1. avatar die the flu
    Whats the best combo you can buy for under a grand?
  2. avatar tinpot anto
    Fender Twin.
  3. avatar Pete
    How long is a piece of string??
  4. avatar Numbnut Sounds
    Fender Blues Deluxe
  5. avatar die the flu
    [quote:aceaf831dd]How long is a piece of string??[/quote:aceaf831dd]

    I dunno, but I'm pretty sure my PRS won't sound too good through it.

    Are Fender's not a bit clangy? Up until now I've been a Marshall man, and was set on getting a good head to go with my cab, but on further consideration I've realized I have no concerns about the size of my penis and would be more than happy with a superb combo that sounds better than a mid-range head and is easier to lug about.

    I was looking at Mesa-Boogies and the like, but they're still a fortune. I need a nice warm overdrive sound and a good clean channel. And something that can mic up well when required. For some reason the majority of combos seem to be either over a grand or cheap as chips, with little in the way of middle to high end stuff.
  6. avatar pat - lwr
    fender all the way
    twin, or even deville
    perfect for recording and the nicest and warmest clean sound out there
  7. avatar The Grace Jones
    [quote:7004d62c5c="die the flu"]
    on further consideration I've realized I have no concerns about the size of my penis
    [/quote:7004d62c5c]


    [img:7004d62c5c]http://media.zzounds.com/media/feed/large/MSHMS2.jpg[/img:7004d62c5c]
  8. avatar Pete
    If you play music that is in anyway heavy then a Fender isn't really going to cut it unless you rely on overdrive pedals in front of it. If you want an amp that can keep up with heavy gain needs then look out for a second hand mesa boogie. A Rectoverb is what I'd get.

    Or a second hand Cornford if you can find one.

    Or new at almost £1000 would be the Hiwatt Hi-Gain 50. I've never heard the hi-gain version, but the Custom 50 is brilliant.
  9. avatar stevie j
    Hughes and kettner
    really any of their amps are amazing.

    If you're looking it for playing live, don't get anything over 50 watt max, preferably even 20 watt. Amps sound best when the volume is at 70-100% and any sound guy will get you to keep the volume low,
    So the best sound comes from driving a small amp hard rather than having a big thing turned to 1.5
  10. avatar die the flu
    Yeah, the Mesa-Boogies apear to do the job nicely and have had a bit of effort put in to them. Pricey though, and not that many floating about second hand.

    Cornford's do a few for under a grand new but they seem to be geared towards recording/home use rather than gigging.

    I definitely think a Fender aint for me, I'm not exactly doing metal but the option to indulge in thundering riffage is required and I want to try and avoid pedals.

    It would mainly be for live use. I guess I'd better go try some out around town at the Guitar Emporium, etc.

    Just seeking a general consensus on whats worth considering!!
  11. avatar die the flu
    [quote:49ec5109ff="stevie j"]
    If you're looking it for playing live, don't get anything over 50 watt max, preferably even 20 watt. Amps sound best when the volume is at 70-100% and any sound guy will get you to keep the volume low,
    So the best sound comes from driving a small amp hard rather than having a big thing turned to 1.5[/quote:49ec5109ff]

    Yup, precisely my thinking.
  12. avatar penthouserehersal
    as an alternative to fender



    http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/hurricane/3172



    http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/marshall-1974x/13285



    i bet the marshall would rock
  13. avatar Numbnut Sounds
    and remember the wattage

    i love my tube amp (blues deluxe), but more often than not, 40w is just too loud once you've cranked it to a nice level
  14. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    Fender Supersonic.

    Lovely, lovely amp.

    Engl Screamer 50 might be better for riffage, though. The Supersonic has a really nice singing lead tone, but not so much for rhythm, I found.

    There may be a Matamp somewhere to suit you, and the Orange Rockerverb, whilst simple in design is no slouch.

    The Laney TT50 Combo is also rather pleasant.

    Edit: Them New Hughes and Kettner Statesman yokes look pretty tasty too, but more of a bluesers amp. You'd be hard pushed to do better in the grand arena than a second-hand H&K triamp.

    Essentially, the less power the amp has for the money, the better it tends to be*



    [size=9:afaa48789e]Not a guarantee[/size:afaa48789e]
  15. avatar tinpot anto
    Saw those Fender Supersonic Amps in Marcus there, that might be the ticket, supposedly allows you to switch between the classic open fender tube tone and the tight modern rock crunch - might be worth a look.
    http://www.reidys.com/index.pl?submit=View_PLU&PLU=4719

    [img:2e7fbf8a5a]http://www.reidys.com/images/products/5527.jpg[/img:2e7fbf8a5a]
    Sexy looking thing too.
  16. avatar Pete
    I have been giving quizzical looks to the Supersonic head. But it's new with very few people using it.

    And I fear change...

    [img:2094c2930f]http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/images/editorial/generalarticle/entertainment/Celebs/Bad_haircuts/waynes_world_sep05_rex_170.jpg[/img:2094c2930f]
  17. avatar chrisjedijane
    I like the look of the Super Sonic too, especially with the blonde tolex.

    [img:654b9a72f4]http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/6/9/331869.jpg[/img:654b9a72f4]

    but why oh why doesn't the head have reverb when the combo does? This pains me. Get with it, Fender!
  18. avatar Rory McConnell
    Engl have the best clean channel I've ever heard. When set right the overdrive's pretty gut wrenching too. as you know i'm using a Powerball head though. can't vouch for the screamer but i'm yet to read a bad review. Only one eq but that's not going to be a problem as there's 4 drive modes rather than 4 channels, and for home use that's all you'll need. should be about £500 new
  19. avatar die the flu
    Yes, the ENGLs look like just the job actually...
  20. avatar oxo
    [quote:31a5cbcfd8="die the flu"]Whats the best combo you can buy for under a grand?[/quote:31a5cbcfd8]peavey classic 30 or the traynor ycv20wr. bairds have both in stock,call down with your geetarr and give them a go. 8)
  21. avatar DontPetABurningDog
    Totally. The Blonde/Oxblood look is fantastic.

    It's predecessor, the Prosonic was no slouch of an amp either, and came in a killer combo of green tolex with classic "Blackface" fascia.

    If it were a young lady, I would have bought it a pint.
  22. avatar racecarisracecarbackwards
    Vox AC30??
  23. avatar oxo
    [quote:3dab321791="racecarisracecarbackwards"]Vox AC30??[/quote:3dab321791]Great amp!!! :P
  24. avatar The Natural
    Engl have poor definition.
    They're loud but kinda muddy when the gain's pushed on, just like the Marshall Mode 4.
    Cornford or second hand Mesa definitely.
    As for the info about the twenty watts or even the forty, at that range "good clean channnel" is out, unless you plan in keeping to your front room or gigs that hold fifty people max.
  25. avatar Pete
    [quote:9a6f51fee8="The Natural"]unless you plan in keeping to your front room or gigs that hold fifty people max.[/quote:9a6f51fee8]

    Or use a PA perhaps?
  26. avatar DuncanDisorderly
    [quote:866b9d7c98="oxo"][quote:866b9d7c98="racecarisracecarbackwards"]Vox AC30??[/quote:866b9d7c98]Great amp!!! :P[/quote:866b9d7c98]

    i have the ac15 and i likes!
  27. avatar Speed Demon
    [quote:ec1b5d9355="Pete"][quote:ec1b5d9355="The Natural"]unless you plan in keeping to your front room or gigs that hold fifty people max.[/quote:ec1b5d9355]

    Or use a PA perhaps?[/quote:ec1b5d9355]This is a great idea! You could put a microphone in front of the speaker and amplify the output enormously!

    Of course, you'd need to learn to say "Can I have a bit more guitar in the monitor please, Mac." :wink:
  28. avatar thepalemonarch
    15 grams of coke and a shitload of refined MDMA
  29. avatar chrisjedijane
    [quote:1b9b71fe36="The Natural"]Tell you what, don't buy that amp, buy one that's twice as expensive. LOL![/quote:1b9b71fe36]

    surely?

    Do we know what kind of amp die the flu is looking yet? If not, this thread is pointless. It's not much use saying "AC30" if he wants a mega-channel high gain amp...
  30. avatar Numbnut Sounds
    from what i know of the stuff you play etc i'd say the Engl combos would be a good bet

    totally not my scene, but the Engl head that Rory has is mighty impressive...i too thought the clean channel on the Engl combo was really nice.....i just wasnt as keen on the drive (probably more to your liking though)
  31. avatar racecarisracecarbackwards
    [quote:8211854883="chrisjedijane"][quote:8211854883="The Natural"]Tell you what, don't buy that amp, buy one that's twice as expensive. LOL![/quote:8211854883]

    surely?

    Do we know what kind of amp die the flu is looking yet? If not, this thread is pointless. It's not much use saying "AC30" if he wants a mega-channel high gain amp...[/quote:8211854883]

    He said "I need a nice warm overdrive sound and a good clean channel".
  32. avatar stevie j
    Who is 'the Natural'?
    He has no concept of music technology and is constantly trying to contradict everyone's advice, which by the way is good advice and standard, at least to professionals.

    He said he worked in a studio but by the sounds of it the only studio he has been in is a tanning studio
  33. avatar Pete
    [quote:9520f398d5="chrisjedijane"]Do we know what kind of amp die the flu is looking yet? If not, this thread is pointless.[/quote:9520f398d5]

    Hence my earlier "how long is a piece of string" comment.

    But going on his past history I erred on the side of higher gain.
  34. avatar die the flu
    I deliberately wasn't too specific as I wanted to see what suggestions came forth from the ether.

    It'll be mainly for gigging with [url]http://www.myspace.com/blackstylus[/url], which is a kind of eclectic sound, so I need a good amp, and it's a two-piece so a half stack is probably pretty pointless.

    I think the Engl was a good suggestion, I hadn't thought of it and it'll suit the purpose well.

    I'm leaning towards this:

    [url]http://www.thomann.de/gb/engl_screamer_50_roehrencombo_e330.htm[/url]

    But may give the Vox a try too..
  35. avatar chrisjedijane
    The screamer 50's are great - I know they're normally viewed as a "metal" amp, but andy from Jedi Jane used one with a 1x12 and a Jazzmaster and it sounded great - the clean channel was great, and the drive was pretty nice too on lower gain settings.
  36. avatar oxo
    [quote:d4092c8a3e="die the flu"]I deliberately wasn't too specific as I wanted to see what suggestions came forth from the ether.

    It'll be mainly for gigging with [url]http://www.myspace.com/blackstylus[/url], which is a kind of eclectic sound, so I need a good amp, and it's a two-piece so a half stack is probably pretty pointless.

    I think the Engl was a good suggestion, I hadn't thought of it and it'll suit the purpose well.

    I'm leaning towards this:
    [url]http://www.thomann.de/gb/engl_screamer_50_roehrencombo_e330.htm[/url]

    But may give the Vox a try too..[/quote:d4092c8a3e] 8)HAVE YOU TRIED THE PEAVEY JSX??? 8)