1. avatar fastfude
    [quote:2b4d5d764a]COLOMBO, Sri Lanka - Arthur C. Clarke, a visionary science fiction writer who co-wrote "2001: A Space Odyssey" and won worldwide acclaim with more than 100 books on space, science and the future, died Wednesday, an aide said. He was 90.
    Clarke, who had battled debilitating post-polio syndrome since the 1960s, died at 1:30 a.m. in his adopted home of Sri Lanka after suffering breathing problems, aide Rohan De Silva said.[/quote:2b4d5d764a]
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080318/ap_on_en_ot/obit_clarke

    This man came up with both my favourite [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendezvous_with_Rama]book[/url] and [url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062622/]film[/url] of all time, and the technology that allowed us to communicate worldwide in realtime. Leg-end.
  2. avatar crouchingferret
    Indeed. I read Rendezvous With Rama over Christmas, and for those unfamiliar with him I'd recommend the 2001/The Sentinel/Childhood's End sequels 2061 and 3001. Genius, and surprisingly funny too.
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  3. avatar Recycled Alien
    [quote:990690faa1="fastfude"][Came up with]... the technology that allowed us to communicate worldwide in realtime.[/quote:990690faa1]He didn't, actually. He didn't even invent the concept, although his article in [i:990690faa1]Wireless World[/i:990690faa1] in 1945 did promote the idea. (Generally credited to Potocnik in 1928.)

    The other thing is that most telephone calls today travel by cable, not satellite. You can tell on those occasions when you [i:990690faa1]do[/i:990690faa1] get a satellite link by the time delay.
  4. avatar I'mDead
    Anthony Minghella died yesterday too. Poor oul Arthur C never quite made it to see 2010 then...
  5. avatar rinky
    [quote:69e7f21fc5="Recycled Alien"][quote:69e7f21fc5="fastfude"][Came up with]... the technology that allowed us to communicate worldwide in realtime.[/quote:69e7f21fc5]He didn't, actually. He didn't even invent the concept, although his article in [i:69e7f21fc5]Wireless World[/i:69e7f21fc5] in 1945 did promote the idea. (Generally credited to Potocnik in 1928.)

    The other thing is that most telephone calls today travel by cable, not satellite. You can tell on those occasions when you [i:69e7f21fc5]do[/i:69e7f21fc5] get a satellite link by the time delay.[/quote:69e7f21fc5]

    Except that Clarke applied the concept to telecommunications, therefore it's true to say he was at least in part responsible for the technology. The fact that cables have succeeded satellite technology adds nothing to your argument other than reinforcing the fact you are this forum's most ridiculously misfiring smartarse.


    RIP Arthur
  6. avatar kingmob
    And Captain Birdseye. A sad day for fish finger loving, movie adaptations of novels adoring geeks.
  7. avatar George W Best
    I wonder if, now that he's dead, the truth will come out about his 'fondness' of tanned young boys.
  8. avatar fastfude
    Are we still talking about Captain Birdseye? Those ads were a bit suggestive alright.
  9. avatar fastfude
    Clarke madea Youtube video to say cheerio on his 90th birthday.
    A bit touching to a hopeless geek like me:
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3qLdeEjdbWE

    [img:60752a0369]http://www.tveap.org/news/0712art_06.jpg[/img:60752a0369]
  10. avatar George W Best
    Et tu Fastfude?
    I was aware that recently departed had help from his friend Mr Murdoch in stopping any stories about him getting out but never would have suspected that their influence spread to this website too!
  11. avatar trepanner
    Stories that Mr Murdoch managed to prevent from entering the sphere of the world's media but which still made it to your ears, and you then guarded the secret closely for all these years before deciding a Belfast music forum's "RIP" thread was the perfect time and place to bring this vast conspiracy to the world at large?

    Or b) you're just being a knob?
  12. avatar Recycled Alien
    [quote:0c43ed548a="rinky"]Except that Clarke applied the concept to telecommunications, therefore it's true to say he was at least in part responsible for the technology. The fact that cables have succeeded satellite technology adds nothing to your argument other than reinforcing the fact you are this forum's most ridiculously misfiring smartarse.[/quote:0c43ed548a]And you are an ignorant and inconsequential toerag with the manners of a barbary baboon. :D
  13. avatar Warren Drugs
    He'll take that as a compliment you know.
  14. avatar Baelmammon
    I credit Nikola Tesla as the thought conceptualiser of wireless technology
    R.I.P
    Mr Clarke & Mr Birdseye
  15. avatar Portadown News Editor
    2010 was a much more entertaining film than 2001.
    There. I've said it.
  16. avatar kingmob
    2001 is shít and Kubrick is a wildly overrated director.

    There. I've topped it.
  17. avatar T Entertainment
    Yeah, well obviously it's no I Heart Huckabees or The Royal Tennanbaums or Juno or DIY Documentary On This Year's Ladyfest By Some Girl Propellor Hat Wearing Boys Would Like To Bone.

    Or put another way:

    [size=24:edba62f304]YOU COULD HARDLY BE MORE F*CKING WRONG. [/size:edba62f304]
    Aside from 2001, The Shining and Dr Strangelove are two of the finest movies ever made. You don't deserve those eyes!
  18. avatar The Ronster
    [quote:9eb03b16f1="Portadown News Editor"]2010 was a much more entertaining film than 2001.
    There. I've said it.[/quote:9eb03b16f1]

    Entertaining? Yes?

    Thoughtful and groundbreaking? Not at all.

    Love them both though.

    Oh, and I think I love every Kubrick fillum. YES! INCLUDING EYES WIDE SHUT! OK!?
  19. avatar Zwaddap_deep_doo
    [quote:8ad15ac7ea="kingmob"]2001 is shít and Kubrick is a wildly overrated director.

    There. I've topped it.[/quote:8ad15ac7ea]

    How gauche.
  20. avatar fastfude
    [quote:2561052976="Portadown News Editor"]2010 was a much more entertaining film than 2001.
    There. I've said it.[/quote:2561052976]
    my gauntlet, sir. My seconds will be in touch with your seconds.
  21. avatar Zwaddap_deep_doo
    [quote:5f457e81fa="The Ronster"]
    Oh, and I think I love every Kubrick fillum. YES! INCLUDING EYES WIDE SHUT! OK!?[/quote:5f457e81fa]

    *hug*
  22. avatar George W Best
    [quote:3da28c515c="trepanner"]Stories that Mr Murdoch managed to prevent from entering the sphere of the world's media but which still made it to your ears, and you then guarded the secret closely for all these years before deciding a Belfast music forum's "RIP" thread was the perfect time and place to bring this vast conspiracy to the world at large?

    Or b) you're just being a knob?[/quote:3da28c515c]

    Eh?
    Have you ever read anything about the man's private life?
    Rumours have been knocking about for years.
    He didn't spend 24 hours a day sitting a room inventing the future you know, he did other stuff too.
  23. avatar fastfude
    ah, conclusive proof there. Or unfounded balls based on tabloid mud-slinging.

    If you have proof, let's hear it. If you have nothing better than "everybody knows" rumour, withdraw it.
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  24. avatar The Grace Jones
    On the last page it was "the truth", and now it's just "rumours"?

    If we get to page three you'll be printing a front page retraction and giving a big payout to Team C Clarke.
  25. avatar George W Best
    If you re-read my posts again you will see that I said that I [i:101acd03b6]wondered[/i:101acd03b6] if the truth will come out now that he's dead. The reason I say 'the truth' is because a few articles I have read about him (and one documentary about him which remember seeing years ago on Channel 5 IIRC) have certainly alluded to the fact that he spent a lot of time in the company of young boys while in Sri Lanka.

    I am not saying for a second that I know for a fact that he did anything inappropriate with these boys but I do think that now that he's dead stories will now start to come out about his private life that wouldn't have been published while he was alive.
  26. avatar The Grace Jones
    [quote:9f62a94e99="George W Best"]I wonder if, now that he's dead, the truth will come out about his 'fondness' of tanned young boys.[/quote:9f62a94e99]

    [quote:9f62a94e99="George W Best"]Et tu Fastfude?
    I was aware that... [/quote:9f62a94e99]

    Um, [i:9f62a94e99]you[/i:9f62a94e99] have read your own posts too, presumably? For f*cks sake dude, they're right there, down to the alleged boy's complexions! You [i:9f62a94e99]were aware[/i:9f62a94e99] of [i:9f62a94e99]the truth[/i:9f62a94e99] of a rumour that you saw on a Channel 5 documentary. Utterly bloody compelling, the jury will surely not deliberate for long. And further, as a retraction the above is even clumsier than your previous wind-ups, 3/10, try a lot f*cking harder.
  27. avatar George W Best
    [url]http://www.rediff.com/news/1998/feb/02clarke.htm[/url]

    And while I know that the Sunday Mirror retracted that Mr Clarke was ever a committed paedophilia, whether or not he had a thing for boys remained ambiguous.
  28. avatar artofdarkness
    The only part of that article that I paid attention to was the bit about Sri Lanka getting around to updating its child protection laws sometime around 1995:

    [i:c01f3073aa]She said that a bill replaced a 1983 law, under which abuse of children below the age of 12 was an offence, [b:c01f3073aa]though the child was equally guilty as the perpetrator[/b:c01f3073aa].[/i:c01f3073aa]

    Never mind claims that Arthur C Clarke was helping to project Sri Lanka "as a paradise for paedophiles" - the country's legislation has been acting as a good enough travel brochure all on its own.

    I'm far more disgusted with a country that's seen fit to have had laws like the above in its recent past, than the supposed and unconfirmed actions of one individual.
  29. avatar tinpot anto
    SCORSESE IS THE MOST-OVERRATED DIRECTOR EVER.

    Kubrick is a close second (Dr Strangelove being an obvious exception, but here Sellers more than Kubrick, really)

    I mean it.

    :)
  30. avatar George W Best
    The thing that gets me about The Sunday Mirror retraction was that they went from saying that they had a tape of Arthur C Clarke saying the things quoted in the article to the retraction without any mention if a tape ever did exist in the first place.

    The cited a Sri Lankan police investigation as the reason for the retraction but actually could the police investigate if no names of children that had been molested were given?

    And why did no other media outlet ever question what happened to the original tape, is it because Clarke was so pally with Murdoch and Ted Turner?
  31. avatar fastfude
    ah, conclusive proof there. Or unfounded balls based on tabloid mud-slinging.

    If you have proof, let's hear it. If you have nothing better than "everybody knows" rumour, withdraw it.
  32. avatar George W Best
    Are you serious?
    Of course I have no 'proof', but do you not think the Sunday Mirror retraction was suspicious?
    To suddenly going from a position where they said that they had a taped conversation of him admitting to being a paedophile to a full retraction, without going to court or paying any damages seems a bit fishy to me.

    Honestly what are the chances of a major newspaper printing serious allegations like that and claim to have it all on tape for it all to be false? There would be no way that could have got past the legal department if they didn't have the physical tape to back it up.

    Was there a taped conversation to being with? Now that he is dead will more detials of this conversation come out?
    When he did more to Sri Lanka it was something of a paedo's paradise so that further raises suspicion.

    So in summary, while some people are here are quick to say what a great man he was, personally I have my doubts, and firmly believe we will find out a bit more about him in the coming months now that the threat of libel action is not there.
  33. avatar Steven Dedalus
    Maybe then it's better to seperate the man from the work, and try and celebrate the work?

    It's like Woody Allen; I love the movies, but find the man a bit sinister.

    Not that I'm alleging anything about Arthur C Clarke, like...
  34. avatar fastfude
    ah, conclusive proof there. Or unfounded balls based on tabloid mud-slinging.

    If you have proof, let's hear it. If you have nothing better than "everybody knows" rumour, withdraw it.
  35. avatar trepanner
    [img:b5c31d00f4]http://lolthulhu.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/thecubist-i_see_what_you.gif[/img:b5c31d00f4]
  36. avatar George W Best
    Okay then Mr Fastfude, do you or do yo not think the circumstances around the Sunday Mirror's retraction( suspicious?
    If there are doubts about this retraction and the tape did actually exist a taped converastion with Arthur C Clarke where he says he has had sex with boys) would that not constitute as proof?
    Do the course of events not at least hint at some sort of cover up?
  37. avatar trepanner
    If unicorns actually existed, I'd ride one to work.
  38. avatar fastfude
    If the entirety of your claims hinge on whether there was any truth in a tabloid newspaper's scandal column, then I have some magic beans on special discount that you need to buy!
  39. avatar Zwaddap_deep_doo
    [quote:c1b1c474a2="tinpot anto"]SCORSESE IS THE MOST-OVERRATED DIRECTOR EVER.

    Kubrick is a close second (Dr Strangelove being an obvious exception, but here Sellers more than Kubrick, really)

    I mean it.

    :)[/quote:c1b1c474a2]

    You seem to enjoy letting yourself down a bagful.

    OVERRATED IS THE MOST-OVERRATED ATTACK ON ANYONES ABILITY.
  40. avatar George W Best
    That's not what I'm saying at all.
    I am saying that at one point The Sunday Mirror were saying that they had a taped conversation where Arthur C Clarke admitted to having sex with boys.
    No one has ever come back and said that this tape never existed only that the Sri Lankan police could not find any evidence that he had committed any crimes.

    So to dismiss this as 'tabloid scandal' seems to me to be an eagerness to whitewash over the cracks.
  41. avatar Chi-Lite
    Ach [i:2c51986e7c]who gives a horse's ballick.[/i:2c51986e7c]
    F[b:2c51986e7c][/b:2c51986e7c]uck I'm bored
  42. avatar fastfude
    yes, but

    [quote:8d68e01ef5]Police sought the tape recording of an interview conducted by the Sunday Mirror on which it based its allegation that Sir Arthur had sex with children, but the paper had not responded to repeated requests, said CR De Silva, the Sri Lankan government additional solicitor-general.
    "We have approached Interpol. Our embassy in London did its best. In short, we did everything, but the tape has not come," de Silva said.
    "Our investigations in Sri Lanka have not found any evidence against him.
    ...
    Sri Lanka asked Interpol in April to get the interview tape from the newspaper. A reminder was sent a month later. The Sri Lankan High Commission in London also attempted to get the tape from the Sunday Mirror.[/quote:8d68e01ef5]
    http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/1998/08/13/fhead.htm

    So at the first basic test of their claims, the Mirror folded? Could it be that there was no tape and they were just fishing for scandal as he was due to be knighted?
  43. avatar George W Best
    [quote:d754b062fb="Chi-Lite"]Ach [i:d754b062fb]who gives a horse's ballick.[/i:d754b062fb]
    [/quote:d754b062fb]

    Personally I do give a horse's ballick if the media are responsible for covering up the activities of paedophiles. When it comes to that sort of thing, I'd like to know the truth.
  44. avatar zebulon
    [quote:261541e42c="George W Best"]Personally I do give a horse's ballick if the media are responsible for covering up the activities of paedophiles.[/quote:261541e42c]The tabloid media [i:261541e42c]covering up[/i:261541e42c] the activities of paedophiles?
    That'd be a bit of a turn-up for the books.
  45. avatar die the flu
    [quote:3269673df2]Of course I have no 'proof'[/quote:3269673df2]

    What's the difference between proof and 'proof'?

    I would say that a complete retraction by a newspaper of a story is more likely to point towards it having been impossible for them to substantiate the story was true (normally because it wasn't).
  46. avatar zebulon
    [quote:5b10385ed0="die the flu"]What's the difference between proof and 'proof'?[/quote:5b10385ed0]Proof doesn't have the [i:5b10385ed0]truthiness[/i:5b10385ed0] of 'proof', that's what.

    [quote:5b10385ed0="die the flu"]I would say that a complete retraction by a newspaper of a story is more likely to point towards it having been impossible for them to substantiate the story was true (normally because it wasn't).[/quote:5b10385ed0]Scenewrecker.
  47. avatar Zwaddap_deep_doo
    'truth' per se.
  48. avatar trepanner
    [quote:d9f9c80161="George W Best"]
    Personally I do give a horse's ballick if the media are responsible for covering up the activities of paedophiles. When it comes to that sort of thing, I'd like to know the truth.[/quote:d9f9c80161]

    I [i:d9f9c80161]nearly[/i:d9f9c80161] thought this was too easy and obvious, [i:d9f9c80161]nearly[/i:d9f9c80161].

    [img:d9f9c80161]http://www.currybet.net/images/blog2007/20071125_paedofinder.jpg[/img:d9f9c80161]
  49. avatar kingmob
    [url=http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/article3587168.ece]Clarke being quoted in today's Times (not from beyond the grave)[/url]

    [quote:deea29e704]Clarke had allegedly told a newspaper reporter that he did not know how old his sexual partners had been, but that “most of them had reached puberty”. Asked whether it was morally wrong, it is claimed that he replied: “No. I mean, it depends on the country. You can’t have absolute morality.”

    He declined to sue the newspaper, saying that it would be a waste of time and money. He said that the allegations were “not aimed specifically at me but designed to embarrass Prince Charles”, and that he had not been sexually active for more than 20 years.

    He issued a more robust denial later: “Having always had a particular dislike of paedophiles, few charges can be more revolting to me than to be classed as one. The allegations are wholly denied. My conscience is perfectly clear.” [/quote:deea29e704]
  50. avatar George W Best
    So let's re-examine the facts

    Arthur C Clarke divorces his wife and moves to a country with laws about paedophilia which are less strict than in his homeland.

    He never remarries.

    Whilst in this country he gives an interview where his states
    'he did not know how old his sexual partners had been, but that “most of them had reached puberty”. Asked whether it was morally wrong, it is claimed that he replied: “No. I mean, it depends on the country.'

    He never denies saying this, not does he ever sue against it.

    Despite having the interview on tape and facing no legal action whatsoever the Sunday Mirror retracts the story.

    No other news media challenges the reasons behind this retraction.

    And for the person who was amazed at the sugestion that the Tabloids might cover up a paedophilia scandal, when was the last time you ever read about an upper-class paedo in a tabloid, why are they only ever from housing estates and the suburbs?
  51. avatar RockShandy
    Because the upper class people can afford to have them killed?

    Is that the punchline?
  52. avatar trepanner
    a. the upper classes are all paedos, purely because of their jealousy of the working classes? (which if you use it can tie in neatly to your last great piece of investigative journalism)

    b. lizards?

    c. the planes were actually holograms?
  53. avatar KingNeon
    [quote:d0047ca3df="George W Best"]When was the last time you ever read about an upper-class paedo in a tabloid, why are they only ever from housing estates and the suburbs?[/quote:d0047ca3df]

    Chris Langham, though that was only photos
  54. avatar George W Best
    It was the cops that got Langham not the press.
  55. avatar die the flu
    George old boy, the main thing you are missing here is what's generally referred to as evidence.

    I believe you know it as "proof".

    You have as much proof that there was a cover up of some kind as I do that you are in fact a paedophile.

    Let's look at the facts:

    You haven't expressley denied you're a paedophile.

    You may not be married.

    You have an unhealthy interest in paedophiles, and seem to know a lot about them.

    You live in a country which doesn't execute paedophiles.

    Suspiciously, there have been no tabloid articles printed syaing you are a paedophile (which speaks for itself!).

    Need I go on!?! I mean, what do you want? Actual "proof"?!
  56. avatar Portadown News Editor
    [quote:2478b5107b][i:2478b5107b]George Best Wrote:[/i:2478b5107b]
    What are the chances of a major newspaper printing serious allegations like that and claim to have it all on tape for it all to be false? [/quote:2478b5107b]

    I don't know what to say about that, but it was still worth quoting.
  57. avatar artofdarkness
    If 'proof' means a police investigation resulting in evidence that a law was broken, then there may never be proof of what's being claimed.

    If Sri Lanka's laws about sexual conduct with children used to state an age of 12, then any person, during those years that law applied, could quite easily have sex with any minor above that age, and stay well within the law.

    Even the Sri Lankan police might have problems applying any updated law retrospectively to a person's past activities in the country, never mind us, looking on from the other side of the world, applying our laws.

    So all we can apply is our own opinion, for what it's worth.
  58. avatar George W Best
    [quote:2ed9ffe537="die the flu"]George old boy, the main thing you are missing here is what's generally referred to as evidence.

    I believe you know it as "proof".

    [/quote:2ed9ffe537]

    The evidence dear old boy would be a taped conversation with Arthur C Clarke where he stated that he had in the past had sex with boys who were not yet passed puberty.

    You see the point I have been trying to make from the very start on this is:
    It was once reported that Arthur C Clarke said in a taped conversation that he had in the past had sex with boys who had not had yet reached puberty.

    Would a taped conversation with Arthur C Clarke where he say he has in the past had sex with boys who have not yet reached puberty count as proof? If so the validation of that tape ever existing would be the proof I would put forward as proof.

    Further more why I think the conversation did in fact happen is that I can not find anywhere where he denied saying this or that anyone else has ever denied that he said this.

    How can I make this any clearer? He once allegedly said he had sex with boys. He said it, Arthur C Clarke, to a reporter who taped the conversation. He never denied that he had said it, nor did he sue the people that said he had said it. Does that count as proof? Does a man saying he had sex with boys who have not yet reached puberty count as proof that he likes the idea of having sex with boys?
  59. avatar The Grace Jones
    My admittedly limited legal knowledge suggests that one of the requirements for evidence is that it actually exists. A suggestion that there is circumstantial evidence that the evidence may exist is probably, hopefully, throwing the whole thing firmly over that "reasonable doubt" line.

    If you can obtain the tapes, perhaps we can do business.
  60. avatar George W Best
    I would counter and say the fact that Mr Clarke did not sue is admission that the tapes exist. That and the fact that I have yet to see anyone from any side say that he did not make those comments.
    As no one, including him, have denied that he said those things, does that not mean that he did in fact say those things?
  61. avatar The Grace Jones
    You are a paedo.



    Sue me.
  62. avatar The Grace Jones
    [url=http://rapidshare.com/files/101093857/gwb.mp3.html]Furthermore I have a taped confession of this from you available as a small mp3 download, free, no registration required.
    [/url]
  63. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    Ach sure, who amongst us [i:8f31826d26]hasn't[/i:8f31826d26] been taped saying they have sex with young boys?
  64. avatar George W Best
    [quote:b07ee032cc="The Grace Jones"]You are a paedo.



    Sue me.[/quote:b07ee032cc]

    Sue you for what? From what I can tell all you seem to have is an inferiority complex.
  65. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:626f2d20b2="George W Best"]the fact that Mr Clarke did not sue is admission that the tapes exist.[/quote:626f2d20b2]

    Don't be f[b:626f2d20b2][/b:626f2d20b2]ucking ridiculous



    [quote:626f2d20b2="George W Best"]no one, including him, have denied that he said those things, does that not mean that he did in fact say those things?[/quote:626f2d20b2]

    Don't be f[b:626f2d20b2][/b:626f2d20b2]ucking ridiculous
  66. avatar George W Best
    Ridiculous?
    Show me where anyone has said he did not say those quotes?
    He never denied saying those quotes.
    Never.
    In all his life.
    Did he deny saying that he had sex with young boys.
    He said he had sex with young boys and never retracted it.

    Why do so many of you refuse to accept this when it is pretty clear that it did happen?

    The man admitted to having sex with young boys. Pre-pubescent boys.
  67. avatar Chi-Lite
    So you say.

    Unfortunately, I believe that you're full of s[b:86e3ba6f32][/b:86e3ba6f32]hit.

    And I have "proof".

    You've never denied it, for example.
  68. avatar kingmob
    [size=24:e6bfaf11f1]CAN THIS PLEASE STOP YOU TEDIOUS BáSTARDS????[/size:e6bfaf11f1]

    Please?
  69. avatar Zwaddap_deep_doo
    Please think of the mans legions of prepubescent lovers still in mourning who may stumble upon this filth. For shame.
  70. avatar fastfude
    [quote:a8824a9bee="The Grace Jones"][url=http://rapidshare.com/files/101093857/gwb.mp3.html]Furthermore I have a taped confession of this from you available as a small mp3 download, free, no registration required.
    [/url][/quote:a8824a9bee]It's 2008's dancefloor smash.
  71. avatar Truth-o-matic
    My first post!
    [quote:9936774213="artofdarkness"]

    Never mind claims that Arthur C Clarke was helping to project Sri Lanka "as a paradise for paedophiles" - the country's legislation has been acting as a good enough travel brochure all on its own.

    I'm far more disgusted with a country that's seen fit to have had laws like the above in its recent past, than the supposed and unconfirmed actions of one individual.[/quote:9936774213]

    True that not much had been done to curtail lewd practices with Sri Lankan children....or their women, for that matter. But then, how else would a third-world hellhole draw wealthy tourists?
    At least, I'm afraid that's how the country's leadership saw it.
    8 Nov, 1997 -- the BBC reported on child prostitution, being promoted on the internet.
    A quote from that report:
    "Local middlemen, mostly from Europe are used to find children of the required age for paedophiles, who then travel to Sri Lanka."

    So, sure -- the Sri Lankan government is, in part, responsible for these abominations!

    However, aside from your use of "supposed," and "unconfirmed" -- I got the impression that you'd be inclined to hold the individual less culpable, were the accusations to be proven.

    Perhaps, that's an error in my understanding of your statement.
    At any rate....I do hope that's the case. :?
  72. avatar unplugged
    this reminds me a bit of when Pete Townsend was "doing research" on the internet
  73. avatar The Grace Jones
    [quote:1b36a70075="Truth-o-matic"]
    But then, how else would a third-world hellhole draw wealthy tourists?[/quote:1b36a70075]

    Um, you are talking about the same Sri Lanka as the, er, real one, yeah? The, ah, the same "Pearl of the Indian Ocean", yeah?
  74. avatar T Entertainment
    Haven't we resolved this yet?!
    For God's sake, I want to see results! RESULTS!
  75. avatar The Grace Jones
    [img:9149135e32]http://jaguar.it.miami.edu/~chris/formal_methods_in_the_movies/AFewGoodMen.jpg[/img:9149135e32]

    [b:9149135e32]YOU CAN'T HANDLE RESULTS![/b:9149135e32]
  76. avatar T Entertainment
    You can't handle wearing clothes while never actually listening to music!
  77. avatar artofdarkness
    [quote:c4a5121e6c="Truth-o-matic"] However, aside from your use of "supposed," and "unconfirmed" -- I got the impression that you'd be inclined to hold the individual less culpable, were the accusations to be proven.[/quote:c4a5121e6c]
    I use words like 'supposed' as I am talking in public about an allegation that has not been proven by law, so my unfiltered personal opinion comes second.

    If Arthur C Clarke did indulge himself in Sri Lanka, then thanks to the country's attitudes, he'll not have been the only one. So more would be achieved to prevent paedophilia if overall outrage focused on making the laws more stringent and the country more accountable, rather than focusing on the personal life of one individual. That is, if results are what matters.