1. avatar comprachio
    Anyone know of any good unsigned omagh bands?
  2. avatar Captain Kennedy
    Are Colenso Parade from Omagh? They're class.
  3. avatar Danny McCormack
    Freerider - incredible band

    [url]http://freeridermusic.bebo.com[/url]

    [url]http://www.freeridermusic.com/[/url]

    [url]http://www.myspace.com/freeriderrockband[/url]

    +1 Colenso Parade too, another great band. We really aren't spoiled for original music talent here in Omagh but those two bands really are platinum record standard.
  4. avatar Seamy ALB
    Casper are a Omagh band.
  5. avatar Danny McCormack
    Also Horslypse -

    [url]http://www.horslypse.com[/url]

    [url]http://www.myspace.com/horslypse[/url]
  6. avatar Mardy-Bum
    My first post!
    Colenso Parade!! Defo a band to look out for in the future!

    Best Tune-Dont Mind The Weather

    Great bunch of guys 2! Go on the Parade!! :D
  7. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    Why Omagh though? It's great, I'm not complaining, just thought it was a strange choice



    www.myspace.com/colensoparade
    colensoparade.bebo.com
  8. avatar michael countervela
    I think that ALB are from Tyrone? They rock.
  9. avatar The In Theory Rant
    [quote:406660f582="Mickeycolensoparade"]Why Omagh though? It's great, I'm not complaining, just thought it was a strange choice



    www.myspace.com/colensoparade
    colensoparade.bebo.com[/quote:406660f582]

    they do indeed.
  10. avatar feline1
    'Bomber & the Taigs' are pretty good
    (although they are no Slaughter & the Dogs...)
  11. avatar The Fires of Hell
    A little humanity, mun. :shock:
  12. avatar feline1
    Sorry, it was just the most outrageous thing I could think of in the time :lol:
  13. avatar Osama Bin Rockin'
    David, sometimes you have the ability to make me laugh so hard a little bit of wee comes out...
  14. avatar comprachio
    mmm, bomb jokes tend to still not go down well with Omagh folk:-/
  15. avatar Osama Bin Rockin'
    No, but it wasn't the joke itself that was funny... it was the stupidest and most inappropriate thing that could possibly have been said, and, chastise me if you will, but I admire that. You know there is no harmful intent in what he says.
  16. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    The joke lacked a bit of tact, no matter where the humour lies in it. A little bit of humanity is right,
  17. avatar rigsyATL
    you're a deeply unfunny, irritating idiot.
  18. avatar feline1
    If I recall, you didn't like my 9/11 jokes either, Rigsy.

    Laughter is always the best medicine (unless you have a hernia) - that's sciece FACT.
  19. avatar rigsyATL
    they're not jokes cause they're not actually funny or clever in any way.
    they're just pointless 'ATTENTION FOR ME' outbursts.
  20. avatar feline1
    You can raspackt the awtharatay of terrorists and Big Men if you like, Rigsy.
    Personally I don't care for their taboos.

    Anyways, another poster remarked that they'd laughed so much that they'd—quite liderally—wet themselves. Perhaps this person has incorrect attitudes and should psychiaterized so as not to cause offence to decent people.

    As for attention seeking: remind me again - which one of us pursues a career in broadcasting...?
  21. avatar rigsyATL
    twist it around whatever way you like, sir. i still think you're a fool and that's the last you'll hear from me on the matter :-D
  22. avatar Broken Studio
    I recorded 'Colenso Parade' at 'Broken Studio' (shameless promotion) and I was extremely impressed with their musicianship, songs, and overall sound. They are an extremely pleasant bunch of talented guys and if your looking for an unsigned band from Omagh then I'm sure they are that band.
  23. avatar feline1
    Well that is of course your perogative, and just as with the aftermath of 9/11, I'm sure History will prove you right...


    //PSSSST --- OK LISTEN EVERYBODY - this is a thread about Omagh - **don't mention the Bomb!!**
    (I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it...)
    Now, you keep 'em talking and I'll go take their orders...///
  24. avatar rigsyATL
    are Tetra Neon from Omagh? really liking their stuff. I'm pretty sure they're from that direction anyway.
  25. avatar Danny McCormack
    I told you this wouldn't go down well, Feline.
  26. avatar p-t-rebel-mc
    Tetra Neon are not from Omagh. Never heard of them before.
  27. avatar p-t-rebel-mc
    Oh and a505 are from Omagh. They are pure class and their soon to be released EP is extremly good. Freerider are amazing too and there is a group of very young bands starting into writing their own material such as The Soviets and The Randals.

    Omagh is a very good place for live music at the moment.

    Shameless plug - General Fiasco, Colenso Parade - 4M Omagh This Friday the 29th of August
  28. avatar TheJaneBradfords
    I went to school in Omagh. Does that count?;)
  29. avatar feline1
    I'd like to congratulate everyone on helping to move this thread forward.
  30. avatar imabeast
    im still at school here :cry:


    www.myspace.com/thewildandtheinnocent


    another nice omagh band i enjoy
  31. avatar The Natural
    Disgraceful, Feline.
    That sort of thing is only funny if Bill Hicks said it.
  32. avatar The_Soviets
    Check us out

    www.myspace.com/thesovietsomagh


    we're an omagh band enjoying some success at the minute
  33. avatar goatboy
    [quote:7430abcd59="TheJaneBradfords"]I went to school in Omagh. Does that count?;)[/quote:7430abcd59]

    Answering your own questions........ tut, tut.

    I guess that's what happens when people dig up threads from the past.
  34. avatar feline1
    yes but I did some reading on the Omagh bomb recently when they unveiled that memorial.

    Apparently the main reason why the car bomb killed so many people was that the bombers wanted to park in front of the court house, but they couldn't find a parking space (and presumeably didn't want to get a ticket).

    It's not so much a question of not knowing whether to laugh or cry,
    but of not knowing whether to cry or smash yourself repeatedly in the face with a broken milk bottle whilst enacting a sweeping programme of eugenics.

    However Jesus, as they say, wept.
  35. avatar charlysays2
    the lead singer in Mantic is from Omagh
  36. avatar Mardy-Bum
    A505 ;)
  37. avatar rentaghost
    [quote:3bd8250683="feline1"]yes but I did some reading on the Omagh bomb recently when they unveiled that memorial.

    Apparently the main reason why the car bomb killed so many people was that the bombers wanted to park in front of the court house, but they couldn't find a parking space (and presumeably didn't want to get a ticket).
    [/quote:3bd8250683]

    How was this information obtained, or rather, from whom?
    Seems a bit detailed regarding what the bombers wanted given that no-one has ever been flaming well convicted for it. :/
  38. avatar T Entertainment
    That's just a deduction based on the phone warning identifying the courthouse as the target.
  39. avatar p-t-rebel-mc
    Deci you are no more omagh than the man on the moon ye city slicker. Look at you there with your laptop and your mug of fancy coffee.

    Whos mantic's singer?
  40. avatar comprachio
    It's a sensible deduction if you've tried parking in omagh on a busy saturday. The bomb was on a timer. No matter how patriotic the bombers felt they were i'd imagine they dumped the car in a panic when they were unable to park near the target.

    and you're right! I'm not from Omagh. Castlederg and proud (read ashamed).
  41. avatar T Entertainment
    It seems likely Shiels' shop or as close to it as possible was the secondary target if they couldn't get to the courthouse. And after that everything went to shit.
  42. avatar comprachio
    i really don't think the intention was to kill though. Not defending them at all but it was out of character with everything they've done before and since that.
  43. avatar T Entertainment
    Oh aye, almost definitely not.
  44. avatar yodaISgreen
    1/4 of Not Squares is from Omagh - does that count?
  45. avatar feline1
    [quote:cb1b55442d="rentaghost"][quote:cb1b55442d="feline1"]yes but I did some reading on the Omagh bomb recently when they unveiled that memorial.

    Apparently the main reason why the car bomb killed so many people was that the bombers wanted to park in front of the court house, but they couldn't find a parking space (and presumeably didn't want to get a ticket).
    [/quote:cb1b55442d]

    How was this information obtained, or rather, from whom?
    Seems a bit detailed regarding what the bombers wanted given that no-one has ever been flaming well convicted for it. :/[/quote:cb1b55442d]


    it was on wikipedia, of course :lol:
  46. avatar feline1
    [quote:c022494481="comprachio"]i really don't think the intention was to kill though. Not defending them at all but it was out of character with everything they've done before and since that.[/quote:c022494481]

    what, murdering people? :?

    In other bombing news,
    yesterday I got the exciting new DVD of Dr Who's "The War Machines", starring everyone's favourite cantankerous racist, Billy "Carry On Sergeant" Hartnell,
    where some maniacal computer machines built out of sticklebricks invade the Post Office Tower and try to horribly mutilate everyone in London beyond the recognition of their own mothers.

    ANYWAYS,
    the point way, one of the bonus features was a documentary where ex-PostMasterGeneral Tony Benn goes back to the Post Office Tower, and bemoans the fact that it is no longer open to the public and you can't go up and eat soup in the rotating reataurant at the top etc etc... he blamed this all on evil thatcherite privitisation, but the official line from BT is becuause the 'Ra planted a bomb in it in 1971.

    Well! I bally well would like to know what wee Martin and Big Gerry have to say about that! Isn't it about time they moved this process forward and stopped the evil British Telecomist oppression that's stopping us all having rotating soup for dinner at the top of the BT tower?? Sort it out, boys!! It's been 37 years now, and god knows this country could do with some soup and a view. :o
  47. avatar feline1
    [quote:3b8a3b07d6="yodaISgreen"]1/4 of Not Squares is from Omagh - does that count?[/quote:3b8a3b07d6]

    Oh dear - which 1/4 of him is that? A severed leg? etc etc
  48. avatar p-t-rebel-mc
    Feline you are a rambling idiot. Simply a pathetic attempt to be "random" and "funny". Purile 15yr old goth kid humour. Poking hummor at the most offensive thing possible coupled with radomness shows lack of wit. Its the sort that makes people cringe reading.


    Is it possible to ever mention Omagh now and not have someone mention the horrible attrocity that deepely affected a community 10 yrs ago. This thread was meant to be about bands from Omagh. Is uttering the word Omagh synanomaous with conversation about the bomb?
  49. avatar RabbBennett
    :smt009
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  50. avatar comprachio
    don't be so fatuous feline, have you looked at the number of fatalities caused by Real IRA bombs?

    They killed no one before the Omagh bomb and one person since. Their campaigns have concentrated largely on attacking symbols of 'British occupation' rather than causing loss of life (particularly civilian life). Their history and actions since the Omagh bomb, coupled with knowledge of the area, would seem to support the theory that the deaths in Omagh were not intentional.

    Yes bombing is wrong and evil etc etc but not all bombing has the intent of killing and it would be absurd to say otherwise. I'm not condoning rather explaining what was the most likely scenario.

    RabbBennet... ah fuckit... nevermind
  51. avatar feline1
    well The Real IRA were no The Real Feline Dream,
    but anyways who are the "Real" IRA anyways?
    Are they not all just spides who used to be in the Provisional IRA but decided to leave (or were kicked out?) because they didn't want to have a ceasefire and give up bombing and go out and earn a decent day's wage robbing banks and stuff instead?
    And what about David Van Daye's IRA? And the Official Real IRA featuring David Van Daye's Real IRA (Officially)?

    If the Real IRA all used to be in the Provisional IRA then I can't see that we can say they didn't previously used to enjoy nonconsensually murdering people for legitimate valid political ends,
    and moreover I can't agree that the fact they haven't continued to keep blowing people up after the Omagh Bomb logically means that they didn't mean to blow people up after the Omagh Bomb:
    I'd say it was more likely they meant to blow people up after the Omagh Bomb, but when they say how disgusted and revolted everyone was at them (instead of thinking they were really cool and hard and undertaking legitimate political activities to fight the evils of democracy),
    they were thus too scared and embarrassed to do it any more.
    Plus, they people are clearly such f*cking morons that any attempt to rationalise their wholly irrational actions is probably a bit tenuous.
  52. avatar comprachio
    if you've read extensively about it and are from the area as i have and am then the explanation i gave is the most logical. The Omagh atrocity doesn't sit with the real IRA modus operandi - BEFORE the bombing nor after it. They didn't kill before Omagh nor did the show intent in sticking a bomb in the middle of a crowd of people (mostly Catholics) after maliciously sending a false warning to send them into the path of the bomb.

    I didn't defend the people that did it, nor would i considering several friends were injured and friends of my family killed. What i offered was a rational explanation of what happened. They sent a bomb to omagh to destroy a courthouse, they fucked up and 29 people died. It's no comfort, its just most likely to be the truth.
  53. avatar RabbBennett
    :smt009
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  54. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    PS 'god knows this country could do with some soup and a view' - too right! I think this may be the answer to all man's evils. Everyone should have some mulligatawny and check out that f*ckin' view, then conduct their business in a dignified manner. Of the many competeing ideologies out there I think the nations can agree on soup AND views, both of which rock.

    {edited due to overzealous use of smiles and gobbledigook}
  55. avatar feline1
    [quote:03e26c5678="comprachio"]if you've read extensively about it and are from the area as i have and am then the explanation i gave is the most logical. [/quote:03e26c5678]

    I don't agree, and you seem to have completely ignored the main point I made:

    - You keep talking about what "The Real IRA" had done before... but if "The Real IRA" were all just "dissidents" who had formerly been in "The Provisional IRA" and "Ritchie Blackmore's IRA featuring Paul Quodgers", then how can you say they didn't previously have a "modus operadiii" (yeah, like they are all fluent in Latin!) that involved non-consensual murder?
    Once a person or dog has already attempted to murder once, it's a well known fact that their brain is chemically altered as they now have a "taste for blood" and they must be put down before they get the red mist and strike again.


    I do tend to agree though, that they weren't intentionally seeking such a PR disaster, but it seems to me perfectly plausible that they left their car bomb in the wrong place because they couldn't find a parking space. I mean come on, nonconsensual murder is one thing, but parking on double yellow lines is quite another.

    The other theory of course is that the whole thing was a secureaucrat double bluff...
    Those pesky secreaucrats!
    Apparently Bodie had infiltrated the Real IRA but had to go along with planting the bomb otherwise he would've blown Doyle's cover or sthg. George Cowley insisted that a good operative like Doyle was more important than the lives of a few Omaghers and that was that.
  56. avatar T Entertainment
    "they weren't intentionally seeking such a PR disaster"

    That's about the height of it. However, if they'd killed some cops who were clearing the area, it would have been a result in their terms.

    But it was definitely a disaster for them. Car bombs had been left in similar circumstances by the Provos hundreds of times in towns like Omagh without such calamitous results and there's nothing to suggest this was anything other than an attempt at same. Banbridge was bombed by dissidents in the same way a few weeks before, Portadown and Moira a few months before that. (All such attacks left in their wake a legacy of bitterness, hardship and frequently maimings and killings, but multiple fatalities were not the [i:9642bc250b]objective[/i:9642bc250b] in those explosions.)


    But the main point about the people who bombed Omagh is that killing on whatever scale is something they self evidently had no objection to - it's whether or not it was helpful to their overall aims. The Omagh bombing manifestly wasn't. Nor did it finish them off tho as it was optimistically speculated in the years after, as recent evidents depressingly confirm.
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  57. avatar Chi-Lite
    All very insightful of yous, I'm sure, but what has this got to do with bands from Omagh again?
  58. avatar feline1
    I remain bewildered as to what their "aims" were anyways?

    They were protesting about the fact that people had decided they weren't being oppressed and didn't need to fight each other anymore? And had voted for peace? Which the Real IRA thus found to be oppressive?

    What did they hope to achieve? That everyone in Ireland *would* decide they were oppressed and thus would have to fight their oppressors? Who were themselves? As they'd been the ones deciding they weren't oppressed? So it would all end like that Monty Python sketch here
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-9qZ4Zs6Ys
    where Colin "Bomber" Harris trying to defeat himself in a wrestling match? (And loses)


    ++++++++++++
    DAMN, I see scenewrecker Herberts has made me run out of posts of today now.
    But comprachio, checking the infallible wikipedia once more, the CAIN project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_IRA_campaign_1969-1997#Casualties
    says either 621 or 644 civilians (depending how you count 'em) have thus far been non-consensually murdered by the Provisional IRA as part of a valid political process, so your contention that the Real IRA (who are all-ex PIRA members) couldn't possibly have intended to kill civilians at Omagh because such behaviour is totally out of character for them and without past precedent is not just baseless, but baseless at least 621 times over.
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  59. avatar comprachio
    I agree Chris. If they'd caused the deaths of a couple of police/army men they wouldn't have minded - probably celebrated, but it was not in the nature of the organisation to want to kill 29 civilians - most of whom were Catholic - nor would that have been an PIRA motivation.

    Feline, it wasn't a case of double yellows, it was/is a single lane, one way system around the courthouse. If there was nowhere to park you'd have had to park the car in the middle of the road and block all traffic on a busy road. I wonder how long it would've been before the police sussed out which car had a bomb in it.... I'm not being pedantic here but reinforcing the theory i've put forward.
  60. avatar p-t-rebel-mc
    Ack the poor old IRA. Sure didnt it ruin their PR! The fact remains a pathetic organisation killed 29 people whether it was their aim or not. It happened and it couldn't leave a worse taste in my mouth.

    I wish to fuck I didnt reignite this post now.
  61. avatar greensleevesisgod
    All my life, whenever I heard the 'real' IRA term being used. I always thought of this:

    [img:bac98b5100]http://sharetv.org/images/the_real_ghostbusters-show.jpg[/img:bac98b5100]
  62. avatar comprachio
    It's not baseless at all Feline! I'm not saying that the individuals you make up the RIRA are incapable of killing, I am sayin it wasn't the MO of the RIRA to kill civilians. How is that baseless? If the RIRA was an organisation that had no heirarchy of command in place and its members were free to do what they like then fine, i would be completely off the mark but as it stands they were opperating as an army with an agenda. The agenda was the RIRA's and not the PIRA's.
  63. avatar boarsheadtaverncheapside
    But does anyone know where the very top tier of this self appointed chain of command stand on the basics, namely SOUP and VIEWS?
    Actually I don't mean to be flippant about this, it's just a bizarre argument.
  64. avatar rigsyATL
    here deci, why are you conversing with this absolute moron?

    given he operates his ridiculous persona exclusively online, the best way to make him go away is to ignore him.
  65. avatar Belle
    [quote:6c1bd94b0c="feline1"]well The Real IRA were no The Real Feline Dream,
    but anyways who are the "Real" IRA anyways?
    Are they not all just spides who used to be in the Provisional IRA but decided to leave (or were kicked out?) because they didn't want to have a ceasefire and give up bombing and go out and earn a decent day's wage robbing banks and stuff instead?
    And what about David Van Daye's IRA? And the Official Real IRA featuring David Van Daye's Real IRA (Officially)?

    If the Real IRA all used to be in the Provisional IRA then I can't see that we can say they didn't previously used to enjoy nonconsensually murdering people for legitimate valid political ends,
    and moreover I can't agree that the fact they haven't continued to keep blowing people up after the Omagh Bomb logically means that they didn't mean to blow people up after the Omagh Bomb:
    I'd say it was more likely they meant to blow people up after the Omagh Bomb, but when they say how disgusted and revolted everyone was at them (instead of thinking they were really cool and hard and undertaking legitimate political activities to fight the evils of democracy),
    they were thus too scared and embarrassed to do it any more.
    Plus, they people are clearly such f*cking morons that any attempt to rationalise their wholly irrational actions is probably a bit tenuous.[/quote:6c1bd94b0c]

    TIT!
  66. avatar feline1
    [quote:0b057ed844="greensleevesisgod"]All my life, whenever I heard the 'real' IRA term being used. I always thought of this:

    [img:0b057ed844]http://sharetv.org/images/the_real_ghostbusters-show.jpg[/img:0b057ed844][/quote:0b057ed844]


    Well where do you think they got their name from??? :lol:


    [quote:0b057ed844="rigstables"]
    given he operates his ridiculous persona exclusively online, the best way to make him go away is to ignore him. [/quote:0b057ed844]

    Is that why you do the opposite, and our license fee to hurl inept insults at him instead?
    :)


    [quote:0b057ed844="Belle"]
    TIT!
    [/quote:0b057ed844]

    Well quite!
    [img:0b057ed844]http://www.naturephoto-cz.com/photos/birds/great-tit-3066.jpg[/img:0b057ed844]
    [i:0b057ed844]A tit, yesterday[/i:0b057ed844]
  67. avatar feline1
    [quote:c6f5d47801="comprachio"]It's not baseless at all Feline! I'm not saying that the individuals you make up the RIRA are incapable of killing, I am sayin it wasn't the MO of the RIRA to kill civilians. How is that baseless? If the RIRA was an organisation that had no heirarchy of command in place and its members were free to do what they like then fine, i would be completely off the mark but as it stands they were opperating as an army with an agenda. The agenda was the RIRA's and not the PIRA's.[/quote:c6f5d47801]


    Well I don't know, I must bow to your superior knowledge of the Real Anderson-Bruford-Wakeman-&-HowRA's frighteningly rigorous command structures. Doubtless Schteekie McF*ck is Grand High Admiral of the Bombs, whilst "Slanger" McBeggsie is 11th Lance Earl of Her Majesty's Murder Batallion, or something.
    Do they have systems of medals and stuff?
    Does the sergeant major inspect their shoes in the morning and if they're not shiny enough they have to endure a "beasting" out in the bogs and then drink five pints of officer's p*ss before breakfast?

    I BALLY WELL HOPE SO.
  68. avatar Recycled Alien
    It's not often that I read these "discussions" and come to the conclusion that Deci is a deluded dupe, and feline1 is in touch with reality.

    One of the pieces of evidence in the civil case against the alleged bombers is that Seamus McKenna phoned Liam Campbell, supposed "second in command" of the RIRA, immediately after leaving the bomb. If that's not chain of command, I don't know what is.

    Or was he saying, "I couldn't get to the target, but it's OK, I'm outside a clothes shop. Nobody will get hurt."?
  69. avatar comprachio
    how am i a deluded dupe?

    It's roundly accepted that they didn't intend to kill anyone, that they parked in the wrong area, and that after they parked a different warning claiming the car was parked on 'main st' was phoned into the Samaritans.

    I've read the reports and followed the hearing. I was arguing that the loss of life was unintentional - how have i been duped?
  70. avatar Belle
    [quote:a96c4b1d89="feline1"][quote:a96c4b1d89="greensleevesisgod"]All my life, whenever I heard the 'real' IRA term being used. I always thought of this:

    [img:a96c4b1d89]http://sharetv.org/images/the_real_ghostbusters-show.jpg[/img:a96c4b1d89][/quote:a96c4b1d89]


    Well where do you think they got their name from??? :lol:


    [quote:a96c4b1d89="rigstables"]
    given he operates his ridiculous persona exclusively online, the best way to make him go away is to ignore him. [/quote:a96c4b1d89]

    Is that why you do the opposite, and our license fee to hurl inept insults at him instead?
    :)


    [quote:a96c4b1d89="Belle"]
    TIT!
    [/quote:a96c4b1d89]

    Well quite!
    [img:a96c4b1d89]http://www.naturephoto-cz.com/photos/birds/great-tit-3066.jpg[/img:a96c4b1d89]
    [i:a96c4b1d89]A tit, yesterday[/i:a96c4b1d89][/quote:a96c4b1d89]


    TWAT!!!
  71. avatar RabbBennett
    [quote:6c99422347="Recycled Alien"]It's not often that I read these "discussions" and come to the conclusion that Deci is a deluded dupe, and feline1 is in touch with reality.

    One of the pieces of evidence in the civil case against the alleged bombers is that Seamus McKenna phoned Liam Campbell, supposed "second in command" of the RIRA, immediately after leaving the bomb. If that's not chain of command, I don't know what is.

    Or was he saying, "I couldn't get to the target, but it's OK, I'm outside a clothes shop. Nobody will get hurt."?[/quote:6c99422347]

    I could not off put it better myself.........x
  72. avatar Belle
    Seriously though I'm thinking .......what has the last 5 pages got to do with BANDS FROM OMAGH?

    Get a grip FFS you deluded internet geeks!!!!

    If you want to talk politics .....start a "why the bomb happened" type thread.

    FFS where are the musicians (Gigging obviously)

    Said with love!

    Belle
  73. avatar Whiskey_Dust
    Get yourself some Whiskey Dust love.
    'Big in Castlederg and loved by lesbians'
    www.bebo.com/whiskeydust-
  74. avatar Recycled Alien
    [quote:b947a9f899="comprachio"]how am i a deluded dupe?

    It's roundly accepted that they didn't intend to kill anyone, that they parked in the wrong area, and that after they parked a different warning claiming the car was parked on 'main st' was phoned into the Samaritans.

    I've read the reports and followed the hearing. I was arguing that the loss of life was unintentional - how have i been duped?[/quote:b947a9f899]"unintentional" in the sense that they detonated a car bomb on a busy shopping street and expected some other outcome?

    What you've argued here is the the RIRA aren't as bad as we all thought, because (bless 'em) all they ever wanted to do was attack symbols of British imperialism.

    Whether or not that is true, it does seem evident that they place no importance whatsoever on the value of human life. (As was evidenced by the evidence in Colm Murphy's trial of the alleged bombers drinking and laughing in his bar on the night of the bombing.)

    Arguing that massive loss of life is merely "incidental" and not a matter of policy is splitting hairs when the loss of life is a direct outcome of the organisation's policy.

    I think there's a fair case for considering the Real IRA as the enemies of us all here in Ireland, regardless of politics.
  75. avatar comprachio
    [quote:6e88fda8de]What you've argued here is the the RIRA aren't as bad as we all thought[/quote:6e88fda8de]

    That is NOT what i've argued. Show me where i've argued that. What I have argued is that when they planned to send a bomb to Omagh they did not intend to kill 29 civilians. I am not sympathetic to their cause nor am I to any terrorist organisation, nor do i appreciate any inference that i am, I'm being objective.
  76. avatar feline1
    I fail to see how the notion that they non-consensually murdered people by ACCIDENT, as a by-product of them being INEPT F*CKWITS, IRRATIONAL LOONS and COMPLETE DELUDED MONGS UTTERLY DIVORCED FROM REALITY makes things any [color=red:43d75f270b]BETTER[/color:43d75f270b]!

    In a way, it just makes it WORSE, the sheer banality and cluelessness schemes.
  77. avatar Belle
    [quote:32043dfd34="feline1"]I fail to see how the notion that they non-consensually murdered people by ACCIDENT, as a by-product of them being INEPT F*CKWITS, IRRATIONAL LOONS and COMPLETE DELUDED MONGS UTTERLY DIVORCED FROM REALITY makes things any [color=red:32043dfd34]BETTER[/color:32043dfd34]!

    In a way, it just makes it WORSE, the sheer banality and cluelessness schemes.[/quote:32043dfd34]

    Cock!!
  78. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    General Fiasco played in Omagh last night, and went down very well.
  79. avatar feline1
    [quote:e3aa3293b5="Belle"][quote:e3aa3293b5="feline1"]I fail to see how the notion that they non-consensually murdered people by ACCIDENT, as a by-product of them being INEPT F*CKWITS, IRRATIONAL LOONS and COMPLETE DELUDED MONGS UTTERLY DIVORCED FROM REALITY makes things any [color=red:e3aa3293b5]BETTER[/color:e3aa3293b5]!

    In a way, it just makes it WORSE, the sheer banality and cluelessness schemes.[/quote:e3aa3293b5]

    Cock!![/quote:e3aa3293b5]

    Oh I see, is this a game?
    Try this then!
    http://www.phespirit.info/derekandclive/ad_nauseam_15.htm
  80. avatar comprachio
    Someone drink drives/speeds. They are knowingly breaking the law and endangering lives. They crash into a car and kill a family of 5. They are convicted of manslaughter and not murder. They were aware that what they were doing was illegal and could very well result in them killing someone yet they are not charged with murder....

    I never said it made it better. I simply was trying to explain what is likely to have happened.

    Anyway, this thread was about omagh bands a year ago when I was interested in featuring one on a live Radio 1 broadcast from Omagh. We used Colenso Parade who are a very good band.
  81. avatar p-t-rebel-mc
    General fiasco were on great form last night
  82. avatar comprachio
    [quote:f0bef14a23]General fiasco were on great form last night[/quote:f0bef14a23]

    ...And every night i've seen them play!
  83. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    There's a lot of really young bands floating about Omagh and the surrounding area these days. Although it's nowhere near Belfast/Derry standards, I think in a few years we'll have a promising roster.
  84. avatar feline1
    [quote:437b0f6242="comprachio"]Someone drink drives/speeds. They are knowingly breaking the law and endangering lives. They crash into a car and kill a family of 5. They are convicted of manslaughter and not murder. [/quote:437b0f6242]

    At least when people drink and drive, there is some kind of rational behaviour involved - they are being reckless, selfish, and lazy - they want to drive their own car to get somewhere rather than leave it behind and get a taxi or a lift and have to pick it up somewhere else... it's a big risk (generally with other people's lives) for a small gain, and thoroughly reprehensible, but you can see "why" they did it.
    I remain at a loss to see "why" the Real Australian IRA Show decided they needed to mount a terrorist campaign of resistance to liberate the people of Ireland from the oppression of their own expressed consensus. I've seen more logic in a plate of spaghetti.
  85. avatar comprachio
    personally i see no logic in either, nor did I say I did at any stage. All I said, all I've ever said is what I believe to have happened. I haven't said I agreed with it - I vehemently disagree with it and as I said, my friends were there that day and I would have been too if I had not been on holiday. I haven't said they shouldn't be held accountable. I haven't been duped into thinking the RIRA are 'not that bad.'

    All I said, in comparing the Omagh bomb to the DUI scenario, is that reprehensible acts can become absolute catastrophes without the intent having ever been there. I don't think they deserve any clemency for what they did but in contrast to what you think i would have been more disgusted that someone could DELIBERATELY set out to inflict as much damage as possible to human life.

    There's no win for Omagh people anyway. People are 'fed up' with the families striving for justice (one NI forum wished one of the bereaved parents would 'fuck up and die') while if anyone is objective about what happened they're an RIRA sympathizer....
  86. avatar Mickeycolensoparade
    The crowds are appreciative of the bands as well, The JB's should get their collective arses down the road. Stop actin' the big city buck Deci like!
  87. avatar comprachio
    book them, they will come...
  88. avatar feline1
    [quote:4e72821524="comprachio"]

    There's no win for Omagh people anyway. People are 'fed up' with the families striving for justice (one NI forum wished one of the bereaved parents would 'fuck up and die') [/quote:4e72821524]

    But such an attitude is patently ludicrous and such 'wishers' should probably be killed, or at the very least kept in pens and not allowed to breed. :o
  89. avatar comprachio
    i agree wholeheartedly feline but that attitude exists and i have encountered it several times (in forums and in person), especially with attitudes towards one particular parent. I think they've earned their right to campaign as long as it takes to achieve justice.
  90. avatar feline1
    [quote:acc8b5c421="comprachio"]i agree wholeheartedly feline but that attitude exists and i have encountered it several times (in forums and in person), especially with attitudes towards one particular parent. I think they've earned their right to campaign as long as it takes to achieve justice.[/quote:acc8b5c421]

    well quite! Why should the Omagh bombers be allowed to enjoy the rest of their days living in luxury bungalows in Dundalk, fitting out 2nd-rate double glazing to unsuspecting culchies?
  91. avatar Chi-Lite
    Ach lads, stop being p[b:7a6d656838][/b:7a6d656838]ricks, come on.

    of all the pointless arguments...
  92. avatar feline1
    [quote:43ad990693="Chi-Lite"]Ach lads, stop being p[b:43ad990693][/b:43ad990693]ricks, come on.

    of all the pointless arguments...[/quote:43ad990693]


    I agree, Chi-Lite.
    What has it come to in this country if you can't blow up a shopping street without a load of bloody whingers harping on about it for 10 years afterwards?
    I blame the peace process.
  93. avatar Chi-Lite
    Yes, but waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa f[b:0617880e6c][/b:0617880e6c]ucking waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
  94. avatar anty
    tragedy happened, hopefully noone here was involved, do we need to go into every detail of the past once a certain place in this lovely country is mentioned?

    fuck sake make it about the music leek

    or ill fucking bomb ye email style :lol:
  95. avatar feline1
    [quote:52994c5afd="anty"]tragedy happened, hopefully noone here was involved, do we need to go into every detail of the past once a certain place in this lovely country is mentioned?

    fuck sake make it about the music leek

    or ill fucking bomb ye email style :lol:[/quote:52994c5afd]


    you forgot to say "aye sure it was all good craic, like!"
  96. avatar basileh
    Tetra Neon aren't going anymore. Great band. Myspace said they were a belfast band.
    http://www.myspace.com/tetraneon
  97. avatar comprachio
    [quote:1e96f1e4e4]fuck sake make it about the music leek[/quote:1e96f1e4e4]

    The thread is redundant music wise. It's a year old!
  98. avatar feline1
    yes but those secureacrats haven't gone away you know!
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/sep/16/northernireland.uksecurity
  99. avatar artofdarkness
    I note the increasing trend towards describing bombs as supposedly harmless objects that only kill people when they're fool enough to get in the way.

    I couldn't be involved with planning/wiring/transporting/discussing a bomb without being aware that its inherent purpose and capacity for extensive damage means it can (and will) kill people in nearly any location you put it, outside of your control.

    If my intent is not to kill people, I would turn towards using means and objects that don't kill people, problem of accidental death and bad PR solved from the start.

    And this idea of bombs only being directed to damage 'economic targets' is to overlook that important buildings are generally constructed to house people, who generally are inside them. How inconvenient that they should sometimes get in the way of a bomb that was only supposed to be harmless.

    This golden-haloed revisionism, it isn't on - the claim that there was a total disconnect between intent and actual effect is being used to wash hands. Anyone involved with a viable bomb knows it has only one purpose for being made and placed.
  100. avatar feline1
    VILA: Don't like explosives! Very crude. Difficult to reason with a bomb.
    (he jumps a mile and nearly drops one)
    AVON: they won't explode until they are primed.
    VILA: And if it was faulty?? A bit late to complain to the manufacturer!


    etc etc etc
  101. avatar p-t-rebel-mc
    99 posts and a band aint one.
  102. avatar victoria v-cappella
    My first post!
    Thank you to the one who knew that the singer from Mantic is from Omagh. We want to play there, but it's been a while since I went to a gig in the town. Where would yees recommend? Top of the Town? That 4m place? What do the other Omagh bands on here think of the scene? And would Colenso Parade be up for joining us on the night???