1. avatar belfastsceneiskillingus
    My first post!
    hey..

    im fucking sick of reading alt ulster... and also listening to bbc across the line.... are u fucking not?? bet u are if ur not from belend shaft...

    everyone in belfast is championing this scene and its even got into the nme and a few indie mags across the water.. but tbh thers a lot of people right across the board who play in bands and take an interest and wer all seriously sick of this whole belfast shite......

    in my opinion, and i know my music... they whole scene is a ball of fucking shite... i can prb count about 2 bands that are actually worthy.. fighting with wire for 1... the rest.. panama kings?? go get hair cuts and stop ripping off modest mouse.. the singer is terrible and bar his carefully arranged fringe, hes fucked..... the fucker cant sing! tho, i love those yellow little sunglasses!!! ohh!

    ne, way.. give other bands a chance on the ole atl etc... wer all fucking sick of the old kowalski mc gypsy, and panama shites.. i think ill write an old letter into that bbc point of view thingy and complain how lazy paul mclean and co have become.....

    wake the fuck up..... thers better stuff out there.. earn ur handy cash... or maybe its time to sign on lads??? ehhh??
  2. avatar T Entertainment
    [img:cb3b5ed6ee]http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/12/19/128742083309823749.jpg[/img:cb3b5ed6ee]
  3. avatar thepostboxtheory
    I can sense a massive arguement happening!...

    But tbh, you do have some fair points.. maybe taken a little too far?
  4. avatar belfastsceneiskillingus
    yeah.. so do i... ur children are screaming?! why i said? oh, i spent all my money on modest mouse albums and indie clothes in second hand shops.....
  5. avatar belfastsceneiskillingus
    na.. its about fucking time...
  6. avatar blacker
    http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/

    for other similarly worthwhile individual points of view
  7. avatar Sir Bob Gelding
    That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously. Come out from behind your (brand new) username and let's hear some justification.
  8. avatar silvercord
    i love his Username personally, really got himself ready for his post lol.


    I see your point though mate, honestly, but, Your wrong. Dont worry though
  9. avatar Alex-Circadian
    Haha I like this guy :lol:

    I somewhat agree with one or two of your points but accurate interpretation of the rest was obscured by that awful "txt spk".

    Honestly, if you want to be taken even slightly seriously, type properly. It helps a bunch.
  10. avatar belfastsceneiskillingus
    god bless text spk... god bless bbc points of view...
  11. avatar feline1
    I think the best thing would be to get some guns and bombs and lay waste to the Holylands and Ormeau and suchlike, perhaps even annihilating Cregagh and Tullycarnet.

    Retro 70s and 80s stuff is very popular these days, so some indiscriminate killing like in the Olden Days is sure to be artistically valid.
  12. avatar Sir Bob Gelding
    and if you don't like ATL don't listen to it. I'm pretty sure Rigsy doesn't have the time to personally stand behind every potential listener with a billy-club, threatening to break their fingers if they don't tune in.
  13. avatar adamb1026
    Ohhh yeh because I forgot that the NME is at the forefront of music press.....

    It doesnt repeat the same articles every week like pete doherty, the new arctic monkeys, the current arctic monkeys, whats next for the libertines or having the arctic monkeys on the cover.....

    is someone forcing you to buy alt ulst or listen to atl??
  14. avatar belfastsceneiskillingus
    sir gelding or geldof or watever.. are u deaf? its on those v terrible indie topman loving myspaces... skinny top ne one?? its all to hear right for ur royal ears..



    still shite eh?! haha....
  15. avatar belfastsceneiskillingus
    na adamb... i just dont like shite music....
  16. avatar adamb1026
    [quote:321cde0a16="belfastsceneiskillingus"]na adamb... i just dont like shite music....[/quote:321cde0a16]

    yet you read nme.......
  17. avatar belfastsceneiskillingus
    ahh. sure i love it.. those little indie gurlies.. mmmmmm
  18. avatar Sir Bob Gelding
    [quote:8dda742977="belfastsceneiskillingus"]sir gelding or geldof or watever.. are u deaf? its on those v terrible music not belonging to or affiliated with a major record company topman loving myspaces... skinny top ne one?? its all to hear right for ur royal ears..



    still shite eh?! haha....[/quote:8dda742977]

    I'm sorry, can anyone translate this for me? Or add any sort of sense to what this child has just said?
  19. avatar anty2
    Im guessing he is getting at Panama Kings because a few of their tracks do have a modest mouse sound etc. Personally im 50:50 on that band, few good songs few bad ones and everyones got their own opinion ladeda.


    Anyways angry man listen to my band

    [url]http://www.myspace.com/commonbredtrigger[/url]

    We are complete coporate whores who would wank over a kerrang interview 8)

    Even though alot of people may slate this person most of his posts have me in sticthes :lol:


    Much Love


    Toni xx

    p.s. we are on NIchart too dumplings
  20. avatar thesneakybandit
    Is no one else going to comment on the fact that the only band this guy rates from "Belfast" are actually from Derry?
  21. avatar the dirty weed
    you're no McCourt.
  22. avatar feline1
    I am disappointed that violence is not being explored as an option here.

    If killing really is indeed going on, we must therefore conclude that people are - quite liderally - being bored to death.
  23. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    Ahahah pure quality entertainment!

    This guy talks so much shit it's unbelievable (bar one or two valid points). The most hilarious thing is that, besides the fact that the only bands he rates are not even from Belfast, not all of the bands that play in Belfast are from Belfast.

    He says he knows his music, I seriously doubt it.
  24. avatar palrub
    maybe there's just something in the water up here??

    but obviously, given the amount of local exposure over the past few years via unsigned locals getting catapulted into superstardom [fww, oppen., steerclear, ed zealous, v//formation, the answer et al], it's common sense for A&R guffs to look into the demographic and see if they can pinch themselves the next big thing from the same locale - as it's a glaring fact that the bands' rise to professionalism on a musical level is coherent on the community it plays to, no? if nobody went to see them chug out their half-hour sentiments in the first place, well, you know where i'm going.

    ATL plays the music it's sent. send it in if you're that irrate about not hearing dungiven's finest cassette'd blues funk prog odyssey.

    anonymity doesn't validate your point. and let up with the text speak as your hood-jargon is just as anti-intellectual.

    oh, and please... please... diss thon;

    [url]http://www.myspace.com/theshotsmusic[/url]

    we're tapshap lurkin', atl lovin', skinny jean wearin', fructis-stylin' !ndie-fruits that play jangly chords and are partial to a wee bit of panamawww kingz0rz
  25. avatar The Stav
    Some shite music's actually quite qood. So fck of n di u fckn fckr
  26. avatar my-angel-rocks
    i'm just jealous personally
  27. avatar huggy baps
    The new In Prog is amongst us, rejoice!
  28. avatar Thedevilsfavouriteson
    in prog is back as loveisthelaw,at least im pretty sure its him.he sneaked in the back door.

    belfast scene is killing us...if your so pissed off then stop wasting time on here and go do something about it.to be fair tho if your in a band and you want exposure then atl/au etc are the places to go to. i play in a band that is a far cry from radio friendly and AU gave our record a review,a good one at that. ATL played our song,which begins with feedback delay and an airraid siren,not exaclty jangly chords.i understand your anger to a point i mean i dont like all the bands ATL or Au or whoever else promotes but i mean that wont stop me tryin to get my music out through them. my band certainly doesnt feel like we belong to a scene we do what we do for ourselves and cause we love doing and if other people like it then thats cool.whatever scene exists you dont have to be apart of it to get heard or to get exposure if your pissed off about not being heard its probably because your not trying hard enough if your sick of reading about bands you dont like then buy the publication about the bands you do like or start a zine and write about what you have to say or what you think.internet bitchin is so totally pointless.if your sick of something then get off your ass and change it.

    bring on the obligatory slaggin of user name/swears/yer ma etc.

    if you wanna check us out heres the myspace.

    www.myspace.com/diecomply
  29. avatar tinpot anto
    The Belfast scene? THE BELFAST SCENE?

    It's the AUGHNACLOY SCENE that does all the real damage!!
  30. avatar Captain Kennedy
    [quote:569b8e2b7c]An Indie music scene is a localized, independent, music-oriented community. It is commonplace for a city or town to have a punk scene, a metal scene, or many other scenes based on other music genres.[/quote:569b8e2b7c]

    The Belfast scene is no Lurgan scene.
  31. avatar izzys_return
    People like the music and thats that, this guy/girl doesn't and decided to abuse folk about it. If you don't like something avoid it!
  32. avatar Motor Sounds Records
    [quote:fff06bed7e]The Belfast scene is no Lurgan scene.[/quote:fff06bed7e]

    the Lurgan scene isn't what it used to be, I blame the Portadown Times
  33. avatar Orzo
    Surely the best/only way to get seriously noticed is to play gigs in Belfast if you're in NI. Who's going to come and see you and bring a wider audience to you if you played, for example, exclusively in Lurgan?

    It's the same in the movie industry; everyone goes to Hollywood, you're not going to get noticed in Nebraska.
  34. avatar Captain Kennedy
    [quote:2177a1f02d="Orzo"]Who's going to come and see you and bring a wider audience to you if you played, for example, exclusively in Lurgan?

    [/quote:2177a1f02d]

    Can't believe you just said that!

    Lurgan scene is right up there with Seattle, Haight-Ashbury, New York, etc etc
  35. avatar Deestroyer
    Wha? The "scene" is dominated by bands from the North coast, FWW, ASIWYFA, Panama Kings, The Answer are from Newcastle, two door cinema club are from Bangor I think, not sure about a few of the others, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were extra-Belfast residents too.
    And it's not really surprising they play most of their gigs where most people live.
    There are probably more bands in Belfast than anywhere else in NI, but that's also cause its where most people live, and they're hardly running a tyrannical system, as the above point demonstrates.
    There, solved. Easy.

    The Lurgan scene is no Dunmurry scene.
  36. avatar deadonmusic
    [quote:9b5df244e4="Captain Kennedy"]Lurgan scene is right up there with Seattle, Haight-Ashbury, New York, etc etc[/quote:9b5df244e4]

    Just you wait until I move back home during the summer. The new Portadown scene is gonna kick yer Lurgan arses!

    :)
  37. avatar kinta1
    ive seen the scene and say the scene is dead! long live the scene!
  38. avatar clivemcl
    bands who have members from north coast include:

    ASIWYFA
    Panama Kings
    Team Fresh
    Lowly Knights
    The Good Fight
    Under Stars And Gutters
    Strait Laces

    Just so happened they have the sense, and care enough to move to belfast for music. To gig at least if not to live there.

    I doubt Snow Patrol would be big if they had decided to be based in say...Tamlaght O'Crilly.

    I did find ur post amusing. Totally balls, but amusing due to your misquided vigor!
  39. avatar Mutts Nutts
    [quote:c09d8a6296]I'm pretty sure Rigsy doesn't have the time to personally stand behind every potential listener with a billy-club, threatening to break their fingers if they don't tune in.
    [/quote:c09d8a6296]

    judging by the amount of songs that were taken off air due to bad landuage the other night, he obviously hasn't time to listen to the music either. :lol:
  40. avatar don sebestian
    lad. i bet. the reason youre so angry is that, your band. is absolutlely. 100%. complete. and utter. shite.

    i bet, what happened that has made you so bitter, is that you went to a gig in belfast, and someone slagged your bandana and told you to fuck off when you requested 'freebird' at a panama kings gig.

    yet when you go back to your home town, to watch your acdc cover bands, in your local bar full of pirates and paedophiles, its different. they like your bandana, they like your rory gallagher t-shirt, they like the way that, when your band plays -even though you cant light it- you put a cigarette in your mouth before setting off on a 15 min solo during one of the jams between covers. i also bet you were born in 1991 but 'just feel like you were there in the 70's' . And i bet you've watched almost famous every weekend since you were 14, and that my friend, is what has destroyed it all for ya.
  41. avatar Persistence
    Lisburn's live music scene's pretty good, (*all ages gig rant here, you've heard it before, probably from me*) but it can't compare to Belfast. Why?

    Belfarce is the capital city for one, if Lisburn's a city then I'm a Westlife fan. I mean, I love Belfast but I'd like to see something happening in Lisburn because everything's a bit dead...not like the good old days when mojoFURY seemed to play the Island every other week :P

    Most bands have some kind of ambition to 'make it big'; Myspace won't do the job for them, so their best chance at getting seen, getting their name out is to play gigs in Belfast.

    If you're so incensed about the lack of a scene, go create one; promote the bands you love because you love them, not because you hate everything else.
  42. avatar feline1
    what you people are all willfully ignoring is the Carryduff Avant-Gardencentre scene.
  43. avatar noelyg05
    I was present at a packed out limelight last night and I've got to say the Panama Kings whom you think so little of blew the roof of the place. I was with a guy reviewing the gig who hadn't seen them live before and to be honest wasn't overly impressed by the songs on their myspace. However by the end of their set was hooked.

    You are blaming a 'scene' in Belfast for ruining it for everyone else, sounds like jealousy to me. Get off your ass go and watch a few bands, work harder on your own material instead of looking for a scapegoat for why you aren't playing to a packed limelight.

    The crowd and atmosphere at that gig last night was fantastic and surely shows so much positivity to what is happening in N Ireland music at the moment...
  44. avatar MarkAxisOf
    I agree with what your saying.. kind of, altho the belfast scene dosnt annoy me. But there are plenty of other places in NI with great scenes, go out to gigs in different places and see them for yourselves

    Ive been in AU and on ATL with my band www.myspace.com/axisof

    And were from the north coast
  45. avatar Stevie Mac
    I love it when threads like this come along.
  46. avatar The Stav
    I think he's gone. Scundered.
  47. avatar deadonmusic
    [quote:b8dab7e21e="Persistence"]promote the bands you love because you love them, not because you hate everything else.[/quote:b8dab7e21e]

    Youngest contributor to the thread. Most sense.
  48. avatar Deestroyer
    [quote:db182205a4="Stevie Mac"]I love it when threads like this come along.[/quote:db182205a4]Are you trying to say it delivers? I don't think anyone has the right to make such a claim... except one man, and only one man. At least, I think it's a man...
  49. avatar critic_al
    carrick music scene is about to take off, bands are now playing in ownies, watch out

    as for the post, fww are balax so who was this other good band?
  50. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    [quote:a6a32defec="MarkAxisOf"]I agree with what your saying.. kind of, altho the belfast scene dosnt annoy me. But there are plenty of other places in NI with great scenes, go out to gigs in different places and see them for yourselves

    Ive been in AU and on ATL with my band www.myspace.com/axisof

    And were from the north coast[/quote:a6a32defec]

    And also a punk band.

    Which just shows that anyone who is willing enough to put some work into gigging and promoting their own band can get in AU (and Axis Of have appeared now 3 times, if I am not mistaken) and ATL even if they do not play generic !ndie stuff or if they do not play all the big and cool gigs.
  51. avatar isis
    The music scene in Belfast does not start and stop with AU and ATL. Although these are both catalysts for local music just check out what moving on Music do. There's such a range of music genre's in the people they promote here, and the open house festival. I have lived in a few cities and there is a much better promoted range of genre's here. You just have to look for them,

    Pkings and Zealous are the main stream, any part of any scene in any place has a main stream, its not unusual.

    Personnally I love the scene here. It's the only thing that keeps me from moving back to england. The music is good like.
  52. avatar Karl Rove
    [quote:8c790831ba="don sebestian"]lad. i bet. the reason youre so angry is that, your band. is absolutlely. 100%. complete. and utter. shite.

    i bet, what happened that has made you so bitter, is that you went to a gig in belfast, and someone slagged your bandana and told you to fuck off when you requested 'freebird' at a panama kings gig.

    yet when you go back to your home town, to watch your acdc cover bands, in your local bar full of pirates and paedophiles, its different. they like your bandana, they like your rory gallagher t-shirt, they like the way that, when your band plays -even though you cant light it- you put a cigarette in your mouth before setting off on a 15 min solo during one of the jams between covers. i also bet you were born in 1991 but 'just feel like you were there in the 70's' . And i bet you've watched almost famous every weekend since you were 14, and that my friend, is what has destroyed it all for ya.[/quote:8c790831ba]

    Brilliant. spot on id say.
  53. avatar isis
    God isn't it scarey that there are 18 year old born in 1991. That makes me feel quite old. Imagine how door men feel?!
  54. avatar thepostboxtheory
    [quote:255bb90d35="deadonmusic"][quote:255bb90d35="Persistence"]promote the bands you love because you love them, not because you hate everything else.[/quote:255bb90d35]

    Youngest contributor to the thread. Most sense.[/quote:255bb90d35]

    Very True =]


    Some people just don't get what making music is all about. It shouldn't have anything to do with jealously, which i think is seriously what is wrong with this guy's rant. He's JEALOUS.


    p.s 53 replies in about 14 hours, how popular is this thread? :D
  55. avatar huggy baps
    I blame the je..
  56. avatar PaulATL
    Yay, I got a name-check!
    We try real hard to open up as much as possible. Bit of personal beef there chap? Stupid? yes, lazy? nah.
  57. avatar anty2
    and as he flung his arms hardcore dancing into the room he retreats to his dark hole and waits for the anger to rise up again.....
  58. avatar Desus
    [quote:b71dd3bfa4="don sebestian"]lad. i bet. the reason youre so angry is that, your band. is absolutlely. 100%. complete. and utter. shite.

    i bet, what happened that has made you so bitter, is that you went to a gig in belfast, and someone slagged your bandana and told you to fuck off when you requested 'freebird' at a panama kings gig.

    yet when you go back to your home town, to watch your acdc cover bands, in your local bar full of pirates and paedophiles, its different. they like your bandana, they like your rory gallagher t-shirt, they like the way that, when your band plays -even though you cant light it- you put a cigarette in your mouth before setting off on a 15 min solo during one of the jams between covers. i also bet you were born in 1991 but 'just feel like you were there in the 70's' . And i bet you've watched almost famous every weekend since you were 14, and that my friend, is what has destroyed it all for ya.[/quote:b71dd3bfa4]


    I liked this bit! :lol:
  59. avatar PaulATL
    I'm from Carrick btw, and was delighted, absolutely chuffed to hear my old local Owenies is becoming a hub of the music scene in E Antrim *RAWK*
    I remember the lady who lived where the gig space is now, when she used to pop in from her sitting room and clean the ashtrays..
  60. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:7e7bef3236="thepostboxtheory"]He's JEALOUS.[/quote:7e7bef3236]

    I think I love you.
  61. avatar delfuego
    I think its fuggin scandalous that our capital city has a 'scene'. How dare they put on gigs. What the f**k are they thinking?
  62. avatar thepostboxtheory
    [quote:9cbe0dec3f="my-angel-rocks"][quote:9cbe0dec3f="thepostboxtheory"]He's JEALOUS.[/quote:9cbe0dec3f]

    I think I love you.[/quote:9cbe0dec3f]

    I think i'm scared.. cause you're 31 and im 16... lol
  63. avatar smiths_man
    AND SO I READ THIS FROM AFAR...ARRRGHHGHHH. Back in London at the moment but kind of agree with the point of this persons comments. ATL is very bad by the way. If you want to listen to good up and coming bands (from all over the place) then check out Gary Crowley - Londons calling show. Very good indeed.
  64. avatar T Entertainment
    [img]http://images.google.co.uk/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://420.thrashbarg.net/this_thread_delivers_ups_chick_amazon.jpg&usg=AFQjCNGSt_cb-iwahsnzJ3laOP9V7bL6ow[/img]
  65. avatar Sadoldgit
    The biggest problem with the "scene" is the really crap attendance at a lot of gigs.

    Those that do attend seem too bothered about upsetting their nice hair to actually get a bit animated.

    It wasnt like that when I was young, but then again, people these days have more entertainment choices.

    Its perhaps too easy, whereas in pre-internet days, you had to work a little harder for your musical fix.
    I dont think Belfast or anywhere else is killing music, but, I do wonder if our multimedia world is harming gig attendances.

    I couldnt believe how few people were at ASIWYFA and Russian Circles last year in the Black Box....not a bad attendance, but by rights the place should have been bunged.
  66. avatar T Entertainment
    "If you want to listen to good up and coming bands (from all over the place) then check out Gary Crowley - Londons calling show. Very good indeed."


    Why, does he play non-stop Vals, TPO and Rainbow Corner?
  67. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:9962cb679f="Sadoldgit"]The biggest problem with the "scene" is the really crap attendance at a lot of gigs.

    Those that do attend seem too bothered about upsetting their nice hair to actually get a bit animated.

    [/quote:9962cb679f]

    So essentially, it's not so much that you think attendances are bad at gigs, but rather that you think that the people who go are bad?

    So would stopping people you don't like from going to gigs make attendances better?

    I'm 'confuzzled'.
  68. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:f4884e73a7="T Entertainment"]"If you want to listen to good up and coming bands (from all over the place) then check out Gary Crowley - Londons calling show. Very good indeed."


    Why, does he play non-stop Vals, TPO and Rainbow Corner?[/quote:f4884e73a7]

    Ha, funny enough he actually did play us the other week.

    Don't know if he's played the rest of them


    By the way, Smiths man is not my mate, before you say it. :D if he was he wouldn't have mentioned TPO :P , and I don't know who Rainbow Corner are. :lol:
  69. avatar PaulATL
    if ATL is very bad, and your opinion is as valid as anyones of course, then you must dislike an awful lot of NI music. Fair enough like.
    Must we do this every 3 months though?
  70. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:3c22bc28b2="thepostboxtheory"]im 16... lol[/quote:3c22bc28b2]

    That explains why you can distill the myriad possible reasons and motivations behind the existence of this thread into the succinct package of "He's JEALOUS." Its ok, you're only 16, you'll learn there are other emotions in the world. Some people are too far gone for this.
  71. avatar Sadoldgit
    Attendance are poor, teenagers seem less inclined to get sweaty and out of shape than in the past.

    Read the comment Mr Deadlus....I wasnt getting at anyone, just making a comment on how things have changed in the past 15 to 20 years and suggesting that the multimedia age may not just be affecting CD sales, but also live music.
    Stopping people coming to gigs? - wise up.

    Its bad when the boys are in the loos fixing their hair and makeup.....yes, I have seen it.
  72. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:f3c4e539a9="Sadoldgit"]Attendance are poor, [/quote:f3c4e539a9]

    Just don't agree with this, sir.

    I'm not saying yr wrong - as such - but rather that we must have been going to very different gigs.

    Oh well.

    [quote:f3c4e539a9="PaulATL"]if ATL is very bad, and your opinion is as valid as anyones of course, then you must dislike an awful lot of NI music. Fair enough like.
    Must we do this every 3 months though? [/quote:f3c4e539a9]

    Yes.

    Forever and ever and ever.
  73. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:460ceeb01d="Sadoldgit"]Attendance are poor, teenagers seem less inclined to get sweaty and out of shape than in the past.[/quote:460ceeb01d]

    I agree...have you been to the Limelight on a Tuesday night? Not a soul in the place.
  74. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:81cfcc4a10="PaulATL"]then you must dislike an awful lot of NI music.[/quote:81cfcc4a10]

    I know its hard to believe...but such a thing is possible.
  75. avatar smiths_man
    Well I actually think the music scene in Ireland is quite healthy, particularly in Belfast. The point I think the person who started this thread is making was that there seems to be a tendency in certain quarters to promote the hell out of certain bands. Now, I lived in Belfast for 3 months, albeit in Days Hotel. Maybe not long enough to be an authority on the local scene over there which is fair enough. But I went along to many gigs and saw many excellent bands. Some not so excellent though and these were the very bands that were over-hyped. I saw Jackson Cage in the Empire about 6 weeks ago. Brilliant. Breathe of fresh air. Then I went to the Marquee event in the square beside McHughs and watched And So I watch you from afar and was very disappointed. But I can appreciate why some people may like this kind of music. I went along to see bands in Auntie Anns on numerous occassions on many weeknights. I have seen Bands in Pavillion, Limelight, Spring and Airbrake. Many very talented. But I never heard any of these bands on the local radio over there. The 3 bands you mention T-Entertainment (Tin Pot Operation, The Vals and Rainbow Corner) are all bands I have never seen live. That is why I posted a thread on here asking if anyone had seen them. As most people know, what sounds good on MySpace etc might not nessecarily live up to expectations when you see a band live. I also think if Belfast gets its act in order (like Glasgow) and many of these gigs can be moved from during the week to weekends, then all the better. Gigs I attended by unknown/unsigned bands were usually very poorly attended. The main reason of course was that people have to work the next day.
  76. avatar Nocarsgo
    [quote:8aa47f784e="Sadoldgit"]

    Its perhaps too easy, whereas in pre-internet days, you had to work a little harder for your musical fix.
    I dont think Belfast or anywhere else is killing music, but, [b:8aa47f784e]I do wonder if our multimedia world is harming gig attendances[/b:8aa47f784e].[/quote:8aa47f784e]

    Surely our multimedia world is boosting gig attendances? We can check out support bands to see if they're any good before a gig. I'd also be more likely to see a band based on listening to a few MySpace tracks than just word of mouth. I've only recently gotten into the local music scene, but it's a bit easier to separate the shit from the good stuff due to MySpace.
  77. avatar smiths_man
    And by the way - FASTFUDE is great when you have sod all to do at work. :D
  78. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:928fa1dbcf="Nocarsgo"][quote:928fa1dbcf="Sadoldgit"]

    Its perhaps too easy, whereas in pre-internet days, you had to work a little harder for your musical fix.
    I dont think Belfast or anywhere else is killing music, but, [b:928fa1dbcf]I do wonder if our multimedia world is harming gig attendances[/b:928fa1dbcf].[/quote:928fa1dbcf]

    Surely our multimedia world is boosting gig attendances? We can check out support bands to see if they're any good before a gig.[/quote:928fa1dbcf]

    Conversely, you can check out a band before going and realise that they're shit and then you don't go. Its swings and roundabouts really.
  79. avatar PaulATL
    which bands did you not hear on local radio that were excellent? I am not saying we have played them, I am genuinely always on the look out for new bands to play on our show and am interested. We can only play what we are aware of.
    We've played Jakson Cage before, by the way. Pretty good imo, I must agree.
    In fact (edit) we are currently putting feelers out for a JC interview early next month as part of our weekly local unsigned band interview slot.
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  80. avatar thepostboxtheory
    my-angel-rocks ..

    Why do you have to be such a bastard to people? Is that just how you amuse yourself?

    I was making a valid point that even though Panama Kings clearly aren't this guy's cup of tea, he's jealous that they're getting quite a lot of recognition. He wishes his band/his mate's band would do as well as the panama kings.

    For fucks sake, a person can't even give their view on something on fastfude without getting piss taken out of them by one person with way too much free time...
  81. avatar don sebestian
    [quote:2d624a2ae5="Sadoldgit"]The biggest problem with the "scene" is the really crap attendance at a lot of gigs.[/quote:2d624a2ae5]
    Yes i think youre right, however the main problem with belfast is, aside from radar perhaps, there are no venues where people just turn up in the knowledge that a band will be playing - thats why Belfast is a nightmare for any unsigned band comin over from the u.k, everywhere else seems to have bars and venues where people just come, and risk the admission fee in the hope theyll discover a gem. I used to always be bemused at how bands from here, can book a load of gigs in big towns and cities in England. I thought how the hell would thedy get a crowd if no-ones even heard of them? and then i realised, that its only because of belfast that i think like that. Every town outside of here has that one bar that has its perrenial crowd no matter who plays- and those gigs are always the best craic.
  82. avatar Nocarsgo
    [quote:4483548e07="my-angel-rocks"][quote:4483548e07="Nocarsgo"][quote:4483548e07="Sadoldgit"]

    Its perhaps too easy, whereas in pre-internet days, you had to work a little harder for your musical fix.
    I dont think Belfast or anywhere else is killing music, but, [b:4483548e07]I do wonder if our multimedia world is harming gig attendances[/b:4483548e07].[/quote:4483548e07]

    Surely our multimedia world is boosting gig attendances? We can check out support bands to see if they're any good before a gig.[/quote:4483548e07]

    Conversely, you can check out a band before going and realise that they're shit and then you don't go. Its swings and roundabouts really.[/quote:4483548e07]

    But do shit bands deserve audiences?
  83. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:fcd94d18d5="Nocarsgo"][quote:fcd94d18d5="my-angel-rocks"][quote:fcd94d18d5="Nocarsgo"][quote:fcd94d18d5="Sadoldgit"]

    Its perhaps too easy, whereas in pre-internet days, you had to work a little harder for your musical fix.
    I dont think Belfast or anywhere else is killing music, but, [b:fcd94d18d5]I do wonder if our multimedia world is harming gig attendances[/b:fcd94d18d5].[/quote:fcd94d18d5]

    Surely our multimedia world is boosting gig attendances? We can check out support bands to see if they're any good before a gig.[/quote:fcd94d18d5]

    Conversely, you can check out a band before going and realise that they're shit and then you don't go. Its swings and roundabouts really.[/quote:fcd94d18d5]

    But do shit bands deserve audiences?[/quote:fcd94d18d5]

    Of course not, but I'm saying that myspace/t'internet (although I'm not sure thats entirely what was initially meant by the term "multimedia world") can prevent people going to those gigs, therefore "harming gig attendance".

    For some bands having access to their music beforehand helps the band get a better attendance, for some bands it prevents a band getting a better attendance.

    Although, to be honest, if gig attendance is low, I'm not sure that you can entirely blame the punter if the market isn't offering something that they want. (Hark at the free-market capitalist...)

    Personally, I think there are a multitude of problems, one of which is actually too many bands in too small a population (and I don't just mean locally). The global music market has been saturated, and there's not enough people actually interested in music/physically able to go to all the gigs.

    [edit: out of posts]

    [quote:fcd94d18d5]Myangelrocks enjoys copy and pasting ...and being a bastard to people.[/quote:fcd94d18d5]

    Its called quoting, it helps give context to what we're talking about.

    [quote:fcd94d18d5]I think the point that I was trying to make was.......in the old days of the troubles there were fewer gigs in Belfast.
    When ANYONE played, people went nuts for it.

    The net is a great tool for advertising, but, I do think people are going out less...pub attendances are down.[/quote:fcd94d18d5]

    The point that I'm trying to make is that I'm disagreeing with your assertion that no-one wants to go out anymore. The Limelight packs out every Tuesday night with (my casual estimates) 1000 sweaty teenagers, Stiff Kitten does the same on a Thursday (for all Rigsy's faults, he knows that the kids like), and other nights during the week.

    [quote:fcd94d18d5]If you can get a copy, watch the crowd at the Rory Gallagher gig broadcast on the BBC in 1995..and recorded in 1984.
    I was there..and it was the utterly mad, sweaty crazy events that most gigs were in Belfast in the 80`s.[/quote:fcd94d18d5]

    Rory Gallagher, who by 1984 had been around for about 15 years, had released 9 studio albums, 3 live albums and 4 compilation albums...to be honest, I'm not sure you can compare one of his gigs to any local band at the moment.

    Were you at the NoFX gig the other month? that was pretty "mad, sweaty crazy" to be honest and S&A was bursting.

    Yes, I agree with you that gig attendence is low, but I don't think its a local phenomenon (I've been to gigs in London with three well known signed artists on the bill and 10 people in the place), and I don't think its the fault of the 'yoof of today' for being too cool to go out, because all the evidence is not supportive of that theory.

    [quote:fcd94d18d5]I was making a valid point that even though Panama Kings clearly aren't this guy's cup of tea, he's jealous that they're getting quite a lot of recognition.[/quote:fcd94d18d5]

    The argument "He's jealous" is simply an easy way to overlook someone's possibly valid complaints, and is one of the most commonly used techniques on here.

    An MP used it the other week to attempt to ignore why people might be annoyed that he spent 80grand of taxpayers money on having his forest looked after. People weren't annoyed that he was misappropriating the taxpayers money, people were jealous that he had a very very big house.
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  84. avatar smiths_man
    PaulATL - Sorry mate. I didnt mean to be rude or offensive. I have only listened to the show 2 or 3 times so I retract what I said about ATL. I obviously havent heard enough of it. Im sure it is as good as Crowley or the rest. I will give it a good listen from home on the tinternet over here before I go back over to Belfast in July. Maybe what you could be thinking about doing though is sponsoring gigs/festivals for unsigned artists over there. Maybe you do. I dont know. I wasnt aware of any while I was there. Quite a lot of that happens here in London, particularly around Camden
  85. avatar PaulATL
    dont retract it til you've heard it Smithsman! You might be right!

    We do kind of sponsor gigs quite regularly, but its v costly and moreover dificult due to editorial policy to be allowed to just do whatever we want. On July 8th we're doing something a little different, primarily to stop doing what some might consider 'usual suspects' kind of bands. Its Nakatomi Towers, Skibunny and Moon Unit live. None of these bands have played live for us before (skibunny acoustic once afaicr) and they are electro acts. Again this may not be to everyone's tastes, but we're hoping it demonstrates that we're not always banging on about 10 rock bands who we like a lot. The line up also boasts women, those mythical creatures who for whatever reason arent that numerous around these parts. thats not the reason we're doing the gig as that would be crass tokenism and ultimately unhelpful, but it is another positive aspect imo.

    We are also hoping, as part of the Introducing brand, whcih ATL and Rory McConnell on R1 are the reps of in NI, to showcase some bands live in this way in the next while but again there is a lot of compliance to be worked out. The new BBC guidelines are immensely strict. Its not for a lack of desire to do it.
  86. avatar smiths_man
    PaulATL - well that is refreshing. Hopefully these things are going on in the summer months lol. Im in Belfast from start of July til August 28th for work again so look forward to it. By the way, I have also worked in Dublin and music is what I love so wherever I am I always try to check out the locl scenes. I have done it in Glasgow (which is vibrant) and Newcastle (which is not so vibrant. In my opinion, Belfast is in a much healthier state than Dublin so all you folk over there should be proud of yourselves.
  87. avatar Stevie Mac
    Those Panama Kings eh? They can't be trusted to lead the crusade. Of local music.
  88. avatar smiths_man
    They are a very good band. I like them.
  89. avatar Sadoldgit
    Myangelrocks enjoys copy and pasting ...and being a bastard to people.

    Dont rise to his bait.

    I think the point that I was trying to make was.......in the old days of the troubles there were fewer gigs in Belfast.
    When ANYONE played, people went nuts for it.

    The net is a great tool for advertising, but, I do think people are going out less...pub attendances are down.

    Some of it I suspect is because it is so easy to access music.

    If you can get a copy, watch the crowd at the Rory Gallagher gig broadcast on the BBC in 1995..and recorded in 1984.
    I was there..and it was the utterly mad, sweaty crazy events that most gigs were in Belfast in the 80`s.

    People are way too cool these days.
  90. avatar Persistence
    [quote:c0e1b0baca="thepostboxtheory"]my-angel-rocks ..

    Why do you have to be such a bastard to people? Is that just how you amuse yourself?
    [/quote:c0e1b0baca]
    To be honest that's Fastfude a lot of the time; don't take it too seriously...after all, have you [i:c0e1b0baca]seen[/i:c0e1b0baca] the rest of this thread? :lol:
    [quote:c0e1b0baca="thepostboxtheory"]For fucks sake, a person can't even give their view on something on fastfude without getting piss taken out of them by one person with way too much free time...[/quote:c0e1b0baca]
    The original poster may just be frustrated at his view of the music scene, I don't know if I could definitely say it's jealousy or a temper tantrum or what...to find that out we'd have to get inside his mind, which I have to say would be interesting at the very least.
  91. avatar churchwarden
    Rory in Belfast '84 is on the internet:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fojxCy5xeDw[/url]

    Other parts if the gig are also on youtube if you search.

    It was a great show - and Trans had a poster for the gig at their re-imagining old ulster hall concert posters exhibtion that was upstairs during the opening month of the refurbished Ulster Hall. Can't remember who did the new version of the poster - should have really photographed it for nostalgia sake.


    In terms of gig attendance, it did seem to dip last year but appears to have been rising this year, but perhaps that's just the gigs I have been to.

    There are still venues that I would regard as worth just dropping into and taking the risk to see what is on (menagerie + black box).

    On the other hand when you see some of the information that is posted regarding gigs - basically just the name of the band and the venue - you can understand why an average member of the public would think "should I go to the cinema, a pub (with no band or a cover version band) or to see this band X who I know nothing about".

    Final point, yes there are a lot of really great bands playing around Belfast at the minute ( Black Sookie, Cashier No. , Tracer AMC, Boxcutter...) but, as everyone here has no doubt experienced there are nights when you turn up at any of the local live venues and you get something that is out of tune or under rehearsed This is hardly going to get the casual gig attender to turn up at a local band as the assumption is that the promoter / venue has no sort of quality control.

    Hopefully gig attendances will continue to rise (as long I can still get served quickly at the bar and have a table / chair - perhaps I should just book bands for my living room in fiture...)
  92. avatar reilly
    [quote:6a297afe16="Captain Kennedy"][quote:6a297afe16]An music not belonging to or affiliated with a major record company music scene is a localized, independent, music-oriented community. It is commonplace for a city or town to have a punk scene, a metal scene, or many other scenes based on other music genres.[/quote:6a297afe16]

    The Belfast scene is no Lurgan scene.[/quote:6a297afe16]

    I second that!
  93. avatar Danny Lynch
    obviously attendance depends on the band. i think local bands getting good supporting slots for touring bands is an excellent idea. Ed Zealous at Maximo Park, and the colenso boys last weekend at Red Light Company must have won them new support and hopfully thatll increase attendance at gigs of their own.
    having been at the limelight last night i can safely say i dont think ive ever seen a gig so packed for a local band and its a good sign. but not when only one band can achieve this. granted 2door and 6star hotel pulled in some of the crowd, but the majority were there for panama kings. we need to aim for a stage where a good few local bands can pack out venues. I'd say its improving...
  94. avatar clss_act_00
    don't really agree with the last point there. I rarely see any truly poor bands now, any bands i've seen recently have been capable at least, some now overly original or my cup of tea, but it's been a while since i've listened to people strumming (unknowingly) out of tune guitars and playing out of time. One of the local sound guys was telling me recently that it's so much better now than it was a few years back in terms of the quality level of bands
  95. avatar Nocarsgo
    [quote:d26de4c5e0="Stevie Mac"]Those Panama Kings eh? They can't be trusted to lead the crusade. Of local music.[/quote:d26de4c5e0]

    This gem appears to have been overlooked. I tip my hat to you, sir.
  96. avatar critic_al
    [quote:577739f9a2]having been at the limelight last night i can safely say i dont think ive ever seen a gig so packed for a local band and its a good sign. but not when only one band can achieve this. granted 2door and 6star hotel pulled in some of the crowd, but the majority were there for panama kings. we need to aim for a stage where a good few local bands can pack out venues.[/quote:577739f9a2]

    kowalksi sold out the limelight i think a while back

    a bigger event like a single launch + a decent date when students and school children are available + and good publicity = good crowd
  97. avatar adi.feud
    rory mcconnell has a section on his show each week dedicated to bands from different areas outside belfast.

    I would suggest some eyes need dried.
  98. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [quote:e801cff164="Sadoldgit"]
    I think the point that I was trying to make was.......in the old days of the troubles there were fewer gigs in Belfast.
    When ANYONE played, people went nuts for it.


    People are way too cool these days.[/quote:e801cff164]

    I find in Omagh it's really easy to pull a crowd because there's not much gigs put on so people go nuts. this also reminds me of that blog post goodonpaper wrote 'do bands in belfast play too much?'
  99. avatar Danny Lynch
    [quote:a6f5dcea43="clss_act_00"]don't really agree with the last point there. I rarely see any truly poor bands now[/quote:a6f5dcea43]

    i didnt mean the bands were poor.in many cases its a band that just isnt as well known as the panama kings (eg) and so dont pull as big of a crowd regardless of ability/style.
    but as you say the standard has certainly got a hell of a lot better in recent years.
  100. avatar Amz
    I'm from Donegal, lived in Portstewart for years and been in Belfast for about 3 years. Personally, it wasn't till I moved to Belfast that I got the chance to play what I wanted and seen bands that made me go, fcking hell! Yes!

    There's alot more going on... And that's essentially it. It's a hub. It's not just 'bands from Belfast'. In fact, it's mainly bands formed outside Belfast that are doing well, but play in the 'hub' as there's audiences/venues/craic.

    There's no conspiracy. There's no agenda. But maybe the folk of Yakima share you're feelings only with Seattle. Or Hawkesbury with Montreal...And Barnsley must be well pissed at Sheffield...

    Remember this province is VERY SMALL! Much smaller than a state. Elsewhere 'cities' and 'scenes' are many many many miles apart. It's geogrpahy....

    Make good music and it will be played/reviewed/given gigs. It's as simple as that. The hardest part of a band is getting the initial recording to a quality that can do you justice and promote you. But essential. This is where many , possible good bands, fall.

    Also, I've been surprised at the amount of bands who 'wait' to be 'found'. Really, really surprised! Send CDS! Send emails! Just be proactive! Then it really doesn't matter where you're based as long as you're wiling to gig about and promote yourself.

    Nobody cares where you are from if you're good.
  101. avatar churchwarden
    [quote:79f2aa6e21="Danny Lynch"][quote:79f2aa6e21="clss_act_00"]don't really agree with the last point there. I rarely see any truly poor bands now[/quote:79f2aa6e21]

    i didnt mean the bands were poor.in many cases its a band that just isnt as well known as the panama kings (eg) and so dont pull as big of a crowd regardless of ability/style.
    but as you say the standard has certainly got a hell of a lot better in recent years.[/quote:79f2aa6e21]

    I think it was addressed at my comment:

    [quote:79f2aa6e21="Me"]Final point, yes there are a lot of really great bands playing around Belfast at the minute ( Black Sookie, Cashier No. , Tracer AMC, Boxcutter...) but, as everyone here has no doubt experienced there are nights when you turn up at any of the local live venues and you get something that is out of tune or under rehearsed This is hardly going to get the casual gig attender to turn up at a local band as the assumption is that the promoter / venue has no sort of quality control.[/quote:79f2aa6e21]



    [quote:79f2aa6e21="Class Act"]I rarely see any truly poor bands now[/quote:79f2aa6e21]

    Really? There are many more interesting and talented bands around than their used to be, but I would be reasonably certain (based on absoultely no evidence based research) that the average user of this board has heard poor bands in the recent past. The main point is that people on this board are probably more likely to turn up to gigs and be forgiving of faults and problems - the average person in the street is unlikely to be keen to spend their money on an unknown band that may or may not be any good.

    This is why CQAF etc. can get large crowds for local bands because they provide a guarantee of quality control and advertisng that gives some indication of what the band sounds like.

    This makes me sound like I think local music is rubbish - quite the opposite.
  102. avatar Crackity_jones
    It is a good point that most of these so-called 'Belfast bands' have at least one or two members (usually all of them) from outside Belfast. As far as the established ones go, TPO and possibly Oppenheimer (where's Shaun from?) are, but not many others. I think Cashier No.9 are from Carryduff, which is close. If you think of the genuinely big NI bands, Ash, Therapy?, The Undertones (obv), Snow Patrol and Duke Special are all from elsewhere too. Stiff Little Fingers are the big exception there.

    As Amy said, Belfast is a hub and it draws people in from all over NI and further afield. I live here but I'm not from here either. Half (?) of A Plastic Rose are from Sligo!
  103. avatar Persistence
    [quote:36492bf7aa="Crackity_jones"] As far as the established ones go, TPO and possibly Oppenheimer (where's Shaun from?) are[/quote:36492bf7aa]

    Shaun used to work near Newcastle I think, not sure where he's originally from though.

    (Kind of funny how we've not heard a peep from 'Belfastsceneiskillingus' in days. We miss you! Not. :P)
  104. avatar garrexial
    Jesus, I didn't know that Rory McConnell had released 9 studio albums!

    Shit, I guess I read that wrong.
  105. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:eabcb787ed="garrexial"]Jesus, I didn't know that Rory McConnell had released 9 studio albums!

    Shit, I guess I read that wrong.[/quote:eabcb787ed]

    I've got them all on vinyl.

    And he signed them for me.
  106. avatar Deestroyer
    Has anyone got any alternative phrases instead of "the scene", the very phrase irks me to my little bones.
    Even just give it a name, Cecil. That'll do, anything else would do.
  107. avatar Persistence
    [quote:52dabaafab]Has anyone got any alternative phrases instead of "the scene",[/quote:52dabaafab]
    how about a music community instead of a scene? tiny bit soppy, but it might work.
  108. avatar Deestroyer
    [quote:c9ab2f3196="Persistence"][quote:c9ab2f3196]Has anyone got any alternative phrases instead of "the scene",[/quote:c9ab2f3196]
    how about a music community instead of a scene? tiny bit soppy, but it might work.[/quote:c9ab2f3196]It's good, but I'm suddenly really starting to like the idea of Cecil.
    "Yeah, all these bands are just dominating Cecil, and no one else an get a chance in Cecil. Cecil wrecking bastards!"
    Or "That recent band signing is really good for Cecil! Fuck the Cecil wreckers!"
  109. avatar Sir Bob Gelding
    [quote:d981fff831="garrexial"]Jesus, I didn't know that Rory McConnell had released 9 studio albums!

    Shit, I guess I read that wrong.[/quote:d981fff831]


    Yeah it's the only way you can listen to his show if you don't have an FM radio.
  110. avatar Captain Kennedy
    Anyone who was at the recent Last Waltz Revisited gig could confirm.....there's more than one Cecil on the go.....
  111. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:19c1830950="Deestroyer"][quote:19c1830950="Persistence"][quote:19c1830950]Has anyone got any alternative phrases instead of "the scene",[/quote:19c1830950]
    how about a music community instead of a scene? tiny bit soppy, but it might work.[/quote:19c1830950]It's good, but I'm suddenly really starting to like the idea of Cecil.
    "Yeah, all these bands are just dominating Cecil, and no one else an get a chance in Cecil. Cecil wrecking bastards!"
    Or "That recent band signing is really good for Cecil! Fuck the Cecil wreckers!"[/quote:19c1830950]

    But Cecil were a shit band in the late 90s, infamous (in Aberdeen at least) for the lead singer jumping off the stage to have a fight with a 5'6 guy who was making wanker signs at him, and then getting thrown to the ground, at which point the rest of the band walked off stage.

    Cecil probably isn't a good name for it
  112. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:7b2af1d34c="my-angel-rocks"]

    But Cecil were a shit band in the late 90s, infamous (in Aberdeen at least) for the lead singer jumping off the stage to have a fight with a 5'6 guy who was making wanker signs at him, and then getting thrown to the ground, at which point the rest of the band walked off stage.

    Cecil probably isn't a good name for it[/quote:7b2af1d34c]

    I remember people talking about that in awed tones.

    I wish I could remember if I knew the guy or not.

    I probably did.
  113. avatar Chi-Lite
    Fuck sake why does there have to be a scene anyway? I'm all for bands of similar interests and influences getting together, but why do we all have to form a community just cause we l;ive in the same place.

    I mean, I don't feel that i have anything in common with ASIWYFA, or FWW. It's not my kind of tunes, and no doubt they don't like my kind of tunes. Obviously I've nothing against them, I don't know them at all, but why do we have to form a fucking community just because we're both bands?

    I'd rather form a scene with European freakbeat hammond organ bands, or 10 piece psych-funk combos, ya dig?
  114. avatar my-angel-rocks
    I lived with him, and was standing beside him while the incident was taking place. Thats my claim to Aberdonian fame.
  115. avatar isis
    [quote:8ac5a4d199="my-angel-rocks"][quote:8ac5a4d199="Sadoldgit"]Attendance are poor, teenagers seem less inclined to get sweaty and out of shape than in the past.[/quote:8ac5a4d199]

    I agree...have you been to the Limelight on a Tuesday night? Not a soul in the place.[/quote:8ac5a4d199]

    sorry to burst thon bubble but this isn't a gig....its being trapped in hell. (with no live bands just far too many students drinking their 1 vodka and cordial then vomiting it over themselves on their way out)
  116. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:762b725875="my-angel-rocks"]I lived with him, and was standing beside him while the incident was taking place. Thats my claim to Aberdonian fame.[/quote:762b725875]

    Mine is that I was the muthaflippin' KING of the place.

    HOT DAMN!
  117. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:d979c0fb35="isis"][quote:d979c0fb35="my-angel-rocks"][quote:d979c0fb35="Sadoldgit"]Attendance are poor, teenagers seem less inclined to get sweaty and out of shape than in the past.[/quote:d979c0fb35]

    I agree...have you been to the Limelight on a Tuesday night? Not a soul in the place.[/quote:d979c0fb35]

    sorry to burst thon bubble but this isn't a gig....its being trapped in hell.[/quote:d979c0fb35]

    I'm well aware of what it is, but I offered it as a counterpoint to the argument that "teenagers seem less inclined to get sweaty and out of shape than in the past".

    The contents of the Limelight on a Tuesday night (and the plethora of other packed nightclubs the whole week through, in every city across the land), would indicate that teenagers seem to love getting sweaty and out of shape just as much as "in the past". If anything, the amount of teenagers going out seems to have increased since I became aware of the existance of nightclubs in the early 90s.

    My point in all this (and I imagine I've started repeating myself like an old farmer) is that if there is a problem with low gig attendance, the problem may be with the content rather than the (unattending) punters, and to just pass it off with a defeatist 'people just aren't going out as much, so there's nothing we can do' attitude is kind of a cop out.
  118. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:3b05fbe8aa="Steven Dedalus"][quote:3b05fbe8aa="my-angel-rocks"]I lived with him, and was standing beside him while the incident was taking place. Thats my claim to Aberdonian fame.[/quote:3b05fbe8aa]

    Mine is that I was the muthaflippin' KING of the place.

    HOT DAMN![/quote:3b05fbe8aa]

    You were such a badass that your legend preceeded you, and all our days were just waiting for your coming, like a new messiah to the grey city.
  119. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:8d9f768a9a="my-angel-rocks"]

    You were such a badass that your legend preceeded you, and all our days were just waiting for your coming, like a new messiah to the grey city.[/quote:8d9f768a9a]

    And I believe the city has never really recovered from my departure, with all the citizens wearing a black armband to this very day.
  120. avatar my-angel-rocks
    Its more grey than black, and on sunny days its all sparkley
  121. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:ae35e30e33="my-angel-rocks"]Its more grey than black, and on sunny days its all sparkley[/quote:ae35e30e33]

    Not that there is ever any sun there.
  122. avatar T Entertainment
    [img:534717eabd]http://www.news.ucdavis.edu/photos_images/news_images/04-2008/chinese-poster_lg.jpg[/img:534717eabd]


    Translation: "HAIL CECIL! I HAVE MY GLASGOWBURY TICKET! NON ATTENDEES WILL BE LIQUIDATED! CECIL LOVE YOU! YOU HAVE NO NEED FOR FAMILY! THERE IS ONLY CECIL! EVERY RECORD DEAL A VICTORY FOR CECIL AND VICTORY FOR CECIL VICTORY FOR YOU! DISSENTING LIARS MUST BE LIQUIDATED FOR GOOD OF CECIL, GOOD OF YOU! BE VIGILANT FOR JEALOUSY THOUGHT CRIME! HAIL CECIL!'
  123. avatar my-angel-rocks
    -nothing-
  124. avatar Deestroyer
    [quote:1ef623079f="Chi-Lite"]Fuck sake why does there have to be a scene anyway? I'm all for bands of similar interests and influences getting together, but why do we all have to form a community just cause we l;ive in the same place.

    I mean, I don't feel that i have anything in common with ASIWYFA, or FWW. It's not my kind of tunes, and no doubt they don't like my kind of tunes. Obviously I've nothing against them, I don't know them at all, but why do we have to form a fucking community just because we're both bands?

    I'd rather form a scene with European freakbeat hammond organ bands, or 10 piece psych-funk combos, ya dig?[/quote:1ef623079f]
    In short, bands everywhere support every revolutionary movement against the existing musical order of things.
    The bands disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing Cecil wreckers. Let the ruling Cecil wreckers tremble at a band revolution. The bands have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.
    Cecil's Bands Unite!
  125. avatar Chi-Lite
    Sounds like the soundtrack to that [i:4d4a43bbfe]has to be[/i:4d4a43bbfe] a freak-beat hammond organ trio then. Otherwise you're seriously missing an opportunity.
  126. avatar AngelaMOK
    [quote:3c60f8d245="Crackity_jones"]As far as the established ones go, TPO and possibly Oppenheimer (where's Shaun from?)[/quote:3c60f8d245]

    Neither Rocky or Shaun are from Belfast.



    I'm a but late in replying to that but I know the answer!
  127. avatar tinpot anto
    That means that the TPO ARE the Belfast Music Scene!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

    That's what I've been saying all along - it's my clique that you all are jealous of.

    VIVA CECIL!
  128. avatar mr-majestic69
    [quote:8e52cde4a3="isis"]God isn't it scarey that there are 18 year old born in 1991. That makes me feel quite old. Imagine how door men feel?![/quote:8e52cde4a3]

    HORNY AS FUCK!
  129. avatar Deadlights
    MOjOfury, one of northern irelands best bands, are from Lisburn.

    Well, Mike is anyway. Dont know about the rest
    :lol: