1. avatar thenovembercriminals
    was wondering if any one knew some one who i good contact to get a few gigs in belfast? i have already appllied for the front page tomorrow night, many thanks.
  2. avatar tingtatingtingtingtating
    It might be hard to get gigs if you're a white power nazi band called "The November Criminals" haha

    OJ M8 OJ - Get a myspace and contact promoters through it - then they can hear your chhooooonnzzzz and book you da fok maaannnn.....
  3. avatar thenovembercriminals
    err no, lol. the november criminals were against the nazi regime. lol, hence we called it. cheers for the help.
  4. avatar Daithi jasper
    I seem to remember getting a myspace friend request from a welsh band of the same name.
  5. avatar Kingnez
    well actually the november criminals were the ones who made germany a hotbed of nationalism
    allowing the nazis rise to power :shock:
  6. avatar spirit of division
    but that wasnt the intent.
  7. avatar tingtatingtingtingtating
    [quote:e41e976bbd="Kingnez"]well actually the november criminals were the ones who made germany a hotbed of nationalism
    allowing the nazis rise to power :shock:[/quote:e41e976bbd]

    here here :D
    I didn't get a C in GCSE History for nothun!
  8. avatar chris1984_99_99
    Its easy enough to get into Laverys Bunker or Pavilion, the guy who takes the bookings for those places is called "Gregz" on here. Ask him what slots and where they have free. You do however have to take care of everything including sound, promotion, booking bands and the equipment etc. It wont cost you money for the venue, but its up to you to run it in most respects.

    Tis worth a try if ur wanting to gig Belfast!
  9. avatar tingtatingtingtingtating
    [quote:e71a3daaad="chris1984_99_99"]Its easy enough to get into Laverys Bunker or Pavilion, the guy who takes the bookings for those places is called "Gregz" on here. Ask him what slots and where they have free. You do however have to take care of everything including sound, promotion, booking bands and the equipment etc. It wont cost you money for the venue, but its up to you to run it in most respects.

    Tis worth a try if ur wanting to gig Belfast![/quote:e71a3daaad]

    That's good advice if ever I heard it!
    You could also email The Shane - he does gigs in Katys Monday nights in the face night - www.myspace.com/inthefaceonmyspace
  10. avatar jenniemcc
    In The Face has moved to Wednesdays as far as I know

    We (BruisedFruit) runs gigs in Laverys, Auntie Annie's and Pavilion.

    Get in touch with us via our website www.bruisedfruitpromotions.com or www.myspace.com/bruisedfruitpromotions

    We're always happy to help out new bands.

    Jen
  11. avatar chris1984_99_99
    [quote:78f7f73a05="jenniemcc"] We're always happy to help out new bands.Jen[/quote:78f7f73a05]

    Ive tried contacting you several times in the past, via the address on your site, via the comment box on your site and pm'ed on here, still waiting on any response.

    Just curious to find out why there has been no reply as we are a local band with a fairly good sound who want some more exposure.

    Thanks
    Chris
    9lies
  12. avatar tingtatingtingtingtating
    [quote:51cb407f1b="jenniemcc"]In The Face has moved to Wednesdays as far as I know[/quote:51cb407f1b]

    Has it been demoted to a Wednesday or promoted to a Wednesday?
    What's the story?
  13. avatar remaderyan
    [quote:5c6d72b032="jenniemcc"]In The Face has moved to Wednesdays as far as I know

    We (BruisedFruit) runs gigs in Laverys, Auntie Annie's and Pavilion.

    Get in touch with us via our website www.bruisedfruitpromotions.com or www.myspace.com/bruisedfruitpromotions

    We're always happy to help out new bands.

    Jen[/quote:5c6d72b032]


    if your face fits... I think we tried to get bruisedfruit gigs for almost a year, always getting the 'yeah, we're busy, maybe later'...etc. I guess it must have been us/our sound/or something? I've mentioned the word 'clique' before but everyone jumps down my throat.... so i wont mention it here.
    It was easier to get a gig in the Cavern in Liverpool than a gig in Auntie Annies, something seems wrong about that to me.

    Shane's a good guy we had a great gig in KD's before christmas

    One bit of advice i'd say is, bring a BIG load of your friends, because you'll not get many people off the street. One of the best gigs we did was to book the Empire and put on a charity night, had a couple of hundred people there and it was a great nights craic.

    If you think your not going to bring many people then my advice would be not to let it get you down or put you off. It can be soul destroying playing to an empty bar.

    www.myspace.com/thebigfacethree
  14. avatar huggy baps
    [quote:3c0eacb424="tingtatingtingtingtating"][quote:3c0eacb424="jenniemcc"]In The Face has moved to Wednesdays as far as I know[/quote:3c0eacb424]

    Has it been demoted to a Wednesday or promoted to a Wednesday?
    What's the story?[/quote:3c0eacb424]

    Probably promoted i'd say! We've played two of these gigs now and enjoyed them thoroughly!
  15. avatar jenniemcc
    9lies - check your mail
    BigFaceThree - never heard of you, don't remember ever getting a mail/press pack

    For the record - new bands looking gigs - we ARE busy but very easy to get a hold of. Come introduce yourself at a gig - we run about 3 a week and are very approachable. And easy to recognise coz our photos are up on our myspace.
    We're more likely to remember a band that comes and makes an effort person to person, than after an email that says "Check out our myspace"

    Also be aware that our Auntie Annie's gigs DO get booked up very far in advance as there is such a demand for shows. If you want to hire the room our yourselves and do a show there's nothing stopping you.

    Clique? wise up. and look at the variety of bands we've worked with. we don't have that many friends.
  16. avatar feline1
    yes but anyways, if your a neo-facist band, you could try getting some support slots with The Dangerfields, as they regularly do racist salutes on stage or sthg :P
  17. avatar remaderyan
    [quote:d34e3bbaa9="jenniemcc"]9lies - check your mail
    BigFaceThree - never heard of you, don't remember ever getting a mail/press pack

    [/quote:d34e3bbaa9]


    Apologies, we were called Catch back then. You know Phil Craig, our drummer who emailed you quite a bit... maybe that rings a bell.

    I did say I was hesitant to say clique, just theres two examples on this topic of bands who I know have tried quite hard to get gigs all over, yet both seem to have got nowhere... I dont know the correct word to use to describe it but it does appear to those bands which get ignored/given the put off that for some reason they're being taken against when other bands seem to get to play several times in the same timeframe.

    I hope i'm not coming accross as bitter here, because i'm genuinely not bitter in the slightest. We've moved on, I just hope that new people are slightly more aware of other peoples experience with bfp than we were at the time.
  18. avatar rhythmdivine
    hi jennie, its phil here, we did get in contact with you, when we were called catch. nothing ever came from it, you sent us a quick reply mind. you said something about fitting us in in the future for some gigs. any hope of that yet?

    p.s. we are pretty good, i'd say better than most out there, not to blow my own trumpet or anything.

    as for that clique thing, it does look like the same bands always end up on the bill for these gigs. could be because they put in more effort though.

    www.myspace.com/thebigfacethree
  19. avatar tingtatingtingtingtating
    I'll take this opportunity to plug our Bruised Fruit gig tonight in auntie annies and also to say - that we're a new/unknown band with no friends so I'm not really sure about the clique thing!

    www.myspace.com/treeblindmice

    (New song "I cry" uploaded if ya's wannae giviz a wee listen jim)
  20. avatar jenniemcc
    i think you guys have just dis-proved your own theory.

    i do know Phil, and yet still his band have never played a BF show.

    clique? favouritism? i think not.
  21. avatar remaderyan
    I'm not exactly sure how we've disproved the theory?

    You know who he is, you know he's emailed you but still no gig, so much for helping bands.

    No-one said that because you know him that puts him in a group. I know lots of people but I wouldnt say that I liked them. for example...not many people do actually like Phil, while many know him.


    To bring this to a close, despite a lot of work on the behalf of the band we never once got a BF gig while other have had several.

    We found the responses we got to be more excuses not to have us, because maybe we didnt fit your picture for whatever reason... So the reason for the initial post was that I felt your post to be a bit misleading because BF were clearly not willing to help a band. Perhaps it should be changed to 'BF are mostly willing to help bands'?
  22. avatar tingtatingtingtingtating
    [quote:6e273b8e6f="remaderyan"]for example...not many people do actually like Phil[/quote:6e273b8e6f]
    I quite like him to be honest - very good drummer.
  23. avatar remaderyan
    I like him too. It was a hypotheical example.

    Tho somedays... he's a bit annoying... others just a tw*t :)
  24. avatar tingtatingtingtingtating
    Well hypothetical or not - you still could hurt his feelings you know.
  25. avatar jenniemcc
    BruisedFruit do the best we can with limited resources to give advice, gigs and support to as many bands as possible.

    Good luck with your career BigFaceThree.
  26. avatar tinpot anto
    Here's a set of scenarios:

    Band 1:

    Pretty sure the promoter would not have heard of them, puts together a nice promo pack with CD, pics. They have a listen, like them and book them

    Band 2:

    Have played the same number of gigs as band 1. But send an email with myspace link.

    Who would get booked first?

    Thems the craic.
  27. avatar T Entertainment
    There's no need for excuses here, surely it's every promoters' right to put on exactly who the hell they want?!
    It's not like the NHS which you automatically have an entitlement to - promoters are not providing a public service. I know it can be very frustrating to feel like you're being ignored but slagging a promoter online just isn't going to get you that gig.
  28. avatar huggy baps
    i think they should let you know why though, instead of ignoring emails and such. But its only Belfast leek, theres plenty of other places out there.
  29. avatar tinpot anto
    Then email them back and ask them?

    Something along the lines of:

    " Hi ****,

    I dropped you an email a while back about a gig at venue X. I didn't get a reply and I was just wondering if you had had a chance to have a listen to our stuff, or if maybe it was unsuitable for your night. We have some new tracks at www.myspace.com/someband and we'd love it if you can have a listen again, and see if you could fit us in for a slot somewhere.

    Thank you,

    Person."

    EDIT: Class that there is a myspace for a band called "Some Band" with stairway to heaven on the player :)

    EDIT 2: in reply to below....

    Yes just as many times as it takes to get you a gig - everytime you put up a new track, play a new bigger venue, get a decent review etc etc etc...
    Last edited on , 2 times in total.
  30. avatar huggy baps
    aye obviously leek! But you can only do that so many times i'd say
  31. avatar RAAP Management
    The most effective way of approaching this would have been to turn up at one of the promoter's gigs, smilingly introduce yerself, hand over your shiny promo pack and ask them if they'd like a pint.
    Or get them on the blower (with a little iniative you can always get a number) and be extremely nice. Charm offensive, innit. Surprising how often it works.
  32. avatar gregz
    or contact me
  33. avatar Ooopsapocalypse
    or contact me!
    I'm a sucker when it comes to free pints so bring 'em on.
    Then again I've already had them when they were Catch...
    Always welcome though.
    Ya never know,I may even refuse the pintage.
  34. avatar i_amannie_b
    Are there any bars in belfast that do acoustic gigs that aren't too fussed if you're under 18?
  35. avatar jenniemcc
    Common Grounds on Friday nights. Not a bar, mind. But good for acoustic gigs.
  36. avatar Speed Demon
    [quote:4408280a22="rhythmdivine"]as for that clique thing, it does look like the same bands always end up on the bill for these gigs.[/quote:4408280a22]There are three 'Up In The Attic' compilation CDs, with a fourth one coming soon. Twenty tracks on each, and not every band who played were able to have a track on a CD.

    So probably around 100 different bands? In something like 2 years. Work it out.
  37. avatar rhythmdivine
    [quote:b687f85a9b="Speed Demon"][quote:b687f85a9b="rhythmdivine"]as for that clique thing, it does look like the same bands always end up on the bill for these gigs.[/quote:b687f85a9b]There are three 'Up In The Attic' compilation CDs, with a fourth one coming soon. Twenty tracks on each, and not every band who played were able to have a track on a CD.

    So probably around 100 different bands? In something like 2 years. Work it out.[/quote:b687f85a9b]

    well you proved me wrong
  38. avatar ssmcmullan
    [quote:d5510905bf="T Entertainment"]There's no need for excuses here, surely it's every promoters' right to put on exactly who the hell they want?!
    It's not like the NHS which you automatically have an entitlement to - promoters are not providing a public service. I know it can be very frustrating to feel like you're being ignored but slagging a promoter online just isn't going to get you that gig.[/quote:d5510905bf]

    That's the one Chris.

    We constantly get people asking for support slots on myspace (9 alone for Napalm Death not to mention the emails, PMS etc.) I try to reply to everyone but often take a while, I get the impression that people would think we are cliquey, mainly 'cause we stick to the same general 10 or so bands for supports.

    It's very difficult to give new bands a chance, especially when I'm trying to put together a gig that will get as many people down as possible or pay a band back with a decent support 'cause they played smaller shows with 30 or so people, I'd love to take a chance with more new bands but at the end of the day if they aren't really good and can't pull a crowd we've gotta run with what we know works.

    Young bands who have impressed me:
    Man Over Bored

    That's about it.
  39. avatar Speed Demon
    [quote:d1b2e01b74="rhythmdivine"]well you proved me wrong[/quote:d1b2e01b74]It's so disappointing when someone says that.

    I'm actually a bit protective of the Bruised Fruits, because they're by far the best people I've dealt with for gigs. You know when you're expected to be there, what equipment to bring, when you're playing, contacts for the soundman and the other bands, what the deal is on money, etc.

    Some other alleged "promoters" have been completely useless.
  40. avatar RAAP Management
    The situation with supports in NI is way better than most other parts of the UK...Wonderland and the SU usually give bands a few quid and some beers / water, Hardball and the other more indie promoters generally try to pay supports.
    Elsewhere unless you're official tour support you'll often find youself in an unspoken bidding war with other local bands to get on the bill, or involved in some ludicrous 'you must sell x amount of tickets' deal.
  41. avatar ssmcmullan
    Yeah, generally Belfast has it good in the respect of bands getting treated well, if our gigs break even the local bands always get paid, sometimes way more than others, if we loose money we always try to give the supports a decent gig where they will make some moolah.
  42. avatar huggy baps
    [quote:31e8545311="ssmcmullan"]Yeah, generally Belfast has it good in the respect of bands getting treated well, if our gigs break even the local bands always get paid, sometimes way more than others, if we loose money we always try to give the supports a decent gig where they will make some moolah.[/quote:31e8545311]

    who's we? Who do ye promote for?
  43. avatar gl2200
    [quote:684b311521="huggy baps"]who's we? Who do ye promote for?[/quote:684b311521]

    He's part of the brains behind Hardball.
  44. avatar huggy baps
    ah!
  45. avatar palrub
    just like to say i was strolling through Lady Dixon one day, havin' a sneaky hand-poured and talking crap with a few mates in the early months of summer '06 when i got a phonecall from Jennie UITA asking if we (theSHOTS) were available for a videoshoot of some sort in the Waterfront or something - memory evades me, think it was that Urban Arts showcase or workshop or whatever - but point is, regardless of our unavailability, that small act of genuine sparring on of meagre local piss poor indie shoegazers (i.e. us) was devoid of any clique bias. Salutations UITA, and if you'll have us back we'd love to play again or inclusion of tracks on any upcoming UITA EPs, with added tittage in the form of a female synth player. Booyah.
    James Ray Conor Mark
  46. avatar remaderyan
    Right,

    I was dearth to use that C word and I really shouldnt have because everyone here has jumped on it like vultures.

    My point, was that we as a band having send emails, cd's, myspace, bio all the stuff people advise you to do...the only door we ever felt closed to use was BF stuff. Initially it was, get a demo so up we go to manor park... then its we're too busy, then its we havent forgotten about you.. etc etc.
    We played maybe 10 gigs in the space of two months not so long ago, lots of people at the gigs, so it wasnt as if we didnt bring much of a crowd to some of them.

    I respect the point that its a business, our oppinion was that we'd be quite good for business, bringing people who dont normally go to gigs along... when we did the gig in the empire with the Vals in Sept, i'd say 70% of those people were those who dont go to many gigs or were at their first gig. To see the lineup of our peers who regularly play places, who we've played with and considered to be not so great(having invited them to gigs we'd arranged), it felt like we'd done something wrong.

    The fact that we got a gig in the cavern in Liverpool within 2hours of sending the bloke an email and yet after trying for almost a year we couldnt get a gig in the Dublin Road leaves a bitter taste.

    I'll say it again, I was wrong to say clique, but did we have a bad smell? I've discussed it with other bands and they'd got the same impression, these were bands who havent just played one or two venues in belfast, but had gigged all over.
  47. avatar tingtatingtingtingtating
    The Cavern's no big deal - that's like sayin - I can get a burger in McDonalds quicker than my mother can make one. The Cavern will let [i:2e872d02c2]any[/i:2e872d02c2] band from over here play there - sure we're playin there and we're shit. :D But we're also playin in the Peel in London - That makes us amazing.
  48. avatar remaderyan
    Yes, I know you are :smt011 (just kidding!) But its not like I hold the place in great esteem or that anyone has to be amazing, its the fact that LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of bands play there. Its not just local bands from Liverpool but the whole of the UK and Ireland.

    ie they have time to listen to tracks or reply to emails and help bands out (if playing there is helping you)
  49. avatar tingtatingtingtingtating
    LOTS and LOTS and LOTS of people eat burgers in McDonalds too.
  50. avatar tingtatingtingtingtating
    OK my posts aren't helping - I'll leave this thread to people who can actually help! Take it easy Ryan!
  51. avatar remaderyan
    Yes, Maybe i'm getting carried away?

    Big hug anyone? :smt052
  52. avatar tingtatingtingtingtating
    [quote:3ba057f830="remaderyan"]Yes, Maybe i'm getting carried away?

    Big hug anyone? :smt052[/quote:3ba057f830]

    Oh! I didn't mean "take it easy" like that! Just meant as in.. ya know? "See ya later man" kinda thing!
  53. avatar mark lanegan
    any chance sumone cud link me to the extensive list of promoters/venues that was put up on here a while back, had a wee look through the forum for a bit there using the search function and cudnt find it. thanks
  54. avatar FiddlerOnTheRoof
    Anyone can e-mail me if they'd like a Knights of the Round Table gig, at merlin@theknightsoftheroundtable.net

    It's a gig night at the Pavilion Bar, every other Thursday; and built around the bands are performance poets, film, visual art, etc. So music is the feature, but bands nonetheless alternate with other performers. If it's not your cup of tea, don't get in contact :P And if it is, drop me a line...

    Please try and include a myspace or the like where tunes can be listened to.
    Any genuine local band who gets in touch will get a gig, 100% promised...

    ...and if anyone's been overlooked, it's probably because I've screwed up, so just get in touch again! :P The Knights gigs are really all about having a bit of fun, so drop me a line and get involved if you think it floats your boat.

    Thanks, Tom
  55. avatar RAAP Management
    "The fact that we got a gig in the cavern in Liverpool within 2hours of sending the bloke an email and yet after trying for almost a year we couldnt get a gig in the Dublin Road leaves a bitter taste."

    You should just book AAs yourself. It's somewhere between 100 and 150 quid (I think, it wildly fluctuates) but if you put in the effort and get a decent crowd in you'll make more moolah than another promoter's gig.
  56. avatar gregz
    I always reply to e.mails, plus both pavilion and laverys charge no room hire. So there's nothing stopping bands doing their own shows
  57. avatar RAAP Management
    And what Gregz is simply too modest :P to add is that the Bunker is a way superior venue which you can get for nowt, so just forget about AAs and go there or the Pavilion.
  58. avatar huggy baps
    i agree!
  59. avatar fastfude
    [quote:c63cbb438a="mark lanegan"]any chance sumone cud link me to the extensive list of promoters/venues that was put up on here a while back, had a wee look through the forum for a bit there using the search function and cudnt find it. thanks[/quote:c63cbb438a]
    You mean the list of Glasgow promoters Sansie made?

    http://www.fastfude.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9033
  60. avatar gregz
    [quote:8aa972a8bc="RAAP Management"]And what Gregz is simply too modest :P to add is that the Bunker is a way superior venue which you can get for nowt, so just forget about AAs and go there or the Pavilion.[/quote:8aa972a8bc]


    now thats a first, me modest?
  61. avatar ssmcmullan
    I really don't see how bands are having a problem getting gigs, my old band were terrible and we managed to play over 50 gigs in N Ireland.
  62. avatar thesneakybandit
    i've played quite a few gigs.
    i'm crap.
    it's clearly not that hard to get gigs if you can be bothered looking for them.
    i assume a lot of bands out there think they're that elusive next big thing and want promoters to flock to them.
    a lot of bands out there are awful and promoters are probably right to not offer them gigs.
    and anyway if a promoter doesn't want you playing one of their gigs there are always a million other promoters to approach.
  63. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    Club NI:NG, once a month at the Bunker.

    Contact us at [url]http://www.myspace.com/clubningrocks[/url]

    to be honest, there is an powerful amount of sh1te out there localy and I can't be f##ked dealing with it. At the same time, we only can put on 3 bands on a month, so we've a backlog of decent bands we want to get on our line-ups.
  64. avatar mark lanegan
    [quote:96ac10d822="fastfude"][quote:96ac10d822="mark lanegan"]any chance sumone cud link me to the extensive list of promoters/venues that was put up on here a while back, had a wee look through the forum for a bit there using the search function and cudnt find it. thanks[/quote:96ac10d822]
    You mean the list of Glasgow promoters Sansie made?

    http://www.fastfude.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9033[/quote:96ac10d822]

    yea it cudve been that one, thanks
  65. avatar campfiredisco
    just like to put in, we have no songs recorded as of yet, but bruised fruit were kind enough to put us on the bill for a pavillion gig in May!! thanks folks. plus we're from strabane, and i dont think anyone form outside of here has heard of us...yet.
  66. avatar huggy baps
    [quote:7172494a38="remaderyan"]Right,

    I was dearth to use that C word and I really shouldnt have because everyone here has jumped on it like vultures.

    My point, was that we as a band having send emails, cd's, myspace, bio all the stuff people advise you to do...the only door we ever felt closed to use was BF stuff. Initially it was, get a demo so up we go to manor park... then its we're too busy, then its we havent forgotten about you.. etc etc.
    We played maybe 10 gigs in the space of two months not so long ago, lots of people at the gigs, so it wasnt as if we didnt bring much of a crowd to some of them.

    I respect the point that its a business, our oppinion was that we'd be quite good for business, bringing people who dont normally go to gigs along... when we did the gig in the empire with the Vals in Sept, i'd say 70% of those people were those who dont go to many gigs or were at their first gig. To see the lineup of our peers who regularly play places, who we've played with and considered to be not so great(having invited them to gigs we'd arranged), it felt like we'd done something wrong.

    The fact that we got a gig in the cavern in Liverpool within 2hours of sending the bloke an email and yet after trying for almost a year we couldnt get a gig in the Dublin Road leaves a bitter taste.

    I'll say it again, I was wrong to say clique, but did we have a bad smell? I've discussed it with other bands and they'd got the same impression, these were bands who havent just played one or two venues in belfast, but had gigged all over.[/quote:7172494a38]

    Aye i know what ya mean here, its also quite funny because when you email about getting merchandise the response times are 88 mph!! but meh, i wouldnt worry a great deal leek, i mean its only auntie aunnies, as much as i love the bar, its just one of many belfast venues, and when the bunker is free to hire out then theres no real need to worry :-)