1. avatar ginpromo
    Just out of boredom and maybe someone has done this before, but here is a list of bands I remember from my youth who had their 15 minutes in Ireland but did very little elsewhere, feel free to expand this and say where they are now, I know where some are.

    1. That Petrol Emotion
    2. Light a Big Fire
    3. Ghost of an American Airman
    4. In Tua Nua
    5. Microdisney
    6. Fat Lady Sings
    7. Mama's Boys
    8. The Golden Hoarde
    9. Watercress
    10. Energy Orchard
    11. Engine Alley
    12. Whipping Boy
    13. The Stunning
    14. Something Happens
    15. An Emotional Fish
    16. My Bloody Valentine
  2. avatar The Joker
    Ive seen Pat McManus from Mama's Boys play a few times in the past year with his new band but I'm not sure what the other members are up to. Definitely still worth seeing live, unbelievable guitarist.
  3. avatar livemusicpics.com
    Whipping Boy reformed last year - mixed reactions.

    The Stunning are now The Walls (they're not very good) and still play the odd Stunning gig.

    Something Happens - Frontman Tom Dunne now a DJ on Today FM (Pet Sounds).

    An Emotional Fish - Frontman now Jerry Fish and the Mudbug Club

    My Bloody Valentine - Rumours of new album on the way i heard (am i wrong?) - also, i thought they did make a bit of a name for themselves outside ireland.
  4. avatar ginpromo
    [quote:18ee3f3b63="livemusicpics.com"]Whipping Boy reformed last year - mixed reactions.

    The Stunning are now The Walls (they're not very good) and still play the odd Stunning gig.

    Something Happens - Frontman Tom Dunne now a DJ on Today FM (Pet Sounds).

    An Emotional Fish - Frontman now Jerry Fish and the Mudbug Club

    My Bloody Valentine - Rumours of new album on the way i heard (am i wrong?) - also, i thought they did make a bit of a name for themselves outside ireland.[/quote:18ee3f3b63]

    Knew bout, Happens, Stunning, Fish, others good to hear still about
  5. avatar ShowYourBones
    [quote:f23da229ce="ginpromo"]16. My Bloody Valentine[/quote:f23da229ce]

    Yeah I heard that My Bloody Valentine are working on new material. Seems harsh to say that they had only 15 mins of fame in Ireland, they've inspired quite a few bands from Ireland, UK and beyond. Kevin Shields also collaborated with Primal Scream.
  6. avatar JTM
    I'd like to know what happened to :

    Co.dot
    Payola
    Cashier No 9


    Especially codot, I thought they were ready for the big time when I saw them at Reading, but I guess they just ran out of gas.

    And I thought everyone had heard of My Bloody Valentine.
  7. avatar Pete
    I've heard several stories about co.uk, not sure what to believe, but it was a split in the band for various reasons that stopped them from going places, not a lack of talent or support.

    Rab their drummer is now with The Deaf Club.

    Joe Brush had a pretty decent band going a year or two back, Vapour Lounge I think they were called, not sure what happened with them.
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  8. avatar thehellfireclub
    Joby from Energy Orchard runs our practice place - sound bloke. Still doing some acoustic stuff here and there
  9. avatar livemusicpics.com
    [quote:0ade67fb15="JTM"]I'd like to know what happened to :

    Co.dot
    Payola
    Cashier No 9


    Especially codot, I thought they were ready for the big time when I saw them at Reading, but I guess they just ran out of gas.

    And I thought everyone had heard of My Bloody Valentine.[/quote:0ade67fb15]

    Isn't co-dot's joe not now in su casa?
    Also, just in case you're not joking, the other two are still very much going.
  10. avatar Chi-Lite
    Payola are still going.

    It's just that no one has noticed, because they're f[b:cb02391da2][/b:cb02391da2]ucking atrocious.

    Weren't Cashier No. 9 playing in Annies just about a month or two ago?
  11. avatar The Fires of Hell
    [url=http://www.fastfude.org/2/review.php?id=656]Su Casa review[/url] from a while back there.

    Kevin Shields has done tonnes, I really wouldnt call MBV an also-ran. Especially in terms of influence.
  12. avatar ginpromo
    ok mbv excluded, it's only fun boys c'mon
  13. avatar I'mDead
    Thats kind of what I was going to say. See 'Lost in Translation' for example.

    Add these to the list:

    Power of Dreams
    Compulsion
    Blink
  14. avatar livemusicpics.com
    Compulsion - JacknifeLee (Garret Lee) had a few of his own tunes - now a grammy winner as a producer having worked on U2's atomic bomb album as well as with snow patrol and kasabian.
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  15. avatar Pete
    Garret Lee is the reason for Snow Patrol's recent popular success if you ask me, his production of Final Straw in particular is fantastic.
  16. avatar JTM
    Did not know that about Jacknife, his stuff is class, or the last stuff I heard him do was at least.

    Also I was serious about Payola, found the Felix EP in a box of old promos recently and though "Ah, another Belfast band that's probably defunct by now." Glad to be proved wrong.
  17. avatar JTM
    Another one for the list:
    Ghost of an American Airman
  18. avatar livemusicpics.com
    that was in the first list.
  19. avatar Gavin McKay Fan
    Cashier No.9, AKA the Mighty Todd, played the BBC Electric Proms last year. He also continues to play guitar with Alloy Mental and Corrigan.
  20. avatar dirty stevie smitty
    what happened to the members of rikmandu?

    no seriously.
  21. avatar Philip PAYOLA
    :lol: Currently residing in the "Where are they now" file....

    Oi JTM - check out http://www.myspace.com/payolarock - we have a brand new tune..."77 Miles"....up there, with another couple on the way in the next week. We'll have a new E.P out soon (will be gigging again from April), and we released our debut album "Try Everything Twice" at the end of '05 on UK rock label Tomcat Records.

    Funnily enough, Joe Brush's new band Su Casa supported us recently...good tunes as always.

    As for the utterly bereft man's Keith Moon somewhere above.... :lol:
  22. avatar nonlogic liam
    [quote:8f74a48b93]what happened to the members of rikmandu? [/quote:8f74a48b93]

    I think you left out two words at the start of that sentence, 'who' and 'cares'.
  23. avatar ebs93
    Silent Running?
  24. avatar ink
    ghost of an american airman... one of those guys used to live near where i used to live. not sure about the music though
  25. avatar the dirty weed
    that's f*ckin hilarious you count my bloody valentine in a bunch of irish also-rans!
  26. avatar Wd-adam
    Is it the same My Bloody Valentine I'm thinking of? The shoe-gazer band? Mentioned to me by a Scot and Danish American on seperate occasions this week at Uni?

    If so then, hardly also-rans.
  27. avatar chrisjedijane
    I find it hardly necessary to proclaim my outrage at seeing My Bloody Valentine on that list - "Loveless" only being one of the most important and influential albums of the 90's.



    and also my favourite album.
  28. avatar 3cigarettes
    What type of moron considers My Bloody Valentine an "also ran". Especially amongst Irish bands.

    In the years I've read Fastfude, that is quite possibly the single most ridiculous thing I've seen.

    Christ almighty.
  29. avatar Baelmammon
    Watercress
    Energy Orchard

    Blasts from the past altho I never liked Watercress and there smudge stick ways. Anyone remember a band used to play in penny farthings called Cheese Junkies (they were great female vocal amazing voice)?
  30. avatar Shane
    What ever happened to Snow Patrol?
  31. avatar Baelmammon
    See no-one cared about Lightface when he was Reindeer Section altho they were a hit with the indie kids while in Scotland Lightface became big, no-one forseen his crimes against music and he will be punished in the afterlife.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Reindeer_Section


    P.S only joking he's going to heaven :twisted:
  32. avatar doctor K
    I haven't heard Slowdown by Power of Dreams, probably since it was released. Does anyone have a copy?

    Am willing to swap Frank and Walters rough tapes
    or Betamax recordings of The Beat Box.
  33. avatar Warren Drugs
    I'll trade you the Golden Horde's entire back catalogue for those Beat Box tapes.
  34. avatar doctor K
    You'd better up the ante on that offer.
    Throw in Smiley Bolger's autograph on the back of a Guggi print, or I'm keeping tape nine:

    "Beat on the Street from the Eye in the Sky"

    Which as you well know, contains the final of the Beatbox Band competition, and by far the best of all the homemade grainy black and white videos shown throughout the series.
  35. avatar ginpromo
    [quote:65fcdb47f9="3cigarettes"]What type of moron considers My Bloody Valentine an "also ran". Especially amongst Irish bands.

    In the years I've read Fastfude, that is quite possibly the single most ridiculous thing I've seen.

    Christ almighty.[/quote:65fcdb47f9]
    If you read th f**king replys you see I excluded them from list so who's a moron now?
  36. avatar 3cigarettes
    You?

    Anyway, I'll not post in your thread again.
  37. avatar ginpromo
    [quote:d8e279ca71="3cigarettes"]You?

    Anyway, I'll not post in your thread again.[/quote:d8e279ca71]

    Bothered, lighten up!!
  38. avatar thecomeons_2
    no idea what's up with the rest of that petrol emotion, but the undertones have reformed haven't they?
  39. avatar ginpromo
    [quote:3ad68f71ea="thecomeons_2"]no idea what's up with the rest of that petrol emotion, but the undertones have reformed haven't they?[/quote:3ad68f71ea]
    Yeah without Sharkey, but wouldn't call them also rans
  40. avatar Chi-Lite
    For the sake of a bit of craic, what about local bands who have been going for ages, and who, for a wee while looked like they are going somewhere, but now, 3 or 4 years later, are still getting nowhere.

    You know the type, those bands who sign to an indie label, play some reasonable support gigs in London or something, and look like they're well on their way, but that was 4 years ago, and now they're still doing exactly the same thing, and playing the same sized gigs.

    And are thus "Also rans", as much as all these others.

    There's loads of bands like that from round this whack of the woods. I could name a few straight off, anybody else?
  41. avatar dodgi stereo
    If a band/artist isn't signed and hasn't made 'The Big Time' but are playing shows and doing what they do, are they 'also rans' (past) or 'currently running' (present continuous).

    I didn't actually realise that there was a race on...

    When is it too late to start?
  42. avatar Chi-Lite
    I'm not talking about bands who have been going for a few years and have been gradually building up to playing bigger and better gigs, and getting better all the time.

    I'm thinking more of those bands who started maybe 6 years ago, built themselves up and played better and better gigs, maybe got a few good support slots with top bands, but never quite made the "breakthrough", and now 4 or 5 years years later, are still playing the same kind of gigs, which, although really good gigs, are not actually getting them anywhere, and by this stage it's probably too late.

    I think the Answer for example, have a danger of this happening, although I'm sure it's not too late yet. But think of the cracker gigs and media coverage that the Answer are getting....now imagine if, say in another two years they were still playing the same very good gigs, but their album had done absolutely nothing, and they had never quite "made it".

    I would call that an also ran. Not the Answer, I'm sure they've another while yet to give it a go....but sooner or later, if you're not getting anywhere and progressing, you realise you're not going to.

    There's a few bands like that knocking about these parts.

    Also rans.
  43. avatar fastfude
    So what is the "breakthrough"? Should all bands be aiming for superstardom, where anything short of that is failure? Is there no other valid ambition or career path available as a musician? Is the purpose of a band to create music or create celebrity?
  44. avatar dodgi stereo
    The 'also-ran' tag fits if the band wants to get a major breakthrough and hasn't within a certain amount of time. Is this correct?

    Is this time limit set by the band/artist themselves, press, punters, something/one else?

    The whole idea of being an 'also-ran' presupposes that the band/artist are 'in the running' at all.

    Is a band/artist automaticly 'in the running' once a note is published online/played in public? Or is there something else that must be done to qualify as a 'runner'?
  45. avatar Chi-Lite
    Yous aren't reading my post.

    Bands don't have to look for superstardom.

    They don't have to want a "breakthrough"

    There isn't a set time limit for their "breakthrough", beginning from their first ever gig.

    I'm not sure there's a single definition for what would constitute a "breakthrough".


    I'm talking about bands who for a while there looked like they were going to go on to big things, tv appearances, platinum selling albums, sold out tours.....

    And then, 4 years later, they still haven't. They're still playing the reasonably good gigs that made us all think they were heading for the big time. But they're still playing them, and so, obviously, haven't.

    They don't have to want stardom, they don't have to be trying for it, it doesn't have to be the only reason for them to start playing music.

    Just that they almost did, but then didn't.

    Also rans. You know the type.
  46. avatar kingmob
    You're clearly busting to name some yourself.
  47. avatar Chi-Lite
    Ha, no, just thought it would be more interesting to name also rans who are our contemporaries.

    There have been a fair amount of them over the last lot of years. You know, those bands that we all thought were gonna be the next big thing to come outta here, and now we all wonder where they are.

    Until we find out about some gig they're playing and think to ourselves, "houl on, I thought they would have been headlining gigs like that themselves by now, yet they're still playing support....they've probably missed their chance now, considering we've all forgot about them"

    Know those kind of bands? Maybe people just don't want to talk about it round here.
  48. avatar fastfude
    I still don't quite get your point there Marty. So you're talking about artists that [i:e98d583d2b]you[/i:e98d583d2b] thought would achieve X Y Z and have disappointed you by only achieving X? How do you know they were aiming for what you were expecting? Seem unfair to label them as failures if they were never explicitly holding themselves to your standards.
  49. avatar Chi-Lite
    Right.

    Jesus, this is more trouble than its worth.

    Perhaps a band had no particular desire themselves to sell millions of records and play sell out tours.

    Chances are I had no particular expectations about them, being a cynical bastard.

    I'm just talking about those local bands around whom there was a bit of hype, and whom many people (local radio djs, music columnists) expected to go on to do many great things.

    But they never did.

    Lets see....Watercress would've probably been one such band back in the day. the Answer I'd say might be on the verge of it; in a years time or so I'd say they may have missed their chance (Possibly not, I'm just using it as a [i:36a99078e2]possible[/i:36a99078e2] hypothetical example)

    Not saying this is gonna happen, but imagine if, for example, oppenheimer, with all the high expectations that people have for them, were still in four years time playing medium sized support gigs in local venues.

    that's the kind of thing that I mean.

    But it doesn't really matter now.

    Jeez.

    This is just a dastardly ploy to get me to use up all my daily posts, isn't it?

    You sly dogs.
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  50. avatar fastfude
    c&p from an accidental new topic:
    [quote:27773f8e88="dodgi stereo"]I've read the posts and I think I understand what you're getting at.

    But why are you holding back from naming some examples? Are the bands in the original list ones you'd suggest or are there others?

    If the band/artist is happy with their progress (or lack of) why would anyone (except a fanatic) care otherwise?

    I think the term 'also-ran' suggests failure. I don't think all bands/artists who don't have mainstream success feel like they are missing out or failing.

    I haven't got a record deal, but I enjoy the work I do, and that's enough. I don't feel any pressure to do anything with my music other than meet my own expectations and perform the best I can when I have an opportunity to do so.

    But then again, I don't work solely in traditional rock - where the weight of rockist tradition can be all too limiting.[/quote:27773f8e88]
  51. avatar fastfude
    c&p from an accidental new topic:
    [quote:5648596ea3="Chi-Lite"]Here, I was just adding a more local contemporary twist to a thread about also rans.

    None of these things bother me. I've never done anything remotely successful in any band I've ever been in, and I've always been happy playing gigs in wee small smokey bars.

    I was just adding on to the thread about Irish bands who had maybe one hit, but never quite made it beyond that. i was wondering about those local bands that loads of us have probably played gigs with, and who looked like they were going to go on and do all those things that I've suggested, but never quite did it.

    I'm not making a value judgment or anything, just adding a wee twist to that original post. :-D

    I haven't named any names yet because yous all seem to think I'm desperate to name and shame some band. I'm not. I can think of a few bands, but I'm not thinking of any in particular.

    Alright f[b:5648596ea3][/b:5648596ea3]uck sake, leave me alone. I was just saying. :-D

    As for this thread, I don't think you can judge about whether a band is succesful or not. People have different ideas about what they would like to do.

    To be honest, success for me would be playing decent gigs in wee bars more than three times a week, and maybe getting a few quid to supplement my meagre wages. I've no particular desire to, for example, sell a million records.

    Although I would also quite like to go on Jools Holland at some point.[/quote:5648596ea3]
  52. avatar fastfude
    [quote:15e8e6b220="Chi-Lite"]Lets see....Watercress would've probably been one such band back in the day. the Answer I'd say might be on the verge of it; in a years time or so I'd say they may have missed their chance (Possibly not, I'm just using it as a [i:15e8e6b220]possible[/i:15e8e6b220] hypothetical example)

    Not saying this is gonna happen, but imagine if, for example, oppenheimer, with all the high expectations that people have for them, were still in four years time playing medium sized support gigs in local venues.[/quote:15e8e6b220]
    See, imho each of those bands has achieved a substantial amount far beyond medium sized support gigs in local venues. All 3 have played the biggest music industry events in the world (SXSW, Midem, etc), produced high-quality albums to critical acclaim, successfully toured far beyond these shores and made connections with some of music's most prolific artists and icons. They are light years away from being also-rans, Shirley?
  53. avatar Chi-Lite
    Yes, I see what you mean...

    And it is true that everybody has different aims. Some people want to sell billions of albums and become a mainstream successful band, where others just want to do their own thing and play to small audiences of afficianados.

    But....

    See all those things you mentioned above, I mean they're sort of inbetween. I think that producing high quiality albums to critical accalim, playing bib music industry events and far reaching and successful tours etc, are all steps towards mainstream success. I'd imagine, if playing a high profile music industry event, most people would hope that it would be a step towards more mainstream success.

    What I'm saying is, having done all those things, most people wouldn't want to stop there, and would hope that these lead towards playing on Jools Holland, getting into the album charts, having a mainstream label push your tunes like fuck.

    But then, if you don't, and you pretty much stop there, I think you could be called an also ran.

    If, for example, after playing some of the biggest music industry events, and receiving critical acclaim for your album, you didn't end up getting on to Jools Holland, you'd be a bit disappointed.

    Unless that was never your goal anyway, you were never particularly interested in high profile industry events, and when you were asked to play such events you only thought "MAD! sure that'll be a bit of craic, although it'll not get us anywhere and we don't want it to"

    But I don't think many people really think like that.

    Playing high profile music industry gigs is tantamount to admitting that your goal is a high profile in the music industry.

    And although playing such events, and setting off on worldwide tours, is a step to such a high profile, it isn't quite there yet. And you may never quite get there.

    Also Ran..
  54. avatar tinpot anto
    Ah jaysus marty grow a pair of balls and name the people you are talking about up front, you're turning into Smitty here... :lol:
  55. avatar Chi-Lite
    F[b:30211cd88b][/b:30211cd88b]uck sake, why does everybody assume I'm just shit stirring.

    I'm not thinking of anybody in particular, I've named a few bands that I reckon might be like that, and I could probably think of a few more.

    I'm just adding in a wee bucking twist to that one about the also rans.

    I swear to God, see when my posting limit comes up, I'm gonna knock all your ballixes in for having me waste so many.

    It was just a wee idea. there's loads of also rans and one hit wonders in the world, what about the local ones, that are contemporary to some of us oul hands?

    Doesn't matter.

    F[b:30211cd88b][/b:30211cd88b]uck sake, all jump on top of me why don't ye's

    Considering I'm the only person on this forum with the balls to say when I don't like bands, it's a bit rich coming from you Anto, with all the bum licking that you do.
    :-D

    There's plenty of bands I don't like, I'll name them all again if you want. :-D

    but that's not what I'm on about. I quite liked Watercress, and I've nothing against the Answer, and certainly nothing against Oppenheimer.
  56. avatar barrypeak
    and back to the point...
    after ghost of an american airman, dodge (the singer) formed a band called thompson featuring me, ryan and shaun (now a proper pop star). we played three gigs (one of which in cbgbs) and recorded an ep (never released) before it all ended. he lives in the same town in the north of england as the ex bass player from olympic lifts.
    dan from watercress, as i'm sure alot of you know, now lives in new york and makes a good enough living out of playing music. when he plays as a band he goes under the name sonovagun. he asked me to play guitar for them last summer at a festival in england. it was a fantastic, bizarre weekend. sonovagun have a myspace.
  57. avatar Strong Reaction
    Heat The Beans
    Blue Sunday
    Roo
    Modern Day Heroes
    Fling
    Chimera
    Confusion
    Dissent
    The Thirty Ones

    Discuss.
  58. avatar Baronation
    I prefer to discuss:

    This Kiss Kills
    Viper Viper
    Iron Curtain
    Muscle Beach
    Split Red
    Vorderman
    Los Cabros
  59. avatar I'mDead
    PeaceFrog
    A Nation of Spies
    Cecil's Flea Circus
    Baby X
    Peppermoth
    Buzzkill
    The Golden Mile
    Brinskill Bomb Beat
    Coitus
    Tart
    'Pierce' (Fetauring Ian Pierce, Ex of 'Ian')
    Joe Mullan's 'Mullan'
  60. avatar Ciaran
    Didn't one of the guys from Watercress play in Drat, are they still going?
  61. avatar I'mDead
    Didn't the now defunct local poppy-punksters 'Tunic' have an album called 'Also Ran'?
  62. avatar ginpromo
    [quote:08b788f458="fastfude"]So what is the "breakthrough"? Should all bands be aiming for superstardom, where anything short of that is failure? Is there no other valid ambition or career path available as a musician? Is the purpose of a band to create music or create celebrity?[/quote:08b788f458]

    I think when I started the thread I was saying what bands didn't achieve outside Ireland what they achieved here and as a result stalled, 4 of us are an example maybe of one of the few bands who although their success is mainly limited to Ireland they are still working and have built their career at home.
  63. avatar goatboy
    [quote:ce80a8e467="Ciaran"]Didn't one of the guys from Watercress play in Drat, are they still going?[/quote:ce80a8e467]

    Well, initially 3 and then two of Watercress. They moved to Leeds and seemed to be doing alright and then disappeared off the face of the planet within the last couple of years. I went to see them in London a couple of years ago and they were absolutely awesome. They were finishing off a new album and then I haven't heard anything about them since and their website never gets updated.
  64. avatar ginpromo
    Cry Before Dawn, remember them, had a great song called gone forever
  65. avatar exmagician
    nation of spies were in fact called nation's spies and went on to become the embers who, despite a distinct lack of application managed to play some 'industry' gigs in london and garner little bits of label interest. the band split in 2005 probably due to starting to take things a bit too seriously. so now i just do [url]http://www.myspace.com/exmagicianmusic[/url] and play in some of the aforementioned bands. and i think it's all just a matter of satisfying yourself ;-)
  66. avatar I'mDead
    Dammit, I was trying to remember the name 'The Embers' who despite your modesty had the makings of something special.

    Will check out the myspace stuff though.
  67. avatar Chi-Lite
    Didn't The Embers release "Watch Out Girl", a rare as hens teeth 45, in 1967?

    Why yes, yes they did.
  68. avatar Numbnut Sounds
    [quote:579738e313="Strong Reaction"]
    The Thirty Ones[/quote:579738e313]

    aw shucks..... :oops:

    Theres only 2 of us still creating music....me, well im in the Black Tokens

    And Steve, the ex-keyboard player is now part of Sinister Industries, just signed to Made To Play records
  69. avatar I'mDead
    Where's Conrad? In the local prison perhaps?
  70. avatar Numbnut Sounds
    that's not very nice
  71. avatar gl2200
    [quote:739e7ee533="I'm Dead"]Peppermoth [/quote:739e7ee533]

    Turned into Rodan, and then briefly Rodin, and then back to Rodan again. They still gig about once every two years.

    [quote:739e7ee533="I'mDead"]The Golden Mile[/quote:739e7ee533]

    Ex-members are currently working as a civil engineer, an owner of a furniture shop, a legal librarian, a postman and a soundman.
  72. avatar koyo666
    A civil engineer, the manager of a furniture shop, a database specialist at Angus Asset Management, a postman and a soundman, more like.
  73. avatar gl2200
    [quote:b400df9296="koyo666"]...a database specialist at Angus Asset Management...[/quote:b400df9296]

    Ah, the legal librarian malarky finished a few years back, you're right. I stand corrected.
  74. avatar fastfude
    As opposed to the murky underworld of [i:eedd647b4b]illegal[/i:eedd647b4b] librarians, warping the Dewey decimal system to their own nefarious ends?
  75. avatar Wd-adam
    [quote:c28328ac22="fastfude"]As opposed to the murky underworld of [i:c28328ac22]illegal[/i:c28328ac22] librarians, warping the Dewey decimal system to their own nefarious ends?[/quote:c28328ac22]

    :lol:

    It's a well known fact that late-fee embesslement is rife in this country's libraries.
  76. avatar I'mDead
    Hey gl200,

    It was actually 'In.Decision', not Peppermoth who became Rodan, with the enormously talented Paul Mallon, Lorraine and 'Loose' Ruari, (also of Los Cabros / HM Prison fame).
  77. avatar gl2200
    [quote:894d3d678a="I'mDead"]It was actually 'In.Decision', not Peppermoth who became Rodan...[/quote:894d3d678a]

    So who did Peppermoth turn into?
  78. avatar RAAP Management
    Michael Branagh is in Scotland based Little Doses anyway.
  79. avatar Numbnut Sounds
    [quote:dc5f893583="RAAP Management"]Michael Branagh is in Scotland based Little Doses anyway.[/quote:dc5f893583]

    which has ya man mark mcclelland (?) fom snow patrol???????????
  80. avatar goatboy
    Indeed. I really like what I've heard of Little Doses so far.

    Andrew Griswold was in Peppermoth and In.Decision too. Perhaps that's where the confusion lies?
  81. avatar I'mDead
    It all started with a band called 'Fusion' featuring:

    John Murphy (Went on to be singer/bassist in Peppermoth)
    Joe Mullan (Went on to 'Bulge' and 'Fling')
    Gerry (Dont know his surname, great sogwriter, think he might be a doctor now?)
    Michael Brannagh (Went on to 'Chi' then 'DeGrassi' with Roddy Bottum off of Idlewild, and now 'Little Doses'.

    Since 1992, I would hazard a guess that Andrew Griswold has drummed in some shape or form for various 2-bit bands, along with me and a host of other low-lifes.
    --------------------
    Slight American Accent
    Alumni Feedback
    Confusion
    Griswold
    The Bloodsucking Freaks
    In.Decision
    Chopper

    I'm glad its all paying off for him now though.
  82. avatar Strong Reaction
    The Fred West Garden Party?

    I also just saw bot a State Of Emargency and a No Hot Ashes vinyl in the city centre. 20p each.
  83. avatar ginpromo
    Did anyone mention Joyrider?
  84. avatar Shane
    [quote:e6002c02ea="ginpromo"]Did anyone mention Joyrider?[/quote:e6002c02ea]

    You've got me in the rush hour? The drummer went to my ole schule!
  85. avatar The enfant terrible
    Hey someone mentioned Compulsion, now there's a blast from the past. that album with Rape Jacket and Air Raid for the Neighbours was class.
  86. avatar fopp
    What about Co.Uk (maybe they've already been mentioned, but I'm not for trawling through all those pages)?

    Last I heard, the spikey fellow was in a band called lounge lizard (or something like that)?


    Edit. I just bothered to read the first few comments and yes, someone had already mentioned co.uk, followed by vapour lounge (not lounge lizard) and su casa.

    Also have to add my name to the list of people outraged at Bloody Valentine being described as an "also-ran".
  87. avatar flackmeister
    I will always remember the "Live at the Belfast Empire" CD sleeve, the bloke wot wrote it did a great take on all the movement with the bands involved... Such and such needs a drummer and that other band just split up...

    Dig it out if you have it, very amusing, the guy should've went on to work at the UN...

    I still mourn the loss of the Skinflints and make no secret of it, also, it might have been The Holsteins or Duffymoon on the Empire CD but the track called Mother Superior should have been number one...
  88. avatar thesneakybandit
    phil from joyrider dj's in schu most weekends and paints pictures. dan donnelly from watercress is mostly based in new york these days i think and played a few gigs in belfast last october.
  89. avatar thebatgranny
    I have an old issue of proto-AU 'DV8' from 1992 kicking around somewhere. It has brief reviews of about 30 bands including the likes of the Holstiens, Peppermoth, Alumni Feedback, Poultice and an unsigned Ash. must dig it out for yez.

    P.S Does anyone remember Big Bag of Sticks? They were a Galway band (I think) who played raggae tinged trad music and played the Front Page a load of times. Brilliant band, I still have their CD and even went to the trouble of running it through T-Racks to make it a bit clearer.
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  90. avatar tinpot anto
    Why has no-one mentioned Joyrider, or Co.uk???
  91. avatar Shane
    [quote:7b35454b43="tinpot anto"]Why has no-one mentioned Joyrider, or Co.uk???[/quote:7b35454b43]

    Or 'The Tin Pot Destroyers'? Is that what they were called? What ever in f uck happened to those boyos (and the girl)?
  92. avatar ginpromo
    Spontaneous Dog, didn't they win some TV talent show?
  93. avatar T Entertainment
    I dunno if you're making that up or not, but it's ringing a distant bell in my scone alright!

    Speaking of canine bands, whatever became of Dog Eat Fish?
    I remember when - just after they got the much coveted Fugazi support slot in the Art College - a bold boy* phoned them claiming to be 'Mike Chalice from Chrysalis Records' and set up a meeting in the Europa. Which the bold boy knew they tried to attend as he was watching from across Great Victoria Street at the appointed time, hosing himself. :D








    * Amazingly NOT Goatboy, who was 5 at the time.
  94. avatar ginpromo
    Not making it up T, I remember their name because my brother was playing piano on same competition, circa 1992 if I remember, Spontaneous Dog were kinda like Marrillion/Genesis early stuff as I recall.
  95. avatar T Entertainment
    Aw man, that is killing me now! It's a very distant memory of [i:b7687c9419]something[/i:b7687c9419]...
    I will have to get onto Griswold.


    To below: Gawd, I remember the Bedhangers. From Ballymena. Always 'on the verge of being signed'. Played the Errigle a lot.
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  96. avatar thesneakybandit
    i have an old video of "beyond the line" with mike edgar somewhere from about 1995 or 1996. joyrider are on it playing "all gone away" and there's a live performance from another band called the bedhangers. it always stuck in my head as an awful and yet memorable name.
  97. avatar The enfant terrible
    What about Consume? Ballymena's answer to Downset.
  98. avatar Chi-Lite
    I have the same video, with the joe Bedhangers on it. Pictures, I think one of the tunes was called, and i quite liked it. good singer.
  99. avatar The enfant terrible
    Yeah that song pictures is great, I saw them about 10 years ago at the da club in dublin, great live act the bedhangers.
  100. avatar Captain Kennedy
    One (maybe two) of Joyrider now play in Trucker Diablo. They played the Ceili House, Lurgan a couple of weeks back and were awesome. Front-man is Tom Harte from Tilted.
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  101. avatar Dirty Stevie Grizz
    What about Gimik?
  102. avatar Andrew
    I'm not trawling back through seven pages, but does anyone remember Peace Frog? God, I hated those twats. The lead singer was a Jim Morrison/Marc Bolan clone and they thought they were the big men because they had supported David Bowie in the King's Hall. Singer-boy took a flyer off me for some godawful Alumni Feedback/Confusion gig, after I'd watched his band play to 30 bolloxed students one afternoon in Jordanstown Uni. He read the flyer, smirked a knowing smirk, as if to say, "Dear boy, do not trouble me with your trifles", crumpled it up, threw it to the ground and walked off.

    Another 'big men in big boots' incident occurred at the Mandela Hall, when the old drummer from Joyrider - the fat, hairy one - took a flyer off me, looked me up and down, shook his head, ripped it up and walked off roaring with laughter.

    I also remember the hilarious time Ash ("No world beater but roll on the next one" - Johnny Hero, 1992) supported Blink in the Limelight (yes, the same Dublin Blink who forced Blink 182 to add the '182'). Their lead singer finished their set by throwing his plectrum into the crowd, which landed with a miserable, soul-crushing ping on the dancefloor, and was soon trampled into the dirt by various dickheads dancing to Pop Will Eat Itself.

    Then there was the Nirvana gig in the King's Hall, after which the floor was carpeted with 5,000 flyers for the next Alumni Feedback Penny Farthing dribble-fest. T Ents and I spent a drunken hour and a half stumbling up and down the Lisburn Road searching for the aftershow party, before retiring to our respective parents' houses.

    [size=24:9da5c9ba26]GREAT DAYS.[/size:9da5c9ba26]
  103. avatar tinpot anto
    [quote:d04565fc27]Another 'big men in big boots' incident occurred at the Mandela Hall, when the old drummer from Joyrider - the fat, hairy one - took a flyer off me, looked me up and down, shook his head, ripped it up and walked off roaring with laughter.[/quote:d04565fc27]

    be Honest now, how you ever not met with this response?
  104. avatar whosbainejakey
    [quote:0f94dd1223]Another 'big men in big boots' incident occurred at the Mandela Hall, when the old drummer from Joyrider - the fat, hairy one - took a flyer off me, looked me up and down, shook his head, ripped it up and walked off roaring with laughter. [/quote:0f94dd1223]

    Buc Hamill?
  105. avatar ebs93
    [quote:2a059593ab="flackmeister"]I will always remember the "Live at the Belfast Empire" CD sleeve, the bloke wot wrote it did a great take on all the movement with the bands involved... Such and such needs a drummer and that other band just split up...

    Dig it out if you have it, very amusing, the guy should've went on to work at the UN...

    I still mourn the loss of the Skinflints and make no secret of it, also, it might have been The Holsteins or Duffymoon on the Empire CD but the track called Mother Superior should have been number one...[/quote:2a059593ab]

    Aye that was the legendary Colin Harper - Bert Jansch biographer and official Pentangle antagonist.

    It was Duffymoon who did Mother Superior and yes it should have been number one.....I wrote it and played guitar on it ;-) Happy days..........

    I think T Ents described us as the worst local band he'd ever seen.
  106. avatar whosbainejakey
    I liked the one you had that sounded exactly like Nirvana's About a Girl.
  107. avatar T Entertainment
    "I think T Ents described us as the worst local band he'd ever seen."

    Err, don't think I did! :)
    I've seen far, far worse!


    "when the old drummer from Joyrider - the fat, hairy one - took a flyer off me, looked me up and down, shook his head, ripped it up and walked off roaring with laughter."

    You mean the one they threw out en route to a deal?
    :D
  108. avatar thesneakybandit
    buck hammill, if i remember correctly.

    EDIT: never mind, someone already said that!
  109. avatar whosbainejakey
    [quote:3623e20bad]You mean the one they threw out en route to a deal?
    grin[/quote:3623e20bad]

    I remember hearing a sad tale about the day Buc had to return the new drumkit the band had just bought with record company money. Something along the lines of their manager banging on his front door demanding the new drumsticks back as well?

    Bet he didn't feel so big at that moment! :oops:
  110. avatar T Entertainment
    To be fair, I remember Buck as being a decent oul spud.
    He was always very generous with his pipe-containing-only-the-finest-legal-tabaccos when AF played with Joyrider, which was a lot.
    He clearly just correctly spotted Griswold as a b*stard and acted accordingly.

    Peace Frog were a LUDICROUS band. Please, please, please could someone put 'She Got The Love' from the M8 tape online somehow?
  111. avatar voiceofthepeople
    Currently available in Oxfam books round off Bridge St - 12" vinyl by Energy Orchard (x2 I think)... and a CD single by .co.uk.
  112. avatar goatboy
    I quite liked co.uk.
  113. avatar The enfant terrible
    [quote:636e2036b3="voiceofthepeople"]Currently available in Oxfam books round off Bridge St - 12" vinyl by Energy Orchard (x2 I think)... and a CD single by .co.uk.[/quote:636e2036b3]

    I remember running into Tam Toad up Sentry Hill back in Ballymena circa 97 and him teling me that he really liked Energy Orchard. Ah the memories.
  114. avatar micnorwood
    Peace Frog have a site on myspace www.myspace.com/piecefrog.

    She got the love may appear shortly!!!
  115. avatar Ben Bulbous
    [quote:b79f1ba65b="The enfant terrible"]What about Consume? Ballymena's answer to Downset.[/quote:b79f1ba65b]
    Good question. First "proper" gig I had was supporting them when I was 15. Paul Clegg was a hell of a frontman that night. Last I heard they had some big deal in LA but that was about 12 years ago. Don't know how true that is.
    As for Watercress, Dan is now Sonovagun, based in NY as far as I know. Played Glasto for the last 2 years and doing alright for himself:
    http://www.myspace.com/sonovagun
    And playing in Lavery's next week.
  116. avatar himynameissween
    i dont really want to go back through 8 pages either, but as far as i have heard watercress split years ago. which sucks as i got into them about a year or so after the split (or so my friends tell me)

    whatever happened to torino? from my vague memory i think i liked them....
  117. avatar Shane
    From what I remember, U2 were doin quite well.
    Their hard brash pseudo-punk statement on the album 'Boy' woulda made yi think that Ireland were gonna give birth to another 'Tin Lizzy', but they just kinda fizzled out after that awkward second album.
    Shame really - Paul 'Bono Vox' Hewson always struck me as our answer to TV's 'Sting', only more dwarfy.
    Perhaps if the band'd been more deliberate in walking their musical path, and concentrated on producing music which would appeal to the popular masses, they would be fucking millionaires by now!
    Same goes for Snow Patrol - saw them in the Mandela years ago, and thought, fuckin hell if they make the right moves, they'll have a bright future to enjoy.

    Only if either of those bands ever did do well, they'd just be slated and panned stupid on sites like this I suppose. Probably just as well they were just runners-up in the big Irish Rock Race - I mean, they didn't get the life they dreamed of, but at least they kept their cred with all us criticals!
  118. avatar himynameissween
    [quote:325ac115bd="Shane"]U2...Snow Patrol[/quote:325ac115bd]

    who?
  119. avatar Shane
    [quote:80d7a733b0="himynameissween"][quote:80d7a733b0="Shane"]U2...Snow Patrol[/quote:80d7a733b0]

    who?[/quote:80d7a733b0]

    Exactly. These good bands need local support and encouragement, otherwise their members may end up in hateful deadend jobs like a lot of us crazy dreamers.
  120. avatar flmcasey
    Here, can any of you guys remember this celtic-soul guy? Van Morrison or something? Seemed pretty decent like.
  121. avatar Shane
    [quote:889e3c081f="flmcasey"]Here, can any of you guys remember this celtic-soul guy? Van Morrison or something? Seemed pretty decent like.[/quote:889e3c081f]

    The man was a fuckin bluffer. My granda could do better than him, and he's been DEAD for 43 years.