1. avatar Ronan Yakuza
    To look at they are very similar guitars, but there must be differences otherwise they would be the same guitar. So what are the main differences, without saying they're both shyte or they're both excellent, I'm looking for compare and contrast against eachother, which is the better of the two?

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  2. avatar Niall Harden
    i love them both.
    i was set on a jazzmaster, but cheap jaguar, what's difficult?!
    jazzmaster's pickups are "nicer" to my ears, and it has a less percussive sound. i prefer the jazzmaster, but i stuck new pickups in the jag and it's pretty class now. jaguar has 22 frets compared to JM's 21, and jag is a shorter scale length, ie there's less distance between the frets. the jag also has individual pickup selector swiches, and looks better :-)
  3. avatar gregoriavitch
    how does the jag-stang compare to them?
  4. avatar EPK
    They both belong on bonfires. Truly wretched guitars.
  5. avatar Niall Harden
    i resent that.
  6. avatar EPK
    Oh I know, but there's a reason why Jaguars and Jazzmasters died a death soon after their release, unlike the Strat and Tele.
    The reason being that in comparison they were crap, and since then they have only ever reared their head thru Indie cheap chic, starting with Elvis Costello in 77.
    Same with Jaguar basses.
  7. avatar Suki Monster
    they are two of the most horrible guitars i have ever played.yuck yuck yuck.
  8. avatar EPK
    See? Us real guitarists know best. I thank you, Mike.
  9. avatar Niall Harden
    in fairness i can barely play guitar.
    what would i know?
    i like the sounds on Sonic Youth and My Bloody Valentine records,
    so i wanted to play the same guitars.
  10. avatar mintcf
    Right. Explain. What is the deal with the anti-Jaguar feeling here? Exactly what kinda Jags have you played?
  11. avatar Niall Harden
    well.. having owned mine for quite a while now i can say that it doesn't play [i]amazingly[/i].. it has its quirks but having changed the pickups i really like the sound, feel and look of it, and can live with its niggly flaws. i'd love an american one..
  12. avatar mintcf
    See, that's what I'm talking about. Is it a Jap one you have? They're decent guitars, though I prefer the Jazzmaster. The American Jag's are a whole other story though. The '62 Reissue is by the far the best guitar I have ever played - no contest.
  13. avatar EPK
    The 62 original wasn't even that good.
    Y'see, when we're talking about Jags and Jazzmasters. I'm not talking about Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese, Mexican or Balinese. I'm talking original Fender issues.
    Niall, by changing the pickups, has made a good move.
    Now, he only neds to change the electrics, neck and body to make it a good guitar.
    :-)
  14. avatar mintcf
    That's just nonsense. You are so wrong!!
  15. avatar EPK
    Of course I am. I bow to your obvious superior knowledge and debating skills.
  16. avatar glzebub of four star
    i don't know what the trouble is here, get a telecaster and be done with it!
  17. avatar EPK
    He's not far off the truth, y'know.
  18. avatar ssmcmullan
    what about jagmasters??? the cheapo squire ones? any oppinoions on them?
  19. avatar EPK
    Yes. Bonfire material.
  20. avatar theafterglowonline
    All im going to say about the Fender Jaguar is that a 'friend' of mine cannot get it to sound good through a top notch fender twin amp. Nuff said.
  21. avatar andy CL14
    There I was about to post regarding my japanese Jaguar, and look, a whole thread about temperamental beasts.

    Mine is screwed.
    It's always been screwed and I was gonna sell it on Ebay tonight, but I thought I'd give it one last chance.


    I have to set it up on a weekly basis, I think I know what I'm doing, and when I've finished its ALMOST great to play, although even though I have glued the bridge screws in place, it always falls quickly out of tune above the 8th fret on the bottom E and A strings.

    Kind of renders in useless UNLESS you emulate MBV's reverse reverb or Sonic Youth's wailing feedback during a foppish indie chic moment.
    I need a tele.

    Is anyone having a bonfire or can anyone recommend a specialist to give it a good seeing to?
    Infact, if any one here can fix it up good, I'll reward your efforts snoopwardeously with cash.

    I really should have it looked at before I sell it because I do like that offset waist aesthetic.
  22. avatar Riffmaster Steve
    So, if you set the intonation, then play for a bit, the intonation goes off?

    Obvious things first - are you using a new set of (decent) strings? Are the two saddles obviously shuffing around and not staying where you put 'em, despite the glue?

    Failing those, I dunno really... probably not a loose neck, seeing as it's only two strings. Probably not your nut shuffling around, although you might wanna check that, just in case.

    Chances are that it's dodgy saddles. You can pick up replacement parts quite cheap - check out www.stewmac.com for bits'n'bobs...

    HTH,
    Steve.
  23. avatar Pete
    Get it looked at by a professional. By which I mean [i]not[/i] leaving it into Matchetts/Marcus etc. I have a couple of phone numbers for some top notch guys that I use if you want to mail me (address in profile).

    It will cost around £30 for a setup but my god man it will feel like a new guitar... well, a new Jaguar at least
    :p
  24. avatar we love records
    Andy,

    Have you ever checked the neck on the Jaguar? I'd recommend doing that as it's usually overlooked.
    It only takes a set of automotive feeler gauges (I have a set if you want) and an allen key. You do have to be pretty careful though that you don't over turn the truss rod.


    [url]http://www.mrgearhead.com/faq/othersetup.html[/url]

    That link will tell you the neck setup info.

    The Jaguar has a 7.25" radius neck.

    We checked all of ours recently and some were okay some weren't, in particular a les paul was considerably out!

    Also, as has already been said make sure you've got new strings as old strings are never a good place to start setting up a guitar.

    Alex

    [url]http://www.weloverecords.co.uk[/url]
  25. avatar Niall Harden
    it's the bridge.
    same happens mine.. i made a few adjustments to the bridge and it helped it stray from whatever tuning it was in a little slower,, but idea;;y i'd love to get a better designed bridge fitted to the guitar. there's no real point in getting it "£set up" by a "professional" for money.. as in no time the saddles will be friared again and you'll be back to square one.
  26. avatar Pete
    A professional would know about the bridge and wouldn't touch the guitar unless you let them upgrade the hardware. Or the guys I go to anyway.