1. avatar fastfude
    [quote:67ae69af87]UTV has launched its search for the best unsigned bands in Ireland.

    Live at the Limelight is a series of four one hour programmes which will be aired this autumn and will showcase new Irish talents.[/quote:67ae69af87]
    http://www4.u.tv/UTV_WhatsOn/Programmes/utvlife/feature.asp?epis_id=100536&feat_id=101416
  2. avatar Recycled Alien
    [i:6139a752a1]{Sits back and waits for first outburst of fastfude incoherent whining.}[/i:6139a752a1]
  3. avatar Joeplaysthedrums
    Great stuff.
  4. avatar Sadoldgit
    It would be nice to think it wouldnt just be the usual bad indie clones and there would be some rock and metal acts .....but , sadly I very much doubt that will be the case.
  5. avatar Captain Kennedy
    [quote:ab05d7a3b9="Recycled Alien"][i:ab05d7a3b9]{Sits back and waits for first outburst of fastfude incoherent whining.}[/i:ab05d7a3b9][/quote:ab05d7a3b9]

    Who the hell do UTV think they are?????

    Only joking. Pick me! Pick me!
  6. avatar clss_act_00
    going on tv so it'll be bands that can in someway relate to a likely audience, but still this sounds great
  7. avatar Sadoldgit
    in other words.....coldplay and snow patrol clones, or nice little bands that wouldnt scare your mammie...
  8. avatar huggy baps
    If it's going to be anything like ATL TV then you couldnt be more wrong!
  9. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [quote:09a87ea631="Sadoldgit"]in other words.....coldplay and snow patrol clones, or nice little bands that wouldnt scare your mammie...[/quote:09a87ea631]

    Rock n Roll isn't about scaring old women, why would you want to do that? Leave that to the hoodlums!
  10. avatar pauldoherty
    For anyone to take an interest in this wee music 'scene' is a bonus,sure isint this what ya'll cry about all the time :lol:
  11. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:ed0ecb82c4="Sadoldgit"]in other words.....coldplay and snow patrol clones, or nice little bands that wouldnt scare your mammie...[/quote:ed0ecb82c4]

    Seeing as what you're complaining about is that you want your son's band to play in this, I'm assuming that they don't scare their mammie either.
  12. avatar Chi-Lite
    well f[b:d67f6d9a45][/b:d67f6d9a45]ucking said

    some whingeing wankboys here, I swear to God
  13. avatar Sadoldgit
    Nope

    That`s not what I`m "complaining " about.
    It is difficult for any metal band to get airplay in NI and there are some very good ones around indeed.

    I`m simply suggesting the programme planners should perhaps look rather more broadly than appears to be the norm when seeking bands to play.
    There is a healthy rock and metal scene in Ireland, but I doubt many of those bands will get an invite as the perception is, they will scare the mammies.

    I remain to be proven wrong, but very much doubt that I will be.
  14. avatar Chi-Lite
    Nope.

    The perception is that rock and metal are a big load of oul cock and ballix, and my ma would knock the ballix out of most bands like that.

    what are you complaining about again? Not enough s[b:6499be95c9][/b:6499be95c9]hite on tv, or too much? Because, by the sound of it, you'd willingly subject us all to an awful lot more oul f[b:6499be95c9][/b:6499be95c9]ucking ballicks.

    I for one would be glad never to see a rock or metal band on tv again, unless it's the Who at the height of their stadium-filling fame. Unfortunately, there's probably some w[b:6499be95c9][/b:6499be95c9]anker like you working at UTV.

    What can a man do?
  15. avatar Orzo
    How about letting this UTV show run its course and then complaining if it's not up to your holier-tha-thou standards rather than bitching before the thing has even started?
  16. avatar Sadoldgit
    Nice.

    Lovely to see the old norn iron spide tradition of subjecting their opponent to a torrent of abuse, rather than reasoned argument is alive and well.


    I do see a lot of metal bands, and I suspect was going to see indie bands in the limelight whilst you where still pooing your nappy, so my comments are directed at current programme planners in NI.
    Regardless of your personal taste, or mine, there is a scene out there with many great bands.
    Ignoring the whole genre seems to be a feature of NI music media - I hope this time, a broader view of the local scene is taken.
  17. avatar pauldoherty
    Again as pointed out.......do you know that metal bands are not being represented or is it just a hunch?
    Even if the show was on Sky Channel 890 on a show called 'Bring yer ma to the bingo hall' and showcased local bands from here,it's still a plus.
    Dig it!
  18. avatar Sadoldgit
    Its a hunch , as it seems to be the case with most local events.

    By generating debate before the event, I am simply hoping that

    a. good, established unsigned metal and rock acts will stick their names down.
    b.the issue of aparent bias to indie etc may make the planners at least think about including some rock and metal
    c. the usual bunch of wankers will let fly on fasfude at anyone who likes their music with the gain knob turned to 11.
  19. avatar Chi-Lite
    Dry your eyes, old man.
  20. avatar tinpot anto
    Knob Factor 11, more like.
  21. avatar thesacredhearts
    And you comparing indie bands to bad snowplay clones is in some way different? Or calling people a spide?

    As has been said already, why not let the show air, then criticise (constructively hopefully)?

    That said, there is an infinitely more significant market for indie music at the moment, so will probably feature heavily. This is not the fault of bands, or the media. They are simply dealing with market factors ie supply and demand.

    Regardless of musical taste, any attention for the music scene (as a whole) is a good thing. This insular idea of a metal scene, an indie scene etc is only perpetuated by an us and them mentality which you seem to have adopted. Personally i prefer people who are optimistic and enthusiastic to the point of irritation that those who are pessimistic from the outset.
  22. avatar Sadoldgit
    ah...its always lovely to be proven correct.
  23. avatar tinpot anto
    Metal is rubbish insular soulless drivel beloved of 14 yr old greasy ming balls yet to discover girls and drink and with fantasies of being an actual elf warrior, whereas indie music is rubbish soulless drivel beloved of 24 yr old greasy ming balls yet to discover girls and drink and with fantasies of being in any way interesting.
  24. avatar Chi-Lite
    Yes, you've certainly proven the apt-ness of your name there.

    You're boring the life out of my hole here. Is your gist that you would like to see more metal bands on tv?

    Hard luck, old man. it's a new era and dispensation. We don't like hair anymore. Take yourself off to California, and you can get all the Rawk you want. You could probably grow your hair too.

    Now let's all look at this contribution to the text page of the Andytown News;

    [quote:f0bc22aa5e]Has anybody ever seen a cow jump over a fench? Saw one do it on Saturday in the Bog Meadows! Moo[/quote:f0bc22aa5e]

    If that doesn't sort ye out, away and get yourself a pastie supper out of Aldo's
  25. avatar Sadoldgit
    "Regardless of musical taste, any attention for the music scene (as a whole) is a good thing. This insular idea of a metal scene, an indie scene etc is only perpetuated by an us and them mentality which you seem to have adopted. Personally i prefer people who are optimistic and enthusiastic to the point of irritation that those who are pessimistic from the outset."


    I havent adopted any mentality.
    It is a regular complaint from metal and rock acts that they simply dont get a look in.
    Are you seriously suggesting that they are all wrong or misguided?

    As to my spide comment, that was directed after the torrent of personal abuse.
    I like most genres of music, and my sons being involved in a metal band is fankly irrelevant.
    The same debate started re the ATL Rockschool , [note the name] and there was a feeling amongst rock and metal acts that they were not really wanted.

    I really do hope that UTV are prepared to give everyone a go.

    One of the best gigs I have ever been to was The Charlatans in the Limelight in 1990.
    Hardly metal or rock..eh?
    I like a bit of indie, - so long as its original, but I would also like to see some of the cream of local metal and rock represented.
  26. avatar gerard
    i think its gotta b a good thing, a chance for a few bands to get on the telly

    fair play to anyone who gets on, its all abit of craic and better to have it than not hav it
  27. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:a956edce34="Sadoldgit"]I would also like to see some of the cream of local metal and rock represented.[/quote:a956edce34]

    Aye, well I wouldn't, so there ya go. Different strokes innit

    and so on and so on, and scooby dooby do
    ooh, sha sha

    To be fair though, I'm only winding ye up just for the sake of it. If you like your metal or whatever fair play til ye.

    But I for one am happy with the lack of rawk and metal bands represented on tv. In fact, I'd like to see less. As neither of us run UTV, it doesn't matter anyway, sure it doesn't.
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  28. avatar Sadoldgit
    that says more about you, than me, as do your nasty personal vitriolic comments.

    I hope the venture is a success and if we get another Duke Special or Relish out of it , brilliant.

    I would like to see another Answer or Sweet savage also given half a chance mind.
  29. avatar Recycled Alien
    Ring any bells, Mr Git?
    [quote:3d611e659a]very very few heavy rock and pretty much no electronica/leftfield acts entered. We flyered practice spaces, colleges, schools etc. Short of knocking on doors there isnt much else we can do, and once we do the longlist its out of our hands as to who ends up getting picked for the live final. there is no agenda against heavy bands at all, in fact I would have loved to hear some decent metal on rockschool as quite a lot of the time the musicianship is very impressive in this genre.[/quote:3d611e659a]

    No? I thought not, because in spite of it being spelled out very clearly to you, you still managed to go on whingeing for about six pages.

    Exactly the same in this case, except that the fucking programme hasn't even been made yet. Grow up. :-D
  30. avatar Captain Kennedy
    I don't think theres enough Folk Rock bands on the TV and this problem should be addressed by including Captain Kennedy on said programme.

    (I'll get my coat)
  31. avatar rigsyATL
    haven't read this thread as i'm sure it's the usual bitchy nonsense ;-)

    but

    [quote:f729897756]There is a healthy rock and metal scene in Ireland, but I doubt many of those bands will get an invite as the perception is, they will scare the mammies.[/quote:f729897756]

    can i just say - you got to be in it to win it - as in don't wait to be invited - put yourself forward.

    we get constant stick from the metal community for not profiling metal enough on radio/TV - yet (almost literally) none of the metal acts in this country ever send us their music or make themselves known to us. while we should always be on the lookout for the acts ourselves, it does help if they meet us half way.

    so yeah, if you like the look of this show, make sure and let the producers know that you exist, they shouldn't be expected to hunt you down.
  32. avatar Sadoldgit
    Ok lads.

    A request for metal acts to add live at the Limelight as a friend has been posted on Metal Ireland.

    I can think of any number of well established local rock and metal acts that would have a lot of cross over appeal.
    I hope those who say I`m wrong, and simply a wingeing old bastard are correct - my wife would agree with you.

    There is a market out there for heavier music - it shouldnt be ignored.
  33. avatar thesacredhearts
    Christ... we arent saying there isnt.

    Marty and Co are trolling. Don't take them seriously. The man thinks dexys are good for god sake.
  34. avatar Chi-Lite
    Now houl the f[b:dda7a1e800][/b:dda7a1e800]uck on a cotton picking minute. Dexy's are absolutely genius, and it's as simple as that.

    I'm not really trolling, although I am being mischieviously belligerent. The point is, this boy wants there to be more metal/Rawk bands on tv and radio. On the other hand, I'd like there to be far far less.

    It's simply two different points of view, and if you can whinge about there not being enough rawk/metal bands on tv, I'm willing to whinge that there's far too much. bores the trunks off two gay elephants.

    Which of us is right? Probably neither, but since we both have nothing to do with the show, and it hasn't even been made yet, it makes no odds.

    But dexy's are fecking class. I'd regale you with some lyrics, but i can't understand them. Instead, think back to the opening credits of Brush Strokes, where Jacko's painting a big white wall.

    Class
  35. avatar pauldoherty
    Marty,away you and give yourself a good shake son.....your in a bad way today.

    On a final note...... again....all exposure for local bands is good.Fact!
  36. avatar myspace.com/eleventhnote
    this is a good thing....stop being chumps...

    oh and metal on tv ... at least if its confined to 'Scuzz' we can choose to skip over the channel....but metal on UTV...not gonna happen...thankfully
  37. avatar PaulATL
    "The same debate started re the ATL Rockschool , [note the name] and there was a feeling amongst rock and metal acts that they were not really wanted."

    Agree with Rigsy, obviously.. seeing as how we share the same brain cell. We always try to get metal acts on, but they seem to have more of an inherent bias against media in general, than vice versa. As many will testify here, the producers of our show and I have no doubt, this new show on UTV are only too happy to receive entries and demos from heavy acts. They just never really come. Extreme acts obviously might just not work due to their very nature, but yes there are a LOT of very good metal and rock acts who dont make it, but more often than not, its because they dont engage rather than this perceived bias.
    Out of around 50 entries for ATL rockschool, less than 5 were metal/heavy rock. We canvassed everywhere we could think of and asked if there were places we were missing. so we're talking a ratio of less than 10 per cent here. If anything, when ATL receives something thats metal, it gets fast-tracked on air as we want to demonstrate that there is no bias on our show. I cant speak on behalf of LATL, but I imagine they will have a similarly underwhelming response unless this catch 22 attitude changes.

    Fair play for another FOUR HOURS of music broadcasting for unsigned bands I say.
  38. avatar Chi-Lite
    Happy days then.

    so we've established that it's the greasy-haired bastards' own fault.

    Hopefully they'll keep it up, for i couldn't be annoyed having to listen to them, or, even worse, watch them.

    up the mods :lol:
  39. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:080b6ff56b="Sadoldgit"]if we get another Duke Special ... out of it[/quote:080b6ff56b]

    I saw the duke special album in the bargin bin in a record shop the other day in Edinburgh.

    BEST.DAY.EVER.
  40. avatar my-angel-rocks
    Will this have any hungarian folk-drone-electronic acts?
  41. avatar rentaghost
    Anyone who [i:e59128fc0b]waits to be invited[/i:e59128fc0b] to go on this kind of show is their own worst enemy.
    What's the point? You can make the best music in the world but if you dont get off your backside and promote yourself noone is going to do it for you.
    Wise up.
  42. avatar andyzsp
    hang on havent stand-up guy and hexxed both featured on atl tv and other rock and metal bands too? fact is that the number of talented musicians playing heavy music is far outweighed by the amount of talented musicians who are not. coupled with this the amount of metal/heavy rock fans is far outweighed by indie/lighter rock fans. therefore when putting together a program for and from our shores there is less to choose from and less to cater for when it comes to metal.
  43. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:e12376db33="Sadoldgit"]There is a market out there for heavier music - it shouldnt be ignored.[/quote:e12376db33]

    There's a market for hardcore porn too, should UTV have that as well?
  44. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:fb9bd44403="my-angel-rocks"]

    There's a market for hardcore porn too, should UTV have that as well?[/quote:fb9bd44403]

    There are many out there who would say, "YES!"

    But I am not one of them.

    Personally, I'd prefer if metal was kept off TV. See also 'indie'.

    And 'alternative'.

    And 'music'.
  45. avatar Daveitferris
    Dear Lord.
    The show has'nt even started 'sadoldgit'!
    I agree with rigsy and Paul completely.

    I personally like a good bunch of metal, just none locally. So im not biased against it in any way.

    You got to be in to WIN IT.
  46. avatar ryanego
    Yes, we never hear anything about local rock bands like MojoFURY, Lafaro, Fighting with Wire, ASIWYFA, We Are Knives etc...
  47. avatar Sadoldgit
    Dave

    I refuse to listen to any man with worse hair than me.
  48. avatar Daveitferris
    Haha. Well done.
    run out of steam now sadoldgit?
    'Bout bloody time, you whiner.
  49. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    What do nice n' sleazy qualify as? I'd say they are rock, and they won thon show.


    Ye know what, I might change our myspace thing, bring back the word 'Pop'. I think we're more pop than indie anyhoo.

    Pop. Serious stuff.
  50. avatar Alex-Circadian
    [quote:111fb07222="myspace.com/eleventhnote"]this is a good thing....stop being chumps...

    oh and metal on tv ... at least if its confined to 'Scuzz' we can choose to skip over the channel....but metal on UTV...not gonna happen...thankfully[/quote:111fb07222]

    Scuzz? HAHA! How the hell could Bullet for My Valentine, Disturbed, Avenged Sevenfold and all the rest of that auld muck be considered metal?
  51. avatar Arcane
    You do gots ta be init to winit indeed, but unfortunately for musicians wining battle of the bands or appearing on tv dosent always mean you will get signed, so what has anyone got to lose.

    For the most part the belfast music scene is great at the minute just enjoy it while we've got it!

    Arcane's first album will be available from the 1st of August!

    Peace.
  52. avatar The enfant terrible
    I personally like metal, A LOT!!

    When I'm in a bad mood, nothing sorts it out better than some Linkin Park!!
  53. avatar Alex-Circadian
    ...I hope that was a joke :lol:
  54. avatar Joeplaysthedrums
    Can someone point me in the direction of some really good metal / rock acts in NI?

    There's definately a few acts i've heard i like (Scald, Arcane Suppression, Gama Bomb, Hexxed, We Are Knives, ASIWYFA come to mind), but surely these have all been around for ages. I sat on a rockschool panel a while back with Michael from Therapy (who also likes metal) and we were both pretty blown away by how low the standard of metal / rock acts was.

    However, Hexxed were on ATL TV, NIce N Sleezy won Rockskool, The Answer are all over the place, FWW, Lafaro etc etc (like ryan said) - rock / metal acts aren't ignored if they're good at what they do.

    By the same token though, if anyone thinks a band like Skewered are in contention for UTV airplay, they're kidding themselves. When there's minimal rock crossover, metal is as accesible a genre as Gabba, Drum + Bass or Minimal Techno. (None of which i'm knocking. Except gabba, which is just shite)
  55. avatar Sadoldgit
    Arcane already mentioned

    Sorrowfall
    Dead Zebra
    Lotion
    jackalfeud
    Honey for christ
    Speedking
    Niyah Sky
    darkest era
    and a great demo recently from Voices of Agony [hurry up and get the tunes on myspace lads]

    and of course, Circadian.

    That`s just a few great bands i have seen live , off the top of my head that would entertain any audience who appreciate good musicianship and are open minded - something many here seem not to be.
  56. avatar ryanego
    I think people too often confuse good musicianship with technical merit.

    Sometimes they overlap, but they are completely different entities.
  57. avatar Sadoldgit
    having been listening to music of all varieties for all of my life...I can tell the difference between a good technical player and a good musician.
    Amongst the bands listed there are good technical players, and people who can craft a piece of music - it may not be your preferred style [sometimes it isnt mine] but I can appreciate something when it is being done well.
    Too much local music I hear seems derivative of the latest fashion - NI`s answer to.......

    Few bands I hear make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up - a few of those listed above have done just that.
  58. avatar drakeguild
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  59. avatar Amz
    [quote:452fa0aefc="Sadoldgit"]Arcane already mentioned

    Sorrowfall
    Dead Zebra
    Lotion
    jackalfeud
    Honey for christ
    Speedking
    Niyah Sky
    darkest era
    and a great demo recently from Voices of Agony [hurry up and get the tunes on myspace lads]

    and of course, Circadian.

    That`s just a few great bands i have seen live , off the top of my head that would entertain any audience who appreciate good musicianship and are open minded - something many here seem not to be.[/quote:452fa0aefc]

    I'm not a huge metal/heavy rock fan. I've had my moments in the past, but it hasn't been my regular listening for many years. Anyhow, my point being, I haven't actively searched out any local metal. HOWEVER, I'm very aware of Lotion (that last ep was a cracker), Jackalfeud & I belive Honey for Christ. I've heard them all on the ol'wireless at some stage I'm sure of it. Thats just from the above list. The others, I just kinda recognise the names from here and gig posters tbh. But then I'm sure there's many many many bands that I rate that you wouldn't think twice about. Such is life. Such is the crazy subjective thing called music.
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  60. avatar exitonline
    There's alot of people rubbishing the program before any bands are decided...at least wait and see what bands are on and then start moaning.

    Surely as some have said this program is a good thing, a program looking to expose unsigned bands whatever type of bands they are is a good thing.

    I would imagine this program would be broadcast outside primetime, somewhere around 11pm. So they wont need to worry too much about so called "heavy" bands upsetting anyone. I would imagine if a band has good enough material and the band and their music would suit being broadcast on TV then they will be choosen. By this I would imagine that they will also have screen tests before they book bands. As we've seen too many bands that would have an issue with the moving pictures format of TV. We have witnessed bands standing there like a bunch of carboard cutouts on stage just bashing out their songs with no thoght to the visual/entertainment element of their show.

    I Also have to agree with the people have already said that Irish rock music is doing very well these days.
  61. avatar Joeplaysthedrums
    Metal fans see why its funny right? They don't take it totally seriously?
  62. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:6a71f3888c="Mickeycolensoparade"]What do nice n' sleazy qualify as? [/quote:6a71f3888c]

    Am I allowed to answer this?

    Come on! It will be funny!

    No?
  63. avatar tinpot anto
    [img:1ee6eb1116]http://warehouse.carlh.com/article_141/lolmetal_01.jpg[/img:1ee6eb1116]
  64. avatar goatboy
    I demand Julian Simmons comes on and makes a full explanation.
  65. avatar T Entertainment
    Spawn of Possession have this message simply to annoy Marty on the back of their lovely t-shirts:

    [img:621eaab941]http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/Shirtmaniac/Spawn%20of%20Possession%20Shirts/SpawnofPossessionback.jpg[/img:621eaab941]
  66. avatar 10rapid
    [quote:ee40e2b976]Voices of Agony [/quote:ee40e2b976]
    Flip me, a more apt name could only arise if chi-lite's band renamed themselves "marty and the malevolent metascientist mongs"

    Really, can you see julian simmons going "did ye hear Voices of Agony on the tele last night? They were claaaaws!" on UTV?

    Why do metal bands need such miserable names?

    Reminds me of a gig we played in 1994:

    metalist: "we're called apathy and this song is from our 'lack of emotion EP'"

    audience wit: "crapathy! Lack of talent EP!"
  67. avatar George W Best
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    This forum needs a Metal style font to type in!

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  68. avatar The Fires of Hell
    [quote:be88b40b00]metalist: "we're called apathy and this song is from our 'lack of emotion EP'"

    audience wit: "crapathy! Lack of talent EP!"[/quote:be88b40b00]

    Oddly enough I still think this particular demo is one of the best to have come from here. It's pure class, vintage doom at it's best.
  69. avatar huggy baps
    I wouldn’t really say that metal is under represented in local media at all. There does seem to be reluctance from such bands to send in demo’s etc, though. Why this is I have no idea.

    As already mentioned there are plenty of bands, be it metal, or from the loud/heavy side of things on both the wireless and the telly bax. As already mentioned there are SUG, Hexxed, La Faro etc. My own band Lotion, though not metal but definitely on the heavier side of things, recorded a Radio1 session, video for ATL TV, got plenty of airplay and landed a slot at Glasgowbury (I think Interrogate are playing as well).

    As stated already, you gotta be in it to win it, its not like posting a cd involves that much time or effort anyway! Just follow it up and if its good, then you’ll get some sorta result.

    Oh, and I think ‘UTV At The Limelight’ is a great idea!
  70. avatar The enfant terrible
    Nice to hear Apathy get a mention, one of the first bands I saw live as a ripe young 14 year old in Ballymena.
  71. avatar palrub
    ..a few old friends had a metal band on the go playing manowar, megadeth and anything in between. They called themselves [i:7bfa720bc6]The Lovely Lads[/i:7bfa720bc6] and were promptly booked for a BBC in-reception thing a few summers back. Cue shocked faces.

    I think band names are integral:

    Metal: Dying Corpse of Death
    Emo: Cut Me Often, Uh huh?!
    Indie: the shots

    *note*
    [quote:7bfa720bc6]Presenters Mark Noble, Katie Larmour and Alana Kerr want musicians to take part.[/quote:7bfa720bc6]
    ..as opposed to metal, obviously. 8)
  72. avatar George W Best
    Here's a question for all the metallers out there
    What is real metal?
    Is it Whitesnake/Def Leppard type metal?
    Or Metallica type metal?
    Or that Norwegian death metal stuff?
  73. avatar tinpot anto
    Look metal gets a bad rap right enough, but without it the 2 best things in music ever would never have existed.

    These being of course
    The Judgement Night Soundtrack
    Body Count
  74. avatar basileh
    [quote:00729b5d49="PaulATL"]"The same debate started re the ATL Rockschool , [note the name] and there was a feeling amongst rock and metal acts that they were not really wanted."

    Agree with Rigsy, obviously.. seeing as how we share the same brain cell. We always try to get metal acts on, but they seem to have more of an inherent bias against media in general, than vice versa. As many will testify here, the producers of our show and I have no doubt, this new show on UTV are only too happy to receive entries and demos from heavy acts. They just never really come. Extreme acts obviously might just not work due to their very nature, but yes there are a LOT of very good metal and rock acts who dont make it, but more often than not, its because they dont engage rather than this perceived bias.
    Out of around 50 entries for ATL rockschool, less than 5 were metal/heavy rock. We canvassed everywhere we could think of and asked if there were places we were missing. so we're talking a ratio of less than 10 per cent here. If anything, when ATL receives something thats metal, it gets fast-tracked on air as we want to demonstrate that there is no bias on our show. I cant speak on behalf of LATL, but I imagine they will have a similarly underwhelming response unless this catch 22 attitude changes.

    Fair play for another FOUR HOURS of music broadcasting for unsigned bands I say.[/quote:00729b5d49]

    Well Paul. atl got an album of Bad Boat and an unreleased song to play and they haven't played a full song of ours since our first demo in 2003 and our stuff sounds better than that now obviously.
  75. avatar RockShandy
    Maybe because it's unadultered pish?

    I don't know, like, but that could be a reason?
  76. avatar George W Best
    Another question to all the metallers: is false metal better than no metal at all?
  77. avatar rigsyATL
    we have played bad boat and we got you guys in for an interview/profile a few weeks ago, did we not?
  78. avatar PaulATL
    tom? you know very well that I personally gave several spins (in full) to Bad Boat material when standing in for rigsy last year, as I think you're band are great - then we did a PONI profile on the band that was broadcast too. You'll remember there was a mix up when I was on hols that meant you had to re-record? It is entirely untrue that we havent played your band since 03! Rigsy has played it since too. Considering there are a few strong language concerns on some of the material too we've given you guys some airtime for sure. We also ALWAYS include you in our listings both online and on air. No local band gets played every single week, and should you guys be playing a gig or releasing something we would of course welcome the opportunity to play your stuff again. Do we need to start publishing playslists again lol?


    EDIT: To be honest, I always got the feeling you guys were witing to get pissed at us. This is part of the issue, sometimes - and I am NOT aiming this necessarily at Bad Boat here, again I like their music a LOT - metal bands are delighted that things happen that reinforce their perception of a hostile or uninterested media. It simply isnt the case.
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  79. avatar basileh
    we did do a profile late last year with no full songs. You played 'paradox' once before though.
    I don't mind it's just that I don't reckon yous are as starved of heavy rock and metal as you make out as you've only played us once and I know we aren't as metal as most of the stuff out there locally.
  80. avatar rigsyATL
    those profiles never have full songs - the idea is that there's clips of a few songs cut up with the band talking -to give a decent, full flavour of what you're about.


    this is the way it's been for years and we've never made an exception for any band.
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  81. avatar Sadoldgit
    I see "Live at the Limelight" hasnt logged in for 2 days.
    I`m curious to see all the local bands who will be added as friends.

    Simply, if lots enter and none get through, then we have a right to complain as Rigsy and Fasfude say, if nobody enters, then we dont.

    I`m glad to see local media tapping into the music scene - it does seem healther than it ever was when the bombs and bullets were going off.
    I hope it becomes a regular feature on both the Beeb and UTV , even if we have to tolerate the crap fake indie and emo bands in amongst the cream of local rock and metal.
  82. avatar rigsyATL
    [quote:f5bcc6db5d]I hope it becomes a regular feature on both the Beeb [/quote:f5bcc6db5d]

    ATL TV has been running for four years, making videos for, filming live and interviewing around 60/70 local bands (if not more?) of all genres (metal included) long before UTV's show came along ;-)
  83. avatar PaulATL
    Tom that is simply untrue. I PERSONALLY played more than one track on more than once occasion. You can take my word for it, or continue to imply I am somehow being false, either way, its not something I'll take to the grave. People who know me/us know we're on the level, others can make their own minds up or distort their own experience to suit their own ends. Sometimes we play bands' music despite the band. For me, I dont care if a band are the nicest guys in the world, if their music is decent they get played. YOu guys werent exactly easy on us, but we still played the tunes, because we liked the music. You can try to tell me the facts about my own show if you lie, it wont make it actually true though.
    re: playing bits of tracks on a feature, there was nearly 10 minutes of your music played with two of you guys interviewed, do you think thats somehow bad for your band??
    Cheers like. I am kinda surprised by what your saying, and then kind of not.
  84. avatar basileh
    [quote:546bea3dcc="rigsyATL"]those profiles never have full songs - the idea is that there's clips of a few songs cut up with the band talking -to give a decent, full flavour of what you're about.


    this is the way it's been for years and we've never made an exception for any band.[/quote:546bea3dcc]

    I understand now. Excuse me flak. I still dig the show metal or not and I'll send yous our new record.
    The tv show is great too.
  85. avatar Captain Kennedy
    [quote:f1e27e0f6e="Sadoldgit"]even if we have to tolerate the crap fake indie and emo bands in amongst the cream of local rock and metal.[/quote:f1e27e0f6e]

    Can't believe folk rock is forgotten again! I demand some parity of esteem.
  86. avatar basileh
    [quote:f95cc0dd96="PaulATL"]Tom that is simply untrue. I PERSONALLY played more than one track on more than once occasion. You can take my word for it, or continue to imply I am somehow being false, either way, its not something I'll take to the grave. People who know me/us know we're on the level, others can make their own minds up or distort their own experience to suit their own ends. Sometimes we play bands' music despite the band. For me, I dont care if a band are the nicest guys in the world, if their music is decent they get played. YOu guys werent exactly easy on us, but we still played the tunes, because we liked the music. You can try to tell me the facts about my own show if you lie, it wont make it actually true though.
    re: playing bits of tracks on a feature, there was nearly 10 minutes of your music played with two of you guys interviewed, do you think thats somehow bad for your band??
    Cheers like. I am kinda surprised by what your saying, and then kind of not.[/quote:f95cc0dd96]

    Of course it wasn't bad for us. I appreciated the feature Paul.
    I wasn't trying to get at the show I know yous don't play much local metal bands as I believe that you don't get the stuff sent in but what little you may have don't seem to get more than one spin.
    I try to do more to encourage rock bands to send their stuff to you anyway as I know yous have had this debate before with logical conclusions made by yourselves.
  87. avatar Chi-Lite
    Has this balls not run its course yet?

    It seems that the whole point of this thread is that one person, sadoldgit, is complaining that there isn't enough of the kind of music he likes on radio and tv.

    But see at the end of the day, as a self-proclaimed sad old git, you're hardly the target audience like, are ye?

    I personally would like to see and hear a lot less of your rawk/metal ballix. And as a spritely young fella, I'm more likely to be the target demographic.

    Why wont the BBC listen to me????

    :lol: :lol:
  88. avatar basileh
    Marty. The Who were metal.
  89. avatar basileh
    especially Mommas Got A Squeezebox
  90. avatar Chi-Lite
    :lol: :lol:

    Aha, point already taken, Thomas.

    [quote:3370a554dd="Chi-Lite"]I for one would be glad never to see a rock or metal band on tv again, unless it's the Who at the height of their stadium-filling fame. [/quote:3370a554dd]

    Or the Boat, obviously. :P
  91. avatar rigsyATL
    [quote:7bc45a5e48]I wasn't trying to get at the show[/quote:7bc45a5e48]


    you were claiming we hadn't played your music in full since 2003 when we have in fact played it many times and had you in for an interview!!
  92. avatar basileh
    Rigsy you didn't play us. calm down mate. I know Paul did.
    I listen to the show and check the playlist.
    I said that 'Paradox' was played.
  93. avatar rigsyATL
    yes i did play you. i played you at least twice. i also interviewed you and put out a ten minute feature on you which had 2/3 tracks included.
  94. avatar Sadoldgit
    I know you have Rigsy -but the more the merrier as they say.

    Regardless of the facts [and depending on point of view they can appear distinctly different] , there is an impression that rock and metal is less well represented than it might be.

    That may well be untrue, and metal bands may be partly at fault for refusing to put themselves forward [feeling they will be ignored anyway]
    That doesnt take away from the great work ATL has done over the years - I was listening to it when a former drummer of a certain local band presented it, so, I certainly have no anti-ATL bias...quite the reverse.

    It kept me company in my garage many`s an evening when I was trying to encourage some piece of scrap bike or car to work.
  95. avatar stevieo
    We want a Latin/Blues/Acoustic Techno section. If yer not in y'can't win www.myspace.com/flamingobrothers
  96. avatar Chi-Lite
    Aye calm yourselves.

    Rigsy, you do take a bit of stick on here, for no good reason as far as i can see, but you have a tendency to get really really really defensive. :-D

    I don't think anybody's really complaining about ATL are they? Tom thinks you didn't play his tunes, but he's already said he's not getting at the show.

    Feck sake we're all lucky to have any show to get our (mostly s[b:9e720bb00d][/b:9e720bb00d]hite) bands a bit of airplay

    i'd love to see far less rawk/metal on it though :P
  97. avatar rigsyATL
    i don't think i'm being OTT defensive, i'm just setting the record straight with this one. i don't get why someone would keep saying we/i didn't play their music when we/i did, a few times. and it was me that did the interview and broadcast the feature as well.

    it's not a complaint, but it is annoying that we're being made out to be talkin s*it when we're not, like.
  98. avatar basileh
    [quote:469b871f00="rigsyATL"]yes i did play you. i played you at least twice. i also interviewed you and put out a ten minute feature on you which had 2/3 tracks included.[/quote:469b871f00]

    I'll take your word for it Rigsy but you did think we were just in for an interview a few weeks back.
  99. avatar rigsyATL
    okay a few months ago. i don't know exactly when it was, but it was less than a year, certainly. not really the point. when we got the CD in we featured it a resonable amount.
  100. avatar Sadoldgit
    also, to give the man his due, I suspect few other presenters accross the UK are prepared to come onto an open forum like this, and take crap from grumpy bastards.

    Ah, the good old Norn Iron spirit of loving a good scrap is alive and well.
  101. avatar goatboy
    Whatever happened to Patrick that used to answer the phones for ATL? I'm fairly sure he liked a bit of metal. I haven't seen him about in years and years.
  102. avatar tinpot anto
    Rigsy killed him, just like he's killing the NI metal scene right now.

    MURDERER!
  103. avatar Daveitferris
    SadoldGIT, you seem utterly obsessed with making out that it's somehow '[i:fef35704e2]someones[/i:fef35704e2]' fault that there's not enough metal being publicised, but go on to say that..

    "and metal bands may be partly at fault for refusing to put themselves forward [feeling they will be ignored anyway]"

    Boo-hoo. Everyone runs the risk of being ignored by radio, because of the sheer volume of mateiral they receive on a weekly basis. There's no 'fasttrack' to getting airplay. If Local metal is dwindling on the airwaves, then as you said yourself, maybe the metal fraternity have alott to do with that?

    Who's to blame?

    a) The stations who 'dont play any metal, man'
    or
    B) the bands who refuse to put themselves forward?

    Seemed like you just wanted a rant from the offset. Im not personally attacking you, i just dont get your 'gone play more metal please' argument.

    But for what it's worth, i cant wait to see this show, it's yet another blessing for our wee local scene.
  104. avatar Daveitferris
    Oh, and Goatboy has a 'Handful of Hate' Tattoo on his lower Back. Aint that right, sonny? :-D
  105. avatar Sadoldgit
    Not a rant - the hope that raising the issue might make the makers of such programmes at least think.

    My take on it?

    1. There IS an anti-rock/metal bias in the media [probably always has been to an extent]
    2.Metal bands do get fed up with being ignored , so undoubtably some do end up saying feck it and not bothering to submit material if there is "no point"
    3.A level playing field when it comes to rockshool style competitions isnt much to ask for.

    Read some of the anti- metal opinions on this thread for goodness sake!

    Its not pop and it isnt going to have widespread appeal, but that doesnt mean there arent quite a few people out there who would like to hear a good local rock act.
    I get fed up seeing and hearing the same old boo hooo, boy meets girl, boy falls in love, girl leave, boy crys and slits his wrists shite that seems to populate the airways.

    more tunes about killing people and disemboweling them, whilst worshiping the lord of darkness is what NI needs.
  106. avatar Steven Dedalus
    Jesus! This is getting preposterous!*

    [quote:62f66bb892]There IS an anti-rock/metal bias in the media [probably always has been to an extent]
    [/quote:62f66bb892]


    Yes, you are correct. The reason for this is because metal, as an 'extreme' genre does not sit well within traditional media out-put, and is therefore marginalised.

    This happens with everything, as the general point of broadcasting is to capture as broad an audience as possible. The clue is in the name.

    So, whilst metal/etc is generally absent from our prime-time TV and radio output, so is extreme lo-fi, underground avant-garde, hardcore pornography, and moto-cross.

    For the simple reason that they do not appeal to a mass audience.

    So there you go.

    *I am aware that it was preposterous from the very beginning.
  107. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:212ac83ab0="Sadoldgit"]

    1. There IS an anti-rock/metal bias in the media [probably always has been to an extent][/quote:212ac83ab0]

    I really wish there was, it would be entirely justified.

    [quote:212ac83ab0="Sadoldgit"]Read some of the anti- metal opinions on this thread for goodness sake![/quote:212ac83ab0]

    Alternatively, read some of the anti-indie/pop opinions of yourself!

    I personally don't really like "indie" either. We all like different things, so we do.


    [quote:212ac83ab0="Sadoldgit"]more tunes about killing people and disemboweling them, whilst worshiping the lord of darkness is what NI needs.[/quote:212ac83ab0]

    aye. We all need something to have a good oul snigger at.
  108. avatar Daveitferris
    alrighty.
    I honestly just wanted a clearer explanation.
    thanks.
  109. avatar Captain Kennedy
    Just noticed this wee comment on the U.TV site......

    [quote:19f0689196]"Great stuff! There is a vibrant local music scene and it needs more media outlets. One appeal please - could we please have a broad variety including some decent heavy rock and metal acts [of which there are many in Northern Ireland] The broader the range of music on offer , the wider the appeal, and all too often local heavy rock and metal seems regarded as "underground" - odd given the rich tradition of the genre from this little place. Looking forward to seeing the programmes, and keep us all informed as to how to get tickets to see the live events. Good on UTV!" [/quote:19f0689196]

    Rip into them sadoldgit!!! (I guessed it was you due to the strategic use of "the square bracket")
  110. avatar George W Best
    If Metal had any sense it'd stay a million miles clear from any music show being made by the dipsticks at UTV.
    But Metal doesn't have any sense and that's why we love it!
    :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 :smt035 Der ner ner ner ner der ner!!!!

    Death to false METAL!
  111. avatar exitonline
    [quote:c01212ecd5="rigsyATL"]yes i did play you. i played you at least twice. i also interviewed you and put out a ten minute feature on you which had 2/3 tracks included.[/quote:c01212ecd5]

    [quote:c01212ecd5="basileh"]Rigsy you didn't play us. calm down mate. I know Paul did.
    I listen to the show and check the playlist.
    I said that 'Paradox' was played.[/quote:c01212ecd5]

    Ha ha....this is priceless. You say that ATL didn't play then in the same post you go on to say they did. If ATL done an interview and played your stuff surely thats a sign they arent ignoring you. Some bands (ourselves included) have never been featured in any way by ATL etc, instead the majority of our radioplay comes from the UK and USA and we dont moan about it on a messageboard, instead we quiety get on with it. Don't limit yourselves to the local media, it's a big world out there.

    About the whole metal, heavy music not being featured in the media. As far as im aware there are countless publications and music stations devoted to metal etc. We recently represented Ireland in the world finals of the BOTB run by an american record label...the band that won the whole thing (million dollar record deal) last year was in fact a metal band who we played with at the finals. There are also music festivals strictly devoted to metal/hard rock music (Ozzfest, Download etc). So my advice would be to go out there and look at the wider picture of the world music scene and find a market for your music overseas. Who cares if local media supported you or not and I don't mean to get at any local media people or anything Im just pointing out that sometimes you need to find your market.

    The UTV program is still a good idea. :D
  112. avatar George W Best
    [quote:e5632385b6="exitonline"]
    About the whole metal, heavy music not being featured in the media... There are also music festivals strictly devoted to metal/hard rock music (Ozzfest, Download etc). [/quote:e5632385b6]

    Yeah but why come Glastonbury, T in the Park, Oxegen, Reading & Leeds and Isle of Wight festival all get huge coverage on mainstream channels like BBC and ITV but Donnington doesn't? Pure overkill of indie fruit music but where's my Metal??
    Sad Old Git's right the media hates Metal!

    In fact the only Metal I have seen on any of the terrestial channels in the past YEAR was when ITV had Bill And Ted on a while back. For shame!
  113. avatar Arcane
    I would far rather hear more good music in genral on the airwaves and TV.

    I dont think the media know what good music is anymore.
    Thats the main issue.
  114. avatar exitonline
    [quote:231dbab1d3="George W Best"]Yeah but why come Glastonbury, T in the Park, Oxegen, Reading & Leeds and Isle of Wight festival all get huge coverage on mainstream channels like BBC and ITV but Donnington doesn't? Pure overkill of indie fruit music but where's my Metal??
    Sad Old Git's right the media hates Metal!

    In fact the only Metal I have seen on any of the terrestial channels in the past YEAR was when ITV had Bill And Ted on a while back. For shame![/quote:231dbab1d3]

    Metal music always was an underground thing it probably always will be, its part of its essence, made that way by the bands and the fans. If metal music was suddently to become mainsteam than all the die hard metal fans would come of with the usual sell-out ribbish becuase its become commercialised and into the mainstream. You'll probably find that Donningtom festivals have been asked for TV coverage rights but they wanted to keep it away from the mainstream. I for one would prefer it this way, why pay a fortune for Glastonbury tickets when you can watch most of the thing on TV. Festivals like Donnigton still retain their sense of mystery and excitment because you have to actually go to it to see it. On the other hand you see bands like Maiden on the TV all the time, I remeber BBC showed one of their live shows as well.

    Generally though, metal music will rarely be shown on primetime TV becuase of its use of bad language and satantic overtones that some people still associate with metal.

    [quote:231dbab1d3="Arcane"]I would far rather hear more good music in genral on the airwaves and TV.

    I dont think the media know what good music is anymore.
    Thats the main issue.[/quote:231dbab1d3]

    It depends on your defination of good music. Some people think westlife is good music...different things for different people. Too many people use this term "good music", surely whats good varies from person to person. Thats why we have the choice to turn off the TV and radio and put on our own CDs DVDs. :lol:
  115. avatar George W Best
    Metal underground? Please!
    Globally I would say Metal is probably the most popular style of music out there. And when you include in False Metal bands like the Chillis and Foo Fighters then there's no doubt about its number one status!

    Metal!!!!!!!!
    Metal!!!!!!!!
    Metal!!!!!!!!
    Metal!!!!!!!!
  116. avatar noble-man
    ha ha im meant to be presenting this show
  117. avatar Arcane
    yeah westlife ammm I think your missing the point.

    There is a big difference between money making machines and actual music is there not?

    Do ATL play westlife?

    There are alot of great bands for sure, but far more over rated crap ones is what im saying dude.
  118. avatar The Fires of Hell
    This thread delivers.
  119. avatar damo_
    More whine pls.

    I hope I never meet any of yous arseholes in real life is all I can say!
  120. avatar T Entertainment
    A showbiz source (and pal) told me that Pamela Ballantine is a MAJOR fan of grindcore, and I hardly think [i:cbf9562fd0]she[/i:cbf9562fd0] is going to let this series ignore her favourite genre.
  121. avatar thehellfireclub
    Satantic fruit music rules.
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  122. avatar Joeplaysthedrums
    Pamela Ballantine was in mchughs one saturday when i was djing.

    She knew every single word of Root Down by Beastie Boys, and was up giving it stacks through the whole track. I don't even know all the words and i've listened to it about 1000 times. Impressive.

    Though tbf, thats hip hop not metal. Metal's shite.
  123. avatar George W Best
    [quote:ecb65d46c0="T Entertainment"]A showbiz source (and pal) told me that Pamela Ballantine is a MAJOR fan of grindcore, and I hardly think [i:ecb65d46c0]she[/i:ecb65d46c0] is going to let this series ignore her favourite genre.[/quote:ecb65d46c0]

    Actually she likes 'Bump and Grind' core.
    Huge Dancehall Ragga fan is our Pamela.
    But even she hates FALSE METAL!
    :smt068 :smt035
    Death to FALSE METAL!!
  124. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    the beatles, they were a good band.
  125. avatar George W Best
    Okay, I think it's time to put all the metallers out of their misery and let them know why the media ignores them.

    Fact is lads you Metallers are consumer-non-grata, you just don't spend enough money for the rest of the world to care about you!
    Your average metallers owns what, two pair of Ł5 jeans and 5 or 6 band t-shirts, and has owned those same few items of clothing for 8, maybe 9 years? Not exactly gonna get the good folks at Top Shop etc desperate to get you into their stores at that rate of going now are you?

    Look at indie music, it only really started getting mainstream exposure when all the indie kids started wasting shitloads of money on wanky hair products. And if there is one thing we know about metallers it's that they really don't give a fuck how their hair looks!

    If you were going to put Donnington on TV who exactly would spend money on air time during the ad breaks?
    Super noodles? Olde English cider? Army surplus shops?

    Fact is lads, if you want a capitalist culture to treat you with respect you gotta start splashing that cash.
    I mean for fucks sake, haven't you ever wondered why metal was so popular in communist Russia?!?!

    But at the same time I have to say DEATH TO FALSE METAL!!!

    :smt070 :smt035 <-- False Metal
  126. avatar Arcane
    You're an idiot.
  127. avatar flmcasey
    This seems like a really good idea.
    But it does seem like the guys at UTV have gone "F**k it! Let's make our own version of ATL TV".

    Imagine if it's on at the same time as ATL when it returns - ratings war of the century. (:

    \m/
  128. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    I heard that Live At The Limelight will be not disimilar to the [url=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OETRX0Jks48&feature=related]finale of Gerry Kelly's New Years Eve Party[/url]

    I'm just saying what I heard like.
  129. avatar The Old New
    I tried. I really tried to read every single post in this topic but it got so irritating and tiresome I had to take a few deep breaths.

    Why can't we just be glad that more local bands are gonna get more coverage no matter what their music style. Team effort is what its all about.

    ATL have/and are doing a bloody brilliant job.

    Equally I'm sure this UTV thing will do well also with many varying acts locally. We'll just have to wait and see.

    As what has been said, if you don't put your name forward and get out there no one's going to notice you and if you aren't noticed first then keep trying. Simple.
  130. avatar Big Homeless
    Is this metal and its ferocious intensity?

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=BARLfUmyBJA

    well?

    my friend treasure island dizzy stresses this as a prime example.
  131. avatar clss_act_00
    nobody's mentioned AU yet, could easily get another 9 pages outta that! :roll:
  132. avatar George W Best
    "False Metal: we don't need it do we?" - Chuck D, 1988.
  133. avatar JTM
    Every One Of Us Has Heard The Call
    Brothers Of True Metal Proud And Standing Tall
    We Know The Power Within Us Has Brought Us To This Hall
    There’s Magic In The Metal There’s Magic Is Us All

    Heavy Metal Or No Metal At All
    Wimps And Posers Leave The Hall
    Heavy Metal Or No Metal At All
    Wimps And Posers Go On Get Out Leave The Hall

    Now The World Must Listen To Our Decree
    We Don’t Turn Down For Anyone We Do Just What We Please
    Got To Make It Louder All Men Play On Ten
    If You’re Not Into Metal You Are Not My Friend Yea

    Heavy Metal Or No Metal At All
    Wimps And Posers Leave The Hall
    Heavy Metal Or No Metal At All
    Wimps And Posers I Said Leave The Hall

    Now The World Must Listen To Our Decree
    We Don’t Turn Down For Anyone
    We Do Just What We Please
    Got To Make It Louder All Men Play On Ten
    If You’re Not Into Metal You Are Not My Friend Yea

    There’s Metal In The Air Tonight Can You Hear It Call
    If You Ain’t Got The Balls To Take It You Can Leave The Hall

    Heavy Metal Or No Metal At All
    Wimps And Posers Leave The Hall
    Heavy Metal Or No Metal At All
    Wimps And Posers Leave The Hall
  134. avatar fopp
    [quote:afff11a38a="Sadoldgit"]same old boo hooo, boy meets girl, boy falls in love, girl leave, boy crys and slits his wrists shite that seems to populate the airways.[/quote:afff11a38a]

    Scene from the indie disco?

    [quote:afff11a38a="Sadoldgit"]killing people and disemboweling them, whilst worshiping the lord of darkness is what NI needs.[/quote:afff11a38a]


    Scene from the metal disco?
  135. avatar fopp
    I remember a bar in Ann Street in town had a short-lived rock night on Fridays about 7 years ago. Either the bar or the night was called The Outer Limits. I never actually made it to see what it was like, by the time I did, the night had been cancelled, apparently because "it was just a load of smelly metallers who never spent any money" or something to that effect.

    Actually might have been goths instead of metallers, but you get the point. If there is one.
  136. avatar campfiredisco
    i hope the irish Gospel scene isnt ignored(as it always is) when UTV are picking the acts..
  137. avatar ShaneK
    I agree. You can't beat a bit of Ghetto Gospel when things are getting you down....
  138. avatar die the flu
    I bet they ignore bands who don't enter, its always the same!!
  139. avatar blonderedhead
    [quote:5f38c6334c="Dirty Stevie Grizz"]I heard that Live At The Limelight will be not disimilar to the [url=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OETRX0Jks48&feature=related]finale of Gerry Kelly's New Years Eve Party[/url]

    I'm just saying what I heard like.[/quote:5f38c6334c]

    Oh god, I really hope it is!!!
  140. avatar Steven Dedalus
    This whole thing is just an affront to local music. See also: ATL Tv.

    I mean, neither of them have bothered getting off their arses to get in touch with me to have me on the show, despite me not having a band at the moment, any songs to play, or any real interest in doing anything musical.

    If they can't be bothered tracking me down, then I have no truck with them at all.
  141. avatar T Entertainment
    Yes but Julian Simmons came out at the weekend in response to [i:061fb39e75]this very thread[/i:061fb39e75]!
  142. avatar huggy baps
    'Live At The Limelight' is no 'Dander With Drennan'.
  143. avatar JTM
    [quote:21c8d55215="T Entertainment"]Yes but Julian Simmons came out at the weekend in response to [i:21c8d55215]this very thread[/i:21c8d55215]![/quote:21c8d55215]

    Woah, really? That dude's been in the closet for near 30 years, well done Fuders! :p

    PS My $0.02 on this thing is that it's a positive thing, I'll probably SkyPlus it.
  144. avatar fastfude
    [url=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=42FwLhCeAQ8]look at him go[/url]
  145. avatar T Entertainment
    It is just me who can't READ (about 90% of) THE FRIGGING WORDS on their myspace page?!

    myspace.com/liveatthelimelight
  146. avatar scott_evil
    [quote:2818724b8b="T Entertainment"]It is just me who can't READ (about 90% of) THE FRIGGING WORDS on their myspace page?!

    myspace.com/liveatthelimelight[/quote:2818724b8b]

    Looks like they heard you!!
  147. avatar p-t-rebel-mc
    Dont you guys like no that metal is like sooo not in this year!!
  148. avatar Loopy Lu
    On a different note I have eagerly been awaiting this production since its announcement not so much for the live acts but to hear/see the 'presenters' and their views etc considering two thirds of them have had little to do with the music scene as a whole:

    "The show’s presenters Mark Noble (26), Katie Larmour (24) and Alana Kerr (24) today called for Irish bands to take part by sending their demos to UTV.

    Alana Kerr is an actress from Belfast...Katie Larmour is a Belfast model..."

    Least with Atl we've got folk who have more than an interest in being a presenter, however, I do realise I am making a massive assumption that these 2are just in it for that reason!
  149. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:b658bbc33c="Loopy Lu"]

    Least with Atl we've got folk who have more than an interest in being a presenter, however, I do realise I am making a massive assumption that these 2are just in it for that reason![/quote:b658bbc33c]

    Is ATL's Rigsy not an actress and model as well?
  150. avatar PaulATL
    he is indeed a MTA turned music presenter. he began working on US Vogue in the 80s, but as his looks have faded, he jumped onto the music bandwagon.
  151. avatar DeliriumTremens
    Katie Larmour is no Katie Price, cause Katie Price is pure stinking and married to a hobbit.
  152. avatar Recycled Alien
    The current "Status" on the Myspace account reads "Live at the Limelight IS CURRENTLY CHOOSING THE ACTS. THE COMPATISION IS NOW CLOSED."

    So. It's one of them models who does the Myspace stuff, is it?
  153. avatar Loopy Lu
    [quote:bb8522d6e7="PaulATL"]he is indeed a MTA turned music presenter. he began working on US Vogue in the 80s, but as his looks have faded, he jumped onto the music bandwagon.[/quote:bb8522d6e7]

    Impressive - it's not easy to make that crossover!! :wink:
  154. avatar exitonline
    [quote:f5d4196f0c="Loopy Lu"]On a different note I have eagerly been awaiting this production since its announcement not so much for the live acts but to hear/see the 'presenters' and their views etc considering two thirds of them have had little to do with the music scene as a whole:

    "The show’s presenters Mark Noble (26), Katie Larmour (24) and Alana Kerr (24) today called for Irish bands to take part by sending their demos to UTV.

    Alana Kerr is an actress from Belfast...Katie Larmour is a Belfast model..."

    Least with Atl we've got folk who have more than an interest in being a presenter, however, I do realise I am making a massive assumption that these 2are just in it for that reason![/quote:f5d4196f0c]

    Im pretty sure that the "presenters" listen to music and have a CD collection therefore, that makes them able to do the job and comment on the music. They dont have to be an "industry insider" or so-called "music expert" to say something about the music. In fact, their views would probably be less biased than a so-called music industry expert as they wont be too worried about staying too close to a perticualr scene, picking their friends bands, bands they are "supposed" to like or people they know from hanging around the scene. As this can often be the case with these things...and God forbid you may get different bands publicised rather than just the usual suspects all the time.

    Besides, they have a music industry professional in Mark Noble. The presenters are there to do just that, present the show and try to give the show more of a professional vibe, rather than some stuffy "music expert" with no personality spouting rubbish whilst trying desperately to do a presenting job...and by the way that comment's not directed at anyone in particular.

    Give the show a chance....there seems to be alot of people lining up to take a cheap shot at the program if don't like the bands on it or the presenters. Its getting Irish music out there which is a good thing.
  155. avatar tinpot anto
    Exit I have one sentence which I'm sure you've heard far too many times in your time in bands, I know I have, normally from people in the judging lineup for BOTB's and TV shows.
    [i:c494681223]
    "Well you know, it's not [u:c494681223]my [/u:c494681223]kind of music, but it has to be said they are pretty good at it. well done!"[/i:c494681223]

    It can't really be defended. People who only own Robbie Williams and Ting Ting CD's are not qualified to comment on the majority of unsigned music.

    And NO he's not joking it does say "COMPATISION" on the myspace!
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  156. avatar T Entertainment
    [quote:fa708409f5="Recycled Alien"]The current "Status" on the Myspace account reads "Live at the Limelight IS CURRENTLY CHOOSING THE ACTS. THE COMPATISION IS NOW CLOSED."

    So. It's one of them models who does the Myspace stuff, is it?[/quote:fa708409f5]

    You are f*cking [i:fa708409f5]joking[/i:fa708409f5], right?


    EDIT:
    You're not. It goes on:

    "We hope all the the acts on myspace will use the live at the limelight sight to promote themselves."

    This does not fill me with confidence, I have to say.
  157. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    :lol: :LOLLERCOASTER!
  158. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:d1a5b0f4af="exitonline"]
    Its getting Irish music out there which is a good thing.[/quote:d1a5b0f4af]

    Unless, of course, it's absolute pap.
  159. avatar T Entertainment
    But even a bad thing - or a pap thing - can be a good thing if you'll just show a little love! You vile hate-ridden man.
  160. avatar Loopy Lu
    I would love to think that the show would assume a more "professional vibe" but my head keeps telling me that this is an 'actress' and 'model' from BELFAST. I am of course reserving full judgement until we've seen them in action. As stated they may listen to music and own a cd collection but how much of this comprises of Irish music I wonder? I listen to music and have a collection moreover I have a keen interest in local music but nowhere near enough to contemplate fronting a show which by and large will require some degree of constructive criticism to come from the presenters in some form!
  161. avatar Captain Kennedy
    But sure they're only gonna be presenting the show. There's no judging or anything like that. Cut them some slack!
  162. avatar tinpot anto
    Are they good looking then?

    8)
  163. avatar exitonline
    [quote:532b3a7b4b="tinpot anto"]It can't really be defended. People who only own Robbie Williams and Ting Ting CD's are not qualified to comment on the majority of unsigned music.[/quote:532b3a7b4b]

    Possibly true. But on the other hand people who own only the most obsure alternative CDs cannot be expected to judge or like music that may not be aternative, dare I say the more commerical end of the market. But yeah we have heard the usual its not my thing but comment. I was just trying to point out that anyone can have an opinion on music, whos to say its right or wrong, taste is subjective.

    But it all doesnt matter anyway as far as I know theres no judging on the show. Its really just like a shop window for the choosen bands to showcase themselves on TV to the best of their abilty.

    [quote:532b3a7b4b="Steven Dedalus"]Unless, of course, it's absolute pap.[/quote:532b3a7b4b]
    Once again taste is subjective. I may hate the music you like and you may think the same of my music taste. Surely the viewers should get the option to be exposed to all types of music and make their own minds up.

    [quote:532b3a7b4b="tinpot anto"]Are they good looking then?

    8)[/quote:532b3a7b4b]
    ha ha...yeah the girl presenters are pleasing on the eye..we have to say...ha ha :D
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  164. avatar tinpot anto
    So the bands are....

    Captain Kennedy
    Exit

    and...... :lol:
  165. avatar exitonline
    [quote:f6733d68e3="tinpot anto"]So the bands are....

    Captain Kennedy
    Exit

    and...... :lol:[/quote:f6733d68e3]

    :lol: yeah I hope we get picked. We would love the opportunity to play on the show.
  166. avatar Captain Kennedy
    [quote:24e1425599="tinpot anto"]So the bands are....

    Captain Kennedy
    Exit

    and...... :lol:[/quote:24e1425599]

    I could live with that!!! :D

    If your watching UTV...... ;-)
  167. avatar T Entertainment
    Call me old fashioned, call me old, call me Shirley F*cking Williams - but seriously, hasn't a show using its myspace as the main outreach / promo vehicle for bands / viewers announcing on that same 'sight' a 'COMPATISION' now being closed [i:bf5355daf3]somewhat[/i:bf5355daf3] undermined its credibility?
    Or is that just pure snabbery / hatecriming?















    Unless it turns out that the wee brother of Live At The Limelight logged in while Live At The Limelight wasn't looking. In that case, fair enough like.
  168. avatar thesacredhearts
    Im reliably informed that this will have no BOTB type scenario to the show itself, its merely a show case of N.Irish acts, shown at prime time.
  169. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:97ab561c60="T Entertainment"]Call me old fashioned, call me old, call me Shirley F*cking Williams - but seriously, hasn't a show using its myspace as the main outreach / promo vehicle for bands / viewers announcing on that same 'sight' a 'COMPATISION' now being closed [i:97ab561c60]somewhat[/i:97ab561c60] undermined its credibility?
    Or is that just pure snabbery / hatecriming? [/quote:97ab561c60]

    No harm Chris, but can you think of any reason why we should give a ballix? It's just a fecking tv show. It's gonna be on tv.

    Why does it matter what it says on the Myspace? I'd imagine most of the target audience will just happen to come across it on tv at half eleven on a tuesday night or whatever.

    As we all keep saying, it's just a show, that'll be on tv, showing bands. It doesn't need to have credibility, or rather, the credibility will come from whether the bands they pick are any good or not.

    I would probably feel different if there were some element of some half-assed w[b:97ab561c60][/b:97ab561c60]anker judging the bands on the show. But then there's not, it's just showing bands, no doubt with some gumptionless presenters talking s[b:97ab561c60][/b:97ab561c60]hite in between.

    You know,like ATL. :P
  170. avatar fastfude
    [quote:d2b26b42d4="Chi-Lite"]with some gumptionless presenters talking s[b:d2b26b42d4][/b:d2b26b42d4]hite in between.[/quote:d2b26b42d4]
    Could some of the tellymeeja types that lurk here explain to me the need for these? They are no small part of the reason I can't sit through most programs without throwing things. Just present the link and stop talking shite at me! You are not my 'mate'!

    Bring back Whispering Bob.
  171. avatar Sadoldgit
    I have to agree with fastfude.

    One of the most cringeworthy bits of telly was a few years ago when UTV did evening "chat" type shows from the NW200.

    Your audience is pretty sophisticated folks.
    I am slightly worried reading the choice of "presenters".

    When I watch something, be it sport or music , I like to see someone with knowledge and enthusiasm, who doesnt talk shite.

    It looks cheesy if those in front of the camera are obviously more interested in getting a little number on the telly...

    The band mix argument is one factor and of course there is a huge responsibility on the bands to give of their best, the sound people to get the best mix possible for the type of music the band are playing [very few people seem to be able to mix rock terribly well - volume doesnt equal good]

    A model and "actress".......please , please let us be wrong!
  172. avatar Chi-Lite
    I, personally, would prefer this show to be presented by half a dozen models and actresses, rather than some beardy, converse-wearing Sonic Youth fan.

    But that's just me
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  173. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:d96ae88c6c="exitonline"]
    Once again taste is subjective. I may hate the music you like and you may think the same of my music taste. Surely the viewers should get the option to be exposed to all types of music and make their own minds up.

    [/quote:d96ae88c6c]

    No, wrong, wrong, wrong.

    I am always right.

    About everything.


    And no-one could not like my musical tastes, I think they're class.
  174. avatar T Entertainment
    "No harm Chris, but can you think of any reason why we should give a ballix? It's just a fecking tv show. It's gonna be on tv."

    Marty, I despise bad spelling and grammar. It's like chewing tinfoil. POB-LEM? :-D

    And I care not for the status of your ballix, whether it is given or witheld, now and for always.
  175. avatar Chi-Lite
    Ha, fair nuff.

    I'm lukking 4ward 2 it, so am. :wink:
  176. avatar pauldoherty
    Yeah looking forward to this,The Vals are doing the first filming on Sept 28th at The Limelight! :D
    Its all good in the hood!
  177. avatar tinpot anto
    So to recap the final lineup will be thus:
    [i:e836d89eae]
    Exit
    Captain Kennedy
    The Jane Bradfords
    The Vals
    Some good looking singer songwriter girl from Armagh
    A pop-punk band from Leitrim
    A metal band from Antrim
    A Dublin singer songwriter guy who's just been dropped from a major label after a rubbish deal.[/i:e836d89eae]

    Edit - mad one i cross posted that at the same time as you there Paul, but I was very right.

    Who'll give me odds on the rest of the lineup? Come on! :lol:
  178. avatar pauldoherty
    Colenso Parade i see also from their gig post....nice one
  179. avatar tinpot anto
    Damn it!

    Here well done like, only having a go at guessing the bands based on the levels of bum licking in this thread
    ;-)

    The Compatision will be Feirce. 8)
  180. avatar pauldoherty
    Marty has been doing a good job of it I see :lol: :lol:
  181. avatar tinpot anto
    I'm still 1 to 5 on, for the dropped singer songwriter from Dublin, and the good looking Armagh girl.

    Come on!
  182. avatar Chi-Lite
    Ha, happy des.

    I heard it's cause they heard about our death metal tendencies.

    mon the death metal.
  183. avatar thesacredhearts
    Now chris, i was hardly bum licking, merely clearing up some of those ideas you're getting into your head.

    Yeah we're playing, and ive only said what i know at this point, mainly because i asked the people involved. Sometimes, just sometimes, thats the best thing to do. :P

    Now more than that i do not know.
  184. avatar TheJaneBradfords
    We're using it as a showcase for our new Industrial Metal direction.
  185. avatar T Entertainment
    er, if that 'Now Chris' is for me, I'd like to point out that I've only posted about the spelling...?!

    Altho, Anto and I are commonly mistaken online. It's easily done :P
  186. avatar tinpot anto
    “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”


    :lol:
  187. avatar thesacredhearts
    Oh dear now i do look silly!

    My point stands, although directed at another antagonist. :P
  188. avatar tinpot anto
    Nah sure, you were licking some serious bum there. :lol:

    I'm 3 out of 8 so far on the basis of bum lick, but I will be disappointed if the good looking Armagh girl does not materialise.

    (you do realise I'm only sleggin like. This sort of show is great for exposure etc. and commerical competition will only force the BBC to up their game etc.)

    Congrats!
  189. avatar thesacredhearts
    If there is bum licking of attractive girls from Armagh or indeed anywhere else, we're happy to be onboard. Or under board. Whatever kinda of position it would be.
  190. avatar Captain Kennedy
    Anto, I think you've put the scud on us ye ballix! Ah well, Blas Ceoil on BBC 2 will have to do!
  191. avatar max power
    My first post!
    have the bands been announced yet? this is the best thing that's happened norn Irish music.
  192. avatar GuitarNerd
    UTV? Whos that United Televised Vootball
  193. avatar Daveitferris
    Has the bands been announced anywhere else at this stage?
    Im really excited to be a part of this, bring on next month!
  194. avatar Chi-Lite
    This should be good then, who have we so far, the joe Vals, MickyColensoParade (on his own), and was that the Jane Bradfords mentioned?

    And DaveitFeris, who's your band again?

    Who else is on the first show with us then, anybody?

    It should be a bit of craic like.

    Friday nights at ten o'clock, I heard. The coveted "Kelly" slot.
  195. avatar Daveitferris
    hey man.
    im doing it as 'daveit ferris' with a backing band, playing more of the 'full band' songs from my second album.

    On the second show it seems.
    Best of luck for the first! let us know how it was!
  196. avatar the_doctor199
    Watd everyone think of it then?

    Soundstone were the best band for me, Deablo take second place, ill not say who were the worst :D

    [img:a42eae80ef]http://www.shoottothrill.co.uk/Images/ConcertImages/UTV/UTV1.jpg[/img:a42eae80ef]
  197. avatar TheJaneBradfords
    I think we win the 'sweatiest band' award by a mile!

    Had great fun playing at this despite a few disastrous technical difficulties...
  198. avatar the_doctor199
    [quote:d94d67b443="TheJaneBradfords"]I think we win the 'sweatiest band' award by a mile!

    Had great fun playing at this despite a few disastrous technical difficulties...[/quote:d94d67b443]

    Check your myspace mail :)

    [img:d94d67b443]http://www.shoottothrill.co.uk/Images/ConcertImages/UTV/Day4/JaneBradfords.jpg[/img:d94d67b443]
  199. avatar TheJaneBradfords
    haha that must have been taken at the start... i'm only slightly sweaty and mingin there!
  200. avatar orionsfire
    nobody told me Daniel Bedingfield was playing???Fuck he really has stooped to a new low...
  201. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:139944f456="the_doctor199"]Watd everyone think of it then?[/quote:139944f456]

    Well, I turned up late, caught the last 30seconds of the only band I really wanted to hear. Those 30seconds were good though.

    Besides that, i thought the rest of the night seemed pretty souless, there was no atmosphere really, it was too bright and hot anywhere within a 10m radius of the stage, and the presenters seemed out of place fashion-wise with the bands playing.
  202. avatar p-t-rebel-mc
    I was playin at day 3. Not squares knocked my socks off and a plastic rose were friggin spiggin well awesome. I thought the Coronas were fucking horrible. They are like the southern Kooks without the lovely fashionable suits or good looks. I dont think I was alone in this as the crowd booed them when they fucked up an intro to one of the songs.

    I have to apologise to the model presenter. We took the complete piss and I am afraid we are gonna look like a shower of bollocks' on tv.
  203. avatar TheJaneBradfords
    [quote:728993d43e]nobody told me Daniel Bedingfield was playing???Fuck he really has stooped to a new low...
    [/quote:728993d43e]

    Good work there fella... that's a new one.
  204. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    Didn't someone say you looked a bit like kate nash once?
  205. avatar p-t-rebel-mc
    kate nash! I see it. haha
  206. avatar TheJaneBradfords
    :'(
  207. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    if it helps, I think she's hot.
  208. avatar pauldoherty
    That was good craic I thought,something different....more of this is needed i think.
    Its good they used all sorts of diferent bands instead of the usual..
    It was the hottest place on earth on that stage.
    Looking forward to seeing it on Oct 27th
    The Vals
  209. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    Yeah it was a brilliant experience, and yes it was so warm on that stage my face was melting off. The bands we played with were brilliant, Not Squares were insane like, blew me away at soundcheck. Ould Plastic Rose were great too, didn't rate The Coronas at all though, dull as dishwater
  210. avatar the_doctor199
    [quote:6c1e36ca14="Mickeycolensoparade"]if it helps, I think she's hot.[/quote:6c1e36ca14]

    +1
  211. avatar pauldoherty
    Looks like the first show will be January 5th or there about....
  212. avatar p-t-rebel-mc
    I hear this bad boy is starting on the 16th of February. Tis aboot time. Im dying to see some of the bands that were on this.
  213. avatar Pavel
    I was down shooting The Beat Poets at one of these nights and three things jumped out at me.

    - first off, and entirely from a fellow director's point of view; you do not fucking tell the crowd what to do every two seconds at one of these. So I fully expect the audience to look altogether fake.

    [i:402037f0ff]"Could everyone move up closer please so it looks like we have more of an audience, thank you..."[/i:402037f0ff]

    - two, it was fantastic having great light for a change, even if it did melt my lens off. It made for some of my favourite photos of 2008.

    - and three, one of the assistant producers was a total cunt to me, (and so I believe, towards Phil O'Kane a few days previously) at one point physically laying his hand on me.

    Now, I'm actually not a fan of being touched like that (oo, er) but thankfully I was there with a friend who quickly intervened and helped to explain the situation.

    Hopefully it turns out well but wasn't this supposed to be broadcast in November?
  214. avatar exitonline
    [quote:226682ad2d="Pavel"]I was down shooting The Beat Poets at one of these nights and three things jumped out at me.

    - first off, and entirely from a fellow director's point of view; you do not fucking tell the crowd what to do every two seconds at one of these. So I fully expect the audience to look altogether fake.

    [i:226682ad2d]"Could everyone move up closer please so it looks like we have more of an audience, thank you..."[/i:226682ad2d]

    - two, it was fantastic having great light for a change, even if it did melt my lens off. It made for some of my favourite photos of 2008.

    - and three, one of the assistant producers was a total cunt to me, (and so I believe, towards Phil O'Kane a few days previously) at one point physically laying his hand on me.

    Now, I'm actually not a fan of being touched like that (oo, er) but thankfully I was there with a friend who quickly intervened and helped to explain the situation.

    Hopefully it turns out well but wasn't this supposed to be broadcast in November?[/quote:226682ad2d]

    The director probably just wanted the crowd to look full and register on camera which is fair enough. Normally at "local" gigs theres an imaginary line that develops between the bar and stage where nobody dares to enter leaving pockets of people everywhere. So the director probably wanted to get one big mass crowd at the front.

    With regards to photographers during filming, if any of the photographers were using flash then this was bound to piss off the film crew. There's nothing more annoying at a gig than a photographer who insists on using the biggest flash gun known to man blinding everyone in the audience and in this case getting in the way of filming. Maybe this is why the producers had an issue with photgraphers. Im also suprised photographers were allowed on the shoot. The last time we done anything for a TV show we had to sign papers regarding rights etc and no cameras or photographers were allowed "on set".
  215. avatar Pavel
    [quote:5dfc9b3c2d="exitonline"]The director probably just wanted the crowd to look full and register on camera which is fair enough. Normally at "local" gigs theres an imaginary line that develops between the bar and stage where nobody dares to enter leaving pockets of people everywhere. So the director probably wanted to get one big mass crowd at the front.[/quote:5dfc9b3c2d]

    Oh, I know what he wanted - but that's not the way to do it. Crowds at recorded gigs come for the music, not the director. If he wanted the crowd to naturally get excited and involved he should have structured the shoot accordingly.

    ..."Dealing With the Public 101".

    [quote:5dfc9b3c2d="exitonline"]With regards to photographers during filming, if any of the photographers were using flash then this was bound to piss off the film crew. There's nothing more annoying at a gig than a photographer who insists on using the biggest flash gun known to man blinding everyone in the audience and in this case getting in the way of filming. Maybe this is why the producers had an issue with photgraphers. Im also suprised photographers were allowed on the shoot. The last time we done anything for a TV show we had to sign papers regarding rights etc and no cameras or photographers were allowed "on set".[/quote:5dfc9b3c2d]

    Ah, but no one was using a flash, and I had been cleared.

    ...and to be honest, and without being picky - 'there's nothing more annoying?' [u:5dfc9b3c2d][i:5dfc9b3c2d][b:5dfc9b3c2d]Really?[/b:5dfc9b3c2d][/i:5dfc9b3c2d][/u:5dfc9b3c2d]

    So if say, the electricity went out and the band couldn't play, or the frontman just stood there drunk, incoherently trying to sing - that wouldn't be [u:5dfc9b3c2d][i:5dfc9b3c2d][b:5dfc9b3c2d]more[/b:5dfc9b3c2d][/i:5dfc9b3c2d][/u:5dfc9b3c2d] annoying?

    ...bit of a sweeping generalisation on your part I believe.
  216. avatar T Entertainment
    Is this still going ahead? UTV has slashed its local output by about half since this was first mentioned, I hope the loot was paid upfront and the cheque has been cashed.

    I thought it was an odd one from the off, simply because it absolutely is not a money spinner in advertising terms...and following Ofcom's latest report they are dumping anything they aren't compelled to make to fulfill a rapidly diminishing public service remit.
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  217. avatar exitonline
    [quote:1dfd8d3249="Pavel"]Ah, but no one was using a flash, and I had been cleared.

    ...and to be honest, and without being picky - 'there's nothing more annoying?' [u:1dfd8d3249][i:1dfd8d3249][b:1dfd8d3249]Really?[/b:1dfd8d3249][/i:1dfd8d3249][/u:1dfd8d3249]

    So if say, the electricity went out and the band couldn't play, or the frontman just stood there drunk, incoherently trying to sing - that wouldn't be [u:1dfd8d3249][i:1dfd8d3249][b:1dfd8d3249]more[/b:1dfd8d3249][/i:1dfd8d3249][/u:1dfd8d3249] annoying?

    ...bit of a sweeping generalisation on your part I believe.[/quote:1dfd8d3249]

    No not really a sweeping generalistion, just an observation. I have seen photographers get dogs abuse at gigs for using huge flash guns. At worse I have seen them getting thrown out of gigs.

    Also I was just stating that "maybe" these could be the reasons why the photographers were getting hassle from the producers of the show.
  218. avatar Pavel
    [quote:0d8ff59ab6="exitonline"]No not really a sweeping generalistion, just an observation. I have seen photographers get dogs abuse at gigs for using huge flash guns. At worse I have seen them getting thrown out of gigs.[/quote:0d8ff59ab6]

    You said, "There's nothing more annoying..." - that's generalising. ;)

    EDIT: ...and sorry if that sounds sharp.

    [quote:0d8ff59ab6="exitonline"]Also I was just stating that "maybe" these could be the reasons why the photographers were getting hassle from the producers of the show.[/quote:0d8ff59ab6]

    Certainly, if a photographer is taking the piss it happens.
  219. avatar the_doctor199
    I got some shit from the producers as well, i had to tell them i was the official photographer before i got even the slightest bit of respect, they were complete tools imo. Now ive had a few months to reflect it all, it was actually a pile of piss, the people running it had clearly never been to a local gig and wanted it to appear more like the kelly show. With a small amount of promotion this could easily have been a big success, free tickets to local bands, and considering the amount of the limelight they had closed off for vip and cameras, it would have only taken about 300 to fill it id say.

    Pavel, i seen the incident happen with you and asked someone at utv after the filming was done that night, aparently the problem was that you were in the wide shot of the venue, thats to the best of my memory anyway.
  220. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:5d61f36071="Pavel"] - first off, and entirely from a fellow director's point of view; you do not fucking tell the crowd what to do every two seconds at one of these. So I fully expect the audience to look altogether fake.

    - two, it was fantastic having great light for a change, even if it did melt my lens off.[/quote:5d61f36071]

    Unfortunately, I think point two led directly to point 1. No-one was going anywhere near the stage because it was too bright and far too hot to stand there for any length of time.
  221. avatar Pavel
    [quote:66239f1f28="the_doctor199"]I got some shit from the producers as well, i had to tell them i was the official photographer before i got even the slightest bit of respect, they were complete tools imo. Now ive had a few months to reflect it all, it was actually a pile of piss, the people running it had clearly never been to a local gig and wanted it to appear more like the kelly show. With a small amount of promotion this could easily have been a big success, free tickets to local bands, and considering the amount of the limelight they had closed off for vip and cameras, it would have only taken about 300 to fill it id say.

    Pavel, i seen the incident happen with you and asked someone at utv after the filming was done that night, aparently the problem was that you were in the wide shot of the venue, thats to the best of my memory anyway.[/quote:66239f1f28]

    I had typed out a whole reply to this, but FastFude deleted it on me...grumble. So in short.

    - ah so the other photo dude was you!
    - really, because I had been chatting to the cameramen about los (line of sight).
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  222. avatar the_doctor199
    [quote:0becaf2f4c]I had typed out a whole reply to this, but FastFude deleted it on me...grumble. So in short.

    - ah so the other photo dude was you!
    - really, because I had been chatting to the cameramen about los (line of sight).
    - line producer was a wanker.
    - producer wasn't, and apologised to me.
    - direction looked shit, speaking as a film maker myself.
    - UTV are shit.[/quote:0becaf2f4c]

    There were two other guys, me and some dude who was on work experience for utv but he shot from the back so you probably didnt see him, so i guess, yeah it was me!
    I duno who was in what role, but the oldish woman was a bitch! Im looking forward to seeing the final product though, from what i seen on the night it looked like a shite version of TOTP. I genuinely hope they do another though, if done right it could be a great chance for local acts to get there name out there, hopefully they take some feedback from the audience and do it right next time.
  223. avatar T Entertainment
    "considering the amount of the limelight they had closed off for vip "

    Were Pamela Ballantine, Paul Martin and Crazy Prices' Jim Megaw present, but safe from the adoring hoardes?
    Hilarious, but completely unsurprising.
  224. avatar the_doctor199
    [quote:e12ede7899="T Entertainment"]"considering the amount of the limelight they had closed off for vip "

    Were Pamela Ballantine, Paul Martin and Crazy Prices' Jim Megaw present, but safe from the adoring hoardes?
    Hilarious, but completely unsurprising.[/quote:e12ede7899]

    Worse, it was the suits from UTV and the presenters
  225. avatar T Entertainment
    Talk about fiddling while Rome burns. Ok, maybe not Rome. Donaghadee. The less 'smart' bits of Helen's Bay at a squeeze.
  226. avatar Chi-Lite
    I don't know, when we played the first night they treated us well, we got a big feed and plenty of drink.

    Maybe you were just being irritating, running about taking pictures when, after all, they're filiming a tv show, with loads of cameras flying about. You were probably getting in the way, whether you had clearance or not.

    But aye, given what's happening in UTV I'm actually surprised they're still showing it...telling that the broadcast date has been put back about three times now.

    Still, we were class on it...I'm looking forward to it.

    As for them doing another one, I seriously couldn't see it like.
  227. avatar tenrabbits
    [quote:d4ae90c105="Pavel"]first off, and entirely from a fellow director's point of view; you do not fucking tell the crowd what to do every two seconds at one of these. So I fully expect the audience to look altogether fake.[/quote:d4ae90c105]

    Err.. not being off - but is that not exactly what it's like at these kind of shows? On some bigger shows clapping had to be done with your hands above your head, as say yer watching some starlet and you clap normally with the camera behind you, then it looks like people are enjoying the view slightly [i:d4ae90c105]too[/i:d4ae90c105] much..
  228. avatar Pavel
    [quote:4d632ee633="Chi-Lite"]Maybe you were just being irritating, running about taking pictures when, after all, they're filiming a tv show, with loads of cameras flying about. You were probably getting in the way, whether you had clearance or not.[/quote:4d632ee633]

    I know, it's really irritating having to do your job ;).
  229. avatar exitonline
    [quote:638acf38f5="Pavel"][quote:638acf38f5="Chi-Lite"]Maybe you were just being irritating, running about taking pictures when, after all, they're filiming a tv show, with loads of cameras flying about. You were probably getting in the way, whether you had clearance or not.[/quote:638acf38f5]

    I know, it's really irritating having to do your job ;).[/quote:638acf38f5]

    Likewise, the crew were just doing their jobs as well and maybe they didnt want any photographers etc (rogue elements) in the shot. It was a TV show after all and not a "proper" gig and as such the Limelight was essentially a film set. Maybe when the producers gave you clearance they thought you were going to be behind the cameras and not near the stage.
  230. avatar Pavel
    [quote:eb9c5b4bc1="exitonline"]Likewise, the crew were just doing their jobs as well and maybe they didnt want any photographers etc (rogue elements) in the shot. It was a TV show after all and not a "proper" gig and as such the Limelight was essentially a film set. Maybe when the producers gave you clearance they thought you were going to be behind the cameras and not near the stage.[/quote:eb9c5b4bc1]

    Maybe this, maybe that.

    ...then, they clearly thought wrong wouldn't you agree - and as sensible production staff should have given me instruction on where I would be limited to.

    ...but lets not get carried away here, I didn't intentionally stand infront of the nearest camera. I was actually standing in the audience at the inner railing - and had asked if it was possible to be in front of the barrier out of the camera's road.

    I don't think you can comment about the 'maybes' if you weren't actually a part of the production team. What Ramsey said is what I'm taking to be the case as he was the official photographer for the event.
  231. avatar T Entertainment
    Who made this, out of interest?
  232. avatar Stiffy
    God I hate forums these days
  233. avatar YLGIMS
    [quote:dcd2e634af="Pavel"][quote:dcd2e634af="exitonline"]Likewise, the crew were just doing their jobs as well and maybe they didnt want any photographers etc (rogue elements) in the shot. It was a TV show after all and not a "proper" gig and as such the Limelight was essentially a film set. Maybe when the producers gave you clearance they thought you were going to be behind the cameras and not near the stage.[/quote:dcd2e634af]

    Maybe this, maybe that.

    ...then, they clearly thought wrong wouldn't you agree - and as sensible production staff should have given me instruction on where I would be limited to.

    ...but lets not get carried away here, I didn't intentionally stand infront of the nearest camera. I was actually standing in the audience at the inner railing - and had asked if it was possible to be in front of the barrier out of the camera's road.

    I don't think you can comment about the 'maybes' if you weren't actually a part of the production team. What Ramsey said is what I'm taking to be the case as he was the official photographer for the event.[/quote:dcd2e634af]


    you have an answer to everything don't you! I've read this whole post and you just seem to spout utter shite, from a directors point of view blah blah blah, what would you know you mad fucknugget.
    It was a TV show, not a photoshoot, none of you should have been taking photos especially not someone with shit skills like youself and Mr shoottobore, the most boring git in Belfast with a camera.
  234. avatar jonnywad
    coming soon -

    utv at the toilets in the front page

    utv at zoe salmons dildo try-outs

    utv at julian simmons anal beading contest
  235. avatar Pavel
    [quote:5def9b388d="YLGIMS"]you have an answer to everything don't you! I've read this whole post and you just seem to spout utter shite, from a directors point of view blah blah blah, what would you know you mad fucknugget.
    It was a TV show, not a photoshoot, none of you should have been taking photos especially not someone with shit skills like youself and Mr shoottobore, the most boring git in Belfast with a camera.[/quote:5def9b388d]

    Agh, you're back - I was beginning to think I'd annoyed you.

    How was the funeral?
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  236. avatar jonnywad
    [quote:c0fa652d58]How was the funeral?[/quote:c0fa652d58]

    i hope it was filmed by utv and will be coming to our screens soon?
  237. avatar Pavel
    [quote:a663fdaf1a="jonnywad"][quote:a663fdaf1a]How was the funeral?[/quote:a663fdaf1a]

    i hope it was filmed by utv and will be coming to our screens soon?[/quote:a663fdaf1a]

    I was there, it was shit. Ramsey got a bollocking for standing too close to the gravestone and 'yer man's grandparents started waving sticks.
  238. avatar YLGIMS
    [quote:eb2bf90c6f="Pavel"][quote:eb2bf90c6f="YLGIMS"]you have an answer to everything don't you! I've read this whole post and you just seem to spout utter shite, from a directors point of view blah blah blah, what would you know you mad fucknugget.
    It was a TV show, not a photoshoot, none of you should have been taking photos especially not someone with shit skills like youself and Mr shoottobore, the most boring git in Belfast with a camera.[/quote:eb2bf90c6f]

    Agh, you're back - I was beginning to think I'd annoyed you.

    How was the funeral?[/quote:eb2bf90c6f]

    I'd take great pleasure inserting your camera and ego up your clearly fully open arse. I can't believe you shovel so much crap on this forum, if nothing else this is evidence that you clearly have no professional or social life, is there a minute of the day you don't talk crap on here?
    and as for your mind dump post, thats all it is, nothing but a great big steaming pile of shite from a kid who thinks hes all grown up, how about you join the real world where you and your camera wud be better off going to the fucking zoo for the day and let some of the other real photographers and filmmakers in the country get some work done, maybe you could also understand in the grown up world i live in with i'm sure quite a few others on this forum that it is not cool to post comments to me slagging me off about my mother who just passed away, not to mention the PM i've recieved on the same subject, catch a grip you little boy.
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  239. avatar Pavel
    [quote:053385fe2c="YLGIMS"]Lets hope i don't run into anytime soon you fucknugget, i'd take great pleasure inserting your camera and ego up your clearly fully open arse.[/quote:053385fe2c]

    So what you're saying is that you are going to assault someone physically because your own comments backfired on you...on the internet?

    Go for it man - I'm quite sure the police would take your posts on here as premeditated assault if that were to be the case, and my insurance company would have a field day with you.

    ...and fairplay to you. You call me childish, yet you're the fellow talking about raising fists. Grow up.

    [quote:053385fe2c]I can't believe you shovel so much crap on this forum, if nothing else this is evidence that you clearly have no professional or social life, is there a minute of the day you don't talk crap on here?
    and as for your mind dump post, thats all it is, nothing but a great big steaming pile of shite from a kid who thinks hes all grown up, how about you join the real world where you and your camera wud be better off going to the fucking zoo for the day and let some of the other real photographers and filmmakers in the country get some work done, maybe you could also understand in the grown up world i live in with i'm sure quite a few others on this forum that it is not cool to post comments to me slagging me off about my mother who just passed away, not to mention the PM i've recieved on the same subject, catch a grip you little boy.[/quote:053385fe2c]

    Yawn lad, seriously...yawn.
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  240. avatar YLGIMS
    go fuck yourself! I hope the bands on here see you for the prick you are! i know all the guys i know on here will never be near you.
  241. avatar Pavel
    [quote:0cbdcddde0="YLGIMS"]go fuck yourself! I hope the bands on here see you for the prick you are! i know all the guys i know on here will never be near you.[/quote:0cbdcddde0]

    Dude no harm to you but you're making [i:0cbdcddde0]yourself[/i:0cbdcddde0] look like the prick - you came on here and attempted to insult not only me but Ramsey as well, and it backfired on you when I gave you a wee dose of your own medicine.

    ...and honestly, I'll lose no sleep over your contacts because if they hold weight in your opinion, well - I'll let that speak for itself.

    Good night, and good luck to you my anonymous friend - an anonymous opinion holds about as much stock as Woolworths.
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  242. avatar electriccircus
    im looking foward to this. i wish all the bands much success on this. its hard work to get out of the local scene.

    "The old get older, the young get stronger...may take a week. it may take longer."
  243. avatar Amz
    Moderators? Anybody? Nah?

    I'll have a wee watch of this meself. I thought it had actually been aired already for some reason. Though my ability to watch programs in 'real time' through a telly box is questionable, and I'll probably forget.
  244. avatar YLGIMS
    [quote:15eef83f75="Pavel"][quote:15eef83f75="YLGIMS"]go fuck yourself! I hope the bands on here see you for the prick you are! i know all the guys i know on here will never be near you.[/quote:15eef83f75]

    Dude no harm to you but you're making [i:15eef83f75]yourself[/i:15eef83f75] look like the prick - you came on here and attempted to insult not only me but Ramsey Cardy as well, and it backfired on you when I gave you a wee dose of your own medicine.

    ...and honestly, I'll lose no sleep over your contacts because if they hold weight in your opinion, well - I'll let that speak for itself.

    Good night, and good luck to you my anonymous friend - an anonymous opinion holds about as much stock as Woolworths.

    EDIT: Frigging hell Ramsey, your second name's a bitch to spell lol - I had to go and look it up :lol:.[/quote:15eef83f75]

    always full of jokes, eh!
    and let me tell you this kid, i'm not making a prick of myself. Whats with defending someone else here??? Ramsy is a big boy i'm sure, do you clean his ass for him to..... didn't think so, so don't be a dick and fight your own corner.



    rite on electriccircus, btw... your band rocks, seen you a couple of times!!!
  245. avatar Siouxsie Tremolo
    Here Matt I think yr a pretty sound guy and all but yr coming off like a dick here. No one is picking on you personally so stop giving out personal attacks on other users. You offer your view point, others respond differently, suddenly there's a flamewar on our hands. Not Necessary. At All.

    Back to the topic though, I worked in the venue while this series was shot and have to say the team were some of the rudest humans it has ever been my misfortune to encounter. I know that doesn't reflect on the final broadcast (whenever that may happen) but it made them a lot of enemies. Not only were their presenters models with no interest in music but the guys in charge weren't interested in the bands playing.

    Sample overheard conversation (and you couldn't help but overhear the conversations since they took up the entire complex during the day):
    Producer type: "This band Ed Zealous have some kind of publishing deal or something in the works and they want us to mention it in the interviews"
    Model Presenter: "What's a publishing deal?"
    Producer type: "I don't know, I mean they're on myspace already but it's something to do with getting their music heard"
    Model Presenter: "OK so neither of us know or care but how's my make up?"

    etc etc I had to walk away so many times so I didn't hit one or more of them.

    Sorry. Five month fermented rant over.
  246. avatar Wakeuphate.com
    This is fucking hilarious...


    Must say though, there is no high-horse in photography in Belfast, or anywhere to be honest. Personally if i was at this, I'd do what i was told and not complain.

    When you're given a photo pass, you're told what you can and cant do e.g. 3songs/no flash so what makes this any different? - They have given you permission to take photos, it's up to them. If I'm told someone doesn't like what I'm doing etc. I'll stop it, like most people are saying here, the gig is exactly what's advertised, its a music gig(TV show in this case), not a photo shoot. You're there because they allowed it, and therefore you work by their rules, as annoying as they may be.
  247. avatar thelithopedion
    Sorry if this has been stated already, but was this gig the kind that punters paid into, or was it one of those "apply for free tickets" affairs?

    And on the topic, Pavel, were you being paid for what you were doing?
  248. avatar the_doctor199
    [quote:4b1929b372="thelithopedion"]Sorry if this has been stated already, but was this gig the kind that punters paid into, or was it one of those "apply for free tickets" affairs?

    And on the topic, Pavel, were you being paid for what you were doing?[/quote:4b1929b372]

    It was free entry, although there was no advertising (that im aware of anyway) for it apart from the bands themselves and on the utv site.
  249. avatar Chi-Lite
    It was free tickets. Must say, when we played the crew weren't telling the crowd anything, the place was packed out the door, and the crowd was packed up against the stage anyway, even though they were getting lashed with my sweat.

    As far as i can make out, the crew were setting up the sound and recording devices, and using them to film a tv show. That was it. And it was their show...they'd booked the venue, and laid on the food and drink. if your man got in the way, they probably just told him to move out of the way.

    I
  250. avatar tinpot anto
    Go on ya big bum lick ya.

    Sounds like a couple of jobsworths thought they had a free reign to be pig-ignorant to me.
  251. avatar T Entertainment
    I gather this is indeed going ahead, in February.
  252. avatar Cake
    Jim Mcgaw - now there's a man.
  253. avatar T Entertainment
    Don't YOU miss it, Cake!

    Apparently he got into turning up to surprise Mrs Kelly of Cookstown with a brand new Austin Maestro after being caught up in an armed robbery carried out by the RA, and going a bit, well, funny for a while.
    He was as much a part of local eighties TV as warnings for keyholders to check their premises, and Great Stuff This Bass ads.
  254. avatar tinpot anto
    Police Six? Allied Carpets? Cameron's of Ballymena? Skandia only 100 yds from this cinema?
  255. avatar rentaghost
    Anderson and MacAuleys
    Brands and Normans
    Supermac

    Jim Megaw still owes my ma an Austin Maxi, complete with 8-track
  256. avatar my-angel-rocks
    Zavvi, Woolworths...how we miss them :smt010
  257. avatar rentaghost
    Jumpers for goalposts.
    Simpler times indeed
  258. avatar T Entertainment
    Simpler times, better times.
    Instead of Fastfude we had a grubby but honest musicians wanted noticeboard in Crymble's, Dave Sinton's angry yet compassionate bark and Tiberius' Minnows playing everywhere, always.

    Then YOU MANIAC, YOU BLEW IT UP!
    You know who I mean.
  259. avatar pauldoherty
    As far as I remember this was a great night and gig.We did the first night(boul Vals,Jackson Cage,Joe Echo and Soundstone) and it was rammed and all the people there where well up for it and boppin away at the front. The people running the show where also sound and very helpful,no complaints at all. and thats not even being a ball-licker :lol: ...just stating the truth Ruth....
    I havent a clue about the other nights though...
    Again,anything that promotes local music to a higher level is a good thing....
  260. avatar fopp
    Leisure world.
  261. avatar pauldoherty
    Truly Fare
  262. avatar Chi-Lite
    Frankie Cackills
  263. avatar I'mDead
    Our Price

    Makin' Tracks
  264. avatar tinpot anto
    SCOOP-A-MARKET

    why did that close? surely in these environmentally conscious times it's a winning formula.

    Oh right the giant rats.
  265. avatar Chi-Lite
    :lol:

    Those were the days when half a pound of Bombay mix was a [i:a91bd5ef11]man's[/i:a91bd5ef11] meal
  266. avatar goatboy
    Scoop-a-market places still exist.

    I live about a 5 minute walk away from one. It looks pretty horrible though and I've never been in, despite how tempting a tonne of Bombay Mix might sound.
  267. avatar thelithopedion
    As a small vegetarian child, I was fond of the Scoop-a-Market next to Wyse Byse, which it would seem has also gone down the chute.

    Thank frig Glovers is still around... :roll:
  268. avatar Deestroyer
    Wimpy's, Hectors House, Getting searched going into castle court, bomb scares in the town, soldiers with automatic rifles walking up your street, the cassette singles section in Virgin megastore, getting on the bus as an under sixteen then getting into bars as an over eighteen on the same night, drinking carryouts in crescent park, scraping with spides, the L-shaped pool table in the elms, the good oul days...
  269. avatar pauldoherty
    bottles a' bing.....
  270. avatar BinaryOperator
    Crymbles, oh yesh!
    Marcus in North Street with the guitars upstairs.
    Caroline music
    That record shop in the fountain centre where you'd get your shitty iron maiden t-shirts printed up, and your sister would get her Bros jacket printed up. Your sister. Oh yes.
    Leisure world lookin at the skateboards before heading down the art college and then getting kicked out of city hall.
    Wimpy!
    "Curry chip!!, what is that foreign muck?" - my ma, 1985.
    Boiling then freezing then boiling my bass strings cuz I couldn't afford new ones.

    halcyon days.

    5 deals and botanic park

    hoffmeister on offer.

    this monkey's gone to heaven and temple of love in the slimeshite

    Vicos pints of cider from a plastic bottle. Playing upstairs to a crowd of headbangers and then watching your audience disappear for the last bus.
  271. avatar Chi-Lite
    I'm getting a taste for battles of bing these days.

    Up until a cupla months ago i hadn't drank cider since I was 14, and then it was White Star, but I've a desperate oul hankering for lovely pints of magners this weather. It must be the summer.
  272. avatar rentaghost
    Wouldn't it be grate if it was like this all the time?
  273. avatar tinpot anto
    It is like this all the time, that's what's wrong with it.

    [quote:1c59f3d8ca]SCOOP-A-MARKET

    why did that close? surely in these environmentally conscious times it's a winning formula.

    Oh right the giant rats. [/quote:1c59f3d8ca]

    And the handfuls of spide pubes in the rice krispies.
  274. avatar T Entertainment
    "Boiling then freezing then boiling my bass strings cuz I couldn't afford new ones."


    :lol:


    I remember doing that so well...like robotic spagetti.
  275. avatar Deestroyer
    [quote:8165f0b601="tinpot anto"]

    And the handfuls of spide pubes in the rice krispies.[/quote:8165f0b601]

    Ha, but why spide pubes?

    What about yer lads on the street, "l'xtra, l'xtra, tele, l'xtra, tele!!"

    I wonder if he ever sold one... And the market stalls outside Castle Court, whatever happened to those. The iron fist of the state I suppose...
  276. avatar fopp
    I remember hearing that they were shouting "Sixth Late", could be a lot of cleaveland steamer though.
  277. avatar Siouxsie Tremolo
    [quote:8fdc898da7="BinaryOperator"]this monkey's gone to heaven and temple of love in the slimeshite[/quote:8fdc898da7]

    Are you reminiscing about last decade or last night? Hard to tell...
  278. avatar my-angel-rocks
    You mean they've stopped playing Debaser?
  279. avatar Wakeuphate.com
    The big fucking gate manned by the army facing the city hall.

    in regards to the telegraph sellers. the FIIIIIIIIII LIIIGHTERS FOR A POOOOUUNNNN guys. - The lighters that worked once then either exploded in your hands or the flint fell out.
  280. avatar BinaryOperator
    [quote:5a11fcd665="Chi-Lite"]I'm getting a taste for battles of bing these days.

    Up until a cupla months ago i hadn't drank cider since I was 14, and then it was White Star, but I've a desperate oul hankering for lovely pints of magners this weather. It must be the summer.[/quote:5a11fcd665]

    Ahhh "White" cider. First it was merrydown then onto white lightning and white knight, almost like merrydown was a "gateway" cider, lol. I have no idea how I ever drank that stuff, but I did :)
  281. avatar Deestroyer
    Aye, there used to be vegetable and flower stalls in castle street too, and a guy selling flowers outside BHS, all shoutin the place down with what you could purchase for a "pooooooooouuuuuuuun", and called ya 'love' if they were female and 'son' if you they were male (and you were male). I miss those guys.
  282. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:cb1d39972b="Deestroyer"]Aye, there used to be vegetable and flower stalls in castle street too.[/quote:cb1d39972b]

    Still joe there. i think half yous cunts don't live here anymore, you've probably all moved to Beverly Hills
  283. avatar T Entertainment
    Beverly Estate in Carnmoney, more like.
  284. avatar The Grace Jones
    I'll slap you, Lindsay.
  285. avatar T Entertainment
    Beverly shops was where you went for a slap in my day.
  286. avatar Daveitferris
    This was a well-done Tv-Show in My Opinion.
    The staff and Producers were friendly, introduced themselves to me and my backing band, genuinely seemed to care about how "we" wanted to sound and were just allround lovely guys.

    I fail to see how they could have´seemed otherwise.

    And im glad to see this broadcast, Finally.

    x
  287. avatar PhatBob
    NNnnooooooo!!! Have I missed this then?
  288. avatar tenrabbits
    [quote:1ddf4da52e="T Entertainment"]Beverly shops was where you went for a slap in my day.[/quote:1ddf4da52e]

    The 70s are long gone now tho T.
  289. avatar adamb1026
    Was at the not squares, a plastic rose..... recording.

    Good night and as people have previously said it was a free gig.

    I did feel sorry for the guy who had to get the crowd going, but if i want to stand at the back, then he should appreciate that. They have to make it look full, fair enugh, but don't force people into moving.

    Hopefully it will air on some form or another.
  290. avatar T Entertainment
    Four shows in February, I was telt.
  291. avatar jonnywad
    i predict that 'utv at the limelight' will win 19 baftas.
  292. avatar adamb1026
    [quote:99396556c5="jonnywad"]i predict that 'utv at the limelight' will win 19 baftas.[/quote:99396556c5]

    are u kidding???? 25 definatley.....
  293. avatar the_doctor199
    [quote:51b4015e37="T Entertainment"]Four shows in February, I was telt.[/quote:51b4015e37]

    Any dates? The original idea was four Monday nights in a row at around 10.45 i think
  294. avatar T Entertainment
    That sounds right, cos I heard 16th mentioned.
  295. avatar pauldoherty
    Seen the ad on tv there on Saturday night during the boul Harry Hill....it says coming soon,but the date is Feb 16th.Watch out for Marty's Sonny Corleone impression on it.... :lol:
  296. avatar T Entertainment
    How boul was the ad? Quite boul or very boul?
  297. avatar Chi-Lite
    Half as boul as your da, and two-thirds more boul than your ma.



    Boul/(your ma X your Da) = feck away aff would ye.
  298. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    anyone saw the ads yet?
  299. avatar huggy baps
    Yep, looks terrible! Didn't think much of the bands on it either, but i'll no doubt watch it when it's finally aired.
  300. avatar the_doctor199
    This is finally kicking off, first show on Wed 18 Feb at 10.35pm with another three one hour shows following.