1. avatar daveshorty
    (This one's gonna be messy)

    Discuss.
  2. avatar The Ronster
    I have no idea what you're on about.

    A bit of context or something to explain your initial post might help me to decide whether or not it is likely to be messy.
  3. avatar fastfude
    Yes, any more one-word 'discuss' thread openers will be binned.
  4. avatar daveshorty
    oh sorry... maybe i assumed because i'm a film geek that everyone knew about this flick...

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/1017/1224108326057.html
    http://www.hungerthemovie.co.uk/
  5. avatar zebulon
    [quote:6d98499186="daveshorty"]oh sorry... maybe i assumed because i'm a film geek that everyone knew about this flick...[/quote:6d98499186]Knowing about it isn't the issue, it's the loaded nature of not offering any opening opinion of your own that's the problem.
  6. avatar daveshorty
    why? i want to start a thread and i want to hear everyone's opinion. i'm not sure what to think, that's why i started the thread
  7. avatar fastfude
    It's up to you to open the discussion by at least setting out a quote or two (and a link to the source) that describes the subject matter and gives it some relevance to the audience here.
  8. avatar daveshorty
    alright well is it not open now though?
    what do people think about this movie being made and about its release and about the themes of the film etc etc?
    (relevance is, it was the premier last night in the movie house - i thought it was all over the local news)
  9. avatar fastfude
    No idea, I haven't seen it.
  10. avatar daveshorty
    alrite, nevermind!
  11. avatar T Entertainment
    Are the Vichy Government on the soundtrack?
  12. avatar tinpot anto
    up the provies.
  13. avatar Chi-Lite
    I haven't seen it.

    But aye, up the Jon Bons.
  14. avatar T Entertainment
    "up the Jon Bons"

    :lol:

    Nose coffee.
  15. avatar 10rapid
    i'll go see this film but i expect it'll be the usual vanity project from a well meaning english liberal apologist. Up the provies indeed. In fact up all the atheist marxist catholic freedom fighters around the world.
  16. avatar Chi-Lite
    Couldn't have said it better meself.
  17. avatar tinpot anto
    Fackin Peace Process Wha?
  18. avatar PhatBob
    My Granda would have called a sandwhich a 'piece' so I thought the peace process was a guide to gourmet sandwhich making... :cry:
  19. avatar ShowYourBones
    I havent seen it either, apparently theres only 10 minutes dialogue in the whole production, that makes for a strange one.

    In other RA related madness:

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/where-are-the-ira-when-you-need-them--bart-simpson-14006839.html
  20. avatar daveshorty
    i almost had the chance to work on this flick...had a peek at the script and it looks amazing! yeh there's not much dialogue...really moody and artsy etc - it's the director's first feature film, he's actually a turner-prize winning artist type.
  21. avatar nonlogic liam
    [quote:4777e44d7f]I havent seen it either, apparently theres only 10 minutes dialogue in the whole production, that makes for a strange one.

    In other RA related madness:

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/where-are-the-ira-when-you-need-them--bart-simpson-14006839.html [/quote:4777e44d7f]

    Oh dear, they'll never show that episode over here. Sounds fu-cking hilarious though.
  22. avatar pauldoherty
    Anyone ever see the episode where Mr Burns calls U2 Wankers? Or did I imagine that?
  23. avatar 10rapid
    Maybe fellow turner prize winner grayson perry will do a hunger strike piece next. he could make pots from the discarded faecal matter from the dirty protests...

    [img:fd14d06682]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39608000/jpg/_39608553_perrypa3_203.jpg[/img:fd14d06682]
  24. avatar blonderedhead
    [quote:7bbdc68f3f="pauldoherty"]Anyone ever see the episode where Mr Burns calls U2 Wankers? Or did I imagine that?[/quote:7bbdc68f3f]

    Haha, that was brilliant, couldn't believe my ears when I heard it. Such a random thing to hear, and it was at the end of the credits I think, mister burns just popping his head up and calling U2 wankars :lol: :lol:
  25. avatar churchwarden
    [quote:f9a553ae9b]Oh dear, they'll never show that episode over here. Sounds fu-cking hilarious though.[/quote:f9a553ae9b]

    Was this not the episode where bart got drunk at the parade?

    Alas since Virgin Media stopped showing Sky I haven't seen any new Simpsons n ages - really must get round to connecting my PC to the TV at some point so I can catch up with the decent programmes that virgin doesn't show ( though Virgin TV Choice has staterd showing The Wire from the very start, so not all bad... )
  26. avatar savoy truffle
    Last night was a press screening not open to the public. You're inviting people to discuss a film that's not open to the public for a couple of weeks? What's the point in that?
  27. avatar trepanner
    The best thing to come of all this is that mentions of hunger strikes and dirty protests generates a link to Waspfest at the left there.
  28. avatar blonderedhead
    [quote:3b99455b80="churchwarden"]
    Alas since Virgin Media stopped showing Sky I haven't seen any new Simpsons n ages - really must get round to connecting my PC to the TV [/quote:3b99455b80]
    Don't worry the new ones are rubbish, I just tend to watch the 'g'old simpsons seasons 5-9. The new ones are muck, trying too hard to be whacky and almost like family guy.

    What's this thread about again, oh aye hunger, must go tis lunchtime
  29. avatar daveshorty
    shush, savoy truffle
  30. avatar blonderedhead
    I was walking home last night and seen the movie premiere red carpet n all, n instead of people jumping outta limos or watever I seen two ladys jumping outta a wee ford fiesta or something all dressed up with their tickets in hand.

    Although that looked like hollywood to what I had seen earlier on my walk home, a man pissing in a corner down in the busy city center :shock: I was thinking of telling him to wise up, but didnt wanna say anything in case he turned round and sprayed me with piss
  31. avatar pauldoherty
    You can buy the dvd in a wee shop round our way.....shhhh....half of the wikedy wild west has seen it including myself....
  32. avatar Lloyd Dobler
    Have seen it.Amazing film. completely apolitical, beautifully shot, the 17 minute or so sequence is compelling..Probably the best film about Northern Ireland i've ever seen..a few minor gripes but still a revelation of a movie..restored my faith in the british film industry..and really loved the fact that it doesn't glorify what was essentially a very dark time...
  33. avatar fopp
    [quote:d004480491="nonlogic liam"][quote:d004480491]I havent seen it either, apparently theres only 10 minutes dialogue in the whole production, that makes for a strange one.

    In other RA related madness:

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/where-are-the-ira-when-you-need-them--bart-simpson-14006839.html [/quote:d004480491]

    Oh dear, they'll never show that episode over here. Sounds fu-cking hilarious though.[/quote:d004480491]

    Not sure, it's not the first time they've dallied. In that Paddy's Day episode that someone mentioned, where Bart gets plastered, I'm pretty sure that a bomb goes off in a fish and chip shop (with union jacks outside) and then there's a load of figting breaks amongst a load of people who look like leprechauns.

    The u2 and mr burns thing was good, someone told me that it doesn't mean quite the same thing in yankyland. Is that true?
  34. avatar Per
    come on, let's not beat around the bush here. Season 4 of the Simpsons is amazing. Now it's unwatchable.
  35. avatar doctorlilt
    [quote:d455fbba62="ShowYourBones"]I havent seen it either, apparently theres only 10 minutes dialogue in the whole production, that makes for a strange one.

    In other RA related madness:

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/where-are-the-ira-when-you-need-them--bart-simpson-14006839.html[/quote:d455fbba62]

    I actually think that's fair enough really. A typical generalised take on things, that The Simpsons is quite well known for. At least it's bit more accurate than their earlier potrayals of the "Eye-or-rish" in complete green suited, orange bearded Leprechaun form, which, even being from the North, was incredibly annoying.

    Hunger sounds really interesting, I was concerned it was going to be like In the Name of the Father. Which wasn't a bad show, for the time, but I tihnk it tried a wee bit too hard to make, "loveable rogues" of, what were essentially, West Belfast spides.
  36. avatar Sadoldgit
    regardless of the subject matter, 20 mins on one scene with two people talking and nothing else sounds as boring as feck.

    Havent seen it, but TBH, wont be rushing out to do so.
    I remember all too well what a thorougly nasty , terrifying place this was during that period.
    I also remember that around this time, it seemed we had one atrocity after another[involving both sides of the divide], including some friends of my family, so, glorification of fresh history is a bit tart for my tastes.
    I dont think as a society we are far enough beyond it to relfect in a mature manner.
  37. avatar tenrabbits
    If you wanna see a good film about norn iron.. watch Elephant. Brilliant, if brutal.
  38. avatar tinpot anto
    If you want to see a good film about Northern Ireland watch The Battle for Algiers.
  39. avatar tenrabbits
    Haha! Aye anto.
  40. avatar The enfant terrible
    the best film about the northern ireland conflict (and especially the religious nature of it) is Ten Things I Hate About Commandments:

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u1kqqMXWEFs
  41. avatar churchwarden
    [quote:06373fd7da]regardless of the subject matter, 20 mins on one scene with two people talking and nothing else sounds as boring as feck.[/quote:06373fd7da]

    is this not what occurs in a lot of Shakepeare's plays?

    ( though, to be honest his "comedies" are mostly severely unfunny ( with the possible exception of Merrie Wives of Windsor ) - defintely not as funny as early Norn Irish Hollywodd film "a prayer for the dying" which is hilariously awful )
  42. avatar Andrew
    My review's up here:

    http://www.culturenorthernireland.org/article.aspx?art_id=2296

    Interviewed Michael 'Bobby Sands' Fassbender and Stuart 'prison guard' Graham today for the News Letter. Nice blokes. Great film.
  43. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote="churchwarden"][quote:21e432ab2a]
    defintely not as funny as early Norn Irish Hollywodd film "a prayer for the dying" which is hilariously awful )[/quote:21e432ab2a]

    c'est gash.
  44. avatar bottleofsmoke
    It certainly deserves all the awards, praise & standing ovations it's got so far in my book. There's no side taking from the director here, just the grim, dark facts. I thought the 20 minute scene with Bobby Sands and the priest was spellbounding.

    It will be too dark for some tastes, but give it a bash anyway folks. And great review Andrew.
  45. avatar supershedseven
    Best thing ever made in belfast that made it to tv..... You Me, And Marley.

    Best Series... Pulling Moves.

    :lol:
  46. avatar whipchorus
    Hopefully see this soon....nobody spoil the ending for me.
  47. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    Best film about Northern Ireland = Wingnut & The Sprog
  48. avatar Per
    Busker and Barney
  49. avatar Chi-Lite
    Sky High
  50. avatar 10rapid
    I don't suppose anyone knows of a torrent for eureka street or has the old videos lying around?
  51. avatar T Entertainment
    Didn't really like the series (although it was a cut above the usual NI balls) but what a book. The bomb chapter is stunning.
  52. avatar colin
    aye, only read eureka street during the summer there. thought it was a bit hit and miss, tbh, but that bomb chapter was a tremendous bit of writing.
  53. avatar T Entertainment
    It's an odd book ,which despite flashes of genius, just runs out of steam about two thirds through and staggers to the end. But that chapter is a masterful and genuinely moving account of what a bomb actually does and an indictment of the bombers' attitude to the rest of us poor f*ckers, who are just getting on with it when their Big Plan intervenes.
    The bomb story comes suddenly out of nowhere, wrecking hundreds of plot-inconsequential lives, then quickly recedes and I suppose that's the point.
  54. avatar merten_4_mcguffin
    'mickeybo and me' is a brilliant film with trouble themes...
  55. avatar The Grace Jones
    [quote:825bca2b26="10rapid"]I don't suppose anyone knows of a torrent for eureka street or has the old videos lying around?[/quote:825bca2b26]

    I have it on video I think. My sister was the barmaid in it.
  56. avatar Strong Reaction
    If it contains Zombies and Kurt Russell I'll give it a watch.
  57. avatar tinpot anto
    But with their tanks and their guns and their bombs and their, er, guns, in their head, in their head they're still fighting. They're Zo-om-bies ah eh ah eh ah eh ah eh ah oh ah oh ah oh ah oh ah eh ah oh ah eh ah oh ah eh.
  58. avatar november kyle
    I think Accelerator deserves a mention in this thread. Has the sectarian division of our country, the Paddy/Nordie divide, and the reckless, enthusiastic nature of lower-class joyriding ever been documented in such a high-brow, enjoyable fashion? Doubtful.

    Plus the protagonists have vibrant names such as Johnny T, Whacher, Spock and Gash. IMDB also recognises a 'Hood 1' and 'Hood 2'. Realism coming out the arse. Ken Loach eat your heart out.

    [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0193701/[/url]
  59. avatar daveshorty
    Saw Hunger.
    Fuckin beezer.
  60. avatar Sadoldgit
    saw hunger

    Unimpressed.

    I suspect if you come at it with a "sympathetic" viewpoint for the protagonists, it will float your boat.
    To me it was was slow , self indulgent, and didnt leave me feeling any less sympathy for the hunger strikers, than I did at the time.

    No doubt , if you are a card carrying, died in the wool republican , it would be right up your street, but I have no more empathy for them that I do for Michael Stone and his pals.

    They may have thought their holy war was honourable.
    Some of us certainly dont, and I am referring to terrorist hoods of green and blue hues.
    A plague on them all.
  61. avatar churchwarden
    Surely it isn't supposed to be sympathetic - Steve McQueen has said:

    [quote:290e037204] "This is not a pro-IRA film. Neither is it pro-establishment. Far from it. I just believe that there are rarely people in this world who are all, 100 per cent of them, bad. People just do extraordinarily unexpected things in extraordinarily unexpected times and places."[/quote:290e037204]

    If this film reminds our politicans of what Northern Ireland was like in the near past, perhaps it would focus their minds on doing their jobs and not heading slowly back to the 70s / 80s with a continual round of recriminations.

    Hopefully the Terri Hooley movie will give a more rounded picture of Belfast than the various hollywood / arthouse versions that have appeared over the last 20 years
  62. avatar daveshorty
    it's not designed to induce sympathy... i didn't come away thinking bobby sands was any more saintly... it's just a good filmic study of the process of starving yourself to death etc... it's more a stand-back-and-discuss-things flick rather than an up-close-and-personal-heart-string-tugging film.