1. avatar goodonpaper
    [quote:96249b4283][b:96249b4283]A regularly checked email address[/b:96249b4283]
    Pretty simple, but often neglected. Register an address at Gmail and make sure it's obviously positioned on your social network profiles and website. Either check it all the time or set it up to redirect to a personal account thats checked often - Gmail makes this pretty simple if you look through Settings. If you're in it for the long hawl, consider spending a few quid on a domain name and set up an email account through that.

    [b:96249b4283]A press blurb[/b:96249b4283]
    This should be absolutely mandatory for every new band - always have a short paragraph about yourselves immediately available online. Naturally new bands will have very little to say, but it's something you should always be gradually building on - charting interesting events (EP or album releases, support slots, etc) amongst the typical influences and biographical information. Any decent promoter will be sending out press releases - and its always better to have something factual and detailed that you've prepared personally rather than an unimaginative promoter (hello) dream something up about you. And for the love of God, don't try to be funny, mystical or conceited - it never works.

    [b:96249b4283]Some press shots[/b:96249b4283]
    Spring a few quid and have some decent, hi-res photographs taken. Email a reputable local photographer - there are plenty that specialize in music photography ([url=http://philokanephotography.com/]Phil O'Kane[/url], [url=http://www.pavelware.com/]Matthew Alexander Patton[/url], [url=http://www.grahamsmithphotography.com/]Graham Smith[/url], [url=http://www.gavinmillar.com/]Gavin Millar[/url]) and book a shoot. You might have to write off the better part of a day but you'll be typically be left with a dozen or so shots - which you should upload at hi-res and make blatantly available. Again, invaluable when it comes to press coverage.

    Anything missing?[/quote:96249b4283]

    http://goodonpaper.org/entries/what-you-need/
  2. avatar heartsanddrums
    [img:9eec3bc246]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/428847578_20cf7106eb.jpg[/img:9eec3bc246]
  3. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:b153e96db1="heartsanddrums"][img:b153e96db1]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/161/428847578_20cf7106eb.jpg[/img:b153e96db1][/quote:b153e96db1]

    A Jawa Sandcrawler?
  4. avatar Lap Dog Shuffle
    A good cross-head screwdriver.
  5. avatar rentaghost
    jack leads!

    actually in all seriousness, its brilliant if the blurb on the band is written in the third person and gives concrete facts about the band's most up to date achievements.

    noone really needs to know where you were born!
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  6. avatar remedy malahide
    Don't forget to bring your own toilet roll, saved me on many an occash!
  7. avatar Recycled Alien
    [quote:2d67867df6="goodonpaper"]Anything missing?[/quote:2d67867df6]SOMETHING recorded. Anything. Doesn't need to be studio quality, but should be something you'd be happy for people to listen to without your having to make excuses. And tune your bloody guitars before recording it.
  8. avatar Danny McCormack
    Talent wouldn't be a bad thing for a band to provide for the listener, either. So many times have I seen a band whore themselves to the media without any decent melodies or arrangements, and lyrics that mean absolutely nothing.
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  10. avatar rinky
    [quote:72743fad3a="goodonpaper"] And for the love of God, don't try to be funny, mystical or conceited - it never works.[/quote:72743fad3a]

    I disagree, I just glaze over the bog standard peer-comparison and support slot list press releases by now. It's only those rare ones gunning for 'funny/mystical' that really grab the attention. Much like a personal cv though, you'd better make bloody sure you really are funny/interesting before you make a stab at this, or you'll fall flat on your face.

    [quote:72743fad3a="goodonpaper"]Anything missing?[/quote:72743fad3a]

    A general spirit of experimentation, exploration and fun?, a better record collection?, a spell in the forces? - I dunno, [i:72743fad3a]anything[/i:72743fad3a] that will set you apart from the hordes of dull-minded bands emerging from this country only too eager to prematurely align themselves with the status quo with shabby renditions of this years "i ndie" stars or Q reader fodder that has gone before.
  11. avatar T Entertainment
    Please, make sure your bio is grammatically correct and the spelling is perfect.
    Nothing will sink your credibility faster and it's amazing how little some bands apparently care about this. It screams 'amateur'. If you can't do it, get someone who can to write it!
    Also, don't quote 'reviews' from Fastfude in the press section. All local journalists are familiar with the site and will (no doubt correctly) assume this comment was made by you or your mates.
    Reviews from objective sources published in the press are different. They will be at least given credence.

    Don't bullshit about 'huge record company interest'. Journalists and promoters [i:7ce44a5500]are[/i:7ce44a5500] going to be laughing at you if you do this.

    And yes, like Rentaghost says, no one needs or wants to know that two thirds of you are from Killinchy, apart from the Comber-born guitarist, who is heavily influenced by RCHP, Foo Fighters and Reef. Be as concise as you can.
  12. avatar tinpot anto
    I'm shite at these.

    i think my favourite was the one Marty wrote that's still on here - I don't want to change it.

    Then again no one will give us a gig for love nor money at the moment. :lol:
  13. avatar rinky
    Hire a friend who is handy with words. By deft usage of the English language, it may be entirely possible to fool others that you've heard of more than five bands and don't sound like a horrific amalgam of their worst traits.
  14. avatar tinpot anto
    Actually I think it would read much better if you wrote one for us.

    I have trouble of even thinking of the 5 bands we sound like, when people do it's usually bands I don't listen to.

    Go on :)
  15. avatar Recycled Alien
    [quote:3f14e1ba41="tinpot anto"]Go on :)[/quote:3f14e1ba41]I wrote the one on [url=http://www.last.fm/music/Tin+Pot+Operation]last.fm[/url], although it's now slightly out of date.

    I can guarantee that the spelling is mostly correct and that there are no superfluous apostrophes.
  16. avatar rinky
    [quote:7809848e52="tinpot anto"]Actually I think it would read much better if you wrote one for us.

    I have trouble of even thinking of the 5 bands we sound like, when people do it's usually bands I don't listen to.

    Go on :)[/quote:7809848e52]

    That wasn't at you Anto, merely sound advice for anyone reading this thread.

    P.S. err....The Levellers? :wink:
  17. avatar tinpot anto
    I really liked that one - I adopted it into the EPK actually. Though some people didn't get it.

    Oh sorry ryan - thought you were having a dig there! Actually heard some very similar quips in my time. :lol:
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  18. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:2df35cee29="Recycled Alien"] And tune your bloody guitars before recording it.[/quote:2df35cee29]

    I'll get on the phone to Bob Pollard, Sebadoh, Pavement, and David Bowie ('Young Americans') and tell them to re-record everything because it's out of tune.

    Those time-wasting bastards.
  19. avatar T Entertainment
    Also: never, ever use exclamation marks! For lo, your bio [i:283f99108e]will[/i:283f99108e] come across as having been authored by a gushing half-wit.

    (eg 'They have a brand new sound which can only be described as unique and are going to be massive in 2009!', or 'They have played to packed venues across the country and are now ready to rock *insert name of venue here*!' and 'record company interest is already massive!'
    In fact, avoid the word 'massive' too. Whatever it is, it almost certainly isn't.)

    Unless it is in a quote. And even then it's unlikely to be of any use, as you're probably quoting from The Big Buzz.

    More than one exclamation marks!!!! is immediate bio suicide.
    I have read bios with every single sentence ending like this!!
    And it creates a fucking horrendous impression.
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  20. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [i:9d74444c42]Shoot all the bluejays you want, if you can hit 'em, but remember it's a sin not to listen to Colenso Parade, they don't do one thing but make music for us to enjoy. They don't eat up people's gardens, don't nest in corncribs, they don't do one thing but sing their hearts out for us. That's why it's a sin not to listen to Colenso Parade. [/i:9d74444c42]
  21. avatar Steven Dedalus
    My old band had a bio written by two friends, and it simply read:

    "They look like a bunch of undertakers and smell like a carpet factory. It's like being in the 80s, with a woman in her 80s."

    This was later changed to:

    "Monochrome psychedelia for the walking wounded."

    But I think the original was more truthful.
  22. avatar JonnyTiernan
    In your press release, avoid saying 'They combine their disparate influences to create a sound that is truly unique'. You would not believe the number of times we have saw this phrase.

    Also, have to strongly agree with Chris on the use of exclamation marks. In fact, not only should they be avoided in press releases, but on forum posts too. When people end every sentence with ! it seems like they are repeatedly surprised by their ability to type.
  23. avatar Captain Kennedy
    We put fancy wee stickers in our press packs. I think I saw Jonny Tiernan running about with one stuck to his forehead last week.
  24. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [quote:ab47d0daf9]'They combine their disparate influences to create a sound that is truly unique'[/quote:ab47d0daf9]

    I freakin' love that.
  25. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:85472612ab="tinpot anto"]I'm shite at these.

    i think my favourite was the one Marty wrote that's still on here - I don't want to change it.

    Then again no one will give us a gig for love nor money at the moment. :lol:[/quote:85472612ab]

    Aye, i am brilliant at these, but, like you say, it may not help with local gigs.
    I'd a cracker on for the Bus as well, back in the day
    I'll do yous another one if ya want. :P The rest of the Vals are too shitey to let me do one. :lol: Instead we have some guff about "Fist in the air anthems"....surely that's a bad move too, eh journos? :lol: Desperate, in fact.
  26. avatar exitonline
    Just thought I would add another photographer to the list.

    Mark Hylands; [url]http://www.markhylands.com/[/url]

    The best photographer we have worked with. His work is outstanding and he has worked closely with several major bands including Def Leppard, Metallica and too many others to list. He has also just been rewarded for his great work by being nominated in a worldwide Music Photography Award. Get in touch with him if your looking for any photographs.
  27. avatar David McLaughlin
    I hate band press releases...

    Nine times out of ten they're bloody tedious affairs but they are a necessary evil.

    I'd suggest keeping them short and factual. Provide only the essential details: who you are, a brief summation of anything notable (upcoming releases, headlining shows, tours) and how you can be contacted.

    Be sure to proof read it and edit it, taking out anything that doesn't need to be there.

    No band will ever be sold on the strength of their press release but if you must write paragraphs detailing all your illustrious escapades then yes, be bloody inventive about it and make sure the tone is in keeping with the style of the band.

    Personally, I'd avoid comparisons and attempts to describe your sound too. Do you really want people to think you sound like another band? Do you want to read that in lazy reviews over and over? If so you're probably doing something fundamentally wrong but comparisons can be very misleading and counter-productive.

    Aside from that, make sure it's clean, well presented and no longer than a single page, ideally folded neatly into the CD sleeve. I hate when they stick out of the cases and are folded at weird angles. How hard is it to fold a piece of paper in the middle, twice?

    Overall, try to be as professional as you can and you will usually be treated accordingly.
  28. avatar Gripper Magee
    :shock:
  29. avatar captain a
    ok, theres a lot of valid points on this thread, if you have gotten some music together and are ready to put it out to the public or whatever it has good advice.

    as an aside,

    everytime i see one of these threads though (these threads come up every few months), i think the exactly same thing. MUSIC JOURNALISTS DONT DO ANYTHING ANYMORE. what this thread (which is completely valid by the by) is basically saying in a round about way is:


    [i:87841cd774]
    dearest bands,
    write your own reviews.
    have it on the internet.
    bring it to me.
    stop writing low quality ones that i have to 'edit'.
    i hate editing, its bad enough being a copy and paster. and keep it original, its not going to look good for me if all my reviews are the same.
    if you just made music and didnt waste hours doing press releases, photo shoots, websites and what not, i would not be able to review it as it would involve three things which i am not capable of:

    1: writing about a band from a blank page, using only my own opinion.
    2: reading the text on the cd
    3: writing.
    to be honest dear bands i actually havent done any investigative journalism in years bar reading other music magazines and being near people with advertising behind them, i find this a really comforting status quo (tee hee)
    xxx,
    the majority of people you will be trying to convince to review your music. [/i:87841cd774]
  30. avatar Recycled Alien
    I've certainly seen my own words in print a couple of times with the name of some "music journalist" at the bottom. :roll:
  31. avatar T Entertainment
    You'll find that a lot with local papers (Antrim Times or whatever). Doesn't seem to happen with the News Letter or Irish News and only rarely with the Tele (I am assuming when a sub is throwing an ents page together, rather than one of their specialist music people).
  32. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    Kneel before Zod! heh heh
  33. avatar captain a
    [quote:af506729d6="T Entertainment"]You'll find that a lot with local papers (Antrim Times or whatever). Doesn't seem to happen with the News Letter or Irish News and only rarely with the Tele (I am assuming when a sub is throwing an ents page together, rather than one of their specialist music people).[/quote:af506729d6]

    if that was true in general for journalists in music, this thread wouldnt exist and wouldnt be full of good advice. i would agree that a few of the local music hacks are quite good, and it helps that they are not faceless magazines but actual faces that you will see at gigs all over, but the existence of the thread, and the endless advice pages on writing bio's and the introductions of myspace's and electronic press kits would sort of sway me toward believing its quite a common occurence, and from my side of the table, i really dont expect somone to write anything about what i do unless i'm suppling the music, the pictures and about 3/4 of the content, be it press or interview. a great example would be wired quoting pitchfork qouting wired quoting pitchfork qouted by (insert paper publication here)... if the band didnt write it, one journalist did, and 50 are willing to take credit. see the led zepplin thread for more on this....
    i mean to be pure about it. musicians are supposed to make music. music journalists are supposed to write about it, non?
  34. avatar David McLaughlin
    [quote:2497428036]

    ok, theres a lot of valid points on this thread, if you have gotten some music together and are ready to put it out to the public or whatever it has good advice.

    as an aside,

    everytime i see one of these threads though (these threads come up every few months), i think the exactly same thing. MUSIC JOURNALISTS DONT DO ANYTHING ANYMORE. what this thread (which is completely valid by the by) is basically saying in a round about way is:


    dearest bands, write your own reviews. have it on the internet. bring it to me. stop writing low quality ones that i have to 'edit'. i hate editing, its bad enough being a copy and paster. and keep it original, its not going to look good for me if all my reviews are the same. if you just made music and didnt waste hours doing press releases, photo shoots, websites and what not, i would not be able to review it as it would involve three things which i am not capable of:

    1: writing about a band from a blank page, using only my own opinion. 2: reading the text on the cd 3: writing. to be honest dear bands i actually havent done any investigative journalism in years bar reading other music magazines and being near people with advertising behind them, i find this a really comforting status quo (tee hee) xxx, the majority of people you will be trying to convince to review your music.
    [/quote:2497428036]


    Er, while it's hard to see what (if any) point is being made there, if it's in any way a response to my suggestions then you have misunderstood them entirely.
  35. avatar captain a
    well david, i thought by inserting the text 'as an aside' people might take it as 'an aside', then i was really hopeful that if i put the sarcastic part in italics, people night realise that i was reinterpreting the subject matter in my own sarcastic way, and have some sort of mental seporation from it and real content of the thread. fail?
  36. avatar David McLaughlin
    Fair 'nuff.

    Maybe your sarcasm was just lost on me.

    Can you provide some examples from the thread of what you were talking about?

    I don't see anyone asking bands to write their own reviews. Can you point me to an actual real world review that has copied and pasted from another elsewhere?

    Just curious, like.
  37. avatar captain a
    [quote:36ecf3e109="David McLaughlin"]Fair 'nuff.

    Maybe your sarcasm was just lost on me.

    Can you provide some examples from the thread of what you were talking about?

    I don't see anyone asking bands to write their own reviews. Can you point me to an actual real world review that has copied and pasted from another elsewhere?

    Just curious, like.[/quote:36ecf3e109]

    well yes, i mean really, i've tried in every post i've made to affirm that this is a vaild thread full of good advice.
    The point i am making (i really am predestined to sarcasm as first line of commmunication, for the record) is that musicians shouldnt have to do any of this whatsoever. its just nothing to do with making music, it takes up time, creative energy, it makes them think about things that have nothing to do with making up good riffs or inventing brilliant new sounds. its like using a non energy saving light bulb, same output, twice the input. the reason musicians have to do this preparatory work prior to approaching venues or press or dare i say record labels is that the people who are paid to write about music, namely music journalists, have become used to this idea of the bands writing the bulk of the articles. can you honestly visualise a modern day hendrix spending his tuesday on a myspace??? so the example i will give is:

    "
    A press blurb
    This should be absolutely mandatory for every new band - always have a short paragraph about yourselves immediately available online. Naturally new bands will have very little to say, but it's something you should always be gradually building on - charting interesting events (EP or album releases, support slots, etc) amongst the typical influences and biographical information. Any decent promoter will be sending out press releases - and its always better to have something factual and detailed that you've prepared personally rather than an unimaginative promoter (hello) dream something up about you. And for the love of God, don't try to be funny, mystical or conceited - it never works."

    sorry to quote that in that light, if your a band and want to be reviewed, follow the advice of the first post, if your a journalist, i believe your pen needs chewing.

    ...oh as an edit, and to answer you properly, i went to fighting with wires myspace, copied the first line of thier bio into google and this came up:

    http://www.google.ie/search?q=Fighting+With+Wire+emerged+from+the+ever+creative+Northern+Ireland+music+scene+in+2003&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

    which returned 8 iterations of the same line in my browser.
  38. avatar captain a
    http://daveleejblog.com/2008/11/birmingham-mail-reporter-im-a-bit-of-an-idiot-really/

    a professional journalist, copying and pasting from another site, today.
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  40. avatar rinky
    [quote:c1783b9f2d="captain a"]ok, theres a lot of valid points on this thread, if you have gotten some music together and are ready to put it out to the public or whatever it has good advice.

    as an aside,

    everytime i see one of these threads though (these threads come up every few months), i think the exactly same thing. MUSIC JOURNALISTS DONT DO ANYTHING ANYMORE. what this thread (which is completely valid by the by) is basically saying in a round about way is:


    [i:c1783b9f2d]
    dearest bands,
    write your own reviews.
    have it on the internet.
    bring it to me.
    stop writing low quality ones that i have to 'edit'.
    i hate editing, its bad enough being a copy and paster. and keep it original, its not going to look good for me if all my reviews are the same.
    if you just made music and didnt waste hours doing press releases, photo shoots, websites and what not, i would not be able to review it as it would involve three things which i am not capable of:

    1: writing about a band from a blank page, using only my own opinion.
    2: reading the text on the cd
    3: writing.
    to be honest dear bands i actually havent done any investigative journalism in years bar reading other music magazines and being near people with advertising behind them, i find this a really comforting status quo (tee hee)
    xxx,
    the majority of people you will be trying to convince to review your music. [/i:c1783b9f2d][/quote:c1783b9f2d]




    What you're missing out on in your rant there is this thread was started by a [i:c1783b9f2d]promoter[/i:c1783b9f2d], not a journalist, with a view to laying out what a band should have prepped to get a [i:c1783b9f2d]gig[/i:c1783b9f2d], not a review.

    As you mentioned, this may well eat into your creative time - but you may also agree that time is wasted if nobody gets to hear the end product. Scouring around for mp3s, some half-decent photos and a bit of blurb takes valuable time out of a promoter's schedule and they might not bother, or think twice in future.
  41. avatar deadonmusic
    I'd agree with rinky there. The initial list of "things a band should have" doesn't just apply to getting your name in print or whatever other form of media you choose.

    There is a lot of copying and pasting that goes on in lower level journalism but if you're music is good and well presented you'll soon rise your band above that level and have decent journos coming down to your gigs, getting excited about your music and arranging interviews etc.

    When I was writing reviews and working in the music press I would rarely bother listening to CD's that weren't accompanied by at least a cover letter or a press release... Not because I wanted to copy and paste but because I wanted to hear what the band thought of themselves. Were they going to take themselves seriously enough to warrant that "next big thing" tag or was it just a bunch of no-hopers banging out a few tunes?

    As a promoter amongst other things now I find it important that a band has all those things mentioned in the original post as well as an idea of their tech rider and stuff to facilitate running the gig as smoothly as possible to the benefit of both promoter and band. As was mentioned it wastes valuable time for a promoter, a manager, a lbel, a publisher or whoever may be checking out your work if they have to go to Google, Myspace or Last FM to find out about you when they could easily have it in front of them.

    And if your band isn't as eloquent with presentation and the written word as they are with writing and performing songs then get someone else to do it for you. Whatever the minimal cost is, it'll be worth it in the long run.
  42. avatar captain a
    what part of 'as an aside' dont you people understand?

    like as i made clear already, i made the point as a joke, i was asked to explain it so i did. i didnt say that i was posting some kind of counter argument.
  43. avatar deadonmusic
    My point wasn't really aimed an anyone Captain A.

    There are a lot of bands out there who don't appreciate the need to have a semi-professional pack that can be used to network with all sorts of industry people.

    Like the initial poster I just thought a few tips for newer or more inexperienced bands might help.
  44. avatar captain a
    true bro, true.
  45. avatar gregz
    for me its very handy if bands have a brief bit about themselves on a web site of some discription (written in 3rd person) and a bit of music there too, myspace has been particularly useful in this respect. I will just cut n paste the blurb into web, press and other media. If a band cant be bothered to have a brief write up on themselves why should I do one for them? I've enough to do!!!!! (had to use them!!!!!) :D

    most importantly for getting gigs is to bring a crowd, do whatever you can to get people into the venue because its doesnt matter how well written your blurb is or how well produced your demo is if no one comes you're less likey to get another shot at the venue. Bring a crowd to any venue and they'll give you more gigs regardless of what you have on-line.
  46. avatar Steven Dedalus
    I just want to butt in and say that I don't know of anyone who would just cut and paste a press release to use as a review or whatever.*

    Whilst it's been pointed out that the original intent of this thread was dealing with promoters, I find press releases to be a very useful thing as a journalist.

    They are helpful to check for spelling of people's names (or the ablum title), they have a tracklisting, contact details, gig listings, and they'll have the record label on it.

    The rest is just a load of utter gash which is either disregarded completely, or laughed at and show to others to maximise the mirth.



    *whilst writing this, I recalled a time where the press release made it into a review I've written. I've included an extract below to show the damage a bad press release can do for a review.

    [quote:862efb5dcf]Well, it seems as though someone has found that CD and released it as John Power’s second (SECOND!!!) solo album. The press release indicates that after ‘the whole Cast thing’, John was so disillusioned that he put down his guitar, and stopped writing. Sadly, he picked it up again and treats us to an indulgent and lazy selection of acoustic strum-a-longs that plod about dispensing pearls of wisdom so banal that the keys of my keyboard are disintegrating before they can be used to type this rubbish. Apparently, he has ‘controversially’ decided not to use any cymbals on this album. He also uses a horrible, farty bass on pretty much all the songs. [/quote:862efb5dcf]
  47. avatar David McLaughlin
    I have to say, I'm still reeling from the lack of cymbals on Powersy's second solo record.
  48. avatar thebatgranny
    Saw this a couple of months ago on this very subject:

    http://wiredupni.blogspot.com/2008/08/top-ten-promo-tips.html
  49. avatar rinky
    [quote:a96aff3f47="David McLaughlin"]I have to say, I'm still reeling from the lack of cymbals on Powersy's second solo record.[/quote:a96aff3f47]

    WHAT EVERY BAND SHOULD PROVIDE ...

    #3819 Cymbals
  50. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    #3820 Symbols
  51. avatar tinpot anto
    WHAT EVERY BAND SHOULD PROVIDE...

    #216 9v Battery
  52. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:35596db3e3="Steven Dedalus"][quote:35596db3e3]Well, it seems as though someone has found that CD and released it as John Power’s second (SECOND!!!) solo album. The press release indicates that after ‘the whole Cast thing’, John was so disillusioned that he put down his guitar, and stopped writing. Sadly, he picked it up again and treats us to an indulgent and lazy selection of acoustic strum-a-longs that plod about dispensing pearls of wisdom so banal that the keys of my keyboard are disintegrating before they can be used to type this rubbish. Apparently, he has ‘controversially’ decided not to use any cymbals on this album. He also uses a horrible, farty bass on pretty much all the songs. [/quote:35596db3e3][/quote:35596db3e3]

    Another disgustingly unprofessional review from a so-called "music journalist" etcetcadinfinitum<snip> no latin allowed!</snip>...
  53. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [quote:2f73e98a48="thebatgranny"]Saw this a couple of months ago on this very subject:

    http://wiredupni.blogspot.com/2008/08/top-ten-promo-tips.html[/quote:2f73e98a48]

    From aforementioned link, 'Don't use a cliche band pic'

    [img:2f73e98a48]http://a670.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/31/l_45cb0ed2f5cbaa543eba101458eb8c8d.jpg[/img:2f73e98a48]

    :-D I freaking love that picture.
  54. avatar Crackity_jones
    [quote:1a43d782d2="Mickeycolensoparade"]some hallions and their granda[/quote:1a43d782d2]

    Ha, who's that?
  55. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    I dunno, it's just an example from the blog.
  56. avatar No_Ending
    [quote:424ed6a1d3="exitonline"]Just thought I would add another photographer to the list.

    Mark Hylands; [url]http://www.markhylands.com/[/url]

    The best photographer we have worked with. His work is outstanding and he has worked closely with several major bands including Def Leppard, Metallica and too many others to list. He has also just been rewarded for his great work by being nominated in a worldwide Music Photography Award. Get in touch with him if your looking for any photographs.[/quote:424ed6a1d3]

    good call, from what i have heard about this guy is he is big time, met him once before when he was working with Def Leppard and talked to him for a while before the show, very cool guy. From NI but never really worked here, was taught by Dutch photographer Anton Corbijn, superb website too. Are those shots of your band on his site exitonline?? What did you think of the stuff he did for you guys??
  57. avatar The enfant terrible
    [img:6e52f823aa]http://a670.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/31/l_45cb0ed2f5cbaa543eba101458eb8c8d.jpg[/img:6e52f823aa]

    Here's what that pic tells me about the band:

    Guy on left - musical talent of the band.
    Guy in white - not very good at his instrument but he's their mate and a bit quirky
    Guy posing - He's the front man probs and none of the rest can be arsed doing it. He is a bit of a cock though and none of them hang out with him when they aren't gigging or jamming.
    Guy at right - Owns a van (probably a drummer and they're hard to find).
  58. avatar my-angel-rocks
    I'd go one step further and say "covers band" because thats the only way I can see the young three letting the old guy play with them. they're not going to be cool band of the week with their grandad on drums, so they must know they can get gigs where they don't have to be cool.
  59. avatar exitonline
    [quote:9e5be5a2fa="No_Ending"][quote:9e5be5a2fa="exitonline"]Just thought I would add another photographer to the list.

    Mark Hylands; [url]http://www.markhylands.com/[/url]

    The best photographer we have worked with. His work is outstanding and he has worked closely with several major bands including Def Leppard, Metallica and too many others to list. He has also just been rewarded for his great work by being nominated in a worldwide Music Photography Award. Get in touch with him if your looking for any photographs.[/quote:9e5be5a2fa]

    good call, from what i have heard about this guy is he is big time, met him once before when he was working with Def Leppard and talked to him for a while before the show, very cool guy. From NI but never really worked here, was taught by Dutch photographer Anton Corbijn, superb website too. Are those shots of your band on his site exitonline?? What did you think of the stuff he did for you guys??[/quote:9e5be5a2fa]

    Yep mark has worked with alot of the big hitters and I dont mean just a press pass to take photos at a gig. He usually likes to get to know the bands he works with and as a result he gets unlimited access to the bands he works with. This is most noted in his touring work with Def Leppard and Metallica. He is also the only photographer we have worked with who has trained in all aspects of photography and he doesnt just use a digital camera, he actually prefers to work with 35mm.

    Yes those shots are of us on his website. He has shot a whole load of photographs of us and I can tell you some of the best shots of us are not on his website. We all have some great individual shots of us that Mark took framed for our own personal collections. We will soon be putting up more of his photos on our own website(www.exitrock.co.uk). So if you are looking for great photos we strongly recommend you get in touch with him as he is a great photographer.
  60. avatar Captain Kennedy
    [quote:43b174e93a="Mickeycolensoparade"][quote:43b174e93a="thebatgranny"]Saw this a couple of months ago on this very subject:

    http://wiredupni.blogspot.com/2008/08/top-ten-promo-tips.html[/quote:43b174e93a]

    From aforementioned link, 'Don't use a cliche band pic'

    [img:43b174e93a]http://a670.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/31/l_45cb0ed2f5cbaa543eba101458eb8c8d.jpg[/img:43b174e93a]

    :-D I freaking love that picture.[/quote:43b174e93a]

    Is that you in the white Mickey?? If not, it's your spitting image.
  61. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    The jeans aren't nearly stonewashed enough
  62. avatar nico
    My first post!
    Just adding another photographer, not going to break the bank but great photos. Excellent if you are starting out and need a few Hi-res shots done for promo work. Also available for live work and you can see a portfolio and more at www.nicofell.co.uk
  63. avatar Wakeuphate.com
    And for you who are into that sorta thing. I'm available too. - I'll not post my site cause it's a bloody mess at the moment and hasn't been updated in about a year. but you can find some recent stuff on me flickr.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/8416099@N07/sets/72157603959111870/


    emaaail:
    Mark@wakeuphate.com
  64. avatar whosbainejakey
    All I need is a CD (that plays!) and somewhere I can download a high quality pic from. Maybe a wee note with the names of who plays what and a list of up coming gigs. £50 notes are also welcome.