I need to know more local emo, post-emo, screamo, and that. I'm sure there's lots of bands out there I don't know about. Here's my list of current local bands in this vein that are making me happy. Add to it!
dear catastrophe, the fairytale ending, killing april, extrovert, kelwan, the mascara story, rescue the astronauts, paper tank, delaying tactics, emily, 9 lies, soldiers take half, exit evangeline, kaleidascope^, taking vegas for millions, real friends break chairs, finding scarlet, cry freedom please, hyencide, ego, steer clear (literally amazing), the drama escort
I've probably missed some, and some are from the South. By the way if you're on the list and you don't like the 'emo or similiar' tag: boo hoo.
Lol. I played with tree in my old band. If anything, they're the opposite of emo. :-D
Post-emo evolved from emo in the mid-90's or thereabouts. It's more soft vocally with more quiet guitars and that. The Promise Ring, Sunny Day Real Estate, Elliot, Boy's Life, Get Up Kids and so on are post-emo (or post-emo indie).
(Edited because I wanted to add that post-emo indie is different from post-emo hardcore, but then the emo family tree is a forest. http://www.fourfa.com for a mostly accurate idea.)
Ach sh1te Rog, that's a schoolboy error, now you're gonna have some "punk" come on and lecture you in great detail that "Real" "Emo" developed in the post-punk, hardcore, post-bogcore, pre-spankcore, antediluvian fartcore wasteland in Baines, Ohio, December 14th 1981, when the lead singer of The Twilight Fairies stubbed his toe on a Big Muff and [i:7665e7dcb6]"actually cried, right there on stage"[/i:7665e7dcb6]
[quote:1604a48ddf="fastfude"]Surely Sunny Day Real Estate, having formed in 92, are pre-emo (or "Premo")?[/quote:1604a48ddf]
Well if it started with Rites OF Spring / Faith / Embrace, then they are Post Emo since all these bands had split by then.
the first time I ever heard the term "emo" was when Baron (then of the dangerfields) described my then band Icarus as being "emo". This mustve been about 2000/2001. Whenever I asked him what "emo" meant the definition he gave me (something along the lines of "faggy, soft punk music about love) appealed to me despite the disdain that Baron had delivered his explanation with.
I asked him for some names of emo bands and from this conversation I discovered Jimmy Eat World and subsequently lots of other great bands.
[quote:9cb98384e7]Ach sh1te Rog, that's a schoolboy error, now you're gonna have some "punk" come on and lecture you in great detail that "Real" "Emo" developed in the post-punk, hardcore, post-bogcore, pre-spankcore, antediluvian fartcore wasteland in Baines, Ohio, December 14th 1981, when the lead singer of The Twilight Fairies stubbed his toe on a Big Muff and "actually cried, right there on stage" [/quote:9cb98384e7]
In case anyone is wondering by the way. This is actually true. But I was there, and I know first hand it wasn't just the singer who cried. We all did too. :-D
On another point. I think it's an exposure thing. I was lucky (or unlucky if you like) enough, to have a close friend in Mexico from the late-90's until now, who trades mixtapes or cds with me on a regular basis. So I get exposed to a LOT of stuff before it would be widely known over here. Not that I'm unique, but I can remember that absolutely no-one had a clue what I was banging on about in the late 90's when I mentioned emo. Now most people, ten years later, at least would have heard of it.
I guess I should throw my band into this mix. It's strange to think that rock bands call themselves rock, funk bands call themselves funk, but [i:24c76bba64]emo[/i:24c76bba64] bands tend to shy away (pardon the pun) from the term.
I would describe us as Alt Punk. or the gay baby of Hot Water Music and Thursday. :-D
I've found my band being called 'emo' simply down to fashion and hairstyles. We played a gig in Cork 2 years ago, our first down there as part of a BOTB and the crowd of metallers at the front started chanting 'EMO! EMO! EMO!' before we'd even played a note. That came down simply to us having fringes.
I know what people mean about bands shying away from the term 'emo'. I'm not though. I listen to a lot of different music including emo bands and emo music but my band [Steer Clear] are not emo. We grew up listening to pop punk and punk rock and we draw influence from that. But because of the way we dress people make assumptions. It's easy to pin that label on bands for this reason and maybe in turn bands who dress in a certain way or look a certain way 'shy' away from that term because simply they want their music to be taken seriously and not dimissingly put into some pigeon hole that could potentially close off a lot of their potential audience who, in turn, are confused about the whole thing themselves.
But anyways, my point being people seem to generalise a lot on the fashion side of things, like im sure if ppl didn't like metal and 3 dudes with long hair and iron maidon t shirts got on stage someone would automatically think ' metallers!' but then they could start playing some real chilled out indie stuff. It's preconceptions and assumptions and people closing their minds. Either that, or their just confused. Kinda like I am now.
Yeah, it's definitely a grey area but hopefully this covers one aspect of why bands shy away and why people objectively assume and get confused. That's my opinion anyways.
Daveits solo stuff is great. 'Her Looks Will Run Out' is one of my favourite songs. Evar.
p0d: Don't fear the emo. I really dig your band, a hell of a lot. I don't necessarily think the label matters. It's perception. To be fair, and accurate, your band really isn't emo at all, in the traditional meaning of the word. It does however share a lot of common elements with third wave post-emo stuff, and maybe it's lazy, but I'd rather say 'this cool emo band' than 'this cool pop-punk band that has a similiar sound to some mid-90's bands that I liked mixed in with some similiar modern ideas' and then list five bands to compare. I suppose you could deny genres altogether, and just say 'this cool band' but people tend to want to categorise and put things in some sort of box. If you're going to have fringes and play pop-punk nowadays be prepared for the comparison.
To me it's a blanket label like metal or punk. I don't tend to get too hung up on the intricacies. It is silly in a way, since calling it emo sort of suggests that other punk and hardcore music isn't 'emotional', but people like genres. So do I. They're like little communities, and the more obscure and unknown the genre the bigger the sense of community.
Create your own genre, is my belief. If you want to play original music you might need to.
[quote:fb0459979a="die the flu"]I operate on the (admittedly broad) rule of thumb that if a band sound like I expect them to from how they dress, then I'm not gonna be generally impressed by their music.[/quote:fb0459979a]
That needs re-thought. Part of what helps when you see a band for the first time is how they appear.
You can't expect every band to dress in a new way.
Clothes are limited.
I mean if you're into metallica, it's hardly out of the question that you might wear a metallica shirt, and that you'll play music that resembles metal. Or if you like disco, you might wear a white tuxedo and fishbowl shoes.
[quote:854c5a1cba="die the flu"]Yes, and if they "appear" to have nabbed both their dress sense and musical ideas from an existing template then my interest tends to wilt rather quickly.[/quote:854c5a1cba]
"Those who do not want to imitate anything, produce nothing."
I agree with the imitation thing. I think most new creations are failed attempts to imitate something that went before. I know some of my best stuff is written when I'm trying (and failing) to figure out a song I really love, and end up instead creating something new.