1. avatar fastfude
    This morning I watched a pretty good interview with John Roderick of [url=http://www.thelongwinters.com/]The Long Winters[/url] hither:

    http://www.themerlinshow.com/ep/012-interview-john-roderick

    [quote:a4299b27eb]John curses at on-set hippies, wonders about making money on the web, and demands that indie rockers learn to behave more like building contractors. Roffle, roffle, roffle. (Contains PG-13 language, ribald exchanges, and frank discussion of show business [“it’s not ‘show friend…’”])[/quote:a4299b27eb]

    I'm interested in the points he made about how playing in a band for a living is not perceived or respected as a 'job' in the conventional sense - either by the general public or even by people in other parts of the music business.

    The old lines of "You should be happy to be playing to a crowd" or "Payment? Sure look at all the exposure you're getting from this! Is that not payment enough?" seem to be fairly international.

    How do you value your music? Is it just a way to pass the evenings, something you treat with cold ruthless logic, or somewhere in between?
  2. avatar tinpot anto
    Music is always coming out of my head, songs pop in there and start making themselves happen. This is very frustrating and distracting. I work as a scientist for a day job, it's often difficult to concentrate with all the music stuff in there, I'm an OK scientist and it's a job that requires a lot of concentration and focus. The music in there stops me focussing properly, otherwise I'd probably be a pretty good scientist. Often ideas pop into my head in work and by the end of the day they have diffused, despite my best effort to scrawl them on post-it notes, run them on a constant loop or sing them seruptitiously into my mobile in the bogs etc. This is REALLY annoying. I grieve for the forgotten ideas.

    When I'm writing/playing music I don't get distracted by science coming in my head, I get happy and light and feel lovely. This is obviously what I'd like to feel all the time. To have the freedom to instantly be able to act on the idea, grab a guitar and a 4-track and sketch it so it won't be forgotten. This is my goal. Simply to be able to play music full time, catch all the ideas and not also have to have my wife and daughter living in my mother in laws, cursing me.

    I write whatever comes into my head and I don't try and twist it into something commercial etc. It would be pointless, there are a million people better at that sort of thing than I am. My strategy, and this goes for the rest of the TPO, is to be the BEST at what WE do, which involves trial and error and it's own frustrations but is much more rewarding in the long term. Also anything I write with the TPO is better than on my own to the nth degree. I love that.
  3. avatar ginpromo
    I have been gigging 17 years now, as a side earner through college, when I left college I worked lecturing and research for the universities but since early 2002 I have worked full time in music in cover bands, teaching guitar and recently promoting. I too am married with 2 kids, mortgage etc. but it can be done, ok I'm in a cover band, but it provides weekly income and most important enjoyment still after 17 years, not many jobs do that. My brother and sister are working classical musicians but unfortunately to many people including some of my family my music work is classified as a hobby, my wife is a textile artist with her own shop, which is a creative job, but she isn't seen as a hobbyiest, unfortunately rock n' roll work isn't classified as real, yet sometimes especially playing weddings I can earn £200 plus for a nights work, that's equivalent to 20 hours min wage. I think if you are happy yourself to make a go at it as a working musician, as long as you make ends meet and are happy, what else matters?
  4. avatar Wd-adam
    [quote:03fcd0d9a8="tinpot anto"]Music is always coming out of my head, songs pop in there and start making themselves happen. This is very frustrating and distracting. I work as a scientist for a day job, it's often difficult to concentrate with all the music stuff in there, I'm an OK scientist and it's a job that requires a lot of concentration and focus. The music in there stops me focussing properly, otherwise I'd probably be a pretty good scientist. Often ideas pop into my head in work and by the end of the day they have diffused, despite my best effort to scrawl them on post-it notes, run them on a constant loop or sing them seruptitiously into my mobile in the bogs etc. This is REALLY annoying. I grieve for the forgotten ideas.[/quote:03fcd0d9a8]

    Same thing with me. Many an assignment would be of higher merit if I could leave the guitar alone or focus on something other than music for more than 10 minutes.