1. avatar TheJaneBradfords
    Now Mac laptops don't have only one mouse button anymore... they don't have one at all!!!

    http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
  2. avatar bandwidth
    damn, now i only have a few more months before it becomes embarrassing to take my (now old) macbook out in public. Damn you apple.

    think i'll go down to victoria square tomorrow, for no particular reason.........
  3. avatar ahhaa
    Only one firewire port!! That will not be a popular thing but apart from that wow!!!
  4. avatar TheJaneBradfords
    lol bandwidth

    I now have an old 24inch imac and old macbook pro. Feel wick;)
  5. avatar Lap Dog Shuffle
    [quote:21bc2959d7="bandwidth"]damn, now i only have a few more months before it becomes embarrassing to take my (now old) macbook out in public. Damn you apple.[/quote:21bc2959d7]Use those first few months wisely. I will mostly be laughing at people who buy the first gen model and their impending technical problems. I haven't even started re-paying my MacBook yet :cry:
  6. avatar himynameissween
    *cries, macless*
  7. avatar rl
    They look class, and will be super quick ...but WTF no firewire on the Macbook????
    So i can't use my external hard drive OR audio interface?
  8. avatar fastfude
    I'm glad they got rid of the mechanical latch for the lid. It's been top of my list of Things To Change since I got this one. It always felt wrong needing two hands (and a fingernail) to open the thing.

    Can't say I have ever used my FW port so I'm not going to miss that, though musicians will obviously have more cause for concern there.

    Glass-fronted LED display looks nice too.
  9. avatar The Ronster
    [quote:f965e4ed56="fastfude"]Can't say I have ever used my FW port so I'm not going to miss that, though musicians will obviously have more cause for concern there.[/quote:f965e4ed56]

    Well, musicians, anyone wanting to load footage in from a decent video camera or anyone who has a daisy-chained series of FireWire drives (4, totalling 2.5TB).

    The fact that my now bottom of the range MacBook can do all the above gives me pause...
  10. avatar Pete
    I was going to treat myself to a Macbook for Christmas but no firewire has just bumped that plan into touch.
  11. avatar goodonpaper
    For those wanting to gawk, they'll be in the Apple Store from Friday, apparently.
  12. avatar rinky
    Ugly looking things - the screen looks nice but I really don't like the black keys/aluminium combo. Not convinced there's much call for multi-touch on a laptop either. No firewire means replacing my drives and dvd writer too. I'll be sticking with my white Macbook for the foreseeable.

    New displays real nice though.
  13. avatar Ric_vdb
    I just sold my macbook planning to upgrade last week anyway. The no firewire has led me to go for the new 15" macbook pro. I think theyre pretty lush. Thank god for student loans and discounts.
  14. avatar fastfude
    [quote:b76ed028e7="rinky"]Not convinced there's much call for multi-touch on a laptop either.[/quote:b76ed028e7]I do find myself trying to two-finger scroll on non-apple laptops and lamenting its absence. Not sure if four-finger swiping will be as intuitive, but the less precision fiddling needed with interface widgets the better imho.
  15. avatar Amz
    [quote:58cb1b2e92="fastfude"][quote:58cb1b2e92="rinky"]Not convinced there's much call for multi-touch on a laptop either.[/quote:58cb1b2e92]I do find myself trying to two-finger scroll on non-apple laptops and lamenting its absence. Not sure if four-finger swiping will be as intuitive, but the less precision fiddling needed with interface widgets the better imho.[/quote:58cb1b2e92]

    agreed. Genius!
    But it seems like such a 'given' part of using a computer now that I always get confussled and annoyed when using non-apple laptops. Makes a huge difference.

    Have apple got this patent? Is that why other manufacturers don't seem to be following??
  16. avatar Tele
    Looking back a bit?

    [img:860d66cee7]http://posner.net/marc/projects/TiBook/large/TiBook.jpg[/img:860d66cee7]
  17. avatar fastfude
    On the lack of Firewire 400 port:[quote:26eefe1b01]FireWire still has some life in it in the pro space, especially in areas like video and music production. But listen, folks: the MacBook is not a professionally-oriented computer. It is marketed for the general consumer, and I will argue that there isn't a justifiable percentage of general consumers that are using FireWire to justify adding the cost and space to the MacBook.[/quote:26eefe1b01]

    http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/10/17/steve-jobs-concisely-answers-the-macbook-firewire-question
  18. avatar goodonpaper
    Look really nice "in the flesh" - was in the Apple Store last night. Not worth flogging my brand new Macbook Pro for just yet, though!
  19. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:5d58b39911="Amz"]Have apple got this patent? Is that why other manufacturers don't seem to be following??[/quote:5d58b39911]

    They have various patents on multi-touch things.
    Multi-touch capable things are also more expensive and Apple can get away with charging extra.
  20. avatar Ric_vdb
    i got the new Macbook Pro and it is stunningly beautiful. The new trackpad is a dream too. Makes my old black macbook running tiger look strangely dated :S
  21. avatar rl
    [quote:b633bf7b75="fastfude"]On the lack of Firewire 400 port:[quote:b633bf7b75]FireWire still has some life in it in the pro space, especially in areas like video and music production. But listen, folks: the MacBook is not a professionally-oriented computer. It is marketed for the general consumer, and I will argue that there isn't a justifiable percentage of general consumers that are using FireWire to justify adding the cost and space to the MacBook.[/quote:b633bf7b75]

    http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/10/17/steve-jobs-concisely-answers-the-macbook-firewire-question[/quote:b633bf7b75]

    I can't believe how annoyed I am about this about this.
    The MB Pro is the professional product, and has firewire 800, which I totally agree with.
    When it comes to the MB I feel like Apple are cutting people off without a decent alternative. Normally something is replaced by something better.
    Firewire 800 should really be the standard, and really should be on both the MB and MB Pro. Firewire 800 is now old. The MB Pro should have esata.

    Secondly how can people use Target Disk Mode??
  22. avatar fastfude
    I imagine Apple's argument will be that the decent alternative is the MBP, as there's little or no call for FW hardware in the general consumer market where USB is king.
  23. avatar The Ronster
    I don't like it, but I understand their reasoning.

    Put it like this - if the regular MacBook had firewire, and you didn't need it to do anything particularly GPU intensive, like heavy photo-processing or 3D work, then it would be too easy to overlook the Pro and get the cheaper model.

    I edited many, many things on my white MacBook using Final Cut - it handles raw DV no problem as that isn't heavily reliant on the GPU. However, I would have a job trying to do the same on the current line, as I would have no way to get the footage on there!

    Steve Jobs actually said in that email that most camcorders come with USB2 now, which is complete bollocks - that's only true if you want to use a HDD or Flash based model, but all MiniDV/Tape camcorders still use Firewire as the main data transfer method.

    Boo, Steve, boo.
  24. avatar Recycled Alien
    You can get a USB hub with firewire ports for about 20.

    Still, it does show the folly of putting yourself under the unreasonable whims of a single manufacturer. :roll:
  25. avatar rl
    [quote:c93da2796c="fastfude"]decent alternative is the MBP[/quote:c93da2796c]

    It is the decent alternative, but doesn't cover everyone's needs.
    I would be happy to pay the money for a MBP, however (for me) its physically too big.
    Something MBP priced, with the same spec but smaller would be amazing.

    Umm, I wonder if they've thought about a 12" "Pro Laptop" before...
  26. avatar fastfude
    So the 13" Unibody Macbook has been assimilated into the MacbookPro range now, leaving the previous (albeit updated) white plastic style as the only consumer-level Macbook (no black ones that I can see).

    Firewire 400 on the MB, 800 on all the Pros.
  27. avatar The Ronster
    [quote:fa1893d562="rl"]
    Umm, I wonder if they've thought about a 12" "Pro Laptop" before...[/quote:fa1893d562]

    Your wish has been granted.

    Worth noting that when Snow Leopard drops in September it will bestow the full range of multi-touch gestures on all laptops with multi-touch track-pads. That should mean even my lowly White MacBook.
  28. avatar comprachio
    New Macbook and new iMac range out now.

    Thoughts?

    I would've preferred keeping the old iMac shape and giving it Quad Core processors. Nice screens though. Macbook update is subtle but will please everyone who's noticed the trim coming off their macbook over the last few years.