1. avatar Mowgli
    OK, am just bein nosy here but who do the rest of you guys really rate as the most amazing guitarists, those that have really inspired you?
  2. avatar johnnychivers
    depends on musical taste.

    but mines is jonny greenwood. that boy is a legend. going to see him in dublin.
  3. avatar kinta1
    vai
    peppino dagostino
    evh
    kelly joe phelps

    hey mowgli are the jbls still avail? can ya send me some info on them plz
    cheers
  4. avatar Mowgli
    Cool,

    Only recognise 2 out of 4 so shall have to keep an eye out for the others, maybe I am limited in my knowledge of inspirational guitarists to 3 letters per name :lol:

    The JBL's are still about yeah, sent u a mail with info before did I not? :?

    They are Powered, 15" JBL Eons, handle anything you throw at it and pump it out at around 300W a piece I think (saw them online listed as 400W each but think thats peak...will have to check). Have XLR inputs and link output, Mic/Line Selection, volume control, power in is standard 3 pin kettle lead but a nice feature of these is that they have a link out for power so both can be powered off the one socket if you have a long link cable...which I happen to be including. Am also throwing in a good set of speaker stands, air sprung so even if the steel locking pin fails they still wont collapse under the weight of the speakers.
  5. avatar lateralus
    Mine was always Vai until a year or so ago. Couldn't give a best one, but my favourite few are:

    Don Ross
    Tommy Emmanuel, seen him live twice - completely changed my outlook on music.
    Jeff Beck
    Eric Johnson
    John Butler
    Mattias Eklundh
    Ed Wynne (Ozric Tentacles)
  6. avatar boourns
    Yes but aren't Vai, Satriani and all that just soul-less technique and no soul? It's like those demo tracks you get on keyboards, just because you can do it doesn't mean it sounds good. Boo-urns!
  7. avatar ginpromo
    Hendrix
    Page
    Clapton
    Arty McGlynn
    Tommy Emmanuel
    Edge
    Eddie Van Halen
    Prince
    Johmmy Marr
    John Squire
    Peter Green

    My immediate thoughts but there would be more
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  8. avatar exitonline
    My favourite guitarists/influences would be....

    Brian May
    Jeff Beck
    Eric Johnson
    Mark Knopfler
    Eric Clapton
    Lindsey Buckingham
    Rory Gallagher
    David Gilmore
    Chet Atkins
    John Williams
    Jimi Hendrix
  9. avatar Jim Cava
    [u:bbdb40a251]Acoustic[/u:bbdb40a251]-
    Django
    Ill second Kelly Joe Phelps(esp. on lap slide),Arty McGlynn and Tommy Emmanuel
    David Grier
    Tony Rice
    Jerry Douglas (Dobro)
    Tony McManus
    Soig Siberil
    Pierre Bensusan
    Richard Thompson
    John Doyle.

    [u:bbdb40a251]Electric[/u:bbdb40a251]-
    Jimi
    Stevie Ray Vaughn
  10. avatar thepalemonarch
    Yngwie Malmsteen
    Paul Gilbert
    Jason Becker
    Jani Limatainen
    Timo Tolkki

    Most guitarists who wore spandex

    Bach (he had a secret Ibanez)
  11. avatar BOOZEHOUND
    Brian Setzer
    P.Paul Fenech
    Mark Harmon
    'Reverend' Jim Heath
    Neil Cunningham
  12. avatar The Fires of Hell
    Your man outside Cornmarket that busks like he wants to kill himself.
  13. avatar tinpot anto
    Jimi
    Peter Green
    Rory Gallagher
    Declan Sinnot
    Davy Graham
  14. avatar Ratoot
    Jonny Greenwood
    Brendan Kelly
    Anthony O'Kane
    Rodrigo
    Gabriela

    But having said that, I'm not that taken with guitar players.
    They're a dime a dozen really.
  15. avatar Niall Harden
    nick drake, thurston moore, the guy from green day
  16. avatar tinpot anto
    Aww, I love you too Raymie :-)
  17. avatar The Fires of Hell
    Rod & Gab are overrated. Saw them live and they bored the sack off me, like.
  18. avatar Ratoot
    I notice I wasn't on your list C*NT!

    What happened to my weekly confidence boost?

    :cry:

    I'm in a huff now.
  19. avatar drakeguild
    Nick Drake, Bert Jansch, Michael Hedges, Rory Gallagher.
  20. avatar tinpot anto
    You'll always be top of my list of ginger people I'm in a band with :)
  21. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    Paul "Bonehead" Arthurs
  22. avatar Pete
    The guy had his off days, but Hendrix really does shade everyone else into submission for me. Little Wing is top of my list of guitar parts I really wish I could play properly.

    Second would probably be SRV who's the only person I've ever heard cover Little Wing and do it any kind of justice.

    Recently, whilst listening to old Manics albums, I've developed a lot of respect for James Dean Bradfield. He's playing some pretty nice stuff whilst also being able to sing at the same time.
  23. avatar Ben Bulbous
    Lou Barlow (sometimes less is more)
    Young
    Cobain
    McCready
    Morello
    Steve Cooney
    Arty McGlynn
    Paul Brady
    Clapton
    Cooder
    Drake

    As for Vai & Satriani's playing, there's more soul in a Volkswagon fanbelt
  24. avatar cruz
    Kevin Shiels
    J Mascis
    Hornby (We Are Knives)
    Brian Gibson (Lightning Bolt)
    Rory Friers/Tony Wright (ASIWYFA)
    Dave Navarro
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  25. avatar Strong Reaction
    Nick Drake
    Robert Johnson
    The guy from Ween
    J Mascis
    Eddie Van Halen
    Django Reinhardt
  26. avatar thebatgranny
    Pete Townsend
    Jimi
    Link Wray
    Billy Corgan
  27. avatar TalkShowMan
    Robbie Robertson
    Nick Drake
    Jimmy Page
    Robbie Krieger
    George Harrison
    Scotty Moore
    Chuck Berry

    Hmmm, I don't seem to like new guitarists. Just can't think of anyone recent other than the usual offenders like Johnny Greenwood...
  28. avatar the_vanishin
    stevie ray vaughan. as far as blues goes anyway, hes the dog vitals.
  29. avatar T Entertainment
    Steve Rothery, Dave Navarro, Pete Townsend.
  30. avatar TheJebs
    Steve Cropper
    John Fogerty
    Muddy Waters
    Peter Green
    John Mayall
    Walter Trout
    Kerry King
    PJ Harvey
    SeaSick Steve

    So many more to be bothered mentioning but u get the idea
  31. avatar Ratoot
    Actually just thinking, Nipsy Russle from The Fools would be on my list as well. His solo on "Little Town" from the Little Kicks era is astounding.

    And also so whoever played the solo on Bob Marley's "Stir It Up".
  32. avatar Chi-Lite
    Peter Green
    Peter Townshend
    Lou Reed
    Robert Johnson
    Wilko Johnson
    Steve Cropper
    Leo Moran
    Syd Barrett
    Bruce Gilbert
    Rory Gallagher

    Good to see our Greeny getting a fair share of the votes......think I'm the only one to mention Lou Reed yet.

    Even though the guitar solo on "I heard Her Call My Name" is the best ever..
  33. avatar tinpot anto
    I forgot about Neil Young too - class basterd that he is!

    And Curtis Mayfield :-)
  34. avatar Per
    [img:9f197a89d5]http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/m3/may2007/8/6/4CED2530-EC2D-456C-89A014D0A9BCF808.jpg[/img:9f197a89d5]

    no contest
  35. avatar boourns
    ballroot
  36. avatar Mowgli
    LMAO :lol: Cant wait to see the reactions to your posting Per. Not sure he gets too many votes as being inspirational with or without a guitar.

    P.S. Can you tell me how to post a photo? Have stuff for sale here and ppl always ask to put up a pic but I dont know how :(
  37. avatar Gripper Magee
    Certainly the most inspirational for me are-

    Paul Brady and Arty (of course!)[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJgMCyT4DXw[/url]

    Neil Young [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7M1Se-p7uk[/url]

    Elvis Costello best guitar solo ever 3mins33 although album version better [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiOmhOumh-w[/url]

    Dick Gaughan (cheesy video, sorry but listen) [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q38wBcVdJXM[/url]

    Mick Ronson [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGWYGR3xy2Y[/url]

    And of course Rory [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njAIBXsfhgQ[/url]
  38. avatar mcstick
    Ron Asheton. Unrivalled brutality!
  39. avatar Tele
    This thread is the absolute epitome of shite.
  40. avatar drakeguild
    [quote:0708992b84="Tele"]This thread is the absolute epitome of <img src='http://www.fastfude.org/forums/images/smiles/019.gif' />.[/quote:0708992b84]

    I know a girl, you would really like her....I'll arrange lunch.
  41. avatar anty
    yknow not to sound like a cunt but you all should be worshipping me and all those songs ive never wrote
  42. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    Richard Digance
  43. avatar ginpromo
    [quote="Gripper Magee"]Certainly the most inspirational for me are-


    Elvis Costello best guitar solo ever 3mins33 although album version better [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiOmhOumh-w[/url]

    It was cool kind of ripping off Edge in a Love is blindness way, but not best guitar solo ever, maybe Elvis personal best
  44. avatar Gripper Magee
    Yeah that was a bad example of that song, but I couldn't find the original one. On the original album version from Blood and Chocolate the solo consists of just two oscillating, almost out of tune, notes. Sublime really, in my opinion. So much to be said by so little. Like a good artist he knows how to paint a picture. That's why he's inspirational to me. Check it out.
  45. avatar Gripper Magee
    [quote:88acb3f531="Tele"]This thread is the absolute epitome of ....[/quote:88acb3f531]

    You just might learn something :roll:
  46. avatar DuncanDisorderly
    john fogerty
    johnny greenwood
    rivers cuomo
    matt bellamy
    jack white
  47. avatar stevieo
    Paco de Lucia
  48. avatar Russ
    chaz jankel,lou reed and jj cale.
  49. avatar infidelityJP
    joshua homme
    john mclaughlin
    johnny marr
  50. avatar Lap Dog Shuffle
    Even though I'm completley shit, I dream of being half as good as any of these guys:

    Gary Lucas
    Spencer Seim (Hella)
    Sam Zurick (Make Believe, Joan of Arc etc.)
    Victor Villareal (Ghosts and Vodka, Owls)
  51. avatar dynamo hum
    Geoff Tyson

    Jeff Beck

    Richie Kotzen

    :D
  52. avatar che_mcclean
    Floyd Mayweather
  53. avatar remedy malahide
    Richard Thompson
    Paul Simon
    Jendrix!!
  54. avatar Gripper Magee
    I nearly forgot the seminal genius of John Otway and Wils Willy Barret. What a performance -

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkYOZyNocrw[/url]
  55. avatar Tom McShane
    er, tom verlaine anyone? just a personal opinion ye understand, but i reckon he's one of the most expressive guitarists i've heard. otherworldly, you might say.
  56. avatar Crackity_jones
    Steve Albini
    Edge
    Andy Gill
    Adrian Belew (going on Remain In Light, I haven't heard King Crimson much/at all)
    Billy Corgan
    Johnny Marr

    locally -

    Jonny Black
    Hornby
    Rory & Tony from ASIWYFA
    Rocky
    yer man from The Hellfire Clb (sorry I don't know your name!)
  57. avatar danbmc
    Pat Metheny ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvaVQZP6A_M is a pretty cool acoustic medley - shame we dont get this stuff on our tv!)
    Derek Trucks
    John Scofield
    John mayer for his catchy grooves and feel
    Jeff Buckley is also great underneath that voice.
    probably lots more I cant think of, hmm.
  58. avatar Ben Bulbous
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JkHBC5lDs
    I used to play this tune by Knopfler constantly to try to study his nuances. The expression of the playing in Brothers In Arms sounds like nothing else I've heard. Just the right amount of soloing without w@nking all over the sentiments of the words.
  59. avatar Tele
    [quote:8375573977="Gripper Magee"][quote:8375573977="Tele"]This thread is the absolute epitome of ....[/quote:8375573977]

    You just might learn something :roll:[/quote:8375573977]

    Yes, there is much to be learnt from the same list repeated until the end of time.
  60. avatar tinpot anto
    Learn my wab.
  61. avatar Gripper Magee
    delete delete delete
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  62. avatar Chi-Lite
    Fair play til John Otway, who's fecking class.....but I think Wild Willy's guitar playing is a bit keck.

    Tom Verlaine....now that was a good call.
  63. avatar vacuumgarden
    Tommy Emmanuel is consistently astonishing. As for electric, I was watching a King Crimson DVD the other night and Robert Fripp completely blew my brains out with his crazy guitar work. :D
  64. avatar neverbefore
    The very fact he hasnt been mentioned goes to show that he is indeed the most underrated guitar player ever... Mr Ritchie Blackmore. Constantly reinvented himself, every time showing his vast technical ability and equally vast levels of taste.
  65. avatar markbass555
    Locally......Roy Fulton
  66. avatar esotericeric93
    Can't believe noone has mentioned Vernon Reid, or Alex Lifeson, or Steve Mc.Cann, or Nuno Bettencourt or Richie Kotzen, or Bucket Head or Sir Mildred Mulch or Devin Townsend or Simon Mc.Bride with the exceptions of me a whole 5 pages later, what the hell is wrong with everyone? :evil:
  67. avatar feline1
    I enjoy the tender fingerpickings of Nick Drake and indeed Paul Simon.

    Brian May's geetar sounds always had the most beautiful tone and his harmony orchestrations were a delight.

    Robert Fripp of course is always a goodun' for blistering nonconsensual mayhems.

    Rob-Dean-of-pop-group-Japan's contributions to the canon of svelte delicate E-bow work are often neglected, I feel.

    Bravo to Johnny Ramone for discovering the werld of bar-chord overdriven minimalism, and for dying of prostate cancer (which, I heard, he liked), and also to Steve Jones for multitracking it and adding phaser pedal.

    I must say I retain a fondness for the werld of angular skeleton reverberted post-punk geetar, due to the endeavours of such folk as Robin Simon (Ultravox, Magazine...) John McGeoogh (Magazine) John Levene (PiL) and maybe even Charlie Burchill of Simple MiNds (ahine though they became) and also such scraggly folk like in Sioxxie and the Bansheees and stuff.
  68. avatar mck_776
    Rory Gallagher...

    Or Tommy Emmanuel on acoustic...

    No one else even comes close, except maybe Andy Mckee on the auld acoustic...
  69. avatar Fernando
    Andy Summers is a fantastic guitar player and its between him, Mark Knopfler and John Frusciante as to who is my favourite electric guitarist. I also like Dave Gilmour, Brian May, Alex Lifeson and Steve Hackett as well as all the usual suspects; Hendrix etc.

    On Acoustic I like Colin Reid, Bert Jansch and a host of others. David McCann who played at Common Grounds recently is superb and a real inspiration. Does anybody know if he has any upcoming gigs?
  70. avatar my-angel-rocks
    me
  71. avatar Numbnut Sounds
    good god...only one mention so far

    the only guitarist you need is the Right Honourable Sir Angus of Young.....preferably with his brother at his side

    8)
  72. avatar esotericeric93
    [quote:9eee14337f="Fernando"]Andy Summers is a fantastic guitar player and its between him, Mark Knopfler and John Frusciante as to who is my favourite electric guitarist. I also like Dave Gilmour, Brian May, Alex Lifeson and Steve Hackett as well as all the usual suspects; Hendrix etc.

    On Acoustic I like Colin Reid, Bert Jansch and a host of others. David McCann who played at Common Grounds recently is superb and a real inspiration. Does anybody know if he has any upcoming gigs?[/quote:9eee14337f]

    Don't you mean Steve McCann?
  73. avatar drakeguild
    [quote:495d1c1621="my-angel-rocks"]me[/quote:495d1c1621]

    Damn yes, I forgot about you. Doh!


    :P
  74. avatar ebs93
    [quote:09460713dd="esotericeric93"][quote:09460713dd="Fernando"]Andy Summers is a fantastic guitar player and its between him, Mark Knopfler and John Frusciante as to who is my favourite electric guitarist. I also like Dave Gilmour, Brian May, Alex Lifeson and Steve Hackett as well as all the usual suspects; Hendrix etc.

    On Acoustic I like Colin Reid, Bert Jansch and a host of others. David McCann who played at Common Grounds recently is superb and a real inspiration. Does anybody know if he has any upcoming gigs?[/quote:09460713dd]

    Don't you mean Steve McCann?[/quote:09460713dd]

    David McCann is a GREAT songwriter and player:


    [url]http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=188894661[/url]
  75. avatar Ooopsapocalypse
    I've lurked here for too long.
  76. avatar Garzo
    Joey Santiago and Johnny Greenwood for getting interesting noises out of guitars and approaching the instrument in new ways. For acoustic I like Elliott Smith and Django Reinhardt. I also used to think Dave Murray was a god when I was about 16.
  77. avatar thecunnyfunt
    seamie o'dowd

    http://www.myspace.com/seamieodowd

    he's a wee bit good at the aul geetar
  78. avatar whipchorus
    yer ma
    my ma
    yer ma's guitar tutor
    my da
    Carlos Santana (post-'Supernatural')
  79. avatar splitscreen
    Best Guitarist?? - locally i think you'll find that would be [b:d5e2e698ea]Philip Gallen - Splitscreen[/b:d5e2e698ea]

    Majella :D
  80. avatar racecarisracecarbackwards
    Derek Trucks and Mike Keneally for soloing
    El Hefe from NOFX's palm muting is fantastic. - my left field vote.
  81. avatar rinky
    I know who'd be tastiest..

    [img:527d85bccd]http://www.rinky.org/images/yngwie.jpg[/img:527d85bccd]
  82. avatar thepalemonarch
    LMFAO @ Yngwie pic !
  83. avatar stevieo
    Without Flamenco, I'd say Tommy Emmanuel

    www.youtube.com/v/q9vNSA0WNlw&rel=1
  84. avatar deckygall
    dimebag, obviously
  85. avatar remedy malahide
    [quote:4eaa3445d8]I enjoy the tender fingerpickings of Nick Drake and indeed Paul Simon.

    Brian May's geetar sounds always had the most beautiful tone and his harmony orchestrations were a delight.[/quote:4eaa3445d8]

    I have to agree with you Feline, also I always loved the way some guitarists could play elaborate rhythms whilst singing along eg. Walter Schreifels, Chris Cornell, Leadbelly and Cormac Battle (amongst numerous others).
  86. avatar lincsman
    Hendrix
    Pete Townshend(researching his novel lol)
    Brian May
    Prince
    Clapton
  87. avatar nonlogic liam
    Helen Keller,
    Christie Brown...
  88. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    I though Johnny Marr would feature a lot more regularly in this whole shenanigan.
  89. avatar lincsman
    yeah i forgot jonny marr and also john squire
  90. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    two of my favourite...
  91. avatar The enfant terrible
    I used to love a good old twang until I snapped my banjo string. Sad day for all concerned.
  92. avatar boydzo
    Gary Moore
  93. avatar supersonicsolos
    noel God Gallagher
  94. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    When typing the name Gallagher in response to such a question, one should always be careful to ensure it is preceded by Rory.
  95. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    I used to like rory gallagher, find it tedious now though. But I'll still be at the festival, pissed as a fart.
  96. avatar my-angel-rocks
    Are farts generally pissed?
  97. avatar supersonicsolos
    [quote:e152ab49a3="DontPetABurningDog"]When typing the name Gallagher in response to such a question, one should always be careful to ensure it is preceded by Rory.[/quote:e152ab49a3]

    nah noel is amazin acoustic
  98. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:65663ecd2d="supersonicsolos"]nah noel is amazin acoustic[/quote:65663ecd2d]

    I know what you mean man...that Wonderwall. Its one of those guitar tunes that, you know, I don't think I've ever heard anyone play it. I guess it must be too hard or something.

    (Also in this category, the piano from Clocks by Coldplay)
  99. avatar Mutts Nutts
    good shot on the Seamie O'Dowd that man!

    Saw him at the Rory Gallagher festival in Ballyshannon a few years back and he stood out a mile in a sea of tributes cos he did all the acoustic stuff.

    Noel Gallagher though? Mate, if that's what you call quality, take a trip down Ann St some saturday, you'll be blown away!
  100. avatar die the flu
    Sel Balamir from Amplifier hits the perfect line between mood and melody on their first album if you ask me.

    Billy Howerdel of A Perfect Circle has a strange talent for writing guitar lines that fit brilliantly in the mix, but that you can't really always remember. Er, if you know what I mean. Mood mixed with melody.

    In terms of what makes an "amazing" guitarist I tend to look for ability to create textures rather than widdly-widdly shite, or even hooks. The guitarists who catch my ear are the ones who can combine the two in a subtle way (i.e. hooks and textures, not widdly-widdly shite).
  101. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote:5276ee7d9d="supersonicsolos"]noel God Gallagher[/quote:5276ee7d9d]

    Noel Gallagher could get blown off stage by the guy who busks outside Zavii (off the top of my head).
  102. avatar The enfant terrible
    To the guy who busks outside Zavii:

    this isn't a dig at you. You play well (you're no indians outside primark, but then who is?). Just saying any random guitarist could show noel up for the pleb he is. Fuck me oasis are shite.
  103. avatar supersonicsolos
    [quote:61a1ac56d0="The enfant terrible"][quote:61a1ac56d0="supersonicsolos"]noel God Gallagher[/quote:61a1ac56d0]

    Noel Gallagher could get blown off stage by the guy who busks outside Zavii (off the top of my head).[/quote:61a1ac56d0]

    why try and sleg the man .oasis were the first to play kenbworth 500'000 people cant b wrong you still get giros sound winde yr neck in fella
  104. avatar my-angel-rocks
    I take it you think Take That are very good too as their albums have gone platinum 19 times. 2.2million people can't be wrong, can they?
  105. avatar Mutts Nutts
    [quote:a30d7a9892]500'000 people cant b wrong [/quote:a30d7a9892]

    Jaysus, that's the population of Belfast.

    No.Irony.What.So.Ever.

    Huh?
  106. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    it's actually a scientific fact that 500,000 people [i:3d34111675]can't[/i:3d34111675] be wrong.

    The answer is Joshua Homme by the way.
  107. avatar supershedseven
    I really dont think Noel or Oasis's Popularity has much to do with the topic. As a huge Oasis fan myself i will stand by Noels guitaring as decent at best. Oasis's music i dont think would work with fast or irregular tuning or solo's anyway. Listning back to Be Here Now, there is way too much fiddly guitar loops and over produced keek on it. Noel writes effective cathy songs which appeal to a fair few million, but if you just learnt Oasis songs as a kid, you wouldnt be much a guitarist.

    Nick McCabe ... a king!!!
  108. avatar Mutts Nutts
    [quote:de7db2341c]it's actually a scientific fact that 500,000 people can't be wrong[/quote:de7db2341c]

    That'll explain Westlife then. :roll:
  109. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    I do enjoy noel's guitar playing but don't think it's anything spectacular. I always liked the production on each of their albums, EVEN Be Here Now, which was quite over produced methinks.
  110. avatar The enfant terrible
    Best guitarist in the world? Noel isn't even the best guitarist in Oasis.
  111. avatar Danny Lynch
    i love be here now! i thought it was one of their best, altho many will argue definitely maybe, and mornin glory were. theres some real good rockin songs on that like i hope i think i know and it's gettin better man.
    cant believe it took so long for rory gallagher to be mentioned above, like the 10th post...disgrace. what a legend.. him, john mayer, josh homme and if anyone has ever heard lindsey buckinham play big love live theyll agree with me that he has to be one of the best. i know it cant be judged on one song, but no average guitarist can play that and sing it so well simultaneously (probably spelt wrong)
  112. avatar Shane
    Gary Moore - not of 'Parisian Walkways' fame, but my Canadian cousin Gary Moore who can [i:cc50393977]nearly[/i:cc50393977] play the start of 'Enter Sandman'. Oh, and check this guy out! WATCH IT TO THE END.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMYeXkYcgs
  113. avatar Big Homeless
    thats very good, that made me guffaw, i thank you for that shane.
  114. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [quote:0be1f5a88c="The enfant terrible"]Best guitarist in the world? Noel isn't even the best guitarist in Oasis.[/quote:0be1f5a88c]

    The man has impeccable fashion these days though.
  115. avatar drakeguild
    I've shat with more technique than noel gallaghers guitar playing. for me its gotta be

    nick drake
    django reinhart
    bert jansch
    michael hedges
    rory gallagher
    elliott smith
  116. avatar sanzo2112
    The best in the world-Alex Lifeson
  117. avatar trepanner
    Caspar Brötzmann. Stunning depth.
  118. avatar Bones
    Acoustic:
    Richard Thompson
    Ry Cooder(electric too)
    Tommy Emmanuel
    My Da, Gerry Jones.

    Electric:
    Chris Hannah
    Jeff Hanneman
    Tom Morello

    Local:
    Rory Friars
    Rab Mc Cullagh
    The lads from Gamma Bomb(thrash-tastic!)
  119. avatar The enfant terrible
    Jason Orange
  120. avatar nonlogic liam
    [quote:111e48e12e="supersonicsolos"]noel God Gallagher[/quote:111e48e12e]

    Oh dear, I've seen more musical talent in a coma victim.
  121. avatar supersonicsolos
    yea i forgot that u wrote the biggest album in the 90s?
  122. avatar The enfant terrible
    Did non logicliam write nevermind?
  123. avatar supersonicsolos
    haha i thik you`ll find thats whats the story moring glory mucker
  124. avatar The enfant terrible
    DId non logic liam write that? Wow, I gotta hand it to you mate, I hated what you did with Get It On by Trex.
  125. avatar supersonicsolos
    its magic init.i love the way that smack head kurt stole the come as you are riff.why people not like noel on this fourm .he draged guitar music out of the gutter.say what ya like about songs beenin easy or what every but sure dats whalt its all about 3 chords .wee buns
  126. avatar The enfant terrible
    No way man, noel is a scumbag who pals about with tony blair trying to get a sniff of his used boxers and stealing cherries knickers. Pure filth, great stuff. How did a working class boy in a rock and roll band ever get it so good?

    He should be working in a Dairylee factory spunking off in the cheese and making Michael Jackson jokes.
  127. avatar supersonicsolos
    Dont make a differance hes a fukin amazin songwriter witch is what he classes him self as . the mans a legend
  128. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:c87121b90e="supersonicsolos"] hes a fukin amazin songwriter witch [/quote:c87121b90e]

    He's a witch? Burn him!

    But seriously...

    BURN HIM!
  129. avatar exitonline
    [quote:3a6bcbfaa3="supersonicsolos"]Dont make a differance hes a fukin amazin songwriter witch is what he classes him self as[/quote:3a6bcbfaa3]

    Exactly, he's a good songwriter...not a great guitar player. Noel himself stated about his own disbelief when he was named one of the greatest guitarist of all time in a famous guitar magazine (at end of 90's/2000)where he beat true guitar greats to the top of the poll.

    Ok, Oasis and bands like them where probably "one" of the bands to bring the guitar back to the mainstream in the 1990's (in UK) and suddenly kids started becoming interested in guitars again. Noel has even stated in interviews about not knowing a single scale or what the notes are on the instrument, he is a guesswork player and whilst this approach is good for what he is doing he should not even be considered in the same breath as true virtuoso players or people who revolutionised guitar playing by introducing the world to various techniques or sounds.

    Just for reference my influences and the people who I consider who revolutionised guitar playing etc are:

    Brian May, Jeff Beck, Eric Johnson, Mark Knopfler, Eric Clapton, Lindsey Buckingham, Rory Gallagher, David Gilmore, Chet Atkins, John Williams, Jimi Hendrix, Peter Green.
  130. avatar my-angel-rocks
    [quote:56184cf713="supersonicsolos"]haha i thik you`ll find thats whats the story moring glory mucker[/quote:56184cf713]

    Bzzzt!

    [i:56184cf713]Nevermind (1991)[/i:56184cf713] - 26million copies sold worldwide (as of 2007) - 1.625m copies a year.

    [i:56184cf713]Whats the story, morning glory (1995)[/i:56184cf713] - 18million copies sold worldwide (as of 2007) - 1.5m copies a year.

    [i:56184cf713]...Baby One More Time (1999)[/i:56184cf713] - 35million copies sold worldwide (as of 2007) - 3.9m copies a year.

    Even accounting for Nevermind's 4 year headstart it still outsells What's the story morning glory. Meanwhile, Britney is leaving them standing in her dust.

    To pick up on your other point that Liam hasn't made the biggest album of the nineties and so his opinion on Noel is invalid. By the same logic it therefore follows that, as you have not made the biggest album of the nineties either, your opinion is just as invalid (as is mine).
  131. avatar Big Homeless
    the guy from swigging mutton.
  132. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    [quote:91dfdb9cf0="exitonline"]he is a guesswork player and whilst this approach is good for what he is doing he should not even be considered in the same breath as true virtuoso players or people who revolutionised guitar playing by introducing the world to various techniques or sounds.

    .[/quote:91dfdb9cf0]

    It's all about feeling, man.
  133. avatar supershedseven
    [quote:c8d559b5a4="supersonicsolos"]its magic init.i love the way that smack head kurt stole the come as you are riff.why people not like noel on this fourm .he draged guitar music out of the gutter.say what ya like about songs beenin easy or what every but sure dats whalt its all about 3 chords .wee buns[/quote:c8d559b5a4]

    Lad, im probably a bigger Oasis fan than you, but your even making me cringe here. Noel didnt drag guitar music out of the gutter, he swung popular rock music back to Britan from 94 - 99. The whole 90's Britpop thing was my favourite music era, Noel couldnt hold a candle to some of the other bands at that time. Take Nick McCabe of the Verve, Bernard Butler from Suede or even JDB from the Manics, those guys are far better guitarists than Noel could ever wish to be. There isnt a doubt that Noels had the ability to make a really catchy song on a regular basis, but being an amazing guitarist he wasnt.

    For me Morning Glory was the biggest record of the 90's, again is say this from the British point of view, down to the fact i aint American and i find a lot of grunge was negitive and never got the whole, im a little angry and depressed due to addiction bla bla whatever, but Morning Glory wasnt even Oasis's best album.

    I think we are getting well of topic here... Noel's not a great guitarist. A handy songwriter yes. NEXT....
  134. avatar exitonline
    [quote:3c43a0ae2e="Mickeycolensoparade"][quote:3c43a0ae2e="exitonline"]he is a guesswork player and whilst this approach is good for what he is doing he should not even be considered in the same breath as true virtuoso players or people who revolutionised guitar playing by introducing the world to various techniques or sounds.

    .[/quote:3c43a0ae2e]

    It's all about feeling, man.[/quote:3c43a0ae2e]

    ha ha, Yeah, fair point...im not disregarding this, playing with passion, feeling etc is part of music. Im just saying that players that combine knowledge of the instrument, technique, passion/feeling and an easily identifiable sound are a rare find and those are the type players who interest me....the bluffers guide to guitar gets old very quickly.
  135. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    yeah, we're all sweet, can we not all get along :wink:
  136. avatar robbiehill
    gotta say Dimebag Darrell
  137. avatar confetti
    duane allman
    mark knopfler
  138. avatar thewhitehendrix
    Tommy Emmanuel is probably the best stand alone guitarist in the world, in terms of what he can do and how amazingly he does it, ive seen him twice now and both times im totally inspired.

    Stevie Ray Vaughan, is in my honest opinion the greatest electric guitarist to have ever lived, when he plays its completely natural and has this ability to play all over the guitar without ever thinking about it. He should be better known, its a crime he isn't, that guitar hero thing helped but still...

    also jimi wasn't bad.......
  139. avatar belezabaub
    My first post!
    The guy from Roxette should defo not be overlooked. I also think Jim Corr deserves a mention. Does Bono play guitar? I'm not sure, but he certainly holds a guitar with purpose. Check the video for "with or without you". I'd bet all my folding money kept in an elastic band, stuffed in the left hip pocket of my fancy jeans that Bono is the greatest guitarist ever. The guy is singlehandedly saving the world, six pieces of wire on a clump of wood would hardly faze him.
  140. avatar mck_776
    Rory Gallagher is by far the best in my opinion!

    He could play so many different styles, could play pretty damn fast when he wanted, and mastered the slide guitar!

    SRV is close, but Rory could play more than just the guitar too!

    Gilmour for solos though...

    Would also agree with Tommy Emmanuel being up there! Some of his early electric work is exceptional!
  141. avatar confetti
    [quote:0499c204f3="mck_776"]Rory Gallagher is by far the best in my opinion!

    He could play so many different styles, could play pretty damn fast when he wanted, and mastered the slide guitar!
    [/quote:0499c204f3]
    yep and his slide guitar hero was Duane Allman. Duane also heavily influenced Eric Clapton, he was involved heavily on Layla and other assorted love songs. Duane Allman is never given the recognition he deserves, his work is immense and he died at 24 which makes it ever more astounding,
  142. avatar zakk2bwylde
    Has to be satch guys sry
    for melody,tone and skill

    check out this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXsDeQXNB1k

    also love this video of vai's for the love of god

    I remember watching this on the tv in 1992 and was blown away by the whole gig.

    I recommend getting hold of a copy on ebay its historic.
  143. avatar Redfin
    most people have already named all the usual suspects but Nils Lofgren hasn't been mentioned. His acoustic solo at the end of "black books" is the kind of thing that makes you wonder why you bother. Also Robert Johnson for blues. Even though it was really the devil whose was doing the playing. :wink:
  144. avatar Setzer
    Totally agree with you there Zakk.

    Satch is just so good its scarey,people unfortunately lump him in with the shredders which is plain stupid,they must never have listened to any of his stuff past Surfing.

    He has developed so much over the years since his first album and his stuff is not all fast playing that a lot of people seem to think.Great feeling awesome technique brilliant tone.

    Albert Lee,Jerry Donahue,Brent Mason,Danny Gatton those guys are spectacular too strange they havent been mentioned.

    Malmsteen not mentioned so far ;-) ,that name always gets a discussion going.
  145. avatar salfhal
    Hard question to answer... Some of my favs are based on pure skill, others on song writing ability

    Rory Gallagher
    Lance Abbot Dimebag Darrell
    Dave Mustaine
    Eric Clapton
    Mattias Eklundh
    Claudio Sanchez
    Eddie Van Halen
    Marty Friedman
    John Petrucci
    Joe Satriani
    Paul Gilbert
    and mustn't forget the poor Jason Becker (many of you won't know him, was in a Symphony Metal band with Friedman called Cacophany & Dave Lee Roth's band, now dying Lou Gehrig's Disease and can only move his eyes, still writing music using some awesome computer program).
  146. avatar Mr.Coneman
    I hate these stupid fucking polls. FUCK.

    You cannot put into a numeric list the best *anything* in terms of music. A Subjective musical art form, and the next time someone does my blood will fucking boil over.

    Right. You've all seen these Rolling Stone magazine top 100 guitarists/drummers/bassists/vocalists lists too, right?
    The kind of list that puts Kurt Cobain in the top 10, because he played with Nirvana, when a guy like Jeff Beck, arguably one of the greatest guitarists of all time, and easily one of the most influential musicians in any music from of our generation gets left behind in the 50 somethings.

    The kind of list that puts Jimi Hendrix in the number one spot. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. And not because anyone truly believes that he was the best, it's because that mindset has been handed down. From when? The fucking Sixties. Jimi Hendrix was a wonderful guitar player, I'm a huge fan, his rhythm was great, he was the original guitar hero, and his influence on the instrument is absolutely un-surpassed. But the fact is, the guitar has moved on, into way more complex and even more emotive places, the guitar did NOT begin and end with Jimi Hendrix. If you put Jimi Hendrix in todays musical spectrum, he wouldn't know what he was doing beside someone like Joe Satriani (who by the way, was in the 30 odds in these stupid lists), and you know what? even back in Jimi's day he wasn't the greatest around...in my opinion anyway. He had competition, there was David Gilmour, Rory Gallagher, Jeff Beck, Jimi Page, all sorts of other guys. And that's not to say they are even ultimately better players, I just simply want to show...and I'll emphasize. JIMI HENDRIX IS NOT, WAS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE, THE BE ALL AND END ALL OF ELECTRIC GUITAR. Thanks.

    These lists are pathetic, and completely based on popularity and common misconception and who is popular at the time. Rather than what it should be based upon, musical understanding or technical skill. Oh, and seriously, trying to figure out who's the 'best' in music, a subjective art form, is completely anti-productive, impossible, and moreover, really fucking stupid. Who the hell cares? You like what you like and move on.

    I wish they would stop with these lists. Especially because the less well informed take them as golden shiny beacons of truth, I swear to God, the next person to tell me Jack White is a more talented guitarist than someone like Jeff Beck, or Randy Rhoads because Rolling Stone or whatever said so is going to be greeted with a good hard back handing.

    So if you took the time to read this, please, don't be one of the uninformed, make your own decisions, and try not to get roped into to this bullshit "music is a competition" mentality. Like what you like, and screw anyone that tells you other wise.

    In saying all of that though... some of my *favourite* guitar players...
    David Gilmour, Randy Rhoads, Slash, Joe Satriani, Rory Gallagher, all the Thin Lizzy guys, digging alot of Slap/Tap acoustic stuff at the minute, Erik Mongrain sort of things.
  147. avatar The Stav
    Ah, but Hendrix was the best.

    So there.
  148. avatar Deestroyer
    Aw, Mr Coneman, why you cry?
    [quote:f2730199e2]In saying all of that though... some of my *favourite* guitar players...[/quote:f2730199e2]Essentially this is all these lists are and all they can be. It's a top ten list of everyone's favourite guitar players, or the ones they think are the best. Of course it's subjective - that's not new information. If I want to make a top ten of my favourite dinners, I'll defend my right to do so.
    It's just a bit of fun, fuck sake lad, chill the fuck out.
    And if you don't know why Jimi ends up number one all the time, well it's cause you're just not considering all the criteria. Yours are technical proficiency and emotive ability. So what. The magazines obviously take fan reverence, influence, innovation, or other such stuff into consideration. Again, so what, who cares. It's just a list.

    Here's my favourite dinners:
    Homemade hamburgers
    My Ma's Fish Pie
    Christmas Dinner
    Italian breads with olives, humous, salami, pastrami, feta cheese and all that stuff.
    Champ and smoked fish
    A Fry
    Sea food chowder
    Fillet steak and side
    Tagliatelle with a creamy wild mushroom sauce
    Lasagne.
  149. avatar tinpot anto
    Hendrix was and still is the best.

    Anyone who thinks otherwise is deliberately being a wanker.
  150. avatar Chi-Lite
    Like them people who pretend to like the Beatles. :tongue:

    Actually, some music is class and some is shit. And a corollary of that is that some is less or more class than some others.

    The only problem really is that generally the people who write the lists wouldn't know class if it stabbed them in the eye.
  151. avatar tinpot anto
    The Beatles are shite at playing the guitar.
  152. avatar Chi-Lite
    Arrgghh "Pretend #NOT# to like the Beatles I meant!

    I'm away.

    but no, the boul Georgie's class at guitar.
  153. avatar Mr.Coneman
    [quote:19822f9954="Deestroyer"]Aw, Mr Coneman, why you cry?
    [quote:19822f9954]In saying all of that though... some of my *favourite* guitar players...[/quote:19822f9954]Essentially this is all these lists are and all they can be. It's a top ten list of everyone's favourite guitar players, or the ones they think are the best. Of course it's subjective - that's not new information. If I want to make a top ten of my favourite dinners[/quote:19822f9954]
    I know this, and am perfectly chilled. The only thing is that these lists DO NOT ever mention the fact that it's subjective and portray themselves as substance of fact. Which then filters down to morons who take it as fact, and like to argue causes like Kurt Cobain being a better guitarist than Jeff Beck because a magazine told them so. I get it probably doesn't apply to people on a music forum who will likely know what they're talking about, but surely anyone can see why this would grind my gears?

    I'd like to mention that I, by the way, fucking love Jimi Hendrix, one of my all time favourite guitar players, he's just not the greatest to have ever lived.
  154. avatar Chi-Lite
    Who is then? Or does that question just open up a big massive contradictory can of worms?


    EDIT; in case that was too subtle, I was pointing out the difficulty in claiming that all music is subjective, and that it is impossible to say whos is "the greatest", and then going on to claim that "X ISN'T the greatest". Isn't that also subjective too then? And, if that's the case, doesn't that mean that every pleb and his uncle is simultaneously both "the greatest" and "not the greatest"? And doesn't that, in turn, make even bothering to say "X is the greatest" or "X is not the greatest" completely pointless and contrary to the spirit of what you've just said five minutes ago? Or am I just a wanker? And, even if I am, still like...
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  155. avatar tinpot anto
    Yes he is though.
  156. avatar Deestroyer
    The last best guitar list I read put together by a magazine did indeed have Jimi at the top (I don't really listen to Jimi anymore but he's definitely pivotal in to modern guitar), but a lot of the best players were in there; Django, Morello, Pass, Beck, Benson, Greenwood, Green, etc.
    The last 'voted for by readers' I read had that twat from Stereophonics above Brian May while the equally twatish Noel Gallagher was in the top three or something FFS.
    You like what you like because of your circumstances. Non guitar players like the last two tubes because they play mundane melodies that are stuck to songs they like. It's no surprise to me they are bored by Joscho Stefan whizzing around a guitar neck.
    Experienced guitarists have more of an idea about what goes into guitar playing, and can recognise what is difficult or innovative or whatever.
    I can't sing a note, but singer friends of mine revere people I'd otherwise have no time for and admonish those I thought had an appealing voice.
    Lists are just lists. They are silly and a bit of fun. The opinion of anyone who takes them seriously isn't really worth worrying about.
  157. avatar Mr.Coneman
    [quote:e31d89c2f6="Chi-Lite"]Who is then? Or does that question just open up a big massive contradictory can of worms?


    EDIT; in case that was too subtle, I was pointing out the difficulty in claiming that all music is subjective, and that it is impossible to say whos is "the greatest", and then going on to claim that "X ISN'T the greatest". Isn't that also subjective too then? And, if that's the case, doesn't that mean that every pleb and his uncle is simultaneously both "the greatest" and "not the greatest"? And doesn't that, in turn, make even bothering to say "X is the greatest" or "X is not the greatest" completely pointless and contrary to the spirit of what you've just said five minutes ago? Or am I just a wanker? And, even if I am, still like...[/quote:e31d89c2f6]
    Yes and no, obviously theres different ways to argue it, but I mean, no I don't think there is a possible 'greatest'. Because people are better at different things, ask Andres Segovia to play Eruption and he can't, but does that make Eddie Van Halen better than him? Ask Eddie Van Halen to play...probably anything Andres Segovia can play and he won't...again...

    You're right there is no real way to say it, buttt, there still is some level of objectivity when it comes to this, you or I, can listen to two guitarists, lets take two extremes to make it easy...a punk guitarist, and a person with a degree in classical guitar. We're both going to know who is the better musician. To me comparing Kurt Cobain to Randy Rhoads is almost the same as that, and with these lists getting it *that* wrong, it's just annoying. I was just pointing out how ridiculous the lists are. I'm not offering a definitive way to do it better, nor am I saying don't try, I'm just saying I can't stand the lists that get popularised and repeated on the internet and in magazines, taken as fact, when I'd say most people here agree with me, in that even though they technically can't be "wrong" because it's subjective, they're a far fucking shot from being even close to "right".

    [quote:e31d89c2f6="tinpot anto"]Yes he is though.[/quote:e31d89c2f6]
    He's not though.
  158. avatar tinpot anto
    No but he really is. I proved it by asking God, and he said "Scuse me while I kiss the sky".

    Plus your ma
  159. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:cdca05d52c="Mr.Coneman"]I don't think there is a possible 'greatest'. Because people are better at different things[/quote:cdca05d52c]



    [quote:cdca05d52c="Mr.Coneman"]you or I can listen to two guitarists...We're both going to know who is the better musician.[/quote:cdca05d52c]


    [quote:cdca05d52c="Mr.Coneman"]even though they technically can't be "wrong" because it's subjective, they're a far fucking shot from being even close to "right".[/quote:cdca05d52c]


    All of the above is mad contradictions. If you can't be "wrong" because it's so subjective, you can't be "right" either. Stands to reason, doesn't it.

    Personally, I think you're just caught in a dilemma of knowing fine rightly that some things are shite and some things are class, but being unable to understand how people disagree with you.

    It's quite simple though. Loads and loads of people just don't know what they're talking about. that may, or may not, include you. Or me. ;)
  160. avatar Mr.Coneman
    [quote:840680a351="Chi-Lite"]


    All of the above is mad contradictions. If you can't be "wrong" because it's so subjective, you can't be "right" either. Stands to reason, doesn't it.
    [/quote:840680a351]
    The quotations above wrong and right were supposed to portray the fact that you can't be either in a subjective err...subject. But I'm pretty sure you can be ridiculously wrong, and closer to accurate. I.E naming 10 people who can actually play the guitar rather than having Kurt Cobain anywhere near the top 100 because he was influential.

    Well, at this point I think we both generally know what we're trying to say and are arguing for the sake of it

    [quote:840680a351="tinpot anto"]No but he really is. I proved it by asking God, and he said "Scuse me while I kiss the sky".

    Plus your ma[/quote:840680a351]
    Yer mas yer da, and yer das yer ma.

    edit: quote system is weird in this place.
  161. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:4d94c9a87d="Mr.Coneman"]The quotations above wrong and right were supposed to portray the fact that you can't be either in a subjective err...subject. But I'm pretty sure you can be ridiculously wrong[/quote:4d94c9a87d]

    You do realise that you've just said "you can't be right or wrong, but you can be wrong", don't you?

    Anyway, your ma got heckled on in the old Harp Bar
  162. avatar Mr.Coneman
    [quote:e3b0ed0a83="Chi-Lite"][quote:e3b0ed0a83="Mr.Coneman"]The quotations above wrong and right were supposed to portray the fact that you can't be either in a subjective err...subject. But I'm pretty sure you can be ridiculously wrong[/quote:e3b0ed0a83]

    You do realise that you've just said "you can't be right or wrong, but you can be wrong", don't you?
    [/quote:e3b0ed0a83]
    Yes, and you know exactly what I'm trying to say, so I'm not going to bother going further into it.

    [quote:e3b0ed0a83="Chi-Lite"]
    Anyway, your ma got heckled on in the old Harp Bar[/quote:e3b0ed0a83]
    That's actually very likely.
  163. avatar tinpot anto
    Aye but see you're adamant that Hendrix is NOT the best guitarist, whilst at the same time saying such things are completely arbitrary.

    I say he is the best guitarist because I thought about it recently and had a wee listen between him, Peter Green and Rory GAllagher, and though I love them all I had to admit the "Woodstock Improv" seals the deal.

    Plus if you like Joe Satriani you clearly hate music and your own ears, so you judgement is questionable.

    [img:c8b9644672]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_sT25j09iTbY/Sm-1B94rdXI/AAAAAAAAUM0/ouhTAAZW9Wk/s400/7_which_record-David+Shrigley.jpg[/img:c8b9644672]
  164. avatar Mr.Coneman
    [quote:d668bd1f1b="tinpot anto"]Aye but see you're adamant that Hendrix is NOT the best guitarist, whilst at the same time saying such things are completely arbitrary.

    I say he is the best guitarist because I thought about it recently and had a wee listen between him, Peter Green and Rory GAllagher, and though I love them all I had to admit the "Woodstock Improv" seals the deal.
    [/quote:d668bd1f1b]
    Personally I'd say Rory eats and shits Jimi, but we like what we like.

    [quote:d668bd1f1b="tinpot anto"]
    Plus if you like Joe Satriani you clearly hate music and your own ears, so you judgement is questionable.
    [/quote:d668bd1f1b]
    What a completely ignorant statement. I know if you'd actually listened to him and not gone on his stupid "shredder" reputation you'd never be saying that, because *most* of his stuff is actually very melodic, very musical, and not very SUPERSHRED. His number one favourite guitarist actually is Jimi Hendrix.

    My judgement is questionable for enjoying this fucking beautful peice of music?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yc8xyL0Xxo
  165. avatar tinpot anto
    But I thought such things were arbitrary.



    I especially can't stand Joe Satrianis attempts at emotive melodic music. It's horrible smarmy insipid music. Compare to anything by Peter green or even bb king. But then I like Blues much more than rock see?
  166. avatar Mr.Coneman
    Oh I see, we're operating on the assumption that you can tell me whos better, and my judgement is flawed because we dont like the same music. Awesome.

    Anyway, that Joe Bonamassa is pretty good.
  167. avatar Deestroyer
    I like Joe Bonamassa. But yeah, that's how it works. You say you like or dislike something, and everyone else says if they agree or don't agree. Then we all pointlessly argue about who's right and who isn't, citing various criteria that makes whoever we like the best. It's like top trumps, but you just make up the categories as you go along. It's great! We then argue around in circles for a few pages until someone stops or something more interesting comes up or someone says "we'll have to agree to disagree" or some shit like that. Easy!
    I think I'm the best guitarist in the world. So there.
  168. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:717ec6cb66="Mr.Coneman"]Oh I see, we're operating on the assumption that you can tell me whos better, and my judgement is flawed because we dont like the same music[/quote:717ec6cb66]

    Haha, i thought we were operating on the assumption (yours) that no one can say anything about who's better and who's not. That's why we're all confused when, after telling us all that, you then proceed to tell us who [i:717ec6cb66]is[/i:717ec6cb66] better.

    Haha, this is just mad.
  169. avatar Mr.Coneman
    Christ! I said there was some level of objectivity, because there is! I'm not opening the argument again though, fuck that.

    So ahh, Erik Mongrain, he's pretty good.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbndgwfG22k
  170. avatar BinaryOperator
    [quote:9bbde08356="Deestroyer"]

    Here's my favourite dinners:
    Homemade hamburgers
    My Ma's Fish Pie
    Christmas Dinner
    Italian breads with olives, humous, salami, pastrami, feta cheese and all that stuff.
    Champ and smoked fish
    A Fry
    Sea food chowder
    Fillet steak and side
    Tagliatelle with a creamy wild mushroom sauce
    Lasagne.[/quote:9bbde08356]

    Ohhhh now there's a list.

    There's some corkers in there alright.

    I likes me a good fish pie. I do prefer some mussels, Prawns n whatnot in there too.

    My list would be something like:

    Ribeye Steak. Medium Rare. Properly rested. Accompanied by some good mash or champ. Green beans or similar.

    seared scallops. spinach. Panchetta. warm balsamic vinaigrette.

    Lamb Shank, slow cooked with red wine, rosemary and some bramble jelly. Champ or mash.

    Roast chicken. Roasties etc (chicken or goose fat). Actually, fuck that. Roast chicken SKIN. TASTY SKIN. Possibly one of the tastiest things in the universe ever. SKIN!

    Home made sausage rolls. I like sausage rolls. I had a go at making "good" ones. OH MY GOD! Pork and leek. Good Pork. Nice puff pastry, decent egg wash etc.

    Stew, but french daube style (made 2 days before etc). It is nicer than your ma's stew. It. Just. Is.

    BBQ Ribs. Proper slow cooked BBQ.

    Jaysus I'm hungry now.
  171. avatar Chi-Lite
    [quote:8547557aab="Mr.Coneman"]Christ! I said there was some level of objectivity, because there is! I'm not opening the argument again though, fuck that.[/quote:8547557aab]

    You see, that's the confusing thing. You say there is some level of objectivity, then you say it's all subjective, Then you say there is some level of objectivity again, then you say there's no point arguing about it because its all subjective. And then you do argue about it, and start saying that there's some level of objectivity. And then you say that it's all subjective so there's no point arguing about it. But then you say that Jimi Hendrix isn't the best, because there's some level of objectivity. But then you say that Joe Satriani isn't shite, because it's all subjective.

    That's the confusing bit.

    Personally, i think it's entirely objective. The Horslips are class, The Swadoctors are class, Peter Green's class, Rory Gallagher's class. The Outhere Brothers are crap. the Vengaboys are crap. Celine Dion is crap (i realise I'm only talking mid 90s music here, but that's as far as i go). the difficulty is the bits in between. But, of course, without the two poles of objectivity, there could be no in between to debate about and everything would be just as good or crap as everything else. but that obviously isn't the case, therefore musical value is objective. QED.:lol:

    Yes, ok, I'm talking shite. It's all true though.
  172. avatar Mr.Coneman
    Yer collective mas are subjective.
  173. avatar Deestroyer
    [quote:a513e476a2]Roast chicken. Roasties etc (chicken or goose fat). Actually, fuck that. Roast chicken SKIN. TASTY SKIN. Possibly one of the tastiest things in the universe ever. SKIN![/quote:a513e476a2]Yep. Yep.
    Think we had this out before about music quality being objective and decided that it was. However, the stuff in the middle makes for the most quarrelsome fodder, but that's were the fun lies.
    Not a fan of Satriani or Vai or Malmsteem or any of their ilk (Gilbert is ok). To me they [i:a513e476a2]try[/i:a513e476a2] to make their songs 'emotional' (sometimes at least). But trying to add emotion to a song is really defeating the purpose. It's either in there or it isn't. The song is emotional or it's not.
    Ever see Malmsteem try to play the blues? It's like trying to get a computer to weep at a picture of an injured deer.

    [url=<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/N0OwMbc9t-o&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/N0OwMbc9t-o&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>]Malmsteem [i:a513e476a2]Blues[/i:a513e476a2][/url]
  174. avatar ThePenguin
    Don't normally reply to these topics, but I just saw Horslips last night for the first time, and it reminded me just why Johnny Fean was one of my early guitar heroes.
    The man's a legend. As are the rest of the band of course, but what a guitarist. What a gig.
    Hope these two gigs aren't all they're planning.
  175. avatar Snipergoat
    Disturbing lack of Robert Fripp in this thread. If you haven't already heard it check out his work with Brian Eno on No Pussyfooting.
  176. avatar Mr.Coneman
    Just thought I'd mention I thoroughly dislike Malmsteen. I don't mind Paul Gilbert, I enjoy some of Steve Vai, but I love Satch. He's really the only one of that school of guitar players that I really listen to.