1. avatar captain a
    a few years, or was it seconds ago there was emo, it was everywhere and i hated it, and as far as i could tell it hated me. i liked some grunge, and some and funny and diverse music, so i was old and outdated, and emo dressed cool and hung around places making me feel awkward, dodging skateboards yet doing my best to eavesdrop. I could never hear those kids nor figure out what they talked about while being emo, dammit. i dressed, and still do dress like an eejit, so emo could never love me anyways, even if it took its pink and purple weeping eyes off its shoes for long enough to try, it wouldn't understand my dated ways and my optimistic 'CD' collection. now things have changed, i realised that emo no longer seems to hold the sway it once did over pointless over-emoting. how do i know this?? emo has reached Letterkenny; and reaching Letterkenny is the death knell for any musical or cultural movement. at the first glance of a tear drawn on some gender unspecific kids cheek, parading down main st. wearing fat daddy's jeans and mommy's leathers i knew it was over for emo. this is fine, i thought, no more emo. Sesame st characters can have their credibility back now, and stop being made into taxidermy rucksacks. but then i grew sad, almost became emo. like the hunter becoming the hunted, emo was everything i hated about music and the rich bastard kids that went with it, and now its fading away, as the rich bastard children realise they've consumed music, and its time to move on to bigger and more transient and consumable things, they leave us emo haters without a scapegoat. with emo i knew what i hated, i knew where to find it, what it looked like and how to avoid it.

    come back emo, i miss you.
  2. avatar T Entertainment
    [img:134cbd17b1]http://www.sugar-gliders.com/images/store/worms.jpg[/img:134cbd17b1]





























    :D
  3. avatar unplugged
    :lol:
  4. avatar captain a
    [quote:45b4dc5474]seriously, its nothing personal, i've just grown to resent that so called beat up whore of a joke and the limp wristedness and frequency with which it is ejaculated onto my screen.[/quote:45b4dc5474]

    in your case chris T, it is personal. hows your left foot these days anyways?
  5. avatar Danny McCormack
    Emo isn't even a genre of music really. Just a sad excuse for people to dye their hair black.
  6. avatar thefatson
    Emo kids are just this geneations rock kids.
    It isn;t a movement, its just a label given to rock kids who haven;t picked a subgenre to be like metallers or punks.

    The kids who call themselves emo are really just stupid.

    If I was young today I;d probably be called emo, and I would resent it greatly.
    Emo bashing is for morons who are too afraid to wear makeup during the only time of their life that it will probably help them score.
  7. avatar Joeplaysthedrums
    zing!
  8. avatar Russ
    EMO? Wa? Never heard of it till now.

    It just looks like kids getting too much money from Mum and Dad for silly hair-do's off MTV.

    At least Grunge had a bit of substance to it...

    Decent bands for a start.
  9. avatar Nephilim
    I walked down Main Street yesterday and saw nowt of the type. Although admitedly it's the first time I've been home in about 5 months.

    Either way, I find it quite tragic that so many people go out of their way to diss "emos". Really now, we've heard it all before and it's just as pathetically bigotted now as it was then.

    "Emo" these days is style before substance and in relation to "emo music" (I invert that because everyone has their own interpretation) that may very well be held as a valid point of contempt, but fuck it the music industry today is style before substance 90% of the time.

    But to sit and criticise at length the dress sense of fans of that genre of music is...old, and lets face it; not that funny anymore.
  10. avatar 3cigarettes
    [quote:eab0f69892="thefatson"]Emo kids are just this geneations rock kids.
    It isn;t a movement, its just a label given to rock kids who haven;t picked a subgenre to be like metallers or punks.

    The kids who call themselves emo are really just stupid.

    If I was young today I;d probably be called emo, and I would resent it greatly.
    Emo bashing is for morons who are too afraid to wear makeup during the only time of their life that it will probably help them score.[/quote:eab0f69892]

    Game, set and match The Fatson!
  11. avatar barrypeak
    yep!
    i'm totally with the fatson here too.
    remember letterkenny had a scene for a while? bands like tsunami and the voodoo queens played in some little pub.
  12. avatar thefatson
    Yeo, I'm right for once, get in!
  13. avatar rentaghost
    I prefer Kingmob's can of worms - its more graphic
  14. avatar Pete
    [quote:b97d8c497e="Nephilim"]the music industry today is style before substance 90% of the time.[/quote:b97d8c497e]

    Music as an industry has [i:b97d8c497e]always [/i:b97d8c497e]been about style before substance. People tend to remember the good stuff and forget the nonsense when looking back to the "better times".
  15. avatar Ratoot
    [quote:8c211084ee]a few years, or was it seconds ago there was emo, it was everywhere and i hated it, and as far as i could tell it hated me. i liked some grunge, and some and funny and diverse music, so i was old and outdated, and emo dressed cool and hung around places making me feel awkward, dodging skateboards yet doing my best to eavesdrop. I could never hear those kids nor figure out what they talked about while being emo, dammit. i dressed, and still do dress like an eejit, so emo could never love me anyways, even if it took its pink and purple weeping eyes off its shoes for long enough to try, it wouldn't understand my dated ways and my optimistic 'CD' collection. now things have changed, i realised that emo no longer seems to hold the sway it once did over pointless over-emoting. how do i know this?? emo has reached Letterkenny; and reaching Letterkenny is the death knell for any musical or cultural movement. at the first glance of a tear drawn on some gender unspecific kids cheek, parading down main st. wearing fat daddy's jeans and mommy's leathers i knew it was over for emo. this is fine, i thought, no more emo. Sesame st characters can have their credibility back now, and stop being made into taxidermy rucksacks. but then i grew sad, almost became emo. like the hunter becoming the hunted, emo was everything i hated about music and the rich bastard kids that went with it, and now its fading away, as the rich bastard children realise they've consumed music, and its time to move on to bigger and more transient and consumable things, they leave us emo haters without a scapegoat. with emo i knew what i hated, i knew where to find it, what it looked like and how to avoid it. [/quote:8c211084ee]


    BEST POST OF 2007.

    By a country mile.

    :lol:
  16. avatar nonlogic liam
    After watching that 7 ages of rock programme the other night (its theme was
    alternative rock) I want grunge back, minus all those rich bitches and
    rednecks in my school who liked it after it was trendy (I liked it before
    them therefore I was wayyyyyy cooler, or something). But yes, back on
    point, I really liked the grunge movement some great bands (and equally
    terrible bands - remember bush?) and it was fun. There was a friendly aura
    around grunge and grunge fans, until the above mentioned ass-holes jumped
    on the band wagon. I don't understand emo and I can't work out which bands
    are emo and which are not. Which leads me to the conclusion that the press
    and the record companies have placed a very wonky label on a bunch of
    bands, a label which doesn't really work. It seems that the only consistent
    thing about emo (or if we are to follow Eoghans post - was about emo)is the
    "dress sense" and "attitude" both of which are admittedly lame.
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  17. avatar Stevie Mac
    emo ain't what people think it is

    [url]http://www.fourfa.com/[/url]

    :roll:
  18. avatar nonlogic liam
    This better not be R.A.M gallery!
  19. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    [quote:560c11532d]Sesame st characters can have their credibility back now, and stop being made into taxidermy rucksacks.[/quote:560c11532d]

    :-D

    see also "Shaun The Sheep". I call these EMO Props.
  20. avatar eucrid eucrow
    Mac basically put an almost identical whinging bastard thread like this to bed a few months ago by saying:

    'As long as youth culture is actively irritating other people it is a good thing.'

    Which is true.

    In essence we have kids who are:
    Reclaiming public space.
    Enjoying themselves - through music no less.
    Not harming a single person as far as I can see.

    But you guys feel the need to constantly complain about them - sad and boring lads.
  21. avatar barrypeak
    i've said this very thing before on another thread recently.

    my mate willie put it best when the jesus and mary chain got big... "if one in a hundred of these kids goes on to buy a bitch magnet record, then job done".
  22. avatar nonlogic liam
    [quote:efa4eed698]Mac basically put an almost identical whinging bastard thread like this to bed a few months ago by saying:

    'As long as youth culture is actively irritating other people it is a good thing.'

    Which is true.

    In essence we have kids who are:
    Reclaiming public space.
    Enjoying themselves - through music no less.
    Not harming a single person as far as I can see.

    But you guys feel the need to constantly complain about them - sad and boring lads. [/quote:efa4eed698]

    I'm not complaining about them as such, I'd rather walk past a bunch of emo kids than a bunch of spides or cider filled punks.
  23. avatar thefatson
    I'd rather sexually abuse emo kids if I got to choose, they are all so cute.
  24. avatar I'mDead
    Does anyone remember 'Cure Dogs'?

    Or was it just a culchie Downpatrick thing?

    Yeah no harm, no foul either way as far as Emo kids are concerned.
  25. avatar tinpot anto
    I thought you guys (Liam and Eoghan) liked Eamo.

    I know he's a bit weird like, but he's a nice guy once you take the time to get to know him.
  26. avatar Ratoot
    I'm sorry Anto, I just think they've turned a blind eye to his obvious sexual perversion for just too long.

    I mean that cave man suit at the masons gig was just despicable!

    I just don't think you should have dragged this onto Fastfude guys, there's a time and a place:

    2:30am in the abandoned bogs under 'Shaft'sbury square on any given thursday night.
  27. avatar supershedseven
    Right, what i cant understand is this..

    Why do people get so annoyed about what social class or 'type' of people who are into the same music as them???? I mean why does it matter if so called 'rich' kids hang about and do what they do? why does it bother people what they wear or what if they listen to grunge? their ears are no different to anyone else, if they are only into it cause its 'trendy' then let them.

    The people i can't stand are folk who would wanna keep their little music interest among themselves so they can scrath their little beards and release everything on Squirrel records. Ta feck with that mess.
  28. avatar nonlogic liam
    [quote:1cff1c6614]I thought you guys (Liam and Eoghan) liked Eamo.

    I know he's a bit weird like, but he's a nice guy once you take the time to get to know him. [/quote:1cff1c6614]

    Try living with him! It's like living with a dog - the noise, the mess, the smell. Er, I mean, yeah, he's a great guy.
  29. avatar Ratoot
    [quote:ddad82305f]why does it matter if so called 'rich' kids hang about and do what they do? why does it bother people what they wear or what if they listen to grunge?[/quote:ddad82305f]

    Coz they're all W*NKERS!

    :lol:
  30. avatar supershedseven
    bit like you then :lol:
  31. avatar nonlogic liam
    [quote:ccf84ba4fa]Right, what i cant understand is this..

    Why do people get so annoyed about what social class or 'type' of people who are into the same music as them???? I mean why does it matter if so called 'rich' kids hang about and do what they do? why does it bother people what they wear or what if they listen to grunge? their ears are no different to anyone else, if they are only into it cause its 'trendy' then let them.

    The people i can't stand are folk who would wanna keep their little music interest among themselves so they can scrath their little beards and release everything on Squirrel records. Ta feck with that mess. [/quote:ccf84ba4fa]

    Let me guess, your a confused rich kid into emo? And you despise poor kids who can't afford the latest emo fashions?
  32. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    Emo is ballet for morons! :-D
  33. avatar supershedseven
    Yes :lol:
  34. avatar Ratoot
    By the laws of mathematics:

    if Emo = W*ank

    then be being a w*nker would mean me being Emo.

    The closest thing I get to emo is the fancy hairstyles I can make with my ginger pubes while in the f*ckin shower.

    Nigh Fack aff!
  35. avatar supershedseven
    :roll:
  36. avatar thefatson
    I was born relatively poor and once had a real chip on my shoulder about rich kids, I was just raging that they would get a Stingray for Christmas and I'd get a Tanglewood etc.

    You have to realise it's no ones fault where you are born, if my parents were loaded I'd totally rip the arse clean out of it so fair play to rich kids, the bastards.

    I'm totally jealous of those rich young emo kids emoing it up with each other :D
    I think this whole thing comes down to jealousy really.
  37. avatar supershedseven
    Be fecking happy you got anything at all !!!!
  38. avatar greensleevesisgod
    yeah, there's nothing wrong with emo kids. I think most of you just miss hanging out about town doing bugger all. No-one is stopping you. You can still be young and free! just send £3 via paypal to crispypuddin@hotmail.com thanks.
  39. avatar sheriffjohnstone
    When you(those slaggin) refer to Emo do you have specific bands in mind?
    Just interested.
  40. avatar JTM
    I'd like to apologise to the girl on the Dublin Road last night who asked if I got razed for wearing a </3 t-shirt, and I then wandered off, giving her the fingers, when she suggested people might think it was "emo", to which I took offense.

    In retrospect yes it probably does seem a bit emo to wear that sort of thing, it was the first time I wore that shirt, although my reaction was more "angry semi-drunk arsehole" than "emo" I'm too old to be emo, I'm more of a depressed indie wannabe who wears what he likes despite having no fashion sense.



    Anyway thankyou for liking my shirt and I apologise.


    Anyway on the discussion, Emo's a pretty broad label now - I think it's been corrupted from its original meaning, like "punk". I think originally bands like Dashboard Confessional and Saves The Day were considered emo.
  41. avatar my-angel-rocks
    I thought it was a geek shirt if it was you that I saw wearing it at the boathouse gig...
  42. avatar JTM
    [quote:972ae1600a="my-angel-rocks"]I thought it was a geek shirt if it was you that I saw wearing it at the boathouse gig...[/quote:972ae1600a]

    Yes it was me. And I'm definitely more of a geek than an emo, for whatever that's worth.
  43. avatar Stevie Mac
    "</3" is where geek & emo collide. Atom & His Package and Reggie & The Full Effect also fit this description. And so do I, if I'm being truthful.
  44. avatar babyknowsbest
    Leader of the Emoticons
    [img:13a1347cfe]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/raoul24hrs/emoticon.jpg[/img:13a1347cfe]
  45. avatar captain a
    [quote:8a8960a973="barrypeak"]i've said this very thing before on another thread recently.

    my mate willie put it best when the jesus and mary chain got big... "if one in a hundred of these kids goes on to buy a bitch magnet record, then job done".[/quote:8a8960a973]


    gold.
  46. avatar whosbainejakey
    Emo: Listen to Rites of Spring, taxi/ambulance/hearse for the rest.

    Grunge was pretty much bobbins apart from Nirvana, Mudhoney (and some of Green River), Tad, L7, bits of Soundgarden, the first two Smashing Pumpkins albums and Hole's Pretty on The Inside and Live Through This. Were Babes in Toyland grunge? I'll have them too then. And Screaming Trees mid-late period. Er, and Up In It by Afghan Whigs. Oh, and Dinosaur's 90's output too.

    Ok, so there was actually a lot of good stuff - but most of it was ignored in favour of Pearl Jam (who I still kind of like, especially Vs.) Alice in Chains and Stone Temple Bollocks.
  47. avatar racecarisracecarbackwards
    [quote:3c9a3a6c49="Ratoot"][quote:3c9a3a6c49]why does it matter if so called 'rich' kids hang about and do what they do? why does it bother people what they wear or what if they listen to grunge?[/quote:3c9a3a6c49]

    Coz they're all W*NKERS!

    :lol:[/quote:3c9a3a6c49]

    I think you're actually obsessed with "Emo's" Ratoot, you seem to talk about them an awful lot!

    Calling them wa*kers is the same narrow mindedness as spides calling people who are into rock "gathics" or "hippie bawstards". So by saying they're all w*nkers you're in effect, stooping to the level of that of a smick to be honest.
  48. avatar dave_belfast
    alot of people mistake emo with indie and that annoys me.
  49. avatar Nephilim
    As far as I'm concerned Grunge is/was as muddles a musical genre as emo is now.

    I tend to believe that the very first album released by any of the so called "grunge" bands (so I'm talking Bleach, Louder Than Love etc) are actually the only "grunge" albums released by the respective "grunge" bands.

    There's not a fucking hope in hell that Nevermind is a grunge album...
  50. avatar Ratoot
    [quote:ef9d693121]stooping to the level of that of a smick to be honest.[/quote:ef9d693121]

    I am a smick ya feckin eejit!

    Yousens are all hippys!

    :lol:



    -----

    For everyones information when this: :lol: appears in a post of mine it means i'm having a laugh. So relax.

    Also, i think I'm about to turn my attention to New Ravers.

    They're all w*nkers!
  51. avatar sheriffjohnstone
    I'm aware of Rites of Spring, Beefeater, Embrace etc. I'm aware of its origins.I like the music. I don't get the term. Regardless of this I'm more interested in what people think they're slagging when they say "emo wankers" etc. I want to know if they have specific bands in mind and if so which?
  52. avatar thehellfireclub
    Its the CV generation.
    I blame myspace.
  53. avatar spirit of division
    [quote:6658dc90a3]I'm aware of Rites of Spring, Beefeater, Embrace etc. I'm aware of its origins.I like the music. I don't get the term. Regardless of this I'm more interested in what people think they're slagging when they say "emo " etc. I want to know if they have specific bands in mind and if so which?[/quote:6658dc90a3]

    I think most people think of "emo kiods" today as those who listen to my chemical romance and / or dress in a particular fashion.

    It's origins are ace and there are many bands following in the same vein today and would still get refered to as emo...though I reckon most kids at the city hall would be like, "wha? eh?" I think Mr. Picotto coined the phrase and that he now hates it? I could be wrong though.
  54. avatar sheriffjohnstone
    [quote:f8af18aa65="spirit of division"][quote:f8af18aa65]I'm aware of Rites of Spring, Beefeater, Embrace etc. I'm aware of its origins.I like the music. I don't get the term. Regardless of this I'm more interested in what people think they're slagging when they say "emo " etc. I want to know if they have specific bands in mind and if so which?[/quote:f8af18aa65]

    I think most people think of "emo kiods" today as those who listen to my chemical romance and / or dress in a particular fashion.

    It's origins are ace and there are many bands following in the same vein today and would still get refered to as emo...though I reckon most kids at the city hall would be like, "wha? eh?" I think Mr. Picotto coined the phrase and that he now hates it? I could be wrong though.[/quote:f8af18aa65]

    Dead right.Mr Picotto says
    I've never recognized 'emo' as a genre of music. I always thought it was the most retarded term ever. I know there is this generic commonplace that every band that gets labeled with that term hates it. They feel scandalized by it. But honestly, I just thought that all the bands I played in were punk rock bands. The reason I think it's so stupid is that - what, like the Bad Brains weren't emotional? What - they were robots or something? It just doesn't make any sense to me."
  55. avatar Steven Dedalus
    I think you're right about that. I'm pretty sure Guy Piccotto did coin the term, but with regards to him hating it, can you blame him?

    Imagine you were in a band as good as Rites of Spring, and everything you worked to build eventually became stuff like My Chemical Romance or FUneral for a Friend? I know neither of those bands are technically emo, but I think that's what people think of when you hear the term (I know I certainly do).

    I just think it's horrible that you can draw a direct line from stuff like Rites of Spring and Husker Du to stuff like that.


    But the kids have got to be into something, I suppose. And echoing an earlier comment, if somone goes out and buys a Fugazi album or something, I guess it's all worthwhile.
  56. avatar spirit of division
    [quote:bce18486ce] if somone goes out and buys a Fugazi album or something, I guess it's all worthwhile.[/quote:bce18486ce]

    Pretty much. I used to get annoyed at mtvmo, but then again I started out listening to shite and the labels that were put on stuff probably pushed me to where I am now. Eep :/
  57. avatar David McLaughlin
    A lot of the stuff that's now classed as emo is really just pop music with different clothes on. I can't really imagine a lot of the people into the likes of My Chemical Romance appreciating Rites Of Spring. There might technically be a lineage but musically, there's absolutely nothing in common. So in that regard, I dunno how much use it'll be them going out buying these records.
  58. avatar spirit of division
    It's a fashion....tastes progress as people get older. I used to listen to Metallica, Megadeth to Greenday and whtever was big in Kerrang non stop until I got a hold of a Union 13 tape ad some Minor Threat records! Awesome!
  59. avatar thecomeons_2
    hasn't the term "emo" been about for years? it seems to refer to the more goth end of alternative rock these days, but i don't think that was always the case.
  60. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    fook I love these threads
  61. avatar Stevie Mac
    When I co-hosted the emo show on Queen's Radio, I vainly tried to clear up this misunderstanding with a two-part History of Emo special. I guess no-one tuned in.

    The tracklisting for anyone interested was:

    Minor Threat - Straight Edge (Dischord)
    Husker Du - The Biggest Lie (SST)
    Embrace - Do Not Consider Yourself Free (Dischord)
    Rites of Spring - Other Way Around (Dischord)
    Moss Icon - Guatemala (Vermiform)
    Jawbreaker - Condition Oakland (Shredder)
    Fugazi - Blueprint (Dischord)
    Samiam - Clean (live) (Your Choice)
    Sunny Day Real Estate - Seven (Sub Pop)
    Quicksand - Landing Spring (Island)
    Mineral - Parking Lot (Crank)
    Texas is the Reason - Nickel Wound (Revelation)
    Matthew Good - She's Got a New Disguise (Darktown)
    Jimmy Eat World - Rockstar (Capitol)
    Hot Water Music - Just Don't Say You Lost It (Doghouse)
    The Promise Ring - Why Did We Ever Meet (Jade Tree)
    The Get Up Kids - Action and Action (Vagrant)
    Elliot - Dying Midwestern (Revelation)
    Piebald - They Don't Understand us at the Academy (Big Wheel Recreation)
    Q and Not U - Meet Me in the Pocket (Different Damage)
    Silverstein - The Weak and The Wounded (Another Victory)

    Not completely representitive I know, but hey, I tried.
  62. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    i prefer Screamo
  63. avatar T Entertainment
    I prefer

    [img:bb39b153b8]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41740000/jpg/_41740370_emu_203.jpg[/img:bb39b153b8]
  64. avatar Steven Dedalus
    That tracklisting is a good guide to it, I think. But I have two observations about it:

    1. We we just throw about the word 'emo' I daresay that few of those bands are the ones that come to mind (even though they should), but instead one of the myriad no-mark bandwagon juumpers springs to our attention. If you ask an emo-kid what they're into, you'd probab;y be lucky if they even mentioned Jimmy Eat World.

    2. I stopped lisetning after Sunny Day Real Estate (although Q and not U are/were amazing.)
  65. avatar JTM
    [quote:6f52a80172="babyknowsbest"]Leader of the Emoticons
    [/quote:6f52a80172]

    :lol:

    Bet he doesn't listen to Optimus Rhyme...
  66. avatar The enfant terrible
    Emo girls suck, they all act like they're up for it then spend all night talking about their moms (even if they aren't american), and showing you where they tried to slit their wrists (on the wrong side of their arms).
  67. avatar I'mDead
    I heard that Emo bassists use plectrums and Grunge bassists use their fingers.
  68. avatar kingmob
    [quote:26d7d0d4ca="The enfant terrible"]Emo girls suck, they all act like they're up for it then spend all night talking about their moms (even if they aren't american), and showing you where they tried to slit their wrists (on the wrong side of their arms).[/quote:26d7d0d4ca]

    Any chance of having a Quote of the Week facility on the new Fastfude beta :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :shock:
  69. avatar fastfude
    actually yes! the post with the most good/bad votes perhaps?
  70. avatar Stevie Mac
    [quote:47afd3da55="Steven Dedalus"]That tracklisting is a good guide to it, I think. But I have two observations about it:

    1. We we just throw about the word 'emo' I daresay that few of those bands are the ones that come to mind (even though they should), but instead one of the myriad no-mark bandwagon juumpers springs to our attention. If you ask an emo-kid what they're into, you'd probab;y be lucky if they even mentioned Jimmy Eat World.

    2. I stopped lisetning after Sunny Day Real Estate (although Q and not U are/were amazing.)[/quote:47afd3da55]


    1) The trouble with the word and the negative connotation it has today is that like shifting sands it has subtlely altered over time until the originators can't recognize what has come out the other end and so disassociate themselves from the label. Thus the identifer has been misappropriated and today people who get called emo don't know it's origins, and people who do like 'old-skool' emo don't even want to use the word (the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28music%29]wiki[/url] article on it is actually quite explanatory). I still refer to the whole gamut as 'emo' because it's just easier that way.

    2) [i:47afd3da55]Despite[/i:47afd3da55] the above, there's still some great post '95 stuff out there. I mean Hot Water Music's 'Caution' is one of my definite faves and it was out in 2002.
  71. avatar greensleevesisgod
    [quote:6bd26d483a="T Entertainment"]I prefer

    [img:6bd26d483a]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41740000/jpg/_41740370_emu_203.jpg[/img:6bd26d483a][/quote:6bd26d483a]

    I'll see your EMU and raise you:

    [img:6bd26d483a]http://www.hammond-organ.com/Artist/image_directory/ELP_B_29Acrop_hammond.JPG[/img:6bd26d483a]
  72. avatar thecomeons_2
    [quote:f073e01f74="I'mDead"]I heard that Emo bassists use plectrums and Grunge bassists use their fingers.[/quote:f073e01f74]
    i always thought sid was emo.
  73. avatar Shane
    I don't like emu band names - "Days In December", "The Vehicle Birth", "The Juliana Theory". I mean for God's sake FU@K OFF!
  74. avatar palrub
    Blood Red Romance whilst Suffocating Me Dry


    foreshame, it's just a genre. Shi+-hop is the real movement, those bast@rds
  75. avatar Bobphoenix
    Kids are taking an interest in music again, that's a cool thing. Back in my day (not that long ago!) it was one grunger/rocker etc for about 5 spides. These kids today could be dressing like Willie Nelson and I'd still respect them for having an interest. Okay, maybe respect is too strong a word.

    All I'm saying is that just cause these kids dress like Boy George isn't a reason to hate them...It's funny, but isn't a reason to hate them!
  76. avatar Shane
    Kids never [i:87ee021627]stopped[/i:87ee021627] taking an interest in music. It's what's readily available to their ears that's the scary part. With grunge it was stick a checked shirt and sh!t jeans on and go out. With Emo it's lipstick, powder 'n paint, and the appropriate footwear and the correct necklaces and the "daddy can you pick me up later"? and the I'm so misunderstood.... Maybe I just think grunge is easier cause all I actually had (and still only have to this very day is) a checked shirt and sh!t jeans - and an aversion to barbers....
  77. avatar captain a
    [img:19c4c67aee]http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb29/angelelectrician/imag0056.jpg[/img:19c4c67aee]
  78. avatar Sparky
    I never saw why people slagged 'Emos' off. So what? They do mad things to their hair and listen to music that isn't everyones cup of tea? When has that ever happened in music history. Oh yeah, that's right. Since forever. Who cares. I don't like the whole emo thing personally, but there has to be other things that deserve being complained about. Its a phase. It will fall out of favour like all the others.
  79. avatar Pioneers007
    Really I think emo boils down to bands with straightened hair. The label can actually send a bands career slightly off course.

    The best example of that IMO is Funeral for a Friend, who basically dropped themselves in the shit by having an emo image (and name) from early in their career, and so despite some of their early music being some pretty awesome stuff, people immediately labelled them emo and there is a huge huge amount of people who hate them immediately, since they hate emo.

    They then tried to escape that label (cut their hair, dressed like normal people), which dropped them in even more shit, as many "emo" fans stopped liking them, but the name was out and labelled emo so it's hard as fuck for them to gain fans among the emo hating majority. (It didn't help that their 3rd album was a boring pop rock album which not many people, emo or otherwise liked... but listening to their new tracks on myspace, their next album will be verrryyy good).

    Bands like MCR however play off the label and practically every emo label accepting kid loves them. They're shit, though.
  80. avatar remedy malahide
    "The best example of that IMO is Funeral for a Friend, who basically dropped themselves in the shit by having an emo image (and name) from early in their career, and so despite some of their early music being some pretty awesome stuff, people immediately labelled them emo and there is a huge huge amount of people who hate them immediately, since they hate emo."

    They were shit from the offset, and no haircut/fashion change could remedy that failing.
  81. avatar Steven Dedalus
    Many years ago, I used to manage a small independant record store in Scotland, and was stuck in the position of selling tickets for a Funeral for a Friend concert when they were at the height of their 'fame'.

    My over-riding memory of the event (other than attending the concert on the guestlist to loudly heckle the band whilst slightly tipsy) was standing outside the shop, and overhearing a bunch of 'lads' looking at the gig poster and saying, "Funeral for a Friend? Funeral for a Fag, more like. Emo wankers."

    It was at that point that I realised that emo was no longer the genre that spawned Rights of Spring, et al.*


    *I'm just saying that for dramatic effect. I'd realised that some time before, because I'm so cool and cutting edge.**

    **No pun intended.
  82. avatar spirit of division
    Rites Of Spring are deadly! More of that...
  83. avatar nonlogic liam
    Oh, Peter...
  84. avatar spirit of division
    oh liam...

    Oh oh oh.
  85. avatar Andrew
    I think it's really patronising to say stuff like 'if one in every hundred of these haircutted wankers goes on to buy a Fugazi 10" then everything's hunky dory and we can go back to stroking each other's beards at obscure gigs safe in the knowledge that there's another generation of smug tits on the way'.

    [size=18:ba4b3b1600]WHO CARES WHAT ANYBODY ELSE LISTENS TO?[/size:ba4b3b1600]

    I like what I like and the rest of the world can spin itself into oblivion for all I give a shit. It's not as if my CD collection is going to catch fire if a bunch of kids with silly hair and armfuls of scabs are listening to My Chemical Whatever behind the 21st-century equivalent of a bike shed.

    I used to waste a lot of energy hating grunge, nu-metal, ska punk, noisecore, emo - you name it. Then one day I wised up. I plan to get on with living my life and listening to music I like rather than attempting to 'educate' teenagers who seem to be having a jolly enough time as it is.
  86. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote:47601ec18d="Andrew Griswold"]I think it's really patronising to say stuff like 'if one in every hundred of these haircutted wankers goes on to buy a Fugazi 10" then everything's hunky dory and we can go back to stroking each other's beards at obscure gigs safe in the knowledge that there's another generation of smug tits on the way'.

    [size=18:47601ec18d]WHO CARES WHAT ANYBODY ELSE LISTENS TO?[/size:47601ec18d]

    I like what I like and the rest of the world can spin itself into oblivion for all I give a shit. It's not as if my CD collection is going to catch fire if a bunch of kids with silly hair and armfuls of scabs are listening to My Chemical Whatever behind the 21st-century equivalent of a bike shed.

    I used to waste a lot of energy hating grunge, nu-metal, ska punk, noisecore, emo - you name it. Then one day I wised up. I plan to get on with living my life and listening to music I like rather than attempting to 'educate' teenagers who seem to be having a jolly enough time as it is.[/quote:47601ec18d]

    I agree, but it's metaphorically pulling pigtails to wind people up about music. Leave the wee emo lads alone just cos they're wearing make-up don't mean they're gay. and the girls don't like you unless you cut.
  87. avatar Baronation
    7 Years later I now wish I had agreed to Griswolds idea to make Dangerfields T Shirts with 'Nu-metal is for Pooves' on the back.
  88. avatar Daz
    "Ahhh, I don't like emo"
    "Ahhh, I don't like metal"
    "Ahhh, I don't like indie"
    "Ahhh, I don't like punk"

    You're a bunch of elitist fukkers. Does it really matter what genre a band belongs too as long as they produce good songs? Nobody is forcing you to listen to it.

    And all this whinging about emo kids with their make up and black hair... has music never had fashion associated with it? Tartan-trouser punks? Cordoroy Indie Kids?

    Shut up, the lot of you.
  89. avatar George W Best
    Uh! For the last time, a genre of music does not officially become a recognised as a music genre until someone makes RomCom film loosely based around it. Okay?
    It's the musical equivalent of being 'made'.
  90. avatar Steven Dedalus
    [quote:3794e6acac="Daz"]

    You're a bunch of elitist fukkers. Does it really matter what genre a band belongs too as long as they produce good songs? [/quote:3794e6acac]

    I love it when people say stuff like this. It ignores all notions of aesthetics, and the idea that we are more receptive to certain sounds than we are to others.

    No matter how 'good' a song by Metallica might be, I am still entirely predisposed to hate it because I absolutely hate the noise they make. So for me to appreciate a 'good' ssong, it would have to be aesthetically pleasing to me, ie. be of a genre I like.

    Don't get me wrong, I can listen to stuff like metal or emo, and be aware of what is good about it, but I'm personally never going to like it.
  91. avatar Daz
    That's like saying I don't like all crisps because I don't like Cheese and Onion. Metallica are not representative of all bands in the Metal genre. Far from it.

    To not like an individual band is fine, but to discount a whole genre of music based on your opinion of a couple of bands is pretty closed-minded.
  92. avatar tinpot anto
    Yes but if you don't like fried slices of crispy potato you're not going to really get on with any flavour of crisps.
  93. avatar fopp
    Maybe, but that wouldn't rule out other forms of crisps would it now, like bikers, onion rings, space invaders, those ghosty ones?
  94. avatar Gogs
    Those are corn snacks.
  95. avatar RockShandy
    Emo kids, emo quids, flids ba dids vLids marrids?

    Emo smo, punk rock tunes, everyone with iTunes.
    Do a rap, and base jump at the Lagan,
    OMG your posse be laggin'.

    Flimflimflim, jiminy quim!
  96. avatar tinpot anto
    Cornsnacks clearly represent cheesey false metal, especially Wotsits - cheesy AND corny AND incomprehensibly popular - wow they must be like Bon Jovi.

    Pringles are biscuits now though.

    Explain [b:74e3eab881]that[/b:74e3eab881] in your metal/crisps cross over analogy. What are Pringles then?

    NO POSTS EDIT...

    TPO then? - Once you pop you can't stop, and you know it. :lol:
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  97. avatar RockShandy
    The Tin Pot Operation.

    Something masquerading as something it isn't.

    In Pringles case, a crisp pretending to be a biscuit.
    In TPO's case, they are bad and pretending to be good.

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
  98. avatar George W Best
    I also think the TPO are like Pringles in that they are a bunch of tubes. Zing!
  99. avatar Daithi jasper
    So Pringles actually refers to the container now? I'm confused.
  100. avatar RockShandy
    Confusion is a surefire sign that you're an emo, like TPO.

    [img:651773d97c]http://www.fashionshanty.com/images/emo/girls-emo-haircut.jpg[/img:651773d97c]

    [i:651773d97c]TPO promo shoot, yesterday, in Anto's bedroom[/i:651773d97c]
  101. avatar Daithi jasper
    Stalker alert. :)
  102. avatar George W Best
    [quote:9ed5b1d539="Daithi jasper"]So Pringles actually refers to the container now? I'm confused.[/quote:9ed5b1d539]

    Come now Daithi don't be a craic-blocker, just enjoy the Zing!
  103. avatar tinpot anto
    Your ma's a tube.

    And I've been in her - there's your pringles analogy right there.

    Zing that on your [i:ec3fc2080e]comedy[/i:ec3fc2080e] blog :lol:
  104. avatar himynameissween
    pringles aren't crisps
    [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7490346.stm[/url]

    also, emo isnt the problem, scenesters are.
  105. avatar George W Best
    [quote:76d09bebe8="tinpot anto"]Your ma's a tube.
    [/quote:76d09bebe8]
    No she's not.

    [quote:76d09bebe8="tinpot anto"]And I've been in her [/quote:76d09bebe8]
    No you haven't.

    [quote:76d09bebe8="tinpot anto"]Zing that on your [i:76d09bebe8]comedy[/i:76d09bebe8] blog :lol:[/quote:76d09bebe8]
    Mind if I don't? It's just the sort of thin brained gobshites who still find 'Your Ma' jokes funny aren't really the target demographic of the site.
    And besides such people are usually too busy wetting themselves looking at pictures of cats in boxes or photos of aborted children with 'Fail' written on them in big letters, so there's no real point trying to reach out to them.

    BTW are digs about people's family members fair game now? It's just I have a few 'your daughter' jokes that I am positively dying to use!
  106. avatar nonlogic liam
    KILL EVERYTHING! NOW!!!
  107. avatar Daithi jasper
    Now I'm laughing.
  108. avatar tinpot anto
    Jesus, George calm yer baps there would ya big lad.

    I believe it's called "banter"

    I mean losing the rag at a "YER MA" joke, is very worrying. I am starting to feel a bit ashamed of picking on your site, as it's clear you love it dearly, and the world simply does not understand how funny you really are. I count myself amongst the foolish majority who's humour capability's don't extend to your level. Ask Liam there, he's intellectually superior, he'll get the joke.

    What's hilarious, is that if you decide against all that is sane and reasonable to insult my daughter, I will tell her, and she will slap you upside the head herself. :lol:
  109. avatar George W Best
    [quote:32f4ace0de="tinpot anto"]calm yer baps there would ya big lad.
    [/quote:32f4ace0de]
    Could some one translate please, I don't speak spide :(

    [quote:32f4ace0de="tinpot anto"]I am starting to feel a bit ashamed of picking on your site, as it's clear you love it dearly, and the world simply does not understand how funny you really are.[/quote:32f4ace0de]

    You've got undrstand Anto that the site is still only new, and you really should give it a chance to establish itself before you start damning it. If it's still going in years from now with little or no public recognition then by all means slag the life out of it.
    By the way, just how long have the Tin Pot Operation being going now?

    [quote:32f4ace0de="tinpot anto"] What's hilarious, is that if you decide against all that is sane and reasonable to insult my daughter, I will tell her, and she will slap you upside the head herself. :lol: [/quote:32f4ace0de]

    But TinPot Anto in order to do that you would have to first explain to her that you go on messageboards boasting of imaginary sexual encounters with people who are not her mother? Aren't you a bit worried this might make you look a bit of a knob in her eyes? Might be in your interests to keep that one to yourself.
    But I applaud you if that you are teaching your children to solve disagreements through violence, it really is the way forward!
  110. avatar RockShandy
    Someone make a cultural violence joke about Anto quickly.
  111. avatar tinpot anto
    Game over mate you really are a complete knob.

    And yes even my daughter understands what a "Yer Ma" joke is, and the difference between this and actually insulting someone's close family members. You clearly do not.
  112. avatar fopp
    [quote:bf8bc2f5a8="Gogs"]Those are corn snacks.[/quote:bf8bc2f5a8]


    Doritos too, methinks. But nobody really calls them corn snacks do they, but if you do then fair play for bucking the social convention.


    By the way I'm finding it hard to believe that this has ended up as complete abusive nonsense, when it was only ever about crisps and corn snacks, and possibly emo.
  113. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote:97a0b9d1a1="tinpot anto"]Game over mate you really are a complete knob.

    And yes even my daughter understands what a "Yer Ma" joke is, and the difference between this and actually insulting someone's close family members. You clearly do not.[/quote:97a0b9d1a1]

    In fairness I remember at school saying a yer ma joke to someone I thought could take it and what happened? They turned to me shyly and said:

    "You really hurt my feelings"

    in a voice which sounded as though they just wanted me to stop. I vomited on them and said "toughen up, or the world will destroy you".
  114. avatar tinpot anto
    Every body knows the correct response is

    "But my ma's dead *sniffs"

    to which the further retort is

    "I wondered what the smell was"

    etc. etc.


    But then it's clear that poor George was more taking it thick that I said his website was not funny. Hopefully with more of that feedback it, in a few years will establish itself as a popular humourous site on the internets. Good luck in that. :)
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  115. avatar remedy malahide
    As a kid I chucked my bmx at a guy for telling me a 'yer ma' joke. It was before I realised that 'yer ma' jokes were actually jokes and not insults directed specifically at [i:ea8a4585fb]my[/i:ea8a4585fb] ma. To be honest I'd probably still fuck a bike at him if he told me another one, but its totally dependant on the situation and the availability of a bmx. This topic is a bit old and boring, time to shut up shop on this one?
  116. avatar nonlogic liam
    Jokes about family members are the domain of rednecks, spides and the generally uncivilised. Likewise a person who is confronted with such "gibes" should not even dignify them with a response. Honour has no place in this sort of vile nonsense.

    [img:43b92c05d1]http://www.hobos8ns.com/Pics/Redneck.gif[/img:43b92c05d1]
  117. avatar Steven Dedalus
    Fuck you, cock sucking bastard wanks.

    All whiners with your whining....it's enough to make me boke my colon out. Get jobs and stop runing things for the working classes and the middle classes.

    Sorry, I just wanted in on the argument as well. I don't even know what the topic of this thread is.
  118. avatar George W Best
    Once again Liam's correct.
    For the record I hope people realise that my actions were not out of some misunderstanding of the nature of 'Your Ma' jokes but more born out of a desire to get the dickhead making them to shut the fuck up.

    And if certain dipshits continue to make statements about the rational behind my 'taking it thick' I may have to revert once more to making such uncivilised remarks.
  119. avatar Daithi jasper
    :lol:
  120. avatar himynameissween
    only because it makes me laugh:

    [img:b452dec94b]http://juracid.co.uk/gallery/forum/Vic_Bob_Handbags.jpg[/img:b452dec94b]

    :P

    i also have no idea whats going on....
  121. avatar tenrabbits
    Magic! Fastfude's been shite for ages so it's good to see another antocentric arguing thread!
  122. avatar Daithi jasper
    'Yer ma' is about the tamest thing theres ever been an argument on fastfude about. :)
  123. avatar Strong Reaction
    For once Liam actually speaks sense. It ain't political correctness gone mad, don't be upset if you approach a stranger outside the confines of the 'net, apply some 'ma schtick', and get a slap.
  124. avatar Pioneers007
    [quote:30ada36190="remedy malahide"]"The best example of that IMO is Funeral for a Friend, who basically dropped themselves in the shit by having an emo image (and name) from early in their career, and so despite some of their early music being some pretty awesome stuff, people immediately labelled them emo and there is a huge huge amount of people who hate them immediately, since they hate emo."

    They were shit from the offset, and no haircut/fashion change could remedy that failing.[/quote:30ada36190]

    failing all the way to the bank. plus theyre better than the boring shit you listen to.
  125. avatar Kristam Moffett
    fuck fuck fuck

    i just wasted nearly a fucking hour reading all nine pages on this topic. i was compiling a reply which was relevant (and not unlike griswolds) - but what happens? the boys get their handbags out, im not even going to give my opinion on the 'yer ma' thing, its retarded...

    last time i read into an actual topic on fastfude - dipshits
  126. avatar racecarisracecarbackwards
    Taking Back Sunday and Fall Out Boy are sweet....but I don't have a fringe :(
    Anyone can dress like, and listen to whatever the fuck they want to as far as i'm concerned....aslong as it isn't scooter.

    *opens up a can of worms/new thread about scooter*
  127. avatar tinpot anto
    Actually I'm sorry for dissing people's ma's now.

    Obviously our banter was not in "the place" where such things are acceptable.

    Also I was a wee bit harsh there, laying into George's Website. Sorry about that.
    Carry on.
  128. avatar remedy malahide
    [quote:9c4b9115ef="Pioneers007"][quote:9c4b9115ef="remedy malahide"]"The best example of that IMO is Funeral for a Friend, who basically dropped themselves in the shit by having an emo image (and name) from early in their career, and so despite some of their early music being some pretty awesome stuff, people immediately labelled them emo and there is a huge huge amount of people who hate them immediately, since they hate emo."

    They were shit from the offset, and no haircut/fashion change could remedy that failing.[/quote:9c4b9115ef]

    failing all the way to the bank. plus theyre better than the boring shit you listen to.[/quote:9c4b9115ef]

    Regardless of the boring shite that I may listen to, (which is irrelevant to the original statement that I made), and the fact that some people call them emo, I will still call them bollocks...all the way to the big bollocks bank...full of bollocks.
  129. avatar tenrabbits
    [quote:5c22e11f40="Kristam Moffett"]i was compiling a reply which was relevant (and not unlike griswolds)[/quote:5c22e11f40]

    Yes of course you were.. I guess it's just a shame this literary work of shakespearean splendour was so sadly derailed by the faceless bitching of a minority.

    Ah well.
  130. avatar Pioneers007
    [quote:2723f7bdd3="remedy malahide"][quote:2723f7bdd3="Pioneers007"][quote:2723f7bdd3="remedy malahide"]"The best example of that IMO is Funeral for a Friend, who basically dropped themselves in the shit by having an emo image (and name) from early in their career, and so despite some of their early music being some pretty awesome stuff, people immediately labelled them emo and there is a huge huge amount of people who hate them immediately, since they hate emo."

    They were shit from the offset, and no haircut/fashion change could remedy that failing.[/quote:2723f7bdd3]

    failing all the way to the bank. plus theyre better than the boring shit you listen to.[/quote:2723f7bdd3]

    Regardless of the boring shite that I may listen to, (which is irrelevant to the original statement that I made), and the fact that some people call them emo, I will still call them bollocks...all the way to the big bollocks bank...full of bollocks.[/quote:2723f7bdd3]

    as has been said by many, arguing matters of taste is pointless.

    the only bands considered by some to be emo i like are ffaf, alexisonfire, thursday, and the occasional silverstein song.