

    Only in NI like.

    Greens for me, in lieu of the lack of any socialist options, don't even see me getting to a second pref.

    I did like that Bairbre deBrun's election posters are red, white and blue though.
  34. avatar feline1
    Perhaps the Alliance will be banning gays from Europe. And banning the Eurovision Song Contest.
  35. avatar glitxysadie
    In my opinion the parties are all crap,no one represents me or my views so i may just spoil my ballot too. I'm actually working the election in a polling station but not for my love of politics,more my need for easy money!!
  36. avatar feline1
    [quote:b61a9159a9="glitxysadie"]In my opinion the parties are all crap,no one represents me or my views so i may just spoil my ballot too. I'm actually working the election in a polling station but not for my love of politics,more my need for easy money!![/quote:b61a9159a9]

    why not just go the whole hog and work as an MEP? :lol:
  37. avatar glitxysadie
    Here,you have a point there!!! :lol:
  38. avatar tinpot anto
    I like your policies, I'll vote for you.

    I got a letter today from David Cameron urging me to vote for Jim Nicholson.

    No David you contemptable smug little fuck-wagon, I'm going to do no such thing, and if you ever address me again I'll smash your supercilious little wanky dick monkey face in.
  39. avatar feline1
    [quote:7d9af3266a="tinpot anto"]I like your policies, I'll vote for you.

    I got a letter today from David Cameron urging me to vote for Jim Nicholson.

    No David you contemptable smug little fuck-wagon, I'm going to do no such thing, and if you ever address me again I'll smash your supercilious little wanky dick monkey face in.[/quote:7d9af3266a]

    Where did David Cameron get your address from? Local paedo-ring or sthg?
  40. avatar Recycled Alien
    So, if you don't want to vote for one of the sectarian parties, you're left with the [i:494a25ac42]awfully[/i:494a25ac42] nice Alliance, or the earnest but unwashed Greens?

    If I'd stayed in Italy (and had got off my ass and bothered to register) I'd have had a choice right across the political spectrum, from far left to far right.

    (Unsurprisingly, the left is totally fragmented and factionalised, but the PD, currently the most important opposition party, is a direct descendant of the Italian Communist Party.)
  41. avatar Crackity_jones
    I got Jim Nicholson leaflets specifically addressed to me as well, bit disturbing. They must be getting them from the voters' register.
  42. avatar glitxysadie
    I once got a birthday card from the sdlp,weirded me out slightly!!no money in it though sadly :cry:
  43. avatar feline1
    That's nothing, famous journalist Niall Stanage's neighbour (Big Ronnie from Tray Elektrannicks) got (in 1993) a christmas card from the UDA.
  44. avatar ryan.sweet
    Its hilarious watching people calling me mad.
    People who know nothing about politics.

    If I could vote (which I can't) I would be using Alban Mc Guiness. Number one hes nationalist and number two he is a very very smart man.

    The reason I don't support any move to the stupid, disenfranchised on key decisions, centre ground, is because our history is vital, believe it or not, to the future of this country.
    With the next general election, we could move towards a proper system of government. One where the SDLP and the UUP withdraw from the executive, forming a GENUINE OPPOSITION. That's what this country needs.
    That's when the entire middle ground will fail, because people will vote on real policy merit, real scrutiny of SF and the DUP will begin putting some serious pressure on policy issues. Then we'll see some "I don't give a fuck about decommissioning, whats happening with this education mess you stupid Ruane bitch". The middle ground will be taken over by the four main parties, factional smaller groups will fall away, revealing a genuine political spectrum and pulling this government into a seriously strong devolved government.

    I don't care whos unionist, whos nationalist. I want a devolved government thats working its ballex of, and that is the only way to get it.
    Inter bloc competition is always going to exist, stop trying to deny it. Yes, I do think consociational politics is sad, I would much prefer a proper left right centre, government opposition situation.
    With the four main parties making this shift, we'll eventually see the shift over a very long time to a serious system where consociationalism is diluted from our politics.
    This is what I want and I believe that this is what all you lot are harping on about, but don't know enough so you go "fuck it, im voting greens".
    Oh and lastly, dont use the policy arguement on me. Theres 700 odd MEPs... This will keep the polcies broadly in check, with whoever gets in fighting for what NI needs.
    ...I jsut wish more people realised this..
  45. avatar feline1
    [quote:cde8c0a4aa="ryan.sweet"]Its hilarious watching people calling me mad.
    People who know nothing about politics.

    If I could vote (which I can't) [/quote:cde8c0a4aa]


    Are you disqualified from voting because you're insane?
  46. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    [quote:25379ca8f1="Recycled Alien"]
    If I'd stayed in Italy (and had got off my ass and bothered to register) I'd have had a choice right across the political spectrum, from far left to far right.
    [/quote:25379ca8f1]

    80% (if not more) are still a pack of wankers, but you are absolutely right.
    Us Italians have it relatively 'easy' because there is a broad spectrum with a quite wide range of ideas and politices represented. You have 'third millennium fascists' and old school anti-semitic Nazi sympathiters to one end and die hard Marxist-Leninists and Syndacalist communists to the other end with everything you could possibly immagine in between.
    It is daunting wading through all the parties represented, trust me, but at least there is a better chance of finding someone that represents you.

    [quote:25379ca8f1="Recycled Alien"]
    (Unsurprisingly, the left is totally fragmented and factionalised, but the PD, currently the most important opposition party, is a direct descendant of the Italian Communist Party.)[/quote:25379ca8f1]

    Fucking wish it was so!
    But sadly they are mostly a pack of liberal centrists and even some Catholics in there. Not even the direct descendent of the Communist Party, Rifondazione Comunista, are half as communist as they would want you to believe (which is why at the last general election some of the smaller and more realistically communist parties got a decent enough amount of votes).
  47. avatar Recycled Alien
    If I remember correctly, the Communist Party split into Rifondazione and PDS. PDS then became DS, part of the Olive Tree coalition of Left and Centre parties, which evolved into today's PD. That was what I meant by "descendant".

    I'm sympathetic to the Partito della Rifondazione Comunista (I have their logo stuck on my wall here) but if I was voting, I might support PD for the anti-Berlusconi gesture. The new leader, Franceschini, has been pretty impressive recently on TV, making dignified but cutting marks about morality and personal values when asked about the various Berlusconi stories and scandals.
  48. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    Ah in that sense they are, but a lot of the original Communist Party members in the PDS, now PD, have either left or are just complete jokes (Massimo D'Alema the biggest example).

    On Rifondazione Comunista not too sure. They used to stand for some good things, but they have basically dug their own grave in the past years and now not as many people take them seriously. They just have involved themselves too much with one or two coalitions government and have supported some decisions that were unpopular even by their own supporters' standards. And I know that a lot of people that would have voted them in the past or that thought about it have chosen to go for smaller parties, especially the splinter Alternativa Comunista.

    As for Franceschini, he does look suited for the job and is one of those politicians that knows the ins and outs and is quite competent. But he lacks the charisma and personality to beat Berlusconi.
  49. avatar tenrabbits
    Here lads.. this isn't Rapidofude..
  50. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:dcae68e2fd="feline1"]You're against copyright?[/quote:dcae68e2fd]

    No, I'm against copyright extension.

    Copyright is a limited license to make money from something that you created. After a period of time it reverts to public domain. I have no problem with this and think that 50 years is a pretty good length of time. A patent is only 20 years before it expires.

    [quote:dcae68e2fd]So if I make a recording, when I'm 20, after I'm 70, I shouldn't be able to earn money from it? WTF?[/quote:dcae68e2fd]

    If I build you a wall when I'm 20, should I be able to still charge you for the wall when I'm 70?

    Show me anyone who isn't already a millionaire that this makes any real difference to and I might change my mind. I think its been shown quite convincingly that the only people who will benefit from copyright extensions are the few big name artists and the record companies, at the detriment to the public and the smaller artists.
  51. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:23f1b0f079="POSITIVExYOUTH"]especially the splinter Alternativa Comunista.[/quote:23f1b0f079]

    I saw their election flyer...some twat in tight jeans with a silly fringe and big orange glasses trying to look moody.
  52. avatar feline1
    [quote:9f2c0a4439="my-angel-rocks"] I have no problem with this and think that 50 years is a pretty good length of time. A patent is only 20 years before it expires.[/quote:9f2c0a4439]

    A curious attitude.
    If I write a book or a song, the copyright will subsist in it until between 70 to 95 years after my DEATH. I can thus leave it in my will to my nearest and dearest.
    Why should I not be able to do the same thing with a sound-recording I have made? Why should that creative work have such an order-of-magnitude difference in copyright (to the extent that people can come and take my property *WHILE I AM STILL ALIVE!?* if I live to a ripe old age!)

    [quote:9f2c0a4439="my-angel-rocks"]
    If I build you a wall when I'm 20, should I be able to still charge you for the wall when I'm 70?[/quote:9f2c0a4439]

    If you build me a straw man or a house of cards, you mean?
    What sort of ridiculous analogy is that!?!?
    Brick-layers never own walls they get paid to build.
    If someone builds-and-or-buys a house, they get to own it and bequeath it in their will when they die (a wee bit of tax notwithstanding).
    If you own a house, you can rent it out, you can invite your Aunty round for tea, you can run an illegal brothel from it. I posit my analogy again: when you've lived in your house for fifty years, are you seriously suggesting that spides should be able to come in and evict you, chanting "Right, you've had QUWAITE LANG ENUFF, SO YE HAUVE! IT'S ARRRRRRUOWR TURN NYAOW!!!" ??
    My maternal Granny lived to be 97. Should the state have repossessed her house that she and her late husband had paid off the mortgage on in 1987, and given it to some someone else to live in while spent the last 14 years of her live in a bin?

    [quote:9f2c0a4439="my-angel-rocks"]
    Show me anyone who isn't already a millionaire that this makes any real difference to and I might change my mind. I think its been shown quite convincingly that the only people who will benefit from copyright extensions are the few big name artists and the record companies, at the detriment to the public and the smaller artists.[/quote:9f2c0a4439]

    Well, ME for example. Or anyone else who owns their own recordings. Any ind1e label or artist.
    I am wholly at a loss to follow your logic (perhaps because you don't have any) - how can my legal right to own my recordings for longer than 50 year NOT benefit me, but instead benefit "a few big name artists and the record companies"?!

    If I have some 50 year old recordings which still sell in modest amounts and bring me a wee bit of money in my retirement, that would be lovely.
    Under the current system, however (which YOU want to retain), EMI/Sony/Wallmart/Slater-Nazi or anyone else could suddenly swoop in on my expired recordings, say they're "public domain", and start selling or doing whatever they want with them and pocketing the proceeds, without giving me a penny.
    Any advertising company could come along and use them in a new sales campaign for something I despise, making themselves a fortune, and me not getting a penny.

    I mean, quite frankly, what in f*cking hell are you talking about?!?
  53. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:6cff6444b3="feline1"][quote:6cff6444b3="my-angel-rocks"] I have no problem with this and think that 50 years is a pretty good length of time. A patent is only 20 years before it expires.[/quote:6cff6444b3]

    A curious attitude.[/quote:6cff6444b3]

    The copyright laws are not designed as a system for creators to make money, but to encourage them to create by allowing them to make money for a period of time, rather than just create one thing and live off it for the rest of the time.

    [quote:6cff6444b3]If I write a book or a song, the copyright will subsist in it until between 70 to 95 years after my DEATH. I can thus leave it in my will to my nearest and dearest.

    Why should I not be able to do the same thing with a sound-recording I have made? Why should that creative work have such an order-of-magnitude difference in copyright (to the extent that people can come and take my property *WHILE I AM STILL ALIVE!?* if I live to a ripe old age!)[/quote:6cff6444b3]

    It is only "your property" while the state says it is. The state says it is your "property" for 50 years.

    I don't know why the difference, but I would suspect it is due to the difference in process between the actual author of a piece of music/book and the person who "simply" takes it and writes it down/puts it on a magnetic track.

    [quote:6cff6444b3]If someone builds-and-or-buys a house, they get to own it and bequeath it in their will when they die (a wee bit of tax notwithstanding).[/quote:6cff6444b3]

    A house is a physical object. The laws governing physical and non-physical things cannot be the same. Or compared. When you die, you can leave your loved ones a physical CD if you wish.

    [quote:6cff6444b3][quote:6cff6444b3="my-angel-rocks"]
    Show me anyone who isn't already a millionaire that this makes any real difference to and I might change my mind. I think its been shown quite convincingly that the only people who will benefit from copyright extensions are the few big name artists and the record companies, at the detriment to the public and the smaller artists.[/quote:6cff6444b3]

    Well, ME for example. Or anyone else who owns their own recordings. Any ind1e label or artist.[/quote:6cff6444b3]

    A real difference. A difference that outweighes the negative effects that a change in the law would bring in. But sure, give me a call in 50 years and let me know how much money the Hollow Moon recordings are bringing in.
  54. avatar feline1
    I am coming round your house, to take your stuff.
    You will give it to me.
    THE END.
  55. avatar fastfude
    Am I alone in wondering why, if the election was yesterday (Thurs), the results won't be available till lunchtime on Monday, four days later?

    I know STV is a bit fiddly to calculate, but it's still nothing that an excel spreadsheet couldn't crunch down in a matter of seconds.
  56. avatar feline1
    I think it's because the vote is Europe wide,
    and not all of Europe voted on the same day, as, for example, Greece is still on the Julian calendar,
    whereas in Lithuania it is still 1745.

    still only 7 out of 34 English county councils declared so far, too, lazy feckers - and 6 of those went Tory, arrrrrgh!
  57. avatar fastfude
    and it's all for this:

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  58. avatar Nocarsgo
    [quote:763fec8e53="fastfude"]Am I alone in wondering why, if the election was yesterday (Thurs), the results won't be available till lunchtime on Monday, four days later?

    I know STV is a bit fiddly to calculate, but it's still nothing that an excel spreadsheet couldn't crunch down in a matter of seconds.[/quote:763fec8e53]

    I think all votes are finished by Sunday, so by that stage they start counting. However, there are a few unofficial rough counts going on at the minute which you can find on Slugger O Toole.
  59. avatar fopp
    [quote:e2c37ba95f="feline1"]
    still only 7 out of 34 English county councils declared so far, too, lazy feckers - and 6 of those went Tory, arrrrrgh![/quote:e2c37ba95f]


    The bbc election map is slowly turning almost completely blue. But I guess it could be worse, thankfully the BNP don't seem to have gotten anywhere.

    Edit: Actually, so much blue is pretty bad, but not entirely a surprise.
  60. avatar Crackity_jones
    [quote:b408bc8301="fopp"]Edit: Actually, so much blue is pretty bad, but not entirely a surprise.[/quote:b408bc8301]

    You have to allow for the fact that the Tories do best in large rural areas, and Labour in small urban ones. But yes, Labour do seem to be taking an almighty kicking.
  61. avatar feline1
    Well, everyone of the 34 English councils who were voting has now totted up, except the f(cking d1cks in SUFFOLK, who are probably too busy drinking cider and morris dancing, or whatever it is they do in Suffolk.

    EVERY SINGLE F*CKING COUNCIL went Tory!?!?! ARGH!
    Apart from Bristol (always a nice place to live) which went LibDem,
    and 2 that were (not very well) hung (not least Cornwall, where the SPLITTERS in the Mebyn Kernow neo-leninist celtic alliance independence-for-Cornwall-from-the-oppressive-English party got 3 seats).

    In other /sigh/ news, three more BNP fascists were elected, who if it wasn't for us killing millions of them in the last war, we'd all be speaking German now, etc etc.

    The Green Party rather lamely only managed to get 18 seats. Way to save the planet there, guys! EPIC FAIL!

    Jeezus christ, f(cking fox-hunting Tory bstards! They just don't understand our city ways!
    :x


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/local-election-results-map-2009
  62. avatar 10rapid
    [quote:e52d0444da] 10rapid wrote:
    Also, does his position as a member of the scene compromise his neutrality or will we soon see EU funding for snotty music not belonging to or affiliated with a major record company bands with tight jeans and bad hair?

    Haha, you don't know Aggie terribly well, do you? music not belonging to or affiliated with a major record company? Tight jeans? Bad hair's fair enough though.[/quote:e52d0444da]

    Nah, wasn't talking about him...just his electorate!
  63. avatar Nocarsgo
    It's a shame that Alban didn't get in and that Diane did. But fair play to Agnew, 15,000 first preference votes! Parsley got near 27,000 so well done him as well. :D
  64. avatar T Entertainment
    "That's nothing, famous journalist Niall Stanage's neighbour (Big Ronnie from Tray Elektrannicks) got (in 1993) a christmas card from the UDA."


    What is this Tray Elektrannicks you speak of?
  65. avatar feline1
    That's the Tray Electrannicks on the Donegal Road where coincidentally all the other shops were burnt out apart from Tray Electrannicks and Big Ronnie allegedy fixed the UDA's television sets or sthg.
    But I'm sure international Obama-biographying journalist Niall Stanage could shed more light on such aspects of the Peace Process than I :lol:
  66. avatar tinpot anto
    But wait didn't you have an hilarious encounter with them regarding some musical equipment, which perhaps you could be persuaded to share for the benefit of younger viewers?