1. avatar George W Best
    David Holmes' new tune - pure drone heaven!
    Oppenheimer - healthy drone pop par excellence!
    Spritualized - currently playing the best gigs of their career!

    is drone the next big thing now?
    All we need now is Ride to reform and everything will be peachy!
  2. avatar thesacredhearts
    Shoegaze is making a well deserved come back.

    Check out Miracle Fortress and Maps. Greatness.
  3. avatar George W Best
    Maps are fucking class no doubt about it
  4. avatar mullinino
    im up for drumming for the new shoegazing revolution if anyone fancies it?
  5. avatar Sadoldgit
    You might like the new album from Bass Communion ...basically Steven Wilson of porcupine tree`s more experimental side.

    Do a myspace search for some snippets from it.
  6. avatar mrginger
    i got an album by a band called grouper thats immense.
  7. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:dc96866391="George W Best"]
    All we need now is Ride to reform and everything will be peachy![/quote:dc96866391]

    I wouldn't say that Ride were drone, but it would bring a smile to my face if they returned.

    Although they would nodoubt be total shite, as the years of playing bass in Oasis will have ruined Andy Bell.
  8. avatar The Fires of Hell
    [quote:02f39fd6cf]Oppenheimer - healthy drone pop par excellence![/quote:02f39fd6cf]

    What is drone about Oppenheimer? Wouldn't have said they were in the same sport, let alone ball park.
  9. avatar George W Best
    I would say they are pop drone to an extent what with their use of Moogs etc.
  10. avatar The Fires of Hell
    Dunno if the simple use of a Moog really makes one drone at all. I'd contend that what makes good drone is getting lost in the nihilism of pure sound waves that almost gasp for the next note to come and relieve the tension. Not sunshine Moog pop - but that's probably just me.
  11. avatar thesacredhearts
    Shoegaze/Dream pop/Drone are all cut from the same cloth though.

    There's the kolvner experiment too who are definitely on the drone end of things. Think kevin shields is involved. Oh and the warlocks.
  12. avatar spirit of division
    Gotta say I'm with CT...
  13. avatar The Fires of Hell
    Have to say, slotting 'Drone' beside shoegaze (very little crossover there) and dream pop (even less) is a pretty grim misappropriation of the term. 'Sake Black Sabbath are closer to drone if those are how loose the criteria are going to be. Get a bit of Skullflower down yer necks - drone should have you gazing into oblivion, not down at your shoes.
  14. avatar feline1
    lol
    NEXT WEEK: how any indie band with a keyboard player automatically sounds like Joy Division.
  15. avatar thesacredhearts
    hmmm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_music

    Does it really matter though? You're trying to justify another ridiculous genre name by saying some one is or isn't that genre.
  16. avatar tinpot anto
    If youse aren't careful Rog will put in THE FILTER.

    "Music associated with a continuous monotonous sonic experience"

    Anyone?
  17. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:d6c1d294f9="The Fires of Hell"]Have to say, slotting 'Drone' beside shoegaze (very little crossover there) and dream pop (even less) is a pretty grim misappropriation of the term. 'Sake Black Sabbath are closer to drone if those are how loose the criteria are going to be. Get a bit of Skullflower down yer necks - drone should have you gazing into oblivion, not down at your shoes.[/quote:d6c1d294f9]

    I'm with you on this one. I can understand why people might see a similarity, but for my taste, there's nothing linking Sunn O))) and Slowdive, other than the fact that they are humans who play music.

    Although obviously Jesu is the middle ground (for those that care).
  18. avatar remedy malahide
    [quote:8c205a6c59]drone should have you gazing into oblivion, not down at your shoes.[/quote:8c205a6c59]
    Class line!!
  19. avatar Steven Dedalus
    Just speaking of drone, it got me thinking about an album I heard many moons ago.

    I used to manage a little record store in Aberdeen, and one day the new release by Acid Mothers Temple came in, much to the delight of the staff (we were all partial to a bit of drone).

    The record was called "Electric Heavyland" and it is the heaviest thing I have ever heard.

    We put it on in the shop, and it just got louder and heavier and louder and heavier and louder and heavier, until we had to turn it off.

    It gave us all headaches for the rest of the day.

    Amazing...
  20. avatar Arcane
    Any time I hear the word drone I think of the word boring.
  21. avatar remedy malahide
    [quote:8800babb1d="Steven Dedalus"]Just speaking of drone, it got me thinking about an album I heard many moons ago.

    I used to manage a little record store in Aberdeen, and one day the new release by Acid Mothers Temple came in, much to the delight of the staff (we were all partial to a bit of drone).

    The record was called "Electric Heavyland" and it is the heaviest thing I have ever heard.

    We put it on in the shop, and it just got louder and heavier and louder and heavier and louder and heavier, until we had to turn it off.

    It gave us all headaches for the rest of the day.

    Amazing...[/quote:8800babb1d]
    They did a brilliant split with Kinski. The songs appeared to be "poppier" than other stuff I'd heard but it was class none the less.
  22. avatar 10rapid
    fuck sake. Another innocent posting descends into pedantic schmindie oneupmanship and 'no you're wrong there'-isms. I think to the uninitiated in 'dream pop' etc, the comparisons between the bands/tunes mentioned is obvious. Unfortunately most of us haven't got the new issue of wire where it explains this year's newly revised classification schemes for guitar music.
  23. avatar tinpot anto
    schmmusic

    has gone to the top of my favourite words list. Noun Verb and Adjective in one too - cool ;)
  24. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:c99f617682="Arcane"]Any time I hear the word drone I think of the word boring.[/quote:c99f617682]

    Any time I think of the word 'boring', I think of bog standard metal, for some reason.

    [quote:c99f617682]Unfortunately most of us haven't got the new issue of wire where it explains this year's newly revised classification schemes for guitar music. [/quote:c99f617682]

    Is that out yet? I must pick it up.
  25. avatar Sadoldgit
    One of the better exponents of the genre, though some of their more recent stuff is relly quite melodic for them!

    http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband
  26. avatar feline1
    Yes but the best Sequential Circuits and ARP synthesizers would have a button on the VCA marked "drone" which would liberate it from the ADSR envelope and thus provide infinite sustain. 8)
  27. avatar thesacredhearts
    [quote:57b278d6c6="Steven Dedalus"]

    Is that out yet? I must pick it up.[/quote:57b278d6c6]

    Its a supplement in "Arguing with the internet at tangents monthly".
    Last edited on , 1 times in total.
  28. avatar Arcane
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    People love pulling that "Metal" card as some sort of burn.
    Moron.
  29. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:109a65bee6="Arcane"]Any time I hear the word drone I think of the word boring.[/quote:109a65bee6]

    I think that anytime I hear the word Arcane.

    [edit]opps, steven already did that joke...
  30. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    [quote:e332563833="Steven Dedalus"][quote:e332563833="The Fires of Hell"]Have to say, slotting 'Drone' beside shoegaze (very little crossover there) and dream pop (even less) is a pretty grim misappropriation of the term. 'Sake Black Sabbath are closer to drone if those are how loose the criteria are going to be. Get a bit of Skullflower down yer necks - drone should have you gazing into oblivion, not down at your shoes.[/quote:e332563833]

    I'm with you on this one. I can understand why people might see a similarity, but for my taste, there's nothing linking Sunn O))) and Slowdive, other than the fact that they are humans who play music.

    Although obviously Jesu is the middle ground (for those that care).[/quote:e332563833]

    I am on this too. Agree completely, seems that these days a good lot of indie bands and people from the indie scene are starting to get interested in drone/sludge with the result that bands that have NOTHING to do with either are labelled as such.

    Anyway, if we are talking of proper drone, i will add to the list of 'must listen' bands Khanate (even though they are on the more doom side of things) and Teeth of Lions Rule The Devine.
  31. avatar Arcane
    Kinda like when people say Arcane are metal.
  32. avatar thesacredhearts
    There are two completely different meanings of the word it would seem, drone as a metal off shoot and drone a VU/Krautrock off shoot.
  33. avatar Sadoldgit
    ......so, if we want to go down the old pigoen hole route, are these guys an offshoot of metal, stoner rock, or post rock ?

    Does it really matter so long as you like the stuff?

    http://www.myspace.com/russiancircles
  34. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    Well, I don't think it matters all that much what a band plays if you like it. However, it can be useful to clearly define what a band plays for a whole series of reasons.

    Anyways, Russian Circles i'd say are more on the post-rock side of things, even though they have metal influences. I say their gig with These Arms Are Snakes and ASIWYFA at the Black Box is a must, definitively sounds like it's going to be deadly.
  35. avatar The Fires of Hell
    Dont get me wrong, I'm no stickler for nerdy tags.

    It's just that some things are patently daft - like calling Oppenheimer a drone band - that it bears pointing out.

    Otherwise we get in the same kind of situation that allows NME et al to herald what they call new "thrash" bands. And we all know that's neither big, nor clever, whether you care for labels or not.

    If I heard people going on about the latest cool new 'drone' bands that really just sound slow and introspective, I think a case would have to be made for GUNISHMENT.
  36. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    That is why I say that labelling the music a band does sometimes is vital for understanding. If you clear up what a band plays you will avoid stuff like Oppenheimer being called drone or many other cases.

    It is horrible having to define music and I will agree on that. But if you make boundaries clear, it avoids such misunderstandings.
  37. avatar Chi-Lite
    But then, alternatively, does it matter like.

    what's it to you if somebody thinks Oppenheimer are drone?
  38. avatar feline1
    [quote:4fc0298ebb="Chi-Lite"]

    what's it to you if somebody thinks Oppenheimer are drone?[/quote:4fc0298ebb]

    patent bullsh*t?

    I've never heard Oppenheimer, of course.
    But I somehow suspect they DON'T sound like a 6 hour La Monte Young fluxus sine-wave odyssey.
  39. avatar Crackity_jones
    Fuck Buttons count as a drone band, yes? At least there are elements of drone there. Amazing band, anyway.
  40. avatar Gripper Magee
    Three things -

    This [url]http://www.soundjunction.org/medievalmusic.aspa?NodeID=1[/url] (Courtney Love even gets a mention :shock: )


    This [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLlIbMA6VFA[/url]


    And finally [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgGtjNqrdHA[/url]
  41. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:803349a213="The Fires of Hell"]Otherwise we get in the same kind of situation that allows NME et al to herald what they call new "thrash" bands.[/quote:803349a213]

    Like Oppenheimer.
  42. avatar POSITIVExYOUTH
    [quote:eec6ff4fee="Chi-Lite"]
    what's it to you if somebody thinks Oppenheimer are drone?[/quote:eec6ff4fee]

    It is a lot, mainly because you result having a load of bands that are labelled as 'drone' but have nothing to do with drone. Therefore the bands that do play drone are completely ignored (they already struggle to get some recognition these).
    Secondly, there is the situation about NME or Kerrang! just writing a whole load of crap when calling a band metalcore or thrash.

    It's a matter of not calling something what it is not.
  43. avatar JTM
    Drones, eh?

    [img:ec55cebc41]http://www.honeybeecentre.com/site_assets/www.honeybeecentre.com/images/dynamic/250px-Drone_24a.jpg[/img:ec55cebc41]
    ---
    [img:ec55cebc41]http://pages.prodigy.net/thenadels/borg.gif[/img:ec55cebc41]
    ---
    [img:ec55cebc41]http://aftermathnews.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/drones2.jpg[/img:ec55cebc41]
    ---
    http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~mrahaim/tanpura%20-%20csharp%20-%20sp.mp3
    ---

    The last one's the most relevant. EDIT: Aw man and you need to watch the link as well. Copy and paste the whole thing? Maybe?

    That's a drone though.
  44. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    Are Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers drone?
  45. avatar Rocky
    DRONE eh?

    Shaun would love it if oppenheimer were drone.
    not while i'm around.

    We were once listed as "technical metal" at a show in England.
    The crowd set their faces to disappointed pretty quickly.
  46. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    Magic arguments. So I thought that the drone is the constant(ish) note that sure enough, 'cause the other stuff around it is changing pitch, creates dissonace and harmony. Thinkin' about it, I suppose I try to listen past the dissonance of the drone to make sense of the other stuff that's goin' on, and like the fires of hell more or less said - when the dissonance resolves into harmony it's like a moment of resolution or creation, somethin' amazing unveiled, like some rule in maths or the planets linin' up or something. Well, you could write a thesis on it's many meanings probably. I don't think anyone owns it like.
  47. avatar feline1
    NEXT WEEK:
    New straight night opens, called "Gay Night".


    Actually this all reminds me of Alan McGee's column in the Grauniad last week, insisting that Queen were punk.
    As everyone pointed out to him, the logic of "Punk is cool. I love Queen. Therefore Queen must be punk!" is utter crap.

    Indeed I may as well allow John Cleese to take over at this point:

    " Good evening. The last scene was interesting from the point of view of a professional logician because it contained a number of logical fallacies; that is, invalid propositional constructions and syllogistic forms, of the type so often committed by my wife.

    'All wood burns,' states Sir Bedevere. 'Therefore,' he concludes, 'all that burns is wood.' This is, of course, pure bullshit. Universal affirmatives can only be partially converted: all of Alma Cogan is dead, but only some of the class of dead people are Alma Cogan. 'Oh yes,' one would think. However, my wife does not understand this necessary limitation of the conversion of a proposition; consequently, she does not understand me, for how can a woman expect to appreciate a professor of logic, if the simplest cloth-eared syllogism causes her to flounder?

    For example, given the premise, 'all fish live underwater' and 'all mackerel are fish', my wife will conclude, not that 'all mackerel live underwater', but that 'if she buys kippers it will not rain', or that 'trout live in trees', or even that 'I do not love her any more.' This she calls 'using her intuition'. I call it 'crap', and it gets me very irritated because it is not logical. 'There will be no supper tonight,' she will sometimes cry upon my return home. 'Why not?' I will ask. 'Because I have been screwing the milkman all day,' she will say, quite oblivious of the howling error she has made. 'But,' I will wearily point out, 'even given that the activities of screwing the milkman and getting supper are mutually exclusive, now that the screwing is over, surely then, supper may now, logically, be got.' 'You don't love me any more,' she will now often postulate. 'If you did, you would give me one now and again, so that I would not have to rely on that rancid Pakistani for my orgasms.' 'I will give you one after you have got me my supper,' I now usually scream, 'but not before'-- as you understand, making her bang contingent on the arrival of my supper. 'God, you turn me on when you're angry, you ancient brute!' she now mysteriously deduces, forcing her sweetly throbbing tongue down my throat. 'Fuck supper!' I now invariably conclude, throwing logic somewhat joyously to the four winds, and so we thrash about on our milk-stained floor, transported by animal passion, until we sink back, exhausted, onto the cartons of yogurt.

    I'm afraid I seem to have strayed somewhat from my original brief. But in a nutshell: sex is more fun than logic-- one cannot prove this, but it 'is' in the same sense that Mount Everest 'is', or that Alma Cogan 'isn't'.

    Goodnight.
  48. avatar Gripper Magee
    Inner truth content?

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schenkerian_analysis[/url]