1. avatar himynameissween
    im really surprised no-one here has posted this:

    [quote:4996267d1b][url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7696714.stm[/url]
    The BBC is coming under increased pressure to sack Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross following their prank calls to actor Andrew Sachs.

    His granddaughter Georgina Baillie told the Sun the pair "should at least pay for what they've done with their jobs".

    Tory media spokesman Jeremy Hunt will say in a speech that Radio 2 was wrong to approve the material.

    The BBC has apologised, and it and the regulator Ofcom are investigating following 10,000 complaints.

    Brand and Ross made a series of prank calls to Sachs, 78, famous for his part in Fawlty Towers. The calls were broadcast on Radio 2 as part of a pre-recorded show on 18 October.

    During the calls, Ross revealed Brand had slept with Sachs' granddaughter....[/quote:4996267d1b]
    even gordon brown has slagged them for it!

    mental!
  2. avatar The enfant terrible
    It was a bit out of order but as for them losing their jobs wise the fuck up. And gordon brown getting involved I'd have thought he'd bigger things to deal with, it must be nice for him to feel the public agree with him for a change (except me of course, but that's because I keep it real).
  3. avatar Mutts Nutts
    I think Sachs has been a paragon of dignity and integrity throughout this.
    Personally, I would make it my life's work to bring about Brand's utter ruination in every aspect of his buffoon's existence. I would also settle for his head on a stick though.
    Just coz he's a twat mind you.
  4. avatar tenrabbits
    Hmm.. a man whose only previous career highlight has been playing a racial stereotype, taking the high ground over a daily mail sponsored bbc bashathon.. neither side seems to be exactly covered in glory to me.
  5. avatar Tiocfaidh Ar La
    RUSSELL Brand and Jonathan Ross are to team up with the corpse of Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother for a new prime-time show.
    The Queen Mother and Dame Thora will finally be able to perform together, suspended on wires
    In the first installment, to be screened on Christmas Eve, Ross and Brand will travel to Windsor where they will remove the remains of their co-star from her tomb in St George's Chapel.

    They will then race back to London where the Queen Mother will be transformed into an elaborate marionette which Brand and Ross will manipulate via remote control.

    Brand will provide the voice of the dead Queen, but has yet to decide between a suitably respectful high-pitched squeak or the deep-throated growl of an obscene Frenchman.
    In later episodes the Queen Mother will dance and perform classic sketches with the dead bodies of Thora Hird, Ernie Wise, Les Dawson and former Man Utd manager Sir Matt Busby.
    The producers are also planning a big-budget finale featuring the late Queen singing a medley from Guys and Dolls with whatever is left of the cast of Dad's Army.
    BBC director general Mark Thompson said: "Russell and Jonathan's National Treasure Corpse Puppets will be the highlight of our winter schedule.
    "I look forward to threatening you all with jail in order to pay their multi-million pound salaries."
    FACT........ :lol:

    THE BBC last night re-established its reputation for quality programming as it unveiled a lavish multi-million pound drama based on the taunting of Andrew Sachs.
    Starring Sir Ian McKellan as the Fawlty Towers actor, the 12-part series begins in 1930s Berlin as the young Sachs and his family flee Nazi persecution.
    Despite anti-semitism and the brutality of John Cleese, Sachs's comic skills make him one of the best-loved actors in television history, before Russell Brand offers to masturbate him into the palm of his hand.
    The series is being produced at Elstree Studios by the team behind Cranford, Little Dorrit and the BAFTA-winning BBC Four show Russell Brand Fucks Your Granddaughter.

    Tony Blair actor Michael Sheen will play Brand, while jumped-up researcher Jonathan Ross will be portrayed by his close friend Sir Ray Winstone.

    BBC director general Mark Thompson said: "I got into this business to make quality programmes about Holocaust survivors being abused by foul-mouthed mediocrities.

    "The Taunting of Andrew Sachs really is the BBC at its best."

    Much of the £20 million budget will be spent on an elaborate dream sequence where McKellen is pinned to his bed as Sheen and Winstone drench him in gin and then masturbate him into a mug shaped liked John Cleese's head.
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  6. avatar rentaghost
    weirdo.
  7. avatar trepanner
    [quote:953db4edd3="tenrabbits"]Hmm.. a man whose only previous career highlight has been playing a racial stereotype, taking the high ground over a daily mail sponsored bbc bashathon.. neither side seems to be exactly covered in glory to me.[/quote:953db4edd3]

    Not just him doing the racial stereotype bit! also the Major, the daft old ladies, John Cleese his'self, and since we're here, Delboy and Rodney, everybody in Allo Allo, and furthermore do fack aff.
  8. avatar 10rapid
    chucky ar la (ulster scots translation for the prods) should get jonathan ross's job. That way they'd be replacing one unfunny tosser with another, decidedly cheaper equivalent.
  9. avatar T Entertainment
    Thanks chucky, I just did a small bit of sick laughing at that. :D
  10. avatar The enfant terrible
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7697040.stm

    Holy shit, brand's just been found dead in his house. apparently he hung himself by the balls. Poor man. Hope the Daily Mirror's happy now.
  11. avatar T Entertainment
    Statement from Mark Thompson, Director-General, BBC



    "I would like to add my own personal and unreserved apology to Andrew Sachs, his family and to licence fee payers for the completely unacceptable broadcast on BBC Radio 2.



    BBC audiences accept that, in comedy, performers attempt to push the line of taste. However, this is not a marginal case. It is clear from the views expressed by the public that this broadcast has caused severe offence and I share that view.



    Since Sunday, I have been in regular contact with the senior executives I tasked with handling this issue. The investigation that I instructed Tim Davie to conduct is nearing completion, and I am returning to London to review the findings and, in the coming days, announce what action we will take.





    In the meantime, I have decided that it is not appropriate for either Russell Brand or Jonathan Ross to continue broadcasting on the BBC until I have seen the full report of the actions of all concerned.



    This gross lapse of taste by the performers and the production team has angered licence payers. I am determined that we satisfy them that any lessons will be learnt and appropriate action taken. I have been asked to report to the Trust's Editorial Standards Committee before the end of this week and will discuss with the Trust the findings of the report and the actions I propose."
  12. avatar The enfant terrible
    Mark Thompson's clearly a bit of a cock then isn't he?
  13. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:a14a577a4e="The enfant terrible"]It was a bit out of order but as for them losing their jobs wise the fuck up.[/quote:a14a577a4e]

    Why shouldn't they? They've done something that is both illegal and brought their employers into disrepute. Both are generally sackable offenses in any line of work.
  14. avatar wannywan
    [quote:ce9edb2769="T Entertainment"]This gross lapse of taste by the performers and the production team has angered licence payers.[/quote:ce9edb2769]

    I'm pretty sure it was The Daily Mail and the whole media furore that angered license fee payers.

    There were two complaints registered as of Sunday 26th October, which pertained to Ross' swearing, not the content of the call. That's out of an average of 400,000 regular listeners. Plus it had been eight days since the broadcast.

    From there it's picked up by the mainstream media and complaints rise by about 1,500 on Monday 27th Oct. Then it's rocketed since then because of the coverage.

    People can't complain if they didn't hear it go out.

    It's like a group of people suddenly complaining now about the Brass Eye Paedophile special, who didn't see it when it aired.

    [edit: here's my source: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7694989.stm[/url]]
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  15. avatar The enfant terrible
    That's a bit hardline. I don't think they did anything all that bad. Brand did shag the girl as she has admitted. What's illegal? nuisance phonecalls? Wise up. The beeb approved broadcasting the phonecalls so they're as much to blame as brand and ross for the incident bringing them into disrepute. Plus I find Brand and Ross funny (if hit and miss at times) so I'd let them off with a lapse in judgement.

    This was a reply to my-angel-rocks. I agree with wannywan.

    Plus andrew sachs only had one good role in his puff which lasted twelve episodes that'd be like callling up keith from the office in thirty years time and "harrassing" a "national treasure"
  16. avatar wannywan
    [quote:1e233e2d49="The enfant terrible"]That's a bit hardline. I don't think they did anything all that bad. Brand did shag the girl as she has admitted. What's illegal? nuisance phonecalls? Wise up. The beeb approved broadcasting the phonecalls so they're as much to blame as brand and ross for the incident bringing them into disrepute. Plus I find Brand and Ross funny (if hit and miss at times) so I'd let them off with a lapse in judgement.[/quote:1e233e2d49]

    QFT.

    I heard it as it went out, then the next day 'cos I downloaded it.

    Didn't think there was anything illegal about it. I also completely forgot about that episode until all this cockwankery about it.

    To be honest his granddaughter's a (satanic) slut so in the words of that family guy character, 'big whoop, wanna fight about it?'
  17. avatar trepanner
    [quote:24956c792e="wannywan"]To be honest his granddaughter's a (satanic) slut so in the words of that family guy character, 'big whoop, wanna fight about it?'[/quote:24956c792e]

    I need fuckheads like you off my planet, stat.
  18. avatar tenrabbits
    [quote:63839278ca="trepanner"]Not just him doing the racial stereotype bit! also the Major, the daft old ladies, John Cleese his'self, and since we're here, Delboy and Rodney, everybody in Allo Allo, and furthermore do fack aff.[/quote:63839278ca]

    As far as I can tell none of the shows you mentioned other than Allo Allo, contain racial stereotypes. So fack aff yerself.
  19. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:cfff045eb0="The enfant terrible"]What's illegal? nuisance phonecalls? Wise up.[/quote:cfff045eb0]

    Technically, yes.

    [quote:cfff045eb0]The beeb approved broadcasting the phonecalls so they're as much to blame as brand and ross for the incident bringing them into disrepute.[/quote:cfff045eb0]

    And so the producer should be sacked as well.

    If someone commits a robbery, should they be allowed off because no-one saw it? I think anyone who pays the licence fee is allowed to complain. In which case, as I don't pay a licence fee, I'll just shut up now.
  20. avatar trepanner
    Well, stepping aside from whether Del-Boy was a racial stereotype, do you feel that insulting one's grandchildren on national TV is a reasonable punishment to expect for playing a racial stereotype on TV twenty years ago? so fack aff squared.
  21. avatar tenrabbits
    [quote:42462499d2="trepanner"]do you feel that insulting one's grandchildren on national TV.[/quote:42462499d2]

    It was a radio show. Have you just speed read the Daily Mail "get angry now" section before launching into this?
  22. avatar tinpot anto
    It would be fair to assume that Brand and Ross were coked off their diddies and thought it would be a geg.

    If we sacked every entertainer for the same crime our TV would consist of Nick Ross introducing re-runs of One Man and His Dog (but only up to 1976 after that the coke use was fierce in the sheep.)
  23. avatar tenrabbits
    "cocaine is a hell of a drug.."
  24. avatar trepanner
    Well, and Drennan, of course.
  25. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:8ed98b69c2="tinpot anto"]If we sacked every entertainer for the same crime our TV would consist of Nick Ross introducing re-runs of One Man and His Dog (but only up to 1976 after that the coke use was fierce in the sheep.)[/quote:8ed98b69c2]

    Whos saying sack them for coke abuse?
  26. avatar wannywan
    [quote:e612660f1f="trepanner"][quote:e612660f1f="wannywan"]To be honest his granddaughter's a (satanic) slut so in the words of that family guy character, 'big whoop, wanna fight about it?'[/quote:e612660f1f]

    I need fuckheads like you off my planet, stat.[/quote:e612660f1f]

    :lol:

    Nice well reasoned point there.

    Stick and stones may break my bones
    But ad hominem attacks show a lack of argument.

    His granddaughter is a failed page 3 wannabe, who is in a group called the satanic sluts. She did sleep with Brand. Her grandfather is hardly going to have though she was the pillar of innocence in the first place.

    [quote:e612660f1f="my-angel-rocks"]If someone commits a robbery, should they be allowed off because no-one saw it?[/quote:e612660f1f]

    Well, if you weren't actually robbed (offended by hearing the show in this analogy) but heard about someone being robbed a week later, can you press charges (make a complaint in this analogy)?

    People have a right to be offended, but not to have a complaint registered if they didn't actually listen to the show, thus getting offended first hand. Most people who complained just heard about it and didn't like what they heard, it's not as if they were in on the Saturday night listening to the show or anything.
  27. avatar trepanner
    [quote:5b74d8662e="tenrabbits"]radio show. Have you just speed read the Daily Mail "get angry now" section before launching into this?[/quote:5b74d8662e]

    OK, ok. Let us be at peace. I was going to level similar criticism at you for the "well, 'e 'ad it coming didne'" feel I extracted from your comment, but when we're both standing shouting "No, [i:5b74d8662e]you're[/i:5b74d8662e] the Daily Mail reader round here", it is perhaps time for me to find a better way to kill time in work. Carry on!
  28. avatar The enfant terrible
    Exactly. Plus leaving a message on an answer phone is a lot different to robbery. So comparing them isn't really relevant.

    I was reply to wannywan. Damn you quicker typer people.
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  29. avatar tenrabbits
    no probs, though if that's the impression you get from what I had written then I haven't written it clearly enough - my problem is that it's been escalated into some kind of "national treasure shat upon" argument by groups with very vested interests. I.e. the Daily Mail. Neither side comes out well, and I'm not including Sachs in that - he's hardly involved in the whole thing, it's the people shouting for him that annoy me.
  30. avatar wannywan
    Yeah, Brand and Ross were out of line, but only [i:05305be789]just.[/i:05305be789]

    This uproar about it is ridiculously over the top though.
  31. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:f51d05add6="wannywan"]Well, if you weren't actually robbed (offended by hearing the show in this analogy) but heard about someone being robbed a week later, can you press charges (make a complaint in this analogy)?[/quote:f51d05add6]

    Stretching the analogy to the breaking point: yes, if they were paying the license fee.

    Or another analogous way that doesn't feel so stretched: If you were a stockholder (license fee payer) in a company (the BBC) and you found out that they were doing something illegal that offended you (making phonecalls to some random person, I don't really care who they phoned), would you have the right to complain?

    Are kiddie porn websites ok because the only people who complain about them have never visited them? The paedos have no problem with them at all.

    Nazis don't complain about that nice Mr Hitler very often.

    This is something that affects the public, because it tells people that its acceptable to phone the grandparents of the girl you slept with the previous week and hurl abuse down the phone. If I was to do that to anyone, I think they'd have a right to be pissed off at me, and if I then broadcast it to 400,000 of my mates who find it hilarious, other people who hear that I did that would think I was a cock as well.
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  32. avatar 10rapid
    i just heard yer wan georgina on radio 2 saying 'if this is what passes as entertainment these days...' No love, entertainment these days is 4 girls in their knickers covered in blood and simulating sex on stage with 666 written on their arses! The only thing more hilarious was the guy who accused her of being 'all over the sun in her gusset'. When i think he meant corset. Clearly the bbc is out of touch with the diversity of female hosiery. Ban them!
  33. avatar tenrabbits
    [quote:a3b2d8fbc9="wannywan"]Yeah, Brand and Ross were out of line, but only [i:a3b2d8fbc9]just.[/i:a3b2d8fbc9][/quote:a3b2d8fbc9]

    I disagree with this too - they were way out of order! Just because the dude didn't do their interview? Ideally this would be handled to the satisfaction of Sachs, as he was the one targeted for the abuse, but it's turned into so much more than that now. Anyway.. sure I'm going to leave it up to better men than myself to decide who to destroy over this, because someone will have to be now.
  34. avatar wannywan
    Russell Brand's radio show isn't analogous to paedophile rings, or German fascist movements unfortunately.

    That's why analogies in general break down at the first opportunity. Unless the analogy is really an example like something very similar happening on another radio show.

    Fact is, if the Daily Mail hadn't picked up on it. The number of complaints would still be two.

    You gotta love media sensationalism.

    Oh, last night on the BBC news, it was shown that Sachs OK'd the portion to be aired before broadcast, but then went on to say he hadn't/couldn't hear the exact words used in the pieces.

    He should be hired by the BBC and sacked immediately for letting this disgusting filth go out.
  35. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:7fcfc1f9e6="wannywan"]Russell Brand's radio show isn't analogous to paedophile rings, or German fascist movements unfortunately.[/quote:7fcfc1f9e6]

    I wasn't suggesting it was. I was not trying to say that they were equivalent.

    I was trying to say that the intended audience for something don't generally complain because they are in agreement with it.

    By this, I was intending to show that it is not true to say that you can't complain if you didn't listen to the broadcast.

    If however, it is true that Sachs did ok it (ITN said last night that he hadn't, which is what I was going on), then fuck it, its his own damn fault.

    I still think Ross & Brand are cocks though.
  36. avatar silvercord
    i heard this when it happened and so far everytime that Johnathan Ross is on that show something is sadi simply because he can, The BBC know that Russell Brand is a risky choice but he's always been that way and i think its just because of the media attention that he is gaining lately that they want the press want something to break him down for, im sure they didnt mean what they said and the assumed it was a laugh judging by the fact that after everytime that they rang Andrew they continually suggested ringing him back, OFCOM are more annoyed at the swearing, its just gone mad, im sure if 'Manuel' actually was really hurt about it he wouldnt gothrough his agents and would be striaght onto the phone to Russell, through the BBC. All in all, it was pretty funny.
  37. avatar wannywan
    [url]http://www.aaronblake.co.uk/audio/podcast/russell_brand/2008-10-18.mp3[/url]

    Here's a link if anyone actually wants to hear the show.
  38. avatar 10rapid
    I just looked at your woman's bebo page. Flip me, they'll not be happy until she's burnt at the stake too!


    Sample comments:
    [quote:8cd1fd775a]U R FUCKING PATHETIC!
    THE WAY THIS IS BEING MADE OUT LYK BRAND HAD SHAGGED AN UNDERAGE GIRL BUT NO, HE'S SHAGGED A SLUT THAT STRIPS FOR PUBLICITY HAVE FUN WITH THE MONEY THE SUN HAS PAID YOU, BITCH! YOU WANT THEM SACKED LOL NEXT JOKE PLEASE! IF ANYONE SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO YOUR GRANDAD ITS YOU FOR BEING A DESPERATE WHORE THAT CANT KEEP YOUR LEGS CLOSED. YOUR GRANDAD HAS A SLUT FOR A GRANDDAUGHTER THAT AINT BRAND OR ROSS'S FAULT IM AFRAID, BUT YOURS!
    [/quote:8cd1fd775a]

    [quote:8cd1fd775a]Sure half the nation now know your name, but half the nation now hate you also. I know I wouldnt piss you if you where on fire. Unless you where already dead, then I'd take pleasure in pissing on you.[/quote:8cd1fd775a]


    Also somewhere else, some guy reckons it's a publicity stunt because Sachs is jewish, his grandaughter's a goth and Ross's wife Jane Goldman is a jewish ex goth.
    The families are closely linked (Goldman Sachs you see...hang on they even run an investment bank!)

    It's a jewish conspiracy! the lizard uber rulers are undoubtedly involved too!

    [quote:8cd1fd775a]


    Posts: 1
    Joined: 28/10/2008
    Status: offline Hang on a minute! I smell a huge stinky rat - not that rats smell that bad. My enlightenment and erudite revelation shall explain all. So please read on:


    Are we all that stupid? Jonathon Ross's wife is Jane Goldman. The Goldman and Sachs families are well known to be 'close'. 'Jane Goldman Investigates', is a paranormal series on British television channel Living and she herself is into gothicism. She was also a lingerie model for Fantasie bras.


    Andrew Sachs's grand-daughter, Georgina Baillie, also models and is a gothic/soft porn model/dancer.
    Halloween is coming up - a perfect time for such gothic modelling and such stunts alike.
    Far too many connections for my liking... or just coincidence? I smell a big stinky rat called P.R. to both sell newspapers and make a bit of serious cash for all parties involved.

    [/quote:8cd1fd775a]
  39. avatar wannywan
    Well those comments are pathetic and do no good to anyone.
  40. avatar my-angel-rocks
    Yeah, thats just shit.
    ITN did enjoy showing lots of photos of her last night though.
  41. avatar rentaghost
    [quote:317284e6ba="wannywan"]

    To be honest his granddaughter's a (satanic) slut so in the words of that family guy character, 'big whoop, wanna fight about it?'[/quote:317284e6ba]

    comments like this, you mean?
  42. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    I'm sick of this manufactured rage. From now on, if you haven't seen or heard a programme, your complaint is worthless. Can we get a system in place to make this work?

    I don't mean folk here, I mean scrotes who read about this, or Brass Eye, Or Jerry Springer: The Opera, in the brain-damage press and ring the Beeb/Ofcom to wail about it. Shut the fuck up. You weren't offended by the programme. You neither say it nor heard it. It's got fuck all to do with your licence fee (y'see, before you read about it in the paper it affected your life not one jot. How annoying is it really) nor the standards of "This Once Great Country (tm)". Shut the fuck up. Get on with your day.
  43. avatar wannywan
    [quote:4ef1c2c539="rentaghost"][quote:4ef1c2c539="wannywan"]

    To be honest his granddaughter's a (satanic) slut so in the words of that family guy character, 'big whoop, wanna fight about it?'[/quote:4ef1c2c539]

    comments like this, you mean?[/quote:4ef1c2c539]

    I guess calling someone who's in the satanic sluts a satanic slut is wholly irresponsible.

    I apologise for calling someone what they call themselves (and make money from).

    I also fully agree that it's the same as threatening her personally on her bebo site.

    I am glad to make this apology to fellow FastFuders, and to the woman in question;

    Georgina Baillie, the [i:4ef1c2c539]satanic slut[/i:4ef1c2c539].
  44. avatar rentaghost
    Brand and Ross have been suspended

    And for the record - its my opinion that the word 'slut' should be viewed in much the same way as the use of the 'n' word or the word 'queer'. If someone wants to call themselves that, then fine, but use of it as a pejorative term by someone else is unacceptable.
  45. avatar 10rapid
    Yeah but if used, not in a pejorative sense but in the literal how does it work?
    Like can i say "I saw the satanic sluts on stage at glastonbury" or Ice Cube was in "Niggaz With Attitude"?
  46. avatar rentaghost
    "I saw 'the satanic sluts'..." clearly refers to a stage act.

    "To be honest his granddaughter's a (satanic) slut" is clearly pejorative, and a poor attempt at humour.

    Its not rocket science.

    also - I thought most people refer to NWA anyway?

    It may be that Ms Sachs is enjoying the media attention towards her somewhat uninspiring career, but I doubt that she realised that private details of her saxual partners would be broadcast on a national radio station when she slept with Brand. She is clearly not the problem here, so there is no reason at all for any misogynistic commments directed at her.
  47. avatar 10rapid
    Yeah, it's well out of order for people to be giving her grief...at the end of the day it doesn't matter if she's an erotic dancer or a maternity nurse. it's her grandfather who was involved, and indeed her grandfather who said very little about it.

    The ire of brand's fans should be directed toward the daily mail if anything.
  48. avatar eatthefood
    all getting rather ludicrous now:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west/7697282.stm

    "Foyle MP Mark Durkan has signed a commons motion calling for Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross to no longer be funded by the licence fee"
  49. avatar tinpot anto
    Mark Durkan needs a f*cking slap if he thinks wasting parliamentary time over reactionary bullshit irrelevance like this is going to get him electoral cred.

    I DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE FUCKING ELECTION FOR ASSEMBLY, WESTMINISTER and EUROPE. GET THESE FOOLS AWAY TO FUCK OUT OF MY SIGHT!!!

    FUCK. ME.
  50. avatar T Entertainment
    The Skibbereen Eagle is watching the Czar!
  51. avatar ayatollah
    [quote:f6252e3722="tinpot anto"]I DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE FUCKING ELECTION FOR ASSEMBLY, WESTMINISTER and EUROPE. GET THESE FOOLS AWAY TO FUCK OUT OF MY SIGHT!!!

    FUCK. ME.[/quote:f6252e3722]

    And vote Brand and Ross in!
  52. avatar beamer933
    Suspended?

    Bad news for Ross. Brand? He wont give a shit about the BBC - He's breaking America, and appearing in several movies soon.

    Both of them could easily just go to channel 4.
  53. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:f49e8f5529="beamer933"]

    Both of them could easily just go to channel 4.[/quote:f49e8f5529]

    Well, when you flush the toilet, the waste has to go somewhere, I suppose.
  54. avatar anty
    brands just about got fired from everything hes been part of
  55. avatar 10rapid
    it'll put brand back on the smack and ross back on the pies i tells ya!
  56. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote:5bcb838de7="rentaghost"]

    also - I thought most people refer to NWA anyway?

    [/quote:5bcb838de7]

    What if you're refering to Eazy E's wicked solo hit Niggaz My Height Don't Fight? I love the bit where it goes "I don't give a fuck I just smoke muthafuckas x 4"
  57. avatar Daithi jasper
    I see Brand has resigned from Radio 2. Probably thinking, I can't be bothered with this caper.
  58. avatar aaronrossi
    I dont get the illegal bit of this - they were phoning him to promote his tv show!

    It is a joke that has got out of hand but a sincere apology and perhaps an offer of a donation to a charity might be enough rather than brand and ross losing their job. I think Russell Brand is a marmite type character and I think he is good at what he does... same with Ross.

    Ofcom should also disregard the 17998 complaints made after the 2 on the airing of the show as people are obviously bandwagoning faulty towers fans and the disgust of them mentioning that sachs granddaughter bunked up with brand! big tickle - a 12 episode national institution! it was just bad taste how he found out! I am sure that I wouldn't like it but sachs knows that they were just being gimps!

    As for the granddaughter going to the Sun! I think that would more say about her character! Hell hath no fury than a woman scorned...

    Lets face it - neither of them will be out of work too long - and with brand breaking america - would he really give a flying fook?
  59. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:f494b81b25="aaronrossi"]I dont get the illegal bit of this[/quote:f494b81b25]

    The Malicious Communications Act (1988[b:f494b81b25][/b:f494b81b25]) Section 1 ([url=http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+Primary&PageNumber=37&NavFrom=2&parentActiveTextDocId=1346417&ActiveTextDocId=1346417&filesize=14135]link[/url]) amended by Criminal Justice and Police Act (2001) Section 43
    ([url=http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts2001/ukpga_20010016_en_4#pt1-ch3-pb4-l1g43]link[/url]) reads:

    [quote:f494b81b25](1) Any person who sends to another person
    (a) a letter, electronic communication or article of any description which conveys
    (i) a message which is indecent or grossly offensive
    (ii) a threat or
    (iii) information which is false and known or believed to be false by the sender or
    (b) any article or electronic communication which is, in whole or part, of an indecent or grossly offensive nature,
    is guilty of an offence if his purpose, or one of his purposes, in sending it is that it should, so far as falling within paragraph (a) or (b) above, cause distress or anxiety to the recipient or to any other person to whom he intends that it or its contents or nature should be communicated.[/quote:f494b81b25]

    simple really.
  60. avatar artofdarkness
    Some sections of the media have been itching for a chance to cut both Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross down to size for being overpaid and overhyped - the Daily Mail couldn't care less about the sensibilities of some old actor, he's just a means to an end.

    The true source of the outrage is Russell Brand's growing success in the US and the £18m pay packet of Jonathan Ross, not what either of them said on a radio show. Russell Brand involved in a tasteless prank involving descriptions of sexual activity? That's what his regular listeners tune in to hear.

    And now we have useless moral outrage over something not very surprising, where everyone gets to ignore the economy for a few days by kicking some overpaid entertainers who weren't doing anything different to what they've always done. Pakistan in crisis? American election? Who cares!
  61. avatar Tele
    Godwin's law.
  62. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote:047503ec5a="my-angel-rocks"][quote:047503ec5a="aaronrossi"]I dont get the illegal bit of this[/quote:047503ec5a]

    The Malicious Communications Act (1988[b:047503ec5a][/b:047503ec5a]) Section 1 ([url=http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+Primary&PageNumber=37&NavFrom=2&parentActiveTextDocId=1346417&ActiveTextDocId=1346417&filesize=14135]link[/url]) amended by Criminal Justice and Police Act (2001) Section 43
    ([url=http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts2001/ukpga_20010016_en_4#pt1-ch3-pb4-l1g43]link[/url]) reads:

    [quote:047503ec5a](1) Any person who sends to another person
    (a) a letter, electronic communication or article of any description which conveys
    (i) a message which is indecent or grossly offensive
    (ii) a threat or
    (iii) information which is false and known or believed to be false by the sender or
    (b) any article or electronic communication which is, in whole or part, of an indecent or grossly offensive nature,
    is guilty of an offence if his purpose, or one of his purposes, in sending it is that it should, so far as falling within paragraph (a) or (b) above, cause distress or anxiety to the recipient or to any other person to whom he intends that it or its contents or nature should be communicated.[/quote:047503ec5a]

    simple really.[/quote:047503ec5a]

    Simple is right, as in it was thought up by and to apply to simpletons. Grossly offensive? Offensive as defined by whom? Could I prosecute call centers making outbound sales?

    Laws like that convince me that the difference between legal and illegal is not the same as the difference between right and wrong. Therefore law=bullshit.
  63. avatar Tiocfaidh Ar La
    THE Madrid government last night sprang to the defence of Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross hailing then as the new heroes of anti-Spanish racism
    Prime minister José Luis Zapatero said the assault on Andrew Sachs was 'measured' given the actor's portrayal of a halfwit Spaniard who thinks a rat is some kind of Siberian hamster.
    Zapatero said Sachs, banned from entering Spain since 1976, was single-handedly responsible for the country's image as a nation of greasy-haired chimpanzees who have to have everything explained to them twice.
    A spokesman for the Spanish embassy in London said: "We've been leaving dirty messages on his answerphone for years.
    "And every Sunday we camp outside his house and chuck handfuls of paella at his front door."
    Spain's biggest newspaper El Pais said: "Senors Ross and Brand are the champions of every waiter who has ever served a table of drunken English tourists who answer all of his questions with 'Qué?' until one of them finally comes out with 'I'm so sorry, he's from Barcelona'."
    Meanwhile, as Russell Brand admitted he had been 'caught up in the money', jumped-up researcher Jonathan Ross was last night told to apologise 18 million times over the next three years.
    The BBC has also offered Brand's £200,000 salary to the Treasury to help pay down the jaw-droppingly out-of-control national debt that everyone seems to think is irrelevant compared to some swear words on an answering machine.

    :D 'My Eeengleesh is very good.........hmmmmmmmmm'
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  64. avatar tinpot anto
    I smell a *comedy* website being plugged in 3...2...1...


    This is good
    [quote:d4d38018f2]information which is false and known or believed to be false by the sender[/quote:d4d38018f2]
    You could find a million ways to put that wee gem to good use :)
  65. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    Thinking about it, though, if they do both get their cards over the head of this, where does that leave us, in general?

    Manufactured hysteria from fuckwitted corners of the press will be vindicated. Those complaining, bitterly, on the Mail's website and the Beeb's "Mash your Keyboard" site are the selfsame arsecandles who'd happily see the Black and White minstrel Show back on a Saturday evening. Who would decry cracks about Muslims, Black People, gay people being left out of a show as the ubiquitous PC, going mad. Who lined up to leave their loving tributes to Dear Ol' Bernard Manning, and remind anyone within earshot how they went to one of his shows, and there was a darkie there, and he seemed to like it. If Ross and Brand are consigned to the dustbin, then these pricks have won, and then, I fear, La Commedia è finita.
  66. avatar BinaryOperator
    Russell has resigned....and tried to take all responsibility.

    This morning on Radio 4 they called him "Russell Bland" by mistake. I laughed out loud.
  67. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    Thing is, Sachs himself has accepted the apologies, has said he'd prefer there weren't recriminations, that sort of thing. Seems to me that the inertia of the bandwagon is too great to be stopped, despite having no fucking wheels.

    I'm no big fan of Brand (can't stick the bastard) nor Ross (grand in small doses) but in the name of all that's good and proper, the fella they apparently annoyed has pretty much said he couldn't give a toss. Perhaps this could be allowed to die quietly in the corner?
  68. avatar The enfant terrible
    No way, keep it going, talk about it, think about it, focus and keep focusing on it or it will die and then we'll have to confront the reality that is this country's economy disappearing down the shitter and we'll have to spend the next however many years working our arses off just to eat cold beans and pay back the credit cards we maxed out back when we thought we've never had it so good.
  69. avatar Tiocfaidh Ar La
    PUBLIC outrage at the treatment of Andrew Sachs boiled over last night as Britain reached a new peak of furious incoherence
    News websites struggled to cope as millions of violently confused readers found themselves unable to contain their angry, ill-informed opinions.

    A BBC spokesman said: "Britain is obviously trying to tell us something but they need to slow down and do their very best to communicate in whole sentences."

    Some of the comments posted yesterday:

    I don't know who these people are or what this is all about but thanks to them I have spent
    the entire morning being violently sick on my neighbour's car. It's a bridge too far. Or is it two bridges not too far enough? Bring back Hattie Jacques!
    Mrs Margaret, Belfast
    How would they like it if someone came into their bedroom in the middle of the night and drenched them in gin and started fondling their legs and then playing with their willy until it made a horrid mess? Not very much, is what I think. Filthy boys. We should kill them with lions.
    jstraw, Derry/Londonderry
    Thankfully I missed this whole sordid episode. When will the BBC do the right thing and repeat in full? I get back from work around six.
    Chewbacca, Holylands
    But the granddaughter though eh? She's not exactly, you know, is she? I mean come on, let's not forget what this is really all about. Exactly.
    Vote D.U.P!
    paddingtonbear69, Dungannon
    This reminds me of the time the Dimbleby brothers phoned me up during 'Any Answers' and offered to wank me into a teapot. I see the BBC hasn't changed one bit.
    Andypandy, Portadown
  70. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    Yes, but the Credit Crunch(tm) won't be affected by folk talking about it, It's as real as anything within economics gets.

    This case, for good or ill, amounts to the Beeb bowing to pressure from half-informed loopers, fed their diet by two organs with a naked vested interest in seeing the BBC fall. The censorship issues it raises are surely valid concerns for a discussion board relating to music and the arts?


    As for the above, I fear that the real comments on the real sites are sufficiently amusing in their choking, incoherent rage and ill-constructed diatribes that spoofing them is redundant.
  71. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:49fabbdce7="The enfant terrible"]
    Simple is right, as in it was thought up by and to apply to simpletons.[/quote:49fabbdce7]

    No, it applies to everyone.


    [quote:49fabbdce7]Grossly offensive? Offensive as defined by whom?[/quote:49fabbdce7]

    The receiver.

    [quote:49fabbdce7]Could I prosecute call centers making outbound sales?[/quote:49fabbdce7]

    You could try. Whether or not the police would listen to you is another matter. But seriously, I'd like to know how you get on.
  72. avatar trepanner
    [quote:1c22ec923b="The enfant terrible"]Grossly offensive? Offensive as defined by whom? Could I prosecute call centers making outbound sales?
    [/quote:1c22ec923b]

    Are you receiving sales calls from call centres dealing in grossly offensive material? If so could you pass my number on to them too please?
  73. avatar Chi-Lite
    I never heard or saw what was said.

    But I'm still gonna blow hard about it...I think they should both get charged. It is illegal to make offensive, sexually lewd phone calls to anybody, particularly saying "I bucked your granddaughter"....that is HIGHLY illegal, and the cunts oughta get flogged.

    like I say, I didn't hear it, so feel freeto correct if that isn't anything like what was said. But if that is more or less what they said, they should fucking get done, it's not on.

    And I haven't been reading the daily mail, but I am sick fucking looking at the cunts on the news. Throw away the key!
  74. avatar trepanner
    Shirley they can only be charged if Manuel wanted to press charges, which he dun't?
  75. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    Indeed. In fact, then, given that they brought the story to the most people's attention, those most responsible for the distribution are the Sun and The Mail, so they should be done.
  76. avatar T Entertainment
    :lol:

    Marty, you could write Daily Mail editorials. Your views on social issues like abortion, gayners and sexually lewd phone calls are completely in tune with that august organ.
    You're the Peter Hitchens of the West. :D

    It's a fallacy that people need to 'press charges' for a case to be brought (all the evidence is in the public domain), but in this instance they're clearly not going to as Mr Sachs doesn't want any more fuss.
  77. avatar wannywan
    [quote:a298abbf57="DontPetABurningDog"]Indeed. In fact, then, given that they brought the story to the most people's attention, those most responsible for the distribution are the Sun and The Mail, so they should be done.[/quote:a298abbf57]

    Exactly.

    8 days sfter the broadcast, there was two complaints. After the Daily Mail and syndicated news outlets got hold of it, 25,000 complaints.

    The Daily Mail should apologise to the BBC. Plus, Russell Brand should be outraged that The Sun is printing his personal information of the sex he had with Manuel's relation who is a satanic slut.

    That's not on, being ridiculed in public and having private matters aired like that. Or is it one rule for one...
  78. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    The Mail's Parent company own 20-odd percent of ITV. The Sun's own Sky in toto. Can't imagine any motivation in taking the Beeb down there.
  79. avatar silvercord
    well thats the end of his radio show anyway, fuck sake
  80. avatar 10rapid
    Apparently ole russ had a portrait of Stalin behind him as he made his resignation speech.
    Touch of class!
  81. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:bbd10cd4e2="T Entertainment"]:lol:

    Marty, you could write Daily Mail editorials. Your views on social issues like abortion, gayners and sexually lewd phone calls are completely in tune with that august organ.
    You're the Peter Hitchens of the West. :D

    It's a fallacy that people need to 'press charges' for a case to be brought (all the evidence is in the public domain), but in this instance they're clearly not going to as Mr Sachs doesn't want any more fuss.[/quote:bbd10cd4e2]

    :lol:

    The classic ridicule by association, eh Chris.

    My God, views on morality and acceptable behaviour! Daily Mail!

    What a lot of ballix :lol:
  82. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote:3bd96078c5="my-angel-rocks"]

    You could try. Whether or not the police would listen to you is another matter. But seriously, I'd like to know how you get on.[/quote:3bd96078c5]

    They'd probably take the same approach as when I was assaulted and when my house was broken into. Namely, shrug their shoulders and say there's nothing we can do.
  83. avatar unplugged
    i cant see the fuss.

    he did bone her.

    and fair play.

    and the waiter bloke has took it on the chin.
    brand will make a glorious comeback.

    i think old rossy and brand are being made out worse than they are due to the tabloids fucking them over. its not aimed directly at them, more the bbc license charging pack of wolves and they are being made scapegoats.

    its ridiculous. yer mans neice grand daughter anyhow is a bit of a girl anyway by the look of it. no stranger to a mutton dagger or so it would seem.
  84. avatar trepanner
    Well if I started coming on, say, this forum, and referring to how I had, for example, "[i:3ed5974d04]boned your girlfriend[/i:3ed5974d04]", you'd probably think it was pretty crude and tasteless.




    Just in case this causes any distress by the way, I must state also that I did [i:3ed5974d04]not[/i:3ed5974d04] "bone your girlfriend".





    I [i:3ed5974d04]made love [/i:3ed5974d04]with your girlfriend.
  85. avatar Tiocfaidh Ar La
    NEWS JUST IN!!!!!!
    SOME of the biggest names in Britain will gather in central London today for the unveiling of the new national mood.
    Prime minister Gordon Brown will be joined by host of celebrities including Steve Coogan, Elaine Page, Sir Bobby Charlton and the stars of All Creatures Great and Small.
    The mood unveiling comes as a poll in the Daily Telegraph found that 68% of Britons want everything to be more like Victoria Wood.
    National mood watchers say the much anticipated new mood will have no time for high salaries, nail varnish and swear words, particularly 'motherfucker' and 'c**t-features'
    The prime minister is also expected to outline plans for a wide-ranging government inquiry into what is and is not funny.
    Tom Logan, national mood detector at the Institute for Studies, said: "The inclusion of the All Creatures cast suggests an early Fifties, austerity kind of mood.
    "We're looking at decency, v-neck sweaters, decency, home made broth, decency and everything being unbelievably tedious.
    "There might be some scope for a bit of cheekiness on BBC1 on Saturday nights. Perhaps Victoria Wood could give a weekly rendition of that song she does about fucking."
    He added: "It will be interesting to see if it works, particularly as most British workers spend their day forwarding emails and videos that make the Andrew Sachs wank fantasy look like Songs of Praise."
  86. avatar The enfant terrible
    It's also pretty tasteless the media regularly informing us who has [i:f689c0169b]made love[/i:f689c0169b] with whom. Yet they are the ones calling for people to be sacked.
  87. avatar tenrabbits
    [img:81aa7fd3a3]http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/martin_rowson/2008/10/31/rowso620.jpg[/img:81aa7fd3a3]
  88. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081966/Even-Russell-Brand-row-raged-BBC-comedians-insulting-Queen.html]And so it begins[/url]

    Frothing the idiots over a three year old repeat, and they respond like the Pavlovian dogs they are.
  89. avatar my-angel-rocks
    Oh fucking hell...
  90. avatar 10rapid
    some of those gags are pretty funny. I must start watching mock the week! Personally i'm more offended by good old cuddly prince philip's cracks about 'chinks' and indians.
  91. avatar tinpot anto
    It would be funny if this starts a campaign to ban offensive humour, seeing as how the Daily Mail's other big bug-bear is "Politcal Correctness is stopping us from being allowed to laugh at our favourite jokes about Indians!"

    If they touch Frankie Boyle I'm gon round there myself and I'll knife the lot of them.
  92. avatar The enfant terrible
    What about Jim Davidson? Bring back Chalkie. Eh, Zebra Crossing, now you see, me now you don't. I :x
  93. avatar comprachio
    One of the UK's most celebrated comedies is Only Fools and Horses which had loads of casual xenophobia and borderline racism in it.

    Delboy's nickname for the Indian Dr. Singe was 'The Turbanator'

    Of course the Daily Mail is all for a bit of xenophobia and racism tho...