1. avatar esotericeric93
    This is a concept for an improv band I'm brainstorming but, I want to know whether or not it will work before I risk another pointless effort of advertising it and buying a second kit.

    The plan is for me (a drummer/percussionist) to jam/record/perform with a dj/sampler & a mime artist with a flair of prose and tounge twisters, (or maybe 1 of each).

    My aim is to find a venue where that kind of music would be appreciated by its' regulars- somewhere with a stage where I could buy a kit to leave there & we could rehearse and have a weekly residency, or maybe host an open jam.

    If this is feesable, I'll buy a second kit, providing there are musicians willing to commit.

    The other plan, is that,including me, there is 3 fulltime members and we invite other musician on the scene to jam/perform/record with us. Also to have a venue/pub that could be our homestead and, as the bands career progresses, employ staff like a manager and roadie.

    Once again I ask would this work? If so, any contacts would be appreciated
  2. avatar racecarisracecarbackwards
    "[b:3d3753b3bb]a mime artist with a flair of prose and tounge twisters[/b:3d3753b3bb]"

    Is it just me or..........
  3. avatar Cugel
    [quote:aecbd67851="esotericeric93"]a mime artist with a flair of prose and tounge twisters[/quote:aecbd67851]

    Now this I would pay to see ...
  4. avatar unplugged
    :lol: acid has alot to answer for
  5. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:eaca93fc2d="esotericeric93"]somewhere with a stage where I could buy a kit to leave there & we could rehearse and have a weekly residency[/quote:eaca93fc2d]

    I think there's a garage in Castlewellan you could probably rent out
  6. avatar Danny McCormack
    Surely the lack of speech is one of the defining characteristics of a mime artist?
  7. avatar trepanner
    Pah, they laughed at Icarus, they laughed at the Sinclair C5, and now they laugh at Spoken Mime. Fine, you'll all be left behind. This is the Revolution.
  8. avatar esotericeric93
    Can we all be serious for 1 moment please and,pretend Castlewellan and garages are non-existant. Danny Mc.Cormac, I can see where you are coming from, I'm just kind of not trying to rule anything out in order to make it happen, hence I'm asking for someone who can do both, depending on the songs or, one of each because,anytime in the past that I've advertised for an instrumental band someone has either said "I've got a mate who can sing" or, "why does it have to be instrumental?". I'm serious about this and I want it to work, therefore, I believe that I have to be less specific in my advertising campaign and, not make it sound like a tacky ad in the lonely farts
  9. avatar thesacredhearts
    Mate seriously, do you think that there are venues that will let an improv instrumental and mime act have a residency where paying customers come to see it every week? Honestly?

    As a piece of modern art, there might be promoters that would like to put you on, but as a commercially viable resident band?

    Be realistic for a bit.
  10. avatar rentaghost
    yesbut what is the point of a spoken mime?
  11. avatar thesacredhearts
    Whats not the point of a spoken mime? Eh?
  12. avatar esotericeric93
    [quote:2096247f88="rentaghost"]yes but what is the point of a spoken mime?[/quote:2096247f88]

    Consider, a trial in common grounds and find out for yourself, you'll regret it otherwise :smt060
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  13. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:c2e83fd209]Consider, a trail in common grounds and find out for yourself, you'll regret it otherwise [/quote:c2e83fd209]

    A trail of breadcrumbs, out of Common Grounds and into the woods, more like
  14. avatar Chi-Lite
    I mean lad, I think you're an affable, harmless and no doubt [i:98317cb238]lovely[/i:98317cb238] fella, but you're really not living in the real world.

    If you're lucky, you might possibly find some loons willing to join an instrumental improv space band, with added fecking Peter Gabriel, but getting some kind of residency in a bar, or any other venue, ain't happening, me oul china. You'll be lucky to get the odd gig here and there at some of our more "arty" events, and then only if you have absolutely top class musicians, and with some kind of well seasoned improvisational framework for you all to play about with.

    And you'll still probably never get a gig anyway.

    A residency! Keep the lid on it there,would ye.
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  15. avatar esotericeric93
    [quote:29ac56e3c2="thesacredhearts"]Mate seriously, do you think that there are venues that will let an improv instrumental and mime act have a residency where paying customers come to see it every week? Honestly?

    As a piece of modern art, there might be promoters that would like to put you on, but as a commercially viable resident band?

    Be realistic for a bit.[/quote:29ac56e3c2]

    I can see your point, and the short answer is that, it depends where the venue is. It wouldn't work in a british legion or a church hall but I'm hoping it will work in: the opera house/common grounds/the lyric/the whitla/. It will definatly work in Vaudeville communities- ie: eastern europe
  16. avatar Chi-Lite
    Jesus Mary and Joseph.

    See if you think a space jazz improvisational spoken mime band are gonna get a residency in the opera house/common grounds/the lyric/the whitla......

    Take a step back and listen to yourself fella, will ya.
  17. avatar esotericeric93
    Okay, maybe not a residency, but, I recon it would draw an appreciative crowd, they're the types I recon would be worth the approach, where's rentaghost? after-all, don't common grounds operate on a charity status? ie: help others to help themselves? You can't fault me for wanting to raise a few bob for those less fortunate
  18. avatar che_mcclean
    Great work. You continue to surpass yourself, prog. A residency at the Opera House, then a tour of Eastern Europe...class.
  19. avatar Chi-Lite
    no
  20. avatar esotericeric93
    No to what?
  21. avatar fastfude
    just... no.
  22. avatar poppy
    [quote:b5a84c0bc1="esotericeric93"]This is a concept for an improv band I'm brainstorming but, I want to know whether or not it will work before I risk another pointless effort of advertising it and buying a second kit.

    The plan is for me (a drummer/percussionist) to jam/record/perform with a dj/sampler & a mime artist with a flair of prose and tounge twisters, (or maybe 1 of each).

    My aim is to find a venue where that kind of music would be appreciated by its' regulars- somewhere with a stage where I could buy a kit to leave there & we could rehearse and have a weekly residency, or maybe host an open jam.

    If this is feesable, I'll buy a second kit, providing there are musicians willing to commit.

    The other plan, is that,including me, there is 3 fulltime members and we invite other musician on the scene to jam/perform/record with us. Also to have a venue/pub that could be our homestead and, as the bands career progresses, employ staff like a manager and roadie.

    Once again I ask would this work? If so, any contacts would be appreciated[/quote:b5a84c0bc1]

    I'm not 100% sure what this would actually be like in reality, but I must say I admire your bravery. At least you're being creative and doing something thats actually new, even if this project doesn't work I think that being that open to breaking the mould is a good thing and will pay off for you eventually. I would go to see this, at least he's not starting up another identikit band.
  23. avatar thesacredhearts
    Its indeed admirable that you're trying something (particularly) different. The list of venues you are thinking off with the exception of maybe common grounds (although i'd say thats very unlikely too) is wholly unrealistic.

    Again i'd say that as one off gigs it might draw a crowd at the right kind of night, something run at the black box maybe. But promoters and venues will be afraid of something that as improv is unreliable in terms of output.

    I'd go out of curiosity, but i can't guarantee i wouldn't be pissing myself with laughter.
  24. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    Mime on any level is morally wrong
  25. avatar dodgi stereo
    I've had bottles thrown at me for playing with less 'out-there' ideas, so i understand why so many people are critical (besides this place being dominated by people who play/listen to; rock, pop, indie, singer songwriter material).

    I also think that there aren't enough people interested in such adventurous projects to make such a project viable for residencies.

    There are (were?) plenty of people interested in experimental, improvised music. I have met, talked and played with a few.

    They don't use fastfude for some reason.


    For example:
    http://www.mutantsounds.com/links/ma_ire.php
  26. avatar esotericeric93
    Cheers Dodgi stereo, that's a good site
  27. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    but seriously, spoken mime? Can we return to this?
  28. avatar The enfant terrible
    I used to do mime at uni and I've got the tee-shirt for it. I'd be up for this.
  29. avatar That Man Fanjo
    It's a great idea and will DEFINITELY work.


    Maybe the addition of some black-faced minstrels will broaden the appeal... you don't want to pander exclusively to the Eastern Europeans.
  30. avatar rentaghost
    Big lad, if you want to buy Common Grounds a drum kit, far be it from me to stop you. Those boys in Tree have a lovely electronic one that would be just the business.

    But you still aren't getting a residency.

    [i:83f5107eb6]If[/i:83f5107eb6] you got this thing together and [i:83f5107eb6]if [/i:83f5107eb6]you got a cd or mp3 recorded and I liked it, I might let you experiment one week.

    We have different acts every week and that's the way it is. Means everyone gets a turn to do their bit for charity.
    Non-negotiable.

    ALSO

    [quote:83f5107eb6]the opera house/common grounds/the lyric/the whitla/[/quote:83f5107eb6]
    have you [i:83f5107eb6]been[/i:83f5107eb6] to CG?
    You [i:83f5107eb6]are[/i:83f5107eb6] aware I take it that there is somewhat of a size difference compared to these other venues?
  31. avatar rentaghost
    [quote:c974425e64="Chi-Lite"][quote:c974425e64]Consider, a trail in common grounds and find out for yourself, you'll regret it otherwise [/quote:c974425e64]

    A trail of breadcrumbs, out of Common Grounds and into the woods, more like[/quote:c974425e64]

    Just what are you implying we do with our less popular acts, Malone?
  32. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:5545067990]Just what are you implying we do with our less popular acts, Malone?[/quote:5545067990]

    Start a soul band?

    I'll get me coat...
  33. avatar Flatyre
    dude,

    just concentrate on starting a band, and worry about your residency after you have a band. Do you reckon the beatles said to themselves, "Lets buy a couple of guitars and go and play Shea Stadium"?

    Of course they didn't.

    If you spent more time making sensible suggestions rather than typing a daydream straight into this here wee box, you might have a band, and who knows, a regular gig at some hole in the hedge too.

    That said, keep up the comedy too - its all I have to read until the indie disco thread comes back to life. What about scenes from a prog residency??
  34. avatar thesacredhearts
    Scenes from a prog improv residency 1

    Prog boy: This is somewhat like king crimson in the court of the king crimson, only with a dj

    Mime:

    Prog boy: Quite!
  35. avatar esotericeric93
    [quote:a739ebe091="Flatyre"]dude,

    just concentrate on starting a band, and worry about your residency after you have a band. Do you reckon the beatles said to themselves, "Lets buy a couple of guitars and go and play Shea Stadium"?

    Of course they didn't.

    If you spent more time making sensible suggestions rather than typing a daydream straight into this here wee box, you might have a band, and who knows, a regular gig at some hole in the hedge too.

    That said, keep up the comedy too - its all I have to read until the indie disco thread comes back to life. What about scenes from a prog residency??[/quote:a739ebe091]

    I see your point, but you gotta set yourself goals. My goal is to to put together said band and aim to have regular slots in suitable venues. The other motive behind this is, to gain get heard and beef up my CV with giging experience. If I bought a kit to put somewhere, that could be the bands practice spot, and there's something to offer the pub or whereever if they do an open jam , or want to. There are bands, that rehearse prior to the gig, in the venue, like cover bands. Also, to avoid tedium, record a live improv, some stuff sounds better live.
  36. avatar Chi-Lite
    As the man says, seriously just keep trying to get yourself a band, then worry about all that other stuff.

    I'm not being funny, but considering how difficult you've been finding it [i:3331e56203]just to get a band to play with[/i:3331e56203], there's something of the oul insanity in this.

    Some bands, mostly cover bands, would have a practice upstairs in a bar or wherever, but the chances of a bar allowing you to come off the street, with your imaginary mime artist whom you will never find, and play improvised prog-core, is absolutely nil.

    Seriously like, just join a wee band, then you can try and mould it to your liking, then you can do a few gigs, and then, just possibly, some mad head bar might allow you to come in the odd time for an improv set; on a quiet night, if it is a really left-field venue.

    But just join a wee band......you couldn't be [i:3331e56203]that bad[/i:3331e56203].
    :D

    I think, to be honest with ye, posting all these, as was rightly said, daydreams, on this site does you no favours at all.

    hope I'm being constructive.
  37. avatar esotericeric93
    I made ads on the weekend to put up in shops,the look very unique. I put 3 on the notice board in matchetts, in desperation and one in the fitting room of rusty zip. I hope I don't sound like I'm giving the game away (if there is a game, that is) but, I give myself an alias and an email of that name, I have plans to use that as a stage name and if it gets up and running, I plan to legally change my name. See if you can spot the posters. The evil photocopier cut of some of the detail, making mime artist ME artist. :x I also had the idea of putting them inside books, I had the decency to ask tho, but they were having none of it. They weren't obnoxious about it and, they said they'd like to see it take of. I wish I had of adverised it in the sonic DJ academy because, they have practice rooms for DJ's but, there's a possibility they could aqauaint me with a DJ and I could buy a kit to keep there.
  38. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote:5ec3fb3c69="Chi-Lite"]As the man says, seriously just keep trying to get yourself a band, then worry about all that other stuff.[/quote:5ec3fb3c69]

    Okay, so you've got your band, and you're, sorry they're, ready to rrrock. So you whip out the stripey t-shirt, the gloves and the face paints.

    "alright lads, who wants to do a bit of mime to this song".

    What happens next?Hmmm
  39. avatar Chi-Lite
    Peter Gabriel unceremoniously quits the band, to be replaced on vocals by Phil Collins, resulting in a more mainstream, commercially viable, if somewhat bland, sound.

    But yet they still go on to continuing worldwide success with such hits as "Su-Su Suteo", and "I Can't Dance", while Peter gives it Solsbury Hill and a legendary duet with Kate Bush.

    so everyone's a winner baby, that's no lie.
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  40. avatar trepanner
    It's almost perfect, but I think what you really need to cap it all off is to somehow incorporate miniature golf.
  41. avatar Gripper Magee
    I agree with Fanjo.

    In fact, get a [i:ddb000b59f]group[/i:ddb000b59f] and you can [i:ddb000b59f]maybe[/i:ddb000b59f] come and play in the foyer at IAC when we've something [i:ddb000b59f]suitable[/i:ddb000b59f] on.
  42. avatar The Donk
    Crazy. Like, scary crazy
  43. avatar RockShandy
    I know just the man to come in and play some funky bass for your project.

    He goes by the name McCourt...
  44. avatar Daithi jasper
    Who is this McCourt I hear about on here all the time?
  45. avatar RockShandy
    [quote:42f063351d="Daithi jasper"]Who is this McCourt I hear about on here all the time?[/quote:42f063351d]

    http://fastfude.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23950

    You can read all about him and his group there.
  46. avatar T Entertainment
    Have you considered recruiting these fish?

    [img:68de4a842d]http://teacherweb.com/LA/JHMS/JBUSH/TalesTopoOceans1280x1024.jpg[/img:68de4a842d]


    In Prog, did you produce this by any chance?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZZ1SAu40G4
  47. avatar my-angel-rocks
    Prog: Its not a wild idea really, in fact its quite close to the standard for a rap/hiphop act: someone who drums, a dj and someone who can dance funny and read poetry quickly...the problem is defintely with the idea of looking for a residency before you have any material.

    Another question: Was Bez just an indie mime-artist?
  48. avatar esotericeric93
    [quote:858f0c4078="my-angel-rocks"]Prog: Its not a wild idea really, in fact its quite close to the standard for a rap/hiphop act: someone who drums, a dj and someone who can dance funny and read poetry quickly...the problem is defintely with the idea of looking for a residency before you have any material.

    Another question: Was Bez just an indie mime-artist?[/quote:858f0c4078]

    Having a DJ and a mimer/poet doesn't necessarily make a band hip-hop, just like not every trio is a [b:858f0c4078]POWER[/b:858f0c4078] trio. You're also wrong to assume I don't have any material, because I've been devising pieces,some of the finest bands have one key writter
  49. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:fd55ac9709="esotericeric93"]Having a DJ and a mimer/poet doesn't necessarily make a band hip-hop, just like not every trio is a [b:fd55ac9709]POWER[/b:fd55ac9709] trio. You're also wrong to assume I don't have any material, because I've been devising pieces,some of the finest bands have one key writter[/quote:fd55ac9709]

    None of which I said...
    I was saying that the line up is similar to a hiphop line up, so wasn't that strange an idea. Obviously you could be a different style.

    I also didn't mean that you couldn't have been writing material, but as a band you don't have any, which is what people would need to hear before contemplating even giving you a gig.

    Don't be so defensive, just concentrate on getting the band together
  50. avatar thefatson
    You's are all so mean spirited I think you're just raging you didn't think of this first.

    I would come and see this.

    The residency thing is the only silly bit, yeah we'd all love one but until we all open our own venues or star in a montage it's never going to happen.

    All this slegging of the spoken mime reminds me of when a spide or ignoramus will pick up on one silly thing you say and repeat it forever laughing like an idiot.

    I assumed that by spoken mime you wanted someone to carry on like a young Jello Biafra with green gloves.

    Good luck anyway, this will either be really good or really bad but either way much better than a lot of the boring stuff around.
  51. avatar nonlogic liam
    If this ill advised consortium works, it will be a good day for performing arts in Northern Ireland.
  52. avatar esotericeric93
    [quote:7ae1d4a46f="thefatson"]You's are all so mean spirited I think you're just raging you didn't think of this first.

    I would come and see this.

    The residency thing is the only silly bit, yeah we'd all love one but until we all open our own venues or star in a montage it's never going to happen.

    All this slegging of the spoken mime reminds me of when a spide or ignoramus will pick up on one silly thing you say and repeat it forever laughing like an idiot.

    I assumed that by spoken mime you wanted someone to carry on like a young Jello Biafra with green gloves.

    Good luck anyway, this will either be really good or really bad but either way much better than a lot of the boring stuff around.[/quote:7ae1d4a46f]

    Cheers that's more like it!
  53. avatar esotericeric93
    [quote:26a52c50dd="my-angel-rocks"][quote:26a52c50dd="esotericeric93"]Having a DJ and a mimer/poet doesn't necessarily make a band hip-hop, just like not every trio is a [b:26a52c50dd]POWER[/b:26a52c50dd] trio. You're also wrong to assume I don't have any material, because I've been devising pieces,some of the finest bands have one key writter[/quote:26a52c50dd]

    None of which I said...
    I was saying that the line up is similar to a hiphop line up, so wasn't that strange an idea. Obviously you could be a different style.

    I also didn't mean that you couldn't have been writing material, but as a band you don't have any, which is what people would need to hear before contemplating even giving you a gig.

    Don't be so defensive, just concentrate on getting the band together[/quote:26a52c50dd]

    Apologies, I see your point, I just hope it materialises
  54. avatar ryanego
    [quote:38de3b29db]If this ill advised consortium works, it will be a good day for performing arts in Northern Ireland. [/quote:38de3b29db]

    I'll go see it if you call it "The Ill Advised Consortium"
  55. avatar esotericeric93
    Ill advised consortium isn't very complimentry. I'd prefare to call it "Robots shredding limbs", "the 4rth wall" "caution to the wind" or basically anything except ill advised consortium
  56. avatar trepanner
    [i:bf0c89b593]"Caution to the wind"[/i:bf0c89b593] and [i:bf0c89b593]"The 4th wall"[/i:bf0c89b593] are extant UK bands. And [i:bf0c89b593]"Robots Shredding Limbs"[/i:bf0c89b593] is keek.

    I too will go and see you and will bring 100 close friends if and only if you call yourselves [i:bf0c89b593]The Ill-Advised Consortium.[/i:bf0c89b593]

    Furthermore I will lobby the general public to such a degree that no-one within 2500 miles of Belfast will go to see your band unless you call yourselves [i:bf0c89b593]The Ill-Advised Consortium[/i:bf0c89b593].
  57. avatar esotericeric93
    How is robot shredding limbs keek?
  58. avatar trepanner
    Stop whining and do your duty.

    You [b:9ada0a5116]will[/b:9ada0a5116] be [i:9ada0a5116]The Ill Advised Consortium[/i:9ada0a5116], or you will be blacklisted at every practice room/studio/venue/coffee shop/public toilet throughout this continent.

    I have friends in both The United Religious, Military and Masonic Orders of the Temple and of St John of Jerusalem, Palestine, Rhodes and Malta, and also in the Northern Ireland Water Service - ergo I can make life very... [i:9ada0a5116]difficult[/i:9ada0a5116]... for you Mr. Prog, if you do not comply with these instructions...
  59. avatar Kingnez
    [quote:a833fbe390="trepanner"]You [b:a833fbe390]will[/b:a833fbe390] be [i:a833fbe390]The Ill Advised Consortium[/i:a833fbe390], or you will be blacklisted at every practice room throughout this continent....[/quote:a833fbe390]

    IF THE MIME HAS HIS THIRTY POUNDS ENTER THE PENTHOUSE HE WILL

    [quote:a833fbe390="trepanner"]
    I have friends in both The United Religious, Military and Masonic Orders of the Temple and of St John of Jerusalem, Palestine, Rhodes and Malta, and also in the Northern Ireland Water Service - ergo I can make life very...[/quote:a833fbe390]
    Number 6 your loose tongue will be the end of you