1. avatar I'mDead
    In the void left by Lost's refusal to do anything but meander in ever confusing circles, and the growing realisation that this season's '24' is a bit rubbish, I have been watching 'Heroes'.

    but is it valid?
  2. avatar PaulMAK
    valid in what way? :roll:
  3. avatar The Grace Jones
    [quote:fac136186e]"Valid"[/quote:fac136186e] is like the bat-signal for Feline 1. If you are employing it, it indicates you are so bored that you need to either seriously consider switching your current employment or develop a serious nutmeg habit.
  4. avatar thefatson
    If by valid you mean good then yes.

    It also wears its influences on its sleeve and there a lot of well crafted references to other good sci fi/fantasy in it.
    Maybe thats just a good way of ripping them off but I see it as valid.

    The only bad thing is the American cheesiness and the tv schedule over there which is making me wait until mid april to see the next episode.

    Character development is also quite good. They have managed to combine ja ja binks, night crawler and ninja badassdness into Hiro in a very likable way.

    Every episode so far is on www.dailymotion.com
  5. avatar scott_evil
    im lovin heroes at the min i have episodes 1-16 and im about halfway thru and its really startin to pick up steam

    def check it out if you havnt already
  6. avatar adi.feud
    heroes is good steam, but i do still prefer lost
  7. avatar davethetimekeeper
    Prison Break is better...
  8. avatar scott_evil
    i really wish i had of watched prison break and its too late to start now!! and with only a dail-up connection :oops: (please let me stay a member!!) downloading isnt an option
  9. avatar miss catface
    once you get past the extremely cheesy voice over they have at the start, you'll be hooked. i saw it described somewhere as 'x-men meets lost' which is kinda true, but makes it sound almost tedious, where as its one of those shows that as each one ends you wish the next was out, meaning the american schedule has left me very peeved.
  10. avatar DuncanDisorderly
    the heroes drinking game -

    [i:38010bfe11]Take ONE drink when…[/i:38010bfe11]

    Niki sees her reflection wink back at her

    Nathan talks down to Peter

    Simone adds utterly no value to a scene

    Matt gets really confused about his power

    Ando makes a comment regarding giving up or going home

    Claire’s dad takes off his glasses, wipes them (or his brow), then puts them back on

    Two Heroes’ paths cross coincidentally

    Hiro raises his arms to the sky in an expression of joy

    D.L. doesn’t use his ability, but clearly could/should

    Sylar shows how much of a badass he is

    They find the sword

    The writers use Mohinder’s dad (Dr. Suresh) to explain a key plotline

    Any Hero dons a spandex uniform (and you must finish all the drinks around if that uniform sports a big X in the middle)

    and my personal favourite -

    Any time Mohinder mentions "my fathers research" (guaranteed to get you pissed as he says it every five minutes).

    heroes rocks - like all these american shows (lost, prison break etc) they have boring episodes that you have to endure but usually they are pretty cool.
  11. avatar ginpromo
    Check out Weeds Sky 3
  12. avatar thefatson
    I'm going to get so wasted now, I'll have to print that duncan.
  13. avatar Wd-adam
    Weeds is class, wish the seasons were longer.
  14. avatar fastfude
    Heroes is no Open All Hours
  15. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    "Open All Hours" is no "Sorry!"
  16. avatar theavenue
    [img:c1c79ca870]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b8/Fawlty_towers.jpg/200px-Fawlty_towers.jpg[/img:c1c79ca870]

    Fawlty towers, [i:c1c79ca870]yesterday[/i:c1c79ca870]
  17. avatar kingmob
    [img:2452562250]http://www.stevesbeatles.com/vinyl/british/ep/covers/yesterday.jpg[/img:2452562250]

    is no

    [img:2452562250]http://www.cineclub.de/images/2004/05/the-day-after-tomorrow-p.jpg[/img:2452562250]

    [i:2452562250]Yesterday ironically drawn alongside The Day After Tomorrow in tried and tested Fastfude favourite "[obscure reference a] is no [obscure reference b]" comparison, which usually results in hilarious consequences no matter how actually fucking tedious it is, yesterday[/i:2452562250]

    God, I am fucking hilarious.[/i]
  18. avatar clss_act_00
    this is why i love these boards, and why i hate them
  19. avatar Pete
    You know, for a load of people that supposedly hate this place, you don't half post a lot.
  20. avatar Baelmammon
    [img:e63a9237e4]http://www.hbo.com/carnivale/img/postcards/postcard_ep24_carnies.jpg[/img:e63a9237e4]
    Carnivale is the dog's bullicks, and why is HBO not making a third series, HBO bastrads.
  21. avatar whosbainejakey
    And so to "and sums it" up:

    "Sorry!" < "Home To Roost", just as "Yesterday" < "Meet The Beatles", where "<" = "is no."

    Heroes is brilliant. Only watched the first 4 thus far,, but it's such a great cast and a cool idea for a series in general. Hiro is my favourite, for obvious reasons.

    The Shield is back on US tv next week - let the rejoicing commence!
  22. avatar I'mDead
    'The Shield' is no 'Kojak' which is no.....sorry there

    Heroes just gets better and better - download it to avoid the annoying 'sponsored by Eidos' an breaks every nano-second.

    The episode where several heroes meet up at Claire's homeconing ball is creepy as hell and brilliant.

    Save the cheerleader, save the world, etc.
  23. avatar whosbainejakey
    [quote:49e709285d="I'mDead"]
    The episode where several heroes meet up at Claire's homeconing ball is creepy as hell and brilliant.

    Save the cheerleader, save the world, etc.[/quote:49e709285d]

    Watch it with the spoilers there! :?
  24. avatar scott_evil
    the shield is another belter but again the lack of broadband will prevent downloading ill have to wait till channel 5 start showing it RAGIN!!!
  25. avatar Zwaddap_deep_doo
    [quote:1067e7fdc8="whosbainejakey"][quote:1067e7fdc8="I'mDead"]
    The episode where several heroes meet up at Claire's homeconing ball is creepy as hell and brilliant.

    Save the cheerleader, save the world, etc.[/quote:1067e7fdc8]

    Watch it with the spoilers there! :?[/quote:1067e7fdc8]

    Your next a is no b post will force me to spam your life with every Heroes spoiler the internet has to offer.
  26. avatar I'mDead
    Dear Mr Roy, I kept that post totally free of spoilage, when I SO could have let loose. Besides, there is the small matter of some paintings which give major plot developments away.

    You bad boy.
  27. avatar whosbainejakey
    Aye but the paintings are safely tucked away in the show, so you can't see them without, y'know, watching it.

    Apparently they are auctioning a load of them off at the moment?

    Edit: Yup, for charidee: [url]http://buzzsugar.com/170577[/url]
  28. avatar The Ronster
    SPOILERISH!!!







    The episode where we learn about Bennetts past (17) is probably the best hour of telly so far this year.

    It's definitely looking like being a great series.

    Season 2 will apparently have an all new cast of 'Heroes' with a different end goal. I think it will probably end up that the different casts of individual seasons will meet up for some grand finale.
  29. avatar I'mDead
    I'm about to watch episode ten, but all I can say is, Hiro? Diner? Photograph? Brilliant!

    I heard that in the second season there will be a character who uses a mac and plectrums facing off against an arch nemesis who uses fingers and a PC, with a gradually unravelling sub-plot about the meaning of 'indie'.
  30. avatar kingmob
    There will also be someone who can deflect all superpowers by offering the *hilarious* put-down 'x is no y'.

    [img:3a0bc48228]http://www.fpigraphics.co.uk/blogger/Wolverine%20Hulk.jpg[/img:3a0bc48228]

    [i:3a0bc48228]"Admantium claws is no gamma ray radiation" says the Incredible Hulk, yesterday[/i:3a0bc48228]
  31. avatar The Ronster
    [img:0d4d4f7532]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/Ultimatehulk2.jpg[/img:0d4d4f7532]

    [i:0d4d4f7532]The Hulk, defiantly [b:0d4d4f7532]not[/b:0d4d4f7532] getting on with being in Ultimate Hulk vs Wolverine, yesterday.[/i:0d4d4f7532]

    It's all Lost's fault you know...
  32. avatar Stevie Mac
    Great series, love its comic-book sensibility and the intertwining fates of the unlikely heroes. Annoyed I have to wait til mid-April for the continuation.

    Hiro & Ando amuse me with their antics. They deserve a spin-off.
  33. avatar qui-gon
    yeah great show. hiro and ando pretty damn funny all the way through. Takes a while to really get going, character building and all that but the last 2 or 3 ep especially are great tv.

    decent copies at www.tv-links.co.uk
  34. avatar whosbainejakey
    Supposedly you can watch them all online at the Heroes page of the NBC website (though I'm wondering if it's US only?)

    There is an extended version of the pilot episode floating about in Torrent land somewhere; includes a few extra subplots, extended scenes and such.
  35. avatar TRHolmes(y)
    On a Lost note, Sunday's episode there was absolute MAGIC. Still can't get over that ending.

    It's a shame we have to wait for a while for more Heroes. I wasn't expecting to think much of it but by a few episodes in I was totally hooked. It's a good time for TV.
  36. avatar miss catface
    i've heard about this mysterious pilot episode. though from what i've heard theres no point in hunting for it cos the extra subplots include things which were completely scraped from the rest of the series.

    i'd liked to say what i know but fear that i'll say about it and the writers suddenly decide they were a good idea after all and bring them back for the final episode! i very much doubt it as one was fairly major, but still! i wouldnt want to spoil on some unknown level! if anyone really really really wants to know that badly message me or more likely go look it up!
  37. avatar ConorKane
    I agree, I like what I've seen of Heroes so far. I don't get the whole Lost phenomenon though. My housemate is completely obsessed with it, but since Virgin stopped broadcasting Sky One etc he can no longer watch it :D

    My favourite series of the last 6 few years is the Sopranos. I will be saddened when the final episode is shown.
  38. avatar The Ronster
    But the fact that the Sopranos is ending is a GOOD thing. Series that run indefinitely are usually balls.

    The Sopranos, The Wire, The Shield, Battlestar Galactica, Heroes, Lost, etc etc. -these shows are all going somewhere, with definite dramatic arcs and proper endings written for them.

    Revel in that, it's their biggest advantage in my opinion. I love the fact that a creator's vision is being played out on screen. I've heard it compared to a novel, but it's really more like a comic book, in that the story is delievered episodically and in general cannot be changed retrospectively (unlike a novelist, who can go back to chapter 1 and put a gun in a drawer - to do that in telly is cheating a bit, and requires all to convenient flashbacks).

    I've recently started to think that the real invention in the medium of moving pictures is on TV - mainstream movies are becoming more and more artisically bankrupt, whereas there always seems to be a new TV Show around the corner that can deliver consistant thrills, intrigue and flat out drama.
  39. avatar Achey
    I love all of them.

    Heroes and Prison Break are best, with Lost coming in last. It is still awesome though, I like the concept of it, just, not so......."instantly enjoyable".
  40. avatar whosbainejakey
    Anyone seen Shark with James Woods? Supposed to be another good 'un...
  41. avatar kingbowski
    [quote:7c7071b81d]The Sopranos, The Wire, The Shield, Battlestar Galactica, Heroes, Lost, etc etc. -these shows are all going somewhere, with definite dramatic arcs and proper endings written for them.[/quote:7c7071b81d]

    So Ron, do you think they know what they're up to on Lost? In the first couple of seasons alotta people would be like "Ahh, their just making it up as they go along" and I was like "That's fine, it's still great." But the more and more we see I now hope they do have it all planned out. Dosent help that i've been listenin to podcasts after each episode and people have noticed a million little things about every scene which has me goin :shock: . LOL.
  42. avatar thefatson
    According to an interview with Charlie from lost on Jonathon Ross he said they had it planned start to finish 3 seasons.
    Apparently once it got big the Network demanded they stretch it to like 7 seasons hence all the timewasting right now.

    I just hope they resolve the story line before it goes Twin Peaks.

    I am so damn sad about Twin Peaks I'd love to know the continuation of that story and whatever will happen to Dale Cooper.
  43. avatar kingmob
    Surely he got possessed by Bob and was about to go evil at the end of Season 2?

    I was prepared to enjoy the ride with Lost but after watching the first mini-season of the third series, I realised I couldn't honestly care what happened to any of them or what the secrets were. There's having a mysterious plot and then there's stringing the viewers along.

    Veronica Mars is a great example of giving viewers concrete hints while keeping the mystery, um, mysterious. It's incredibly well written because the story moved on each week and every new clue or mystery was matched by a substantial plot development. Lost doesn't do this. Plus Kristen Bell is hot :D
  44. avatar Orzo
    [quote:1be281133a="whosbainejakey"]Anyone seen Shark with James Woods? Supposed to be another good 'un...[/quote:1be281133a]

    Great show. On about episode 14 atm. Never a dull episode.

    Other worthy shows are:

    The Black Donnelly's [Written by Paul Haggis]
    Supernatural
    Jericho
  45. avatar sheriffjohnstone
    [quote:f0cb802661="thefatson"]According to an interview with Charlie from lost on Jonathon Ross he said they had it planned start to finish 3 seasons.
    Apparently once it got big the Network demanded they stretch it to like 7 seasons hence all the timewasting right now.

    I just hope they resolve the story line before it goes Twin Peaks.

    I am so damn sad about Twin Peaks I'd love to know the continuation of that story and whatever will happen to Dale Cooper.[/quote:f0cb802661]
    They are releasing season two on DVD soon, well region one anyway.
  46. avatar I'mDead
    The worst show for dragging its ass was 'X-Files'. The truth is still out there, since Chris Carter never told anyone what it was.
  47. avatar thefatson
    Don't spoil the end for everyone!

    Dale Cooper would have beaten Bob in the end if it had continued.
    That wasn't an ending but a new beginning that sadly never happened.
  48. avatar kingmob
    Best ending ever I reckon. I'm glad they left it at that.
  49. avatar Stevie Mac
    Got the box set of Life On Mars series 1 recently & loved every minute of it. And was genuinely disturbed by aspect of Sam's unconscious mind represented by the little girl from the BBC testcard who appears without warning.
  50. avatar I'mDead
    Interestingly, there was talk at one point of Dale Cooper popping up in the X-Files. To quote Kevin Costner, that would have been 'neat'.
  51. avatar whosbainejakey
    [quote:88ba082ec1="kingmob"]Best ending ever I reckon. I'm glad they left it at that.[/quote:88ba082ec1]

    It was good but it was no "the ending of The Prisoner."

    [img:88ba082ec1]http://www.anorakzone.com/prisoner/fallout4.jpg[/img:88ba082ec1]

    Now [i:88ba082ec1]that's[/i:88ba082ec1] how you do surrealism.
  52. avatar RAAP Management
    Er, I am sincerely hoping the above [i:5527306343]isn't[/i:5527306343] the most spectacular spoiler of all time?!
  53. avatar kingmob
    It's hardly Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's da like.
  54. avatar I'mDead
    Kingmob wrote:
    "Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's da like."

    Yeah right, next thing you'll be telling me Bruce Willis is a ghost in 'The sixth Sense'.....
  55. avatar scott_evil
    And that Die Hard isnt a documentary!!
  56. avatar garrexial
    and the titanic sinks.
  57. avatar thefatson
    I apparently ruined titanic for my sister by telling her that leonardo obviously dies even though I've never seen it and still refuse to watch it.
  58. avatar garrexial
    leonardo dies?? dammit you b@stard.
  59. avatar Eamonn Evangelists
    Apparently, everybody from the above mentioned programmes wake up to discover that it was all a dream.

    Then Freddy Kruger jumps out from under their beds and starts to masturbate. Dodgy glove? Snip snip? Do I smell a spin-off?
  60. avatar tinpot anto
    Anybody who liked the first couple of series' of the X-files, when they were still doing stand alone monster busts should watch Supernatural which is the same kind of deal only with more excuses to play Highway to Hell and Don't Fear the Reaper! In fact most episodes seem to be constructed just to fit in a suitable 70's Rock Occult Reference :)

    That's good.
  61. avatar smittennn
    aye anto!
    my mate Baelmammon is regularly appalled at my mullet rock renditions here in tech. cut off my digital to save my soul from box addiction then was introduced to daily motion. ah the decadence of dying brain cells. tvparty tonight! (re:friday as gig thursday/saturday) :D
  62. avatar whosbainejakey
    [quote:bd8ba5d043="RAAP Management"]Er, I am sincerely hoping the above [i:bd8ba5d043]isn't[/i:bd8ba5d043] the most spectacular spoiler of all time?![/quote:bd8ba5d043]

    Dear boy, you've only had the past 40 years to see it! They only made 17 episodes and if you haven't got round to watching them all by now, frankly, you deserve all the spoilers you get.

    [size=7:bd8ba5d043]Besides, it's not a spolier.[/size:bd8ba5d043]
  63. avatar I'mDead
    Besides, at the end they all turn into Supergrass and start riding around on 70's style chopper bikes as Patrick McGoohan beats himself off with a William Wallace statuette, shouting "The trouble with Scotland is, its full of Scots!".

    And thus endeth 'The Prisoner'